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	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Kislev\| Kislev]]''':		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Kislev\| Kislev]]''':

	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Lizardmen\| Lizardmen]]''': <s>This match up sucks</s> or at least it did before the Ghorgon showed up! Now that you actually have a way to take down big monsters you no longer need to worry about losing the game simply because you have no way to deal with giant monsters. Hold them down with Razorgors and spam spears for anti large and try to get your big cows to slap them around. Just make sure that you bring plenty of tools to take down Chameleon ~~Skins~~, because ~~other wise~~ the lack of army is going to put the Ghorgon down fast. Bestigors can fight Saurus and with cheap, cost effective chariots the infantry fight shouldn't be the hardest thing ever.		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Lizardmen\| Lizardmen]]''': <s>This match up sucks</s> or at least it did before the Ghorgon showed up! Now that you actually have a way to take down big monsters you no longer need to worry about losing the game simply because you have no way to deal with giant monsters. Hold them down with Razorgors and spam spears for anti large and try to get your big cows to slap them around. Just make sure that you bring plenty of tools to take down Chameleon Skinks, because otherwise the lack of army is going to put the Ghorgon down fast. Bestigors can fight Saurus and with cheap, cost effective chariots the infantry fight shouldn't be the hardest thing ever.

	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Norsca\| Norsca]]''': This used to be a relatively not fun one since you had very little that could effectively deal with both large monsters and Berserker rushes, but with the Silence and the Fury now you do! Most Norscans will bring berserkers as they will easily mow down most of your infantry and allow their big monsters to run amok in your lines. There are two ways to handle them, either get Ungor chaff with Spawn to rip apart Berserkers and get mass for monsters in exchange for missile vulnerability. The other option is simply throw Bestigors at them, as they'll win against any Norscan infantry in a vacuum and aren't as vulnerable to missiles but can't really stop monsters. For monsters you get either get a Ghorgon to slap them down in a straight brawl or, if you want something less vulnerable to missiles, get a Doombull/Taurox and Gorebull combo as a more mobile combo to tie down and tear Mammoths apart. If you aren't going for a Doombull get Malagor as frankly he is OP right now.		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Norsca\| Norsca]]''': This used to be a relatively not fun one since you had very little that could effectively deal with both large monsters and Berserker rushes, but with the Silence and the Fury now you do! Most Norscans will bring berserkers as they will easily mow down most of your infantry and allow their big monsters to run amok in your lines. There are two ways to handle them, either get Ungor chaff with Spawn to rip apart Berserkers and get mass for monsters in exchange for missile vulnerability. The other option is simply throw Bestigors at them, as they'll win against any Norscan infantry in a vacuum and aren't as vulnerable to missiles but can't really stop monsters. For monsters you get either get a Ghorgon to slap them down in a straight brawl or, if you want something less vulnerable to missiles, get a Doombull/Taurox and Gorebull combo as a more mobile combo to tie down and tear Mammoths apart. If you aren't going for a Doombull get Malagor as frankly he is OP right now.

	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Nurgle\| Nurgle]]''': Prepare to suffer. ~~you~~ rely on getting that charge in and Nurgle has enough toughness and healing power to weather through it while grinding you down.		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Nurgle\| Nurgle]]''': Prepare to suffer. You rely on getting that charge in and Nurgle has enough toughness and healing power to weather through it while grinding you down.

