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	'''Skewerer:''' 90pts. A pretty cheap bolt thrower. Str 6 and AP 10 makes this a great deterrent for any monsters in the area, but watch out for aim 4+		'''Skewerer:''' 90pts. A pretty cheap bolt thrower. Str 6 and AP 10 makes this a great deterrent for any monsters in the area, but watch out for aim 4+

	'''Greenhide Catapults:''' Includes both of your catapult style weapons. They both have the option to take an orc overseer, the machine loses insignificant but gains more discipline and can reroll on the misfire table.		'''Greenhide Catapults:''' Includes both of your catapult-style weapons. They both have the option to take an orc overseer, the machine loses insignificant but gains more discipline and can reroll on the misfire table.
	*'''Splatterer:''' (~~165pts~~) A good catapult. Very strong and multiple wounds make this a threat to near anything on the table.		*'''Splatterer:''' (140pts) A good catapult. Very strong and multiple wounds make this a threat to near anything on the table.
	*'''Git Launcher:''' (195pts) Slightly weaker than the splatterer (only 5) but with the same AP and partial hits don't reduce the number of hits or the str/AP. A very consistent catapult but won't be able to burn through big units, use it to slam on smaller elite units or snipe characters.		*'''Git Launcher:''' (195pts) Slightly weaker than the splatterer (only 5) but with the same AP and partial hits don't reduce the number of hits or the str/AP. A very consistent catapult but won't be able to burn through big units, use it to slam on smaller elite units or snipe characters.

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	*'''Feral Orc:''' is more fighty with +2 attack from charge + taking Pared weapons. The extra attacks on feral will make use of their battle focus.		*'''Feral Orc:''' is more fighty with +2 attack from charge + taking Pared weapons. The extra attacks on feral will make use of their battle focus.

	'''Goblins:''' 115pts for 20 + ~~6ppm~~. The 3 flavors of goblin are pretty different so we'll cover each individually~~. Base 115 for 20 + 6ppm~~.		'''Goblins:''' 115pts for 20 + 5ppm. The 3 flavors of goblin are pretty different so we'll cover each individually.
	*'''Common Goblins:''' If you want a brick this is the one. They get light armor and can get 5+ with parry in From their bow that comes with a free shield. Funnily enough, these are your spammiest archers, 5.75 points per base model + 6 for additional models all with bows that hit on 4+. They can take up to 3 shady gits, which are there to try to kill characters. They can be scary but tend to not do much, but that's not that bad considering they are only 15 points each.		*'''Common Goblins:''' If you want a brick this is the one. They get light armor and can get 5+ with parry in From their bow that comes with a free shield. Funnily enough, these are your spammiest archers, 5.75 points per base model + 5 for additional models all with bows that hit on 4+. They can take up to 3 shady gits, which are there to try to kill characters. They can be scary but tend to not do much, but that's not that bad considering they are only 15 points each.
	*'''Cave Goblins:''' -1 discipline and +1 agility on the other goblins, which means they'll strike at the same initiative as humans, instead of after, woohoo. These guys have the best options and can be the scariest thing on the table. They have Nets, which means they can effectively tarpit enemies that would otherwise mow through them, and they get Mad Gits which are a nasty surprise to anyone who thinks they can break this brick on the charge.		*'''Cave Goblins:''' -1 discipline and +1 agility on the other goblins, which means they'll strike at the same initiative as humans, instead of after, woohoo. These guys have the best options and can be the scariest thing on the table. They have Nets, which means they can effectively tarpit enemies that would otherwise mow through them, and they get Mad Gits which are a nasty surprise to anyone who thinks they can break this brick on the charge.
	*'''Forest Goblins:''' They gain poisoned attacks in melee (no poison bow spam). Throwing weapons are cheesy but can be buffed to dumb levels if you're close enough to actually use them. Use spears & shields to maximize their poison attacks.		*'''Forest Goblins:''' They gain poisoned attacks in melee (no poison bow spam). Throwing weapons are cheesy but can be buffed to dumb levels if you're close enough to actually use them. Use spears & shields to maximize their poison attacks.

