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1d4chan>Zimriel: Undo revision 808051 by 86.14.238.11 (talk)

2022-01-29T21:42:13Z

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	*'''The League of Minotaurs''' (due to edit[[fail]], listed as "Southern Hosk") is a Byzantine-themed empire wherein might makes right, albeit with some rules to the game because civilisation needs those. The cow men had conquered a refugee successor-state of likewise-classical Aurim so, the culture shift wasn't that great. Disputes and even criminal-law, at last resort, get settled in the arena. Usually the minotaurs win of course, but the judges can impose handicaps on either side depending on how bad was the crime or the injustice. This jurisprudence works just enough to keep the majority human population from rising up. This is the most-supported region in the later literature which we'll get to.		*'''The League of Minotaurs''' (due to edit[[fail]], listed as "Southern Hosk") is a Byzantine-themed empire wherein might makes right, albeit with some rules to the game because civilisation needs those. The cow men had conquered a refugee successor-state of likewise-classical Aurim so, the culture shift wasn't that great. Disputes and even criminal-law, at last resort, get settled in the arena. Usually the minotaurs win of course, but the judges can impose handicaps on either side depending on how bad was the crime or the injustice. This jurisprudence works just enough to keep the majority human population from rising up. This is the most-supported region in the later literature which we'll get to.
	*'''Armach''' The Elves of Krynn actually started out in Taladas, as you can tell from the natives' extreme diversity and, in many instances, primitivity. At Armach, some of the Ansalonians came ''back'' to territories which, as the saying goes, were in the meantime Occupied. These elves insist on a core Armach-nesti as they head up a loose confederation of humans, [[kender]], and centaurs. If you're not an elf and you cross into the 'nesti, you get executed. Some exceptions apply since the locals already figured out that trick of "catapulting your enemies into elf territory" and the elves already figured out that they weren't going to serve the humans as their assassins.		*'''Armach''' is Elf Israel. The Elves of Krynn actually started out in Taladas, as you can tell from the natives' extreme diversity and, in many instances, primitivity. At Armach, some of the Ansalonians came ''back'' to territories which, as the saying goes, were in the meantime Occupied. These elves insist on a core Armach-nesti as they head up a loose confederation of humans, [[kender]], and centaurs. If you're not an elf and you cross into the 'nesti, you get executed. Some exceptions apply since the locals already figured out that trick of "catapulting your enemies into elf territory" and the elves already figured out that they weren't going to serve the humans as their assassins.
	*'''Thenol''' is the human empire. Yay! ...Except that the emperor is a figurehead and the real power is a bishop, of Hiddukel no less. Yeah the humans get screwed royally in this continent. Some baronies here resist the episcopacy so, there's that.		*'''Thenol''' is the human empire. Yay! ...Except that the emperor is a figurehead and the real power is a bishop, of Hiddukel no less. Yeah the humans get screwed royally in this continent. Some baronies here resist the episcopacy so, there's that.
	*'''Blackwater Glade''' is gumbo land, a swamp of more human and elf tribals. And of degenerate [[illithid]]s. Also [[bakali]]. It blends in with the '''Fisheries and Neron''' along the south coast.		*'''Blackwater Glade''' is gumbo land, a swamp of more human and elf tribals. And of degenerate [[illithid]]s. Also [[bakali]]. It blends in with the '''Fisheries and Neron''' along the south coast.

