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	Thay was first fleshed out in detail with the [[Advanced Dungeons & Dragons]] 1st edition [[splatbook]] "Dreams of the Red Wizards".		Thay was first fleshed out in detail with the [[Advanced Dungeons & Dragons]] 1st edition [[splatbook]] "Dreams of the Red Wizards".

	In [[Dungeons & Dragons 3rd Edition]], it was one of the nations covered in the splatbook "Unapproachable East".		In [[Dungeons & Dragons 3rd Edition]], it was one of the nations covered in the splatbook "[[Unapproachable East]]".

	==Gallery==		==Gallery==

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	==History==		==History==
	Because [[Imaskar]] were atheistic arcane magic ~~suprmisit~~, it no surprise that [[Unther]] and [[Mulhorand]] would put arcane wizards under the thumb of the clergy.		Because [[Imaskar]] were atheistic arcane magic supremacists, it is no surprise that [[Unther]] and [[Mulhorand]] would put arcane wizards under the thumb of the clergy.

	Some may say it was for magical expression, but obviously it always [[wizard]]s grasping for power, Thayd tried to lead a scesstion movent, with him being executed but posthumously put the movement in a good spot, forgetting to turn a portal off, a [[Gruumsh]] [[WAAAGH]] swept through the old empires like [[Gorbad Ironclaw]] with the addition of mass deicide. obviously the empires from then one were just shadows of themselves, setting the groundwork for the Red Wizards of Thay 2000 years later to succeed and found thier own magocricy on top of the Thaymount plateau, releasing the [[demon lord]] [[Eltab]] sealed underneath to wreck the Mulhorandi army. For his efforts in the war, [[Eltab]] was sealed back up and named the River Eltar and the capital Eltabbar after him for his contributions.		Some may say it was for magical expression, but obviously it always [[wizard]]s grasping for power, Thayd tried to lead a scesstion movent, with him being executed but posthumously put the movement in a good spot, forgetting to turn a portal off, a [[Gruumsh]] [[WAAAGH]] swept through the old empires like [[Gorbad Ironclaw]] with the addition of mass deicide. obviously the empires from then one were just shadows of themselves, setting the groundwork for the Red Wizards of Thay 2000 years later to succeed and found thier own magocricy on top of the Thaymount plateau, releasing the [[demon lord]] [[Eltab]] sealed underneath to wreck the Mulhorandi army. For his efforts in the war, [[Eltab]] was sealed back up and named the River Eltar and the capital Eltabbar after him for his contributions.

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	Some may say it was for magical expression, but obviously it always [[wizard]]s grasping for power, Thayd tried to lead a scesstion movent, with him being executed but posthumously put the movement in a good spot, forgetting to turn a portal off, a [[Gruumsh]] [[WAAAGH]] swept through the old empires like [[Gorbad Ironclaw]] with the addition of mass deicide. obviously the empires from then one were just shadows of themselves, setting the groundwork for the Red Wizards of Thay 2000 years later to succeed and found thier own magocricy on top of the Thaymount plateau, releasing the [[demon lord]] [[Eltab]] sealed underneath to wreck the Mulhorandi army. For his efforts in the war, [[Eltab]] was sealed back up and named the River Eltar and the capital Eltabbar after him for his contributions.		Some may say it was for magical expression, but obviously it always [[wizard]]s grasping for power, Thayd tried to lead a scesstion movent, with him being executed but posthumously put the movement in a good spot, forgetting to turn a portal off, a [[Gruumsh]] [[WAAAGH]] swept through the old empires like [[Gorbad Ironclaw]] with the addition of mass deicide. obviously the empires from then one were just shadows of themselves, setting the groundwork for the Red Wizards of Thay 2000 years later to succeed and found thier own magocricy on top of the Thaymount plateau, releasing the [[demon lord]] [[Eltab]] sealed underneath to wreck the Mulhorandi army. For his efforts in the war, [[Eltab]] was sealed back up and named the River Eltar and the capital Eltabbar after him for his contributions.

	After that, it was		After that, it was just scheme-after-overt-military-actions, as evils do best, and try to take over the world, one expansionist inch by puppet leader at a time.