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	'''Gargantula:''' 510pts. Big spider monster full of poisoned attacks. Take one in the character's section, but if you want 2 you can take a second one here. Always get the Web Launcher, it makes your low agility orcs and goblins strike first and can really fuck a chariot list or ogre khans army.		'''Gargantula:''' 510pts. Big spider monster full of poisoned attacks. Take one in the character's section, but if you want 2 you can take a second one here. Always get the Web Launcher, it makes your low agility orcs and goblins strike first and can really fuck a chariot list or ogre khans army.

	'''Great Green Idol:''' ~~365pts~~. One of the tankiest models in the game. 6 hp, 4+ armor, and a res value of 8. In addition to being a brick he allows nearby units to re-roll 1 to-hit in melee and minimize break tests. He can also be your BSB which is a pretty good option.		'''Great Green Idol:''' 370pts. One of the tankiest models in the game. 6 hp, 4+ armor, and a res value of 8. In addition to being a brick he allows nearby units to re-roll 1 to-hit in melee and minimize break tests. He can also be your BSB which is a pretty good option.

	'''Giant:''' 280pts. It's a giant, does giant things. He has Born to Fight, which boils down to a +1 str/ap when he charges. He can take a wrecking ball, making him a large mad git. Hilarious, probably not worth the points.		'''Giant:''' 280pts. It's a giant, does giant things. He has Born to Fight, which boils down to a +1 str/ap when he charges. He can take a wrecking ball, making him a large mad git. Hilarious, probably not worth the points.

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	===Special===		===Special===
	'''Iron Orcs:''' 305pts for 15 + ~~25ppm~~. Your old reliable, guess what flavor of orcs these are. They have bodyguards, but only for Iron warlords/chiefs. If one of those is your general or bsb this is a great place to put them. With their stats and the tools at their disposal, they will hold their ground and do whatever role you need them to do.		'''Iron Orcs:''' 305pts for 15 + 24ppm. Your old reliable, guess what flavor of orcs these are. They have bodyguards, but only for Iron warlords/chiefs. If one of those is your general or bsb this is a great place to put them. With their stats and the tools at their disposal, they will hold their ground and do whatever role you need them to do.

	'''Orc Boar Chariot:''' 145pts. Look at your Orc Boar Riders, now take two of them and add impact hits. This chariot hits like a truck and is dirt cheap to throw onto the table. Take one or two to clog charge lanes and threaten flanks.		'''Orc Boar Chariot:''' 145pts. Look at your Orc Boar Riders, now take two of them and add impact hits. This chariot hits like a truck and is dirt cheap to throw onto the table. Take one or two to clog charge lanes and threaten flanks.
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	*'''Forest Goblins:''' ride the spiders which are slower but are Striders and can spam poisoned attacks. this let them excel at flankers, able to charge through mountains.		*'''Forest Goblins:''' ride the spiders which are slower but are Striders and can spam poisoned attacks. this let them excel at flankers, able to charge through mountains.

	'''Goblin Wolf Chariot:''' ~~125pts~~ for 1 + ~~95ppm~~. Not as nimble as the common goblin wolf riders, but is slightly tankier and hurts more on the charge. Not as aggressive as the orc boar chariot but tends to get into weirder places.		'''Goblin Wolf Chariot:''' 130pts for 1 + 100ppm. Not as nimble as the common goblin wolf riders, but is slightly tankier and hurts more on the charge. Not as aggressive as the orc boar chariot but tends to get into weirder places.

	'''Gnasher Dashers:''' ~~150pts~~ for 5 + ~~21ppm~~. The Cave Goblin "Flying cavalry". The goblin on top is just along for the ride, the gnasher is the one that does all the killing. Always hop up to 10 models for better fighting and don't forget about the fly, they can charge over units or over the terrain.		'''Gnasher Dashers:''' 145pts for 5 + 20ppm. The Cave Goblin "Flying cavalry". The goblin on top is just along for the ride, the gnasher is the one that does all the killing. Always hop up to 10 models for better fighting and don't forget about the fly, they can charge over units or over the terrain.