86.14.238.11: /* The South */

2022-01-29T18:00:58Z

The South

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	*'''The League of Minotaurs''' (due to edit[[fail]], listed as "Southern Hosk") is a Byzantine-themed empire wherein might makes right, albeit with some rules to the game because civilisation needs those. The cow men had conquered a refugee successor-state of likewise-classical Aurim so, the culture shift wasn't that great. Disputes and even criminal-law, at last resort, get settled in the arena. Usually the minotaurs win of course, but the judges can impose handicaps on either side depending on how bad was the crime or the injustice. This jurisprudence works just enough to keep the majority human population from rising up. This is the most-supported region in the later literature which we'll get to.		*'''The League of Minotaurs''' (due to edit[[fail]], listed as "Southern Hosk") is a Byzantine-themed empire wherein might makes right, albeit with some rules to the game because civilisation needs those. The cow men had conquered a refugee successor-state of likewise-classical Aurim so, the culture shift wasn't that great. Disputes and even criminal-law, at last resort, get settled in the arena. Usually the minotaurs win of course, but the judges can impose handicaps on either side depending on how bad was the crime or the injustice. This jurisprudence works just enough to keep the majority human population from rising up. This is the most-supported region in the later literature which we'll get to.
	*'''Armach''' ~~is Elf Israel.~~ The Elves of Krynn actually started out in Taladas, as you can tell from the natives' extreme diversity and, in many instances, primitivity. At Armach, some of the Ansalonians came ''back'' to territories which, as the saying goes, were in the meantime Occupied. These elves insist on a core Armach-nesti as they head up a loose confederation of humans, [[kender]], and centaurs. If you're not an elf and you cross into the 'nesti, you get executed. Some exceptions apply since the locals already figured out that trick of "catapulting your enemies into elf territory" and the elves already figured out that they weren't going to serve the humans as their assassins.		*'''Armach''' The Elves of Krynn actually started out in Taladas, as you can tell from the natives' extreme diversity and, in many instances, primitivity. At Armach, some of the Ansalonians came ''back'' to territories which, as the saying goes, were in the meantime Occupied. These elves insist on a core Armach-nesti as they head up a loose confederation of humans, [[kender]], and centaurs. If you're not an elf and you cross into the 'nesti, you get executed. Some exceptions apply since the locals already figured out that trick of "catapulting your enemies into elf territory" and the elves already figured out that they weren't going to serve the humans as their assassins.
	*'''Thenol''' is the human empire. Yay! ...Except that the emperor is a figurehead and the real power is a bishop, of Hiddukel no less. Yeah the humans get screwed royally in this continent. Some baronies here resist the episcopacy so, there's that.		*'''Thenol''' is the human empire. Yay! ...Except that the emperor is a figurehead and the real power is a bishop, of Hiddukel no less. Yeah the humans get screwed royally in this continent. Some baronies here resist the episcopacy so, there's that.
	*'''Blackwater Glade''' is gumbo land, a swamp of more human and elf tribals. And of degenerate [[illithid]]s. Also [[bakali]]. It blends in with the '''Fisheries and Neron''' along the south coast.		*'''Blackwater Glade''' is gumbo land, a swamp of more human and elf tribals. And of degenerate [[illithid]]s. Also [[bakali]]. It blends in with the '''Fisheries and Neron''' along the south coast.

1d4chan>Zimriel: /* Aurim */

2021-11-14T23:32:23Z

Aurim

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	===Aurim===		===Aurim===
	This is inconsistently described as a nascent civilisation and as The Glory That Was Rome. We're told in an insert that their kings took the title "Hlafdae", a singular. Very possible that many "Aurim ruins" weren't really Aurim's, especially further from the Hitehkel. Also possible that latest Aurim was (at least) tributary to the Priest King of Istar before the Day Of The Rock.		This is inconsistently described as a nascent civilisation and as The Glory That Was Rome. We're told in an insert that their kings took the title "Hlafdae". That's a singular; it's an expy of [[China\|皇帝]]. Very possible that many "Aurim ruins" weren't really Aurim's, especially further from the Hitehkel. Also possible that latest Aurim was (at least) tributary to the Priest King of Istar before the Day Of The Rock.

	As to what's left in the homeland: that's a wasteland east of the lava sea. It's got more hobgoblins; also, [[draconian]]s. Because nobody important was using the real-estate post-Cataclysm, [[Takhisis]] did a lot of her experiments here, of which the traag got loose. Enough traag banded together and figured out how to reproduce (stealing dragon-eggs, we must assume) that they've made a go of it.		As to what's left in the homeland: that's a wasteland east of the lava sea. It's got more hobgoblins; also, [[draconian]]s. Because nobody important was using the real-estate post-Cataclysm, [[Takhisis]] did a lot of her experiments here, of which the traag got loose. Enough traag banded together and figured out how to reproduce (stealing dragon-eggs, we must assume) that they've made a go of it.

1d4chan>Zimriel: /* The World! (well, island) */

2021-09-10T04:41:30Z

The World! (well, island)

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	==The World! (well, island)==		==The World! (well, island)==
	Taladas as published is an island continent if even that. Total land area is comparable to the West Australia state, about a million square miles. A DM can expand the northwest or (better) the Steamwall to stretch it all out, but it's still probably not going to be Australia-tier. But we're used to that from Ansalon and, nowadays, [[Critical Role]]'s Tal'dorei.		Taladas as published is an island continent if even that. Total land area is comparable to the West Australia state, about a million square miles. A DM can expand the northwest or (better) the Steamwall to stretch it all out, but it's still probably not going to be Australia-tier. But we're used to that from Ansalon and, nowadays, [[Critical Role]]'s [[Exandria\|Tal'dorei]].

	[[File:Taladas map.jpg\|thumb\|right\|350px\|Krynn's suppurating red starfish.]]		[[File:Taladas map.jpg\|thumb\|right\|350px\|Krynn's suppurating red starfish.]]

1d4chan>Zimriel: /* Time of the Dragon */

2021-08-20T17:25:29Z

Time of the Dragon

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	==''Time of the Dragon''==		==''Time of the Dragon''==
	As intimated above, the editing here stinks; ~~especially for~~ the Steamwall region, with whole cities (Brilmantar) and races (hurdu) mentioned ''en-passant'' without further explanation where we want it. Much like [[Scarred Lands]] now we think on't. Aurim wasn't explained well either, before it fell, but this at least is defensible on the Give The DM Some Leeway principle.		As intimated above, the editing here stinks; starting with the title, which has the sheer balls to feature dragons on a continent all whose dragons are in hiding and whose protagonists all ignore them.