	==Publication History==		==Publication History==

1d4chan>Stephenlucas600: History

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	Thay is one of the few kingdoms that openly incorporates all "humanoids" into its culture, making it a place where [[orc]]s, [[hobgoblin]]s and [[gnoll]]s, amongst other, live in relative peace with humans, albeit at the cost of still being inferior to the ruling elite, who are all [[wizard]]s and thus treat everyone beneath them equally badly. Gnolls in particular tend to be integrated into the city watch, since their powerful sense of smell and natural tracking skills make them very good at finding criminals of all stripes.		Thay is one of the few kingdoms that openly incorporates all "humanoids" into its culture, making it a place where [[orc]]s, [[hobgoblin]]s and [[gnoll]]s, amongst other, live in relative peace with humans, albeit at the cost of still being inferior to the ruling elite, who are all [[wizard]]s and thus treat everyone beneath them equally badly. Gnolls in particular tend to be integrated into the city watch, since their powerful sense of smell and natural tracking skills make them very good at finding criminals of all stripes.

	One of the traditional key's to Thayan might, and something that makes them more interesting than generic evil empires like the Kingdom of [[Iuz]] on [[Greyhawk]], is that they are clever enough to seek power through subtle means; Thay has trading routes that extend over the world, and their merchants use the magical items generated by their wizardly overlords as currency to buy their way into lands that actively hate them, using this to finance an attempt to subvert nations from within. Another thing Thay has going for it is that it actually has some of the most efficient farming on Toril, and not just because of slave labor, being the only ones with large scale plantations instead of just a bunch of disorganized family farms. This renders it a food exporter that many “good” countries would starve without (something that’s never actually addressed post-Spellplague).		One of the traditional key's to Thayan might, and something that makes them more interesting than generic evil empires like the Kingdom of [[Iuz]] on [[Greyhawk]], is that they are clever enough to seek power through subtle means; Thay has trading routes that extend over the world, and their merchants use the magical items generated by their wizardly overlords as currency to buy their way into lands that actively hate them, using this to finance an attempt to subvert nations from within. Another thing Thay has going for it is that it actually has some of the most efficient farming on Toril, and not just because of slave labor, being the only ones with large-scale plantations instead of just a bunch of disorganized family farms. This renders it a food exporter that many “good” countries would starve without (something that’s never actually addressed post-Spellplague).

	After the [[Spellplague]], Thay went pretty much to hell. The Zulkir of [[necromancer\|Necromancy]], one of the eight wizard-kings who lead the Red Wizards, Szass Tam, transformed himself into a super-powerful [[lich]] and promptly went crazy, drinking deep of the stereotypical "necromancy is the best" and "the dead are more useful than the living" koolaides. He seized control over Thay and instituted a necrocracy. Many other Thayans have either fled or chose not to return after conquering other lands abroad and then learning Szass had taken control. These "exile" Thayans want Szass destroyed so they can end his necrocracy. Szass tried to achieve godhood, but the ritual was thwarted by a desperate alliance of his enemies; he ~~needs~~ to conquer new, unspoiled territory before he ~~can~~ try it again.		After the [[Spellplague]], Thay went pretty much to hell. The Zulkir of [[necromancer\|Necromancy]], one of the eight wizard-kings who lead the Red Wizards, Szass Tam, having secretly transformed himself into a super-powerful [[lich]] and shadow ruler for hundreds of years, promptly went crazy, dropping the act, drinking deep of the stereotypical "necromancy is the best" and "the dead are more useful than the living" koolaides. He seized overt control over Thay and instituted a necrocracy. Many other Thayans have either fled or chose not to return after conquering other lands abroad and then learning Szass had taken control. These "exile" Thayans want Szass destroyed so they can end his necrocracy. Szass tried to achieve godhood, but the ritual was thwarted by a desperate alliance of his enemies; he needed to conquer new, unspoiled territory before he could try it again.

	Szass Tam still rules Thay after [[The Sundering]], though he's started accepting non-undead to the higher ranks, albeit only within Szass' personal servants, but this is only because he started fighting the [[Demon Prince]] [[Eltab]].		Szass Tam still rules Thay after [[The Sundering]], though he's started accepting non-undead to the higher ranks, albeit only within Szass' personal servants, but this is only because he started fighting the [[Demon Prince]] [[Eltab]].

			==History==
			Because [[Imaskar]] were atheistic arcane magic suprmisit, it no surprise that [[Unther]] and [[Mulhorand]] would put arcane wizards under the thumb of the clergy.