	'''Gnasher Herd:''' ~~130pts~~ for 10 + 13ppm. Just the gnashers above but with no direction. Take a brick of these to cover your flanks, they are insignificant and when they break from combat and just explode dealing damage to everything nearby.		'''Gnasher Herd:''' 140pts for 10 + 13ppm. Just the gnashers above but with no direction. Take a brick of these to cover your flanks, they are insignificant, and when they break from combat and just explode dealing damage to everything nearby.

	'''Gnasher Wrecking Team:''' 135pts. A single gnasher that grew big and means. They Ricochet like a souped-up Mad Git, gaining Shambolic after their first collision. Cheap for the potential damage they can inflict, they are best used as an area denial tool versus monsters and heavy units, though watch out for Poison or auto hitting weapons.		'''Gnasher Wrecking Team:''' 135pts. A single gnasher that grew big and means. They Ricochet like a souped-up Mad Git, gaining Shambolic after their first collision. Cheap for the potential damage they can inflict, they are best used as an area denial tool versus monsters and heavy units, though watch out for Poison or auto hitting weapons.

	'''Trolls:''' 165pts for 5+ ~~65ppm~~. Have 3 flavors of their own, but all three have a few things in common: they all share stupidity, Fortitude, and vomit. Keep a babysitter nearby, being stupid is what holds this unit back and they won't be doing anything on their discipline 4. Vomit trades their 3 decent attacks for a single attack with AP 10, use it to troll elites.		'''Trolls:''' 165pts for 5+ 60ppm. Have 3 flavors of their own, but all three have a few things in common: they all share stupidity, Fortitude, and vomit. Keep a babysitter nearby, being stupid is what holds this unit back and they won't be doing anything on their discipline 4. Vomit trades their 3 decent attacks for a single attack with AP 10, use it to troll elites.
	*'''Common Troll:''' no changes from above.		*'''Common Troll:''' no changes from above.
	*'''Cave Troll:''' Gains Magic Resistance (3) and 3 armor, makes your troll 4+/4++ and resistant to spells. Makes your trolls hard to budge.		*'''Cave Troll:''' Gains Magic Resistance (3) and 3 armor, makes your troll 4+/4++ and resistant to spells. Makes your trolls hard to budge.

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	*'''Feral Orc:''' being a 3 ppm more but that aegis save will do things against dwarfs whereas light armor will not.		*'''Feral Orc:''' being a 3 ppm more but that aegis save will do things against dwarfs whereas light armor will not.

	'''Orc 'Eadbashers:''' 210pts for 15 + ~~17ppm~~. You can only have one of these units in your army. They have better stats than Orcs but they lack some of the equipment options. Make a solid bodyguard for a shaman or general, but can be safely passed in most armies.		'''Orc 'Eadbashers:''' 210pts for 15 + 16ppm. You can only have one of these units in your army. They have better stats than Orcs but they lack some of the equipment options. Make a solid bodyguard for a shaman or general, but can be safely passed in most armies.

	'''Orc Boar Riders:''' 140pts for 5 + 18ppm. Fighty + more Fighty + Speed. Orc mounted War Boar getting Str5 Ap2 on a charge. Come in common or feral flavors again.		'''Orc Boar Riders:''' 140pts for 5 + 18ppm. Fighty + more Fighty + Speed. Orc mounted War Boar getting Str5 Ap2 on a charge. Come in common or feral flavors again.

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	'''Omen of the Apocalypse:''' 125pts. hand weapon only. Before you attack, roll 1d3, add that to the number of attacks, str, and AP this round of combat. A nice little buff, not worth the points. Just take a great weapon.		'''Omen of the Apocalypse:''' 125pts. hand weapon only. Before you attack, roll 1d3, add that to the number of attacks, str, and AP this round of combat. A nice little buff, not worth the points. Just take a great weapon.

	'''Maza's Zappin:''' ~~55pts~~. Bow enchantment, it gains Aim (2+), shots 3, str/ap as user. On the right character it can be buffed to insane levels (orc warlord with this, str 5 ap 2 bow shots). Take it, it's so worth it.		'''Maza's Zappin:''' 50pts. Bow enchantment, it gains Aim (2+), shots 3, str/ap as user. On the right character it can be buffed to insane levels (orc warlord with this, str 5 ap 2 bow shots). Take it, it's so worth it.