			The Steamwall region is a notable mess, with whole cities (Brilmantar) and races (hurdu) mentioned ''en-passant'' without further explanation where we want it. Much like [[Scarred Lands]] now we think on't. Aurim wasn't explained well either, before it fell, but this at least is defensible on the Give The DM Some Leeway principle.

	What we do get in the boxed set is The Guide Book and The Rule Book, paralleling the Gazetteer and the Glossography of [[Greyhawk]]: one for the lore, the other for the AD&D rules. And page after cardboard page of NPCs and dungeons, like the tomb of one of the more pharaonic Hlafdae-s.		What we do get in the boxed set is The Guide Book and The Rule Book, paralleling the Gazetteer and the Glossography of [[Greyhawk]]: one for the lore, the other for the AD&D rules. And page after cardboard page of NPCs and dungeons, like the tomb of one of the more pharaonic Hlafdae-s.

1d4chan>Zimriel: /* Why Is Taladas Even A Thing? */

2021-08-15T20:56:50Z

Why Is Taladas Even A Thing?

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	Money.		Money.

	Well, that; and [[Tracy Hickman]]'s Ansalon was always a ''sub''-continent, an extrusion from the south-polar continent. If Krynn is to be Earth-sized, there should be more landmass over the ocean. (We did get ''Otherlands'' but that's mostly polynesia.) Zeb here explains a continent that, somehow, can be Dragonlancey without detracting from the main epic. And, [[Desert Nomad series\|since he's Zeb]], he cuts corners - which won't get edited, because [[Lorraine Williams\|nu-TSR doesn't care]] as long as product gets shipped.		Well, that; and [[Tracy Hickman]]'s Ansalon was always a ''sub''-continent, an extrusion from the south-polar continent. If Krynn is to be Earth-sized, there should be more landmass over the ocean. (We did get ''Otherlands'' but that's mostly polynesia.) Zeb here explains a continent that, somehow, can be Dragonlancey without detracting from the main epic. And, [[Desert Nomad series\|since he's Zeb]], he [[Oriental_Adventures\|cuts corners]] - which won't get edited, because [[Lorraine Williams\|nu-TSR doesn't care]] as long as product gets shipped.

	==The World! (well, island)==		==The World! (well, island)==

1d4chan>Zimriel: /* The World! (well, island) */

2021-08-14T22:26:53Z

The World! (well, island)

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	==The World! (well, island)==		==The World! (well, island)==
	~~[[File:Taladas map.jpg\|thumb\|right\|350px\|Krynn's suppurating red starfish.]]~~
	Taladas as published is an island continent if even that. Total land area is comparable to the West Australia state, about a million square miles. A DM can expand the northwest or (better) the Steamwall to stretch it all out, but it's still probably not going to be Australia-tier. But we're used to that from Ansalon and, nowadays, [[Critical Role]]'s Tal'dorei.		Taladas as published is an island continent if even that. Total land area is comparable to the West Australia state, about a million square miles. A DM can expand the northwest or (better) the Steamwall to stretch it all out, but it's still probably not going to be Australia-tier. But we're used to that from Ansalon and, nowadays, [[Critical Role]]'s Tal'dorei.

			[[File:Taladas map.jpg\|thumb\|right\|350px\|Krynn's suppurating red starfish.]]
	Taladas' deal is that the same Cataclysm which fucked Ansalon down south totally ''ass[[rape]]d'' this continent up north. A super-Chicxulub dredged a molten ''mare'' into the exact middle of it - where the civilisation was. Since then the evil god [[Hiddukel]] has kept this basalt a-simmering through ''[[gate]]''s to the Plane Of Fire.		Taladas' deal is that the same Cataclysm which fucked Ansalon down south totally ''ass[[rape]]d'' this continent up north. A super-Chicxulub dredged a molten ''mare'' into the exact middle of it - where the civilisation was. Since then the evil god [[Hiddukel]] has kept this basalt a-simmering through ''[[gate]]''s to the Plane Of Fire.

1d4chan>Zimriel: /* The World! (well, island) */

2021-08-14T22:25:56Z

The World! (well, island)

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	==The World! (well, island)==		==The World! (well, island)==
	[[File:Taladas map.jpg\|thumb\|right\|350px\|~~The lands of Taladas~~.]]		[[File:Taladas map.jpg\|thumb\|right\|350px\|Krynn's suppurating red starfish.]]
	Taladas as published is an island continent if even that. Total land area is comparable to the West Australia state, about a million square miles. A DM can expand the northwest or (better) the Steamwall to stretch it all out, but it's still probably not going to be Australia-tier. But we're used to that from Ansalon and, nowadays, [[Critical Role]]'s Tal'dorei.		Taladas as published is an island continent if even that. Total land area is comparable to the West Australia state, about a million square miles. A DM can expand the northwest or (better) the Steamwall to stretch it all out, but it's still probably not going to be Australia-tier. But we're used to that from Ansalon and, nowadays, [[Critical Role]]'s Tal'dorei.