			Some may say it was for magical expression, but obviously it always [[wizard]]s grasping for power, Thayd tried to lead a scesstion movent, with him being executed but posthumously put the movement in a good spot, forgetting to turn a portal off, a [[Gruumsh]] [[WAAAGH]] swept through the old empires like [[Gorbad Ironclaw]] with the addition of mass deicide. obviously the empires from then one were just shadows of themselves, setting the groundwork for the Red Wizards of Thay 2000 years later to succeed and found thier own magocricy on top of the Thaymount plateau, releasing the [[demon lord]] [[Eltab]] sealed underneath to wreck the Mulhorandi army. For his efforts in the war, [[Eltab]] was sealed back up and named the River Eltar and the capital Eltabbar after him for his contributions.

			After that, it was

	==Publication History==		==Publication History==

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	In [[Dungeons & Dragons 3rd Edition]], it was one of the nations covered in the splatbook "Unapproachable East".		In [[Dungeons & Dragons 3rd Edition]], it was one of the nations covered in the splatbook "Unapproachable East".

	<gallery>		==Gallery==
			<center><gallery>
	File:Thay map.jpg\|Map of the nation		File:Thay map.jpg\|Map of the nation
	File:Symbol of the Red Wizards.jpg\|Symbol of the Red Wizards		File:Symbol of the Red Wizards.jpg\|Symbol of the Red Wizards
	</gallery>		</gallery></center>

	[[Category:Dungeons & Dragons]]		[[Category:Dungeons & Dragons]]
	[[Category:Forgotten Realms]]		[[Category:Forgotten Realms]]

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	'''~~THE GRAND DAD EMPIRE~~''' ~~ARE~~ a ~~prolific VINESAUCE-centric MEME group based~~ in ~~BEDROCK CITY~~. ~~Their largest periods~~ of ~~activity seemed~~ to ~~be around~~ the ~~time SILVAGUNNER was terminated~~, ~~when they were hosting several unofficial VINESAUCE gaming events (which they assure you repeatedly are~~ ''~~not~~'' ~~official Tournaments and are in no way affiliated with JOEL)~~.		{{dnd-stub}}
			'''Thay''' is a country in the [[Forgotten Realms]] of [[Dungeons & Dragons]] that has a long and storied history, having been the subject of multiple sourcebooks since the setting's appearance. One of the more overtly [[Sword & Sorcery]]-inspired regions, Thay is a generically "oriental" country that lies to the east of the Sword Coast region where the bulk of the Realms' lore is focused, ruled by a [[magocracy]] and full of byzantine plots that ultimately extend to seeking world domination. The region is one of the most long-lived "evil empires" of the setting, under the power of its mage rulers, known as the Red Wizards of Thay. It is visited in ''[[Neverwinter Nights]] 2: Mask of the Betrayer''.

	~~They operated out~~ of the ~~SilvaGunner YouTube channel until~~ it ~~was terminated~~ in ~~2014~~, ~~after which they appear~~ to ~~have transitioned briefly~~ to ~~GiivaSunner in September~~ of ~~2016 before returning to SilvaGunner in June~~ of ~~2018~~.		Thay is one of the few kingdoms that openly incorporates all "humanoids" into its culture, making it a place where [[orc]]s, [[hobgoblin]]s and [[gnoll]]s, amongst other, live in relative peace with humans, albeit at the cost of still being inferior to the ruling elite, who are all [[wizard]]s and thus treat everyone beneath them equally badly. Gnolls in particular tend to be integrated into the city watch, since their powerful sense of smell and natural tracking skills make them very good at finding criminals of all stripes.

	~~== CHANNELS ==~~		One of the traditional key's to Thayan might, and something that makes them more interesting than generic evil empires like the Kingdom of [[Iuz]] on [[Greyhawk]], is that they are clever enough to seek power through subtle means; Thay has trading routes that extend over the world, and their merchants use the magical items generated by their wizardly overlords as currency to buy their way into lands that actively hate them, using this to finance an attempt to subvert nations from within. Another thing Thay has going for it is that it actually has some of the most efficient farming on Toril, and not just because of slave labor, being the only ones with large scale plantations instead of just a bunch of disorganized family farms. This renders it a food exporter that many “good” countries would starve without (something that’s never actually addressed post-Spellplague).
	~~The original forums appeared~~ to ~~function as four services: preparation~~ and ~~communication in service~~ of ~~coming events~~, ~~discussion about new HIGH-QUALITY RIPS~~, ~~MEME showcase~~, and ~~general VINESAUCE or unrelated discussion~~.