	'''Shady Shanking:''' 50pts. Gain lightning reflexes, lethal strike, and rerolls failed to-wound rolls in duels. A good assassin weapon for a duel monster.		'''Shady Shanking:''' 50pts. Gain lightning reflexes, lethal strike, and rerolls failed to-wound rolls in duels. A good assassin weapon for a duel monster.

1d4chan>Stephenlucas600 at 13:34, 8 September 2020

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	===Core===		===Core===
	'''Orcs:''' 160pts for 20 + 10ppm. ~~You're~~ bread and butter and you will have a few blocks of these unless you're going full goblins. They are hilariously cheap for what they bring to the table so go ahead and bring a few 50 model units. Spear + shield is a pretty good choice, allowing your deep bricks to strike 3 ranks to the front. As archers, they can survive arrows better than Goblins.		'''Orcs:''' 160pts for 20 + 10ppm. Your bread and butter and you will have a few blocks of these unless you're going full goblins. They are hilariously cheap for what they bring to the table so go ahead and bring a few 50 model units. Spear + shield is a pretty good choice, allowing your deep bricks to strike 3 ranks to the front. As archers, they can survive arrows better than Goblins.
	*'''Common Orc:''' Vanilla orcs with Light armour and with shields they make fine bricks. Have the option to take heavy armor and crossbows, which makes Orcs + Goblins one of the best armies for a gunline just for how many of these chumps you can have. This does not prevent them from taking shields, so you can have res 4 4+ save crossbow orcs that hit on 4+ for 7 more points a model.		*'''Common Orc:''' Vanilla orcs with Light armour and with shields they make fine bricks. Have the option to take heavy armor and crossbows, which makes Orcs + Goblins one of the best armies for a gunline just for how many of these chumps you can have. This does not prevent them from taking shields, so you can have res 4 4+ save crossbow orcs that hit on 4+ for 7 more points a model.
	*'''Feral Orc:''' being a 3 ppm more but that aegis save will do things against dwarfs whereas light armor will not.		*'''Feral Orc:''' being a 3 ppm more but that aegis save will do things against dwarfs whereas light armor will not.

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	==Tactics==		==Tactics==
	The tactics are current as of second edition		The tactics are current as of second edition.

	===Greenhide Races===		===Greenhide Races===
	Your Orcs and Goblins are split into several minor races within themselves~~, you~~ often choose which race an individual unit is, most frequently with characters and core. These minor races can have different stats, abilities, and equipment. no restriction on what unit a character can join from the same species.		Your Orcs and Goblins are split into several minor races within themselves. You often choose which race an individual unit is, most frequently with characters and core. These minor races can have different stats, abilities, and equipment. no restriction on what unit a character can join from the same species.
	*'''Common Orc:''' Vanilla orc, tends to wear heavy armor and be your best choice for ranged options.		*'''Common Orc:''' Vanilla orc, tends to wear heavy armor and be your best choice for ranged options.
	*'''Iron Orc:''' Elite Orcs. Come with plate armor standard and are fearless. They have weapon master, the unit comes with a good selection but the character will need to buy any options.		*'''Iron Orc:''' Elite Orcs. Come with plate armor standard and are fearless. They have weapon master, the unit comes with a good selection, but the character will need to buy any options.
	*'''Feral Orc:''' Party Orcs. Armor is for pussies anyway. trade point of Def to be Naked with Battle focus, Frenzy, and Aegis 6+ (5+ on characters).		*'''Feral Orc:''' Party Orcs. Armor is for pussies anyway. trade point of Def to be Naked with Battle focus, Frenzy, and Aegis 6+ (5+ on characters).

	*'''Common Goblin:''' Insignificant. No fun rules for your vanilla goblins only Common sense to wear Light Armour. Can mount upon wolves and chariot.		*'''Common Goblin:''' Insignificant. No fun rules for your vanilla goblins, only Common sense to wear Light Armour. Can mount upon wolves and chariot.
	*'''Cave Goblin:''' Insignificant. similar to Common but with pointy hats, Special upgrades and can ride Squigly beasts.		*'''Cave Goblin:''' Insignificant. similar to Common but with pointy hats, Special upgrades, and can ride Squigly beasts.
	*'''Forest Goblin:''' Insignificant, Forest strider, most get poison on their melee weapons, and can ride spiders.		*'''Forest Goblin:''' Insignificant, Forest strider, most get poison on their melee weapons, and can ride spiders.

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	'''Oi it bites!:''' Squigs can only be joined by other Squigs.		'''Oi it bites!:''' Squigs can only be joined by other Squigs.

	'''Nets:''' Enemy units in contact with friendly units with this rule get combat penalties. Roll a d6 at the start of each combat phase, on 2+ the enemy suffers -1 to str/AP. On a 1 the unit with nets ~~nets~~ itself. A unit can only be netted once in a phase (so no reducing enemies to 0 str, at least not with nets alone). This upgrade is great, the downside rarely happens and the goblins that take this rarely suffer from the -1 because their str is so bad by default anyways.		'''Nets:''' Enemy units in contact with friendly units with this rule get combat penalties. Roll a d6 at the start of each combat phase, on 2+ the enemy suffers -1 to str/AP. On a 1 the unit with nets net itself. A unit can only be netted once in a phase (so no reducing enemies to 0 str, at least not with nets alone). This upgrade is great, the downside rarely happens, and the goblins that take this rarely suffer from the -1 because their str is so bad by default anyways.

	'''Shambolic:''' Units with this cannot be joined by characters. If all of the random movement dice for this unit show the same result the unit loses d3 health and moves in a random direction. If a unit with this rule hits pretty much anything besides open terrain they are fucked.		'''Shambolic:''' Units with this cannot be joined by characters. If all of the random movement dice for this unit show the same result, the unit loses d3 health and moves in a random direction. If a unit with this rule hits pretty much anything besides open terrain, they are fucked.

	'''Running Amok!!''' Units with this rule move in a random direction when using random movement.		'''Running Amok!!''' Units with this rule move in a random direction when using random movement.

	'''Ricochet(x):''' When models with this rule come into contact with any other unit it moves through them and inflicts (x) hits. The rule is more complicated than this, but the rulebooks are free and I'm not going to type it all out here.		'''Ricochet(x):''' When models with this rule come into contact with any other unit, it moves through them and inflicts (x) hits. The rule is more complicated than this, but the rulebooks are free, and I'm not going to type it all out here.

	'''Born to Fight:''' gain +1 Str and AP during the first Combat Round or if the unit is Steadfast. Charge wide to maximize contact then reform to be deeper than your opponent so you can outgrind most anything. All of your orcs have this and you need to use it. If you forget to take full advantage of Born to Fight you should just spam goblins. Orcs require you to abuse this to get the most out of their attacks.		'''Born to Fight:''' gain +1 Str and AP during the first Combat Round or if the unit is Steadfast. Charge wide to maximize contact, then reform to be deeper than your opponent so you can outgrind most anything. All of your orcs have this, and you need to use it. If you forget to take full advantage of Born to Fight, you should just spam goblins. Orcs require you to abuse this to get the most out of their attacks.

	'''Venomous Fangs:''' For Wyvern and Gargantulas, before rolling attacks from this model nominate one of its attacks to be the venomous fangs, that one attack gains multiple wounds (d3+1). Even if this attack turns into more attacks (like with battle focus) only that one attack has multiple wounds. A great force multiplier against heroes and monsters but can be a bit hit-or-miss being on only one attack.		'''Venomous Fangs:''' For Wyvern and Gargantulas, before rolling attacks from this model, nominate one of its attacks to be the venomous fangs, that one attack gains multiple wounds (d3+1). Even if this attack turns into more attacks (like with battle focus) only that one attack has multiple wounds. A great force multiplier against heroes and monsters but can be a bit hit-or-miss being on only one attack.

	'''Mammoth Stabber:''' Available to your footslogging feral orcs. Gives them some impact hits, not a huge boost, but will fuck any monster they charge.		'''Mammoth Stabber:''' Available to your footslogging feral orcs. Gives them some impact hits, not a huge boost, but will fuck any monster they charge.