	~~{{awesome}}== EVENTS ==~~		After the [[Spellplague]], Thay went pretty much to hell. The Zulkir of [[necromancer\|Necromancy]], one of the eight wizard-kings who lead the Red Wizards, Szass Tam, transformed himself into a super-powerful [[lich]] and promptly went crazy, drinking deep of the stereotypical "necromancy is the best" and "the dead are more useful than the living" koolaides. He seized control over Thay and instituted a necrocracy. Many other Thayans have either fled or chose not to return after conquering other lands abroad and then learning Szass had taken control. These "exile" Thayans want Szass destroyed so they can end his necrocracy. Szass tried to achieve godhood, but the ritual was thwarted by a desperate alliance of his enemies; he needs to conquer new, unspoiled territory before he can try it again.
	The ~~VINESAUCE MEME events that The GRAND DAD EMPIRE held were known for being diverse~~ and ~~involved~~, ~~due in large part~~ to ~~their incredibly strong YTP scene~~. These ~~events would involve VINESAUCE-branded fan-made HIGH-QUALITY RIPS for SONGS that wouldn't exist for nearly~~ a ~~decade, and some that still don't! They also hosted some~~ of ~~the first KING FOR ANOTHER DAY tournaments~~, ~~with fan HIGH-QUALITY RIPS~~.

	~~In later years~~, ~~an event known as GRAND FEST was hosting PREMIERES for GRAND DAD Fantasy~~, ~~KING FOR ANOTHER DAY~~, ~~GRANDmachine, HE THICC 69, and MEME Wars, as of 2019~~.		Szass Tam still rules Thay after [[The Sundering]], though he's started accepting non-undead to the higher ranks, albeit only within Szass' personal servants, but this is only because he started fighting the [[Demon Prince]] [[Eltab]].

	== ~~HIGH-QUALITY RIPS and MEMES~~ ==		==Publication History==
	~~Some HIGH-QUALITY RIPS appear to have seen releases or updates~~ in ~~5th and 6th~~ edition~~. Note that The GRAND DAD EMPIRE seem to have been most active between 2012 and 2019~~.		Thay was first fleshed out in detail with the [[Advanced Dungeons & Dragons]] 1st edition [[splatbook]] "Dreams of the Red Wizards".

	* GRAND DAD 2: SPASTIC BOOGALOO		In [[Dungeons & Dragons 3rd Edition]], it was one of the nations covered in the splatbook "Unapproachable East".
	* GRAND DAD 3: THE GAUNTLET OF ASS (FEATURING SMOL NOZOMI, ~~TITO DICKMAN, SPONGE, HE THICC, and SANS UNDERTALE)~~
	* GRAND DAD 4: GRAND DAD IS GOD
	* GRAND DAD 5: DEATH TO 1D4CHAN

	~~GRAND DAD IS LOVE~~		<gallery>
	~~GRAND DAD IS LIFE~~		File:Thay map.jpg\|Map of the nation
	~~GRAND DAD WILL CONQUER THIS WIKI~~		File:Symbol of the Red Wizards.jpg\|Symbol of the Red Wizards
	~~FOR MEMES~~		</gallery>
	~~FOR VINESAUCE~~
	~~AND FOR~~		[[Category:Dungeons & Dragons]]
	~~SILVAGUNNER~~		[[Category:Forgotten Realms]]
	[[Category: ~~Meme]][[Category: GRAND DAD]][[Category: GRAND DAD Fantasy~~]][[Category: ~~Awesome~~]]

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	~~{{dnd-stub}}~~		'''THE GRAND DAD EMPIRE''' ARE a prolific VINESAUCE-centric MEME group based in BEDROCK CITY. Their largest periods of activity seemed to be around the time SILVAGUNNER was terminated, when they were hosting several unofficial VINESAUCE gaming events (which they assure you repeatedly are ''not'' official Tournaments and are in no way affiliated with JOEL).
	'''~~Thay~~''' is a ~~country~~ in ~~the [[Forgotten Realms]] of [[Dungeons & Dragons]] that has a long and storied history, having been the subject of multiple sourcebooks since the setting's appearance~~. ~~One~~ of ~~the more overtly [[Sword & Sorcery]]-inspired regions, Thay is a generically "oriental" country that lies~~ to the ~~east of the Sword Coast region where the bulk of the Realms' lore is focused~~, ruled by a [[magocracy]] and full of byzantine plots that ultimately extend to seeking world domination. The region is one of the most long-lived "evil empires" of the setting, under the power of its mage rulers, known as the Red Wizards of Thay. It is visited in ''~~[[Neverwinter Nights]] 2: Mask of the Betrayer~~''.

	~~Thay is one~~ of the ~~few kingdoms that openly incorporates all "humanoids" into its culture, making~~ it ~~a place where [[orc]]s~~, ~~[[hobgoblin]]s and [[gnoll]]s, amongst other, live~~ in ~~relative peace with humans, albeit at the cost~~ of ~~still being inferior~~ to ~~the ruling elite, who are all [[wizard]]s and thus treat everyone beneath them equally badly. Gnolls~~ in ~~particular tend to be integrated into the city watch, since their powerful sense of smell and natural tracking skills make them very good at finding criminals~~ of ~~all stripes~~.		They operated out of the SilvaGunner YouTube channel until it was terminated in 2014, after which they appear to have transitioned briefly to GiivaSunner in September of 2016 before returning to SilvaGunner in June of 2018.

	~~One of the traditional key's~~ to ~~Thayan might,~~ and ~~something that makes them more interesting than generic evil empires like the Kingdom~~ of ~~[[Iuz]] on [[Greyhawk]]~~, ~~is that they are clever enough to seek power through subtle means; Thay has trading routes that extend over the world~~, and their merchants use the magical items generated by their wizardly overlords as currency to buy their way into lands that actively hate them, using this to finance an attempt to subvert nations from within. Another thing Thay has going for it is that it actually has some of the most efficient farming on Toril, and not just because of slave labor, being the only ones with large scale plantations instead of just a bunch of disorganized family farms. This renders it a food exporter that many “good” countries would starve without (something that’s never actually addressed post-Spellplague).		== CHANNELS ==
			The original forums appeared to function as four services: preparation and communication in service of coming events, discussion about new HIGH-QUALITY RIPS, MEME showcase, and general VINESAUCE or unrelated discussion.

	~~After the [[Spellplague]]~~, ~~Thay went pretty much~~ to ~~hell~~. ~~The Zulkir of [[necromancer\|Necromancy]], one of the eight wizard~~-~~kings who lead the Red Wizards~~, ~~Szass Tam, transformed himself into a super-powerful [[lich]]~~ and ~~promptly went crazy, drinking deep~~ of the stereotypical "necromancy is the best" and "the dead are more useful than the living" koolaides. He seized control over Thay and instituted a necrocracy. Many other Thayans have either fled or chose not to return after conquering other lands abroad and then learning Szass had taken control. These "exile" Thayans want Szass destroyed so they can end his necrocracy. Szass tried to achieve godhood, ~~but the ritual was thwarted by a desperate alliance of his enemies; he needs to conquer new, unspoiled territory before he can try it again~~.		{{awesome}}== EVENTS ==
			The VINESAUCE MEME events that The GRAND DAD EMPIRE held were known for being diverse and involved, due in large part to their incredibly strong YTP scene. These events would involve VINESAUCE-branded fan-made HIGH-QUALITY RIPS for SONGS that wouldn't exist for nearly a decade, and some that still don't! They also hosted some of the first KING FOR ANOTHER DAY tournaments, with fan HIGH-QUALITY RIPS.

	~~Szass Tam still rules Thay after [[The Sundering]]~~, ~~though he's started accepting non-undead to the higher ranks~~, ~~albeit only within Szass' personal servants~~, ~~but this is only because he started fighting the [[Demon Prince]] [[Eltab]]~~.		In later years, an event known as GRAND FEST was hosting PREMIERES for GRAND DAD Fantasy, KING FOR ANOTHER DAY, GRANDmachine, HE THICC 69, and MEME Wars, as of 2019.

	==~~Publication History~~==		== HIGH-QUALITY RIPS and MEMES ==
	~~Thay was first fleshed out~~ in ~~detail with the [[Advanced Dungeons & Dragons]] 1st~~ edition ~~[[splatbook]] "Dreams of the Red Wizards"~~.		Some HIGH-QUALITY RIPS appear to have seen releases or updates in 5th and 6th edition. Note that The GRAND DAD EMPIRE seem to have been most active between 2012 and 2019.

	~~In [[Dungeons & Dragons 3rd Edition]]~~, ~~it was one of the nations covered in the splatbook "Unapproachable East".~~		* GRAND DAD 2: SPASTIC BOOGALOO
			* GRAND DAD 3: THE GAUNTLET OF ASS (FEATURING SMOL NOZOMI, TITO DICKMAN, SPONGE, HE THICC, and SANS UNDERTALE)
			* GRAND DAD 4: GRAND DAD IS GOD
			* GRAND DAD 5: DEATH TO 1D4CHAN

	~~<gallery>~~		GRAND DAD IS LOVE
	~~File:Thay map.jpg\|Map of the nation~~		GRAND DAD IS LIFE
	~~File:Symbol of the Red Wizards.jpg\|Symbol of the Red Wizards~~		GRAND DAD WILL CONQUER THIS WIKI
	~~</gallery>~~		FOR MEMES
			FOR VINESAUCE
	[[Category:~~Dungeons & Dragons~~]]		AND FOR
	[[Category:~~Forgotten Realms~~]]		SILVAGUNNER
			[[Category: Meme]][[Category: GRAND DAD]][[Category: GRAND DAD Fantasy]][[Category: Awesome]]

1d4chan>Agiletek at 05:44, 7 July 2020

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	Thay is one of the few kingdoms that openly incorporates all "humanoids" into its culture, making it a place where [[orc]]s, [[hobgoblin]]s and [[gnoll]]s, amongst other, live in relative peace with humans, albeit at the cost of still being inferior to the ruling elite, who are all [[wizard]]s and thus treat everyone beneath them equally badly. Gnolls in particular tend to be integrated into the city watch, since their powerful sense of smell and natural tracking skills make them very good at finding criminals of all stripes.		Thay is one of the few kingdoms that openly incorporates all "humanoids" into its culture, making it a place where [[orc]]s, [[hobgoblin]]s and [[gnoll]]s, amongst other, live in relative peace with humans, albeit at the cost of still being inferior to the ruling elite, who are all [[wizard]]s and thus treat everyone beneath them equally badly. Gnolls in particular tend to be integrated into the city watch, since their powerful sense of smell and natural tracking skills make them very good at finding criminals of all stripes.

	One of the traditional key's to Thayan might, and something that makes them more interesting than generic evil empires like the Kingdom of [[Iuz]] on [[Greyhawk]], is that they are clever enough to seek power through subtle means; Thay has trading routes that extend over the world, and their merchants use the magical items generated by their wizardly overlords as currency to buy their way into lands that actively hate them, using this to finance an attempt to subvert nations from within.		One of the traditional key's to Thayan might, and something that makes them more interesting than generic evil empires like the Kingdom of [[Iuz]] on [[Greyhawk]], is that they are clever enough to seek power through subtle means; Thay has trading routes that extend over the world, and their merchants use the magical items generated by their wizardly overlords as currency to buy their way into lands that actively hate them, using this to finance an attempt to subvert nations from within. Another thing Thay has going for it is that it actually has some of the most efficient farming on Toril, and not just because of slave labor, being the only ones with large scale plantations instead of just a bunch of disorganized family farms. This renders it a food exporter that many “good” countries would starve without (something that’s never actually addressed post-Spellplague).

	After the [[Spellplague]], Thay went pretty much to hell. The Zulkir of [[necromancer\|Necromancy]], one of the eight wizard-kings who lead the Red Wizards, Szass Tam, transformed himself into a super-powerful [[lich]] and promptly went crazy, drinking deep of the stereotypical "necromancy is the best" and "the dead are more useful than the living" koolaides. He seized control over Thay and instituted a necrocracy. Many other Thayans have either fled or chose not to return after conquering other lands abroad and then learning Szass had taken control. These "exile" Thayans want Szass destroyed so they can end his necrocracy. Szass tried to achieve godhood, but the ritual was thwarted by a desperate alliance of his enemies; he needs to conquer new, unspoiled territory before he can try it again.		After the [[Spellplague]], Thay went pretty much to hell. The Zulkir of [[necromancer\|Necromancy]], one of the eight wizard-kings who lead the Red Wizards, Szass Tam, transformed himself into a super-powerful [[lich]] and promptly went crazy, drinking deep of the stereotypical "necromancy is the best" and "the dead are more useful than the living" koolaides. He seized control over Thay and instituted a necrocracy. Many other Thayans have either fled or chose not to return after conquering other lands abroad and then learning Szass had taken control. These "exile" Thayans want Szass destroyed so they can end his necrocracy. Szass tried to achieve godhood, but the ritual was thwarted by a desperate alliance of his enemies; he needs to conquer new, unspoiled territory before he can try it again.