	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Ogre Kingdoms\| Ogre Kingdoms]]''': Oddly enough, you guys have ''a lot'' in common. You're both generally low-armored and do most of your damage by charging, but while Ogres are all Mass and ignore Charge Defense, you're all Charge Bonus and comedically low Mass (rip Doombulls). While Minotaurs with Great Weapons will trounce any footslogging Ogre on the charge, Ogre Monster Cav will fuck your day up, end of story, so expect Ogres to bring lots. They also have proper artillery, while you're stuck chucking rocks.		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Ogre Kingdoms\| Ogre Kingdoms]]''': Oddly enough, you guys have ''a lot'' in common. You're both generally low-armored and do most of your damage by charging, but while Ogres are all Mass and ignore Charge Defense, you're all Charge Bonus and comedically low Mass (rip Doombulls). While Minotaurs with Great Weapons will trounce any footslogging Ogre on the charge, Ogre Monster Cav will fuck your day up, end of story, so expect Ogres to bring lots. They also have proper artillery, while you're stuck chucking rocks.
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	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Vampire Counts\| Vampire Counts]]''': What used to be one of the worst possible matchups for the Cloven Ones is now one of their better ones thanks to the monsters provided in The Silence & The Fury. The vamps have no archers to target, everything is unbreakable and will kill your already poor leadership. Unlike the Lizardmen you know exactly what they will bring, an expendable frontline with 3 Blood Knights and a Mortis Engine to kill blobs. That was all once very scary, but now you have the tools to deal with it. Ghorgons have arrived and they can hunt Blood Knights or Mortis Engines to the ends of the Earth. You also now have your own Mortis Engine in the form of the Jabberslythe, who is excellent at burning through blobs of chaff. Aside from these showstoppers Chaos Spawn are nice since they can't rout and can take on most Vampire Infantry with no issue. Centigors with throwing axes are good against Blood Knights, so save your ammo for then. Razorgors are also good for blocking in Blood Knights and other more mobile threats, carving them up with AP while your Ghorgons beeline for the kill. Aside from that, grab a bunch of ungors or gors to throw into the grind; you're probably not going to need anything fancy in the infantry department considering how crummy skeletons and zombies are, but consider bringing a Wargor to buff up the leadership of your own troops.		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Vampire Counts\| Vampire Counts]]''': What used to be one of the worst possible matchups for the Cloven Ones is now one of their better ones thanks to the monsters provided in The Silence & The Fury. The vamps have no archers to target, everything is unbreakable and will kill your already poor leadership. Unlike the Lizardmen you know exactly what they will bring, an expendable frontline with 3 Blood Knights and a Mortis Engine to kill blobs. That was all once very scary, but now you have the tools to deal with it. Ghorgons have arrived and they can hunt Blood Knights or Mortis Engines to the ends of the Earth. You also now have your own Mortis Engine in the form of the Jabberslythe, who is excellent at burning through blobs of chaff. Aside from these showstoppers Chaos Spawn are nice since they can't rout and can take on most Vampire Infantry with no issue. Centigors with throwing axes are good against Blood Knights, so save your ammo for then. Razorgors are also good for blocking in Blood Knights and other more mobile threats, carving them up with AP while your Ghorgons beeline for the kill. Aside from that, grab a bunch of ungors or gors to throw into the grind; you're probably not going to need anything fancy in the infantry department considering how crummy skeletons and zombies are, but consider bringing a Wargor to buff up the leadership of your own troops.

	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Warriors of Chaos\| Warriors of Chaos]]''': In order to prove to the pretenders that you are the true servants of the gods, you will need to find a way through all that armor. Fortunately all that armor is usually in their infantry not their monsters, so a Bestigor or two can cut through Chaos Warriors without much issue. If you want more numbers in your AP options, cycle charging Razorgors combined with Ungors can provided a hard hitting AP mess that Chaos Warriors can have a hard time getting through. If they go for Marauders for a frontline and invest elsewhere, then infantry shouldn't be a problem. Minotaurs can also help, especially the Butchers as they can regen through most of what Chaos can throw at them. Marauder Horseman can be a pain in your ass since their mobility can allow them to get their javelins into your unarmoured troops. Centigors can beat them in melee and have the speed to catch them, though they won't last long if something scary gets a hold of them. Raiders are also useful as Chaos Spawn tend to be popular so arrow volleys can come in handy. Since you don't have too many scary SEM or heavy cav Dragon Ogres are fairly uncommon, but if they show up drown them in spears and cycle charge Minotaurs or Ghorgons to carve them up.		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Warriors of Chaos\| Warriors of Chaos]]''': In order to prove to the pretenders that you are the true servants of the gods, you will need to find a way through all that armor. Fortunately all that armor is usually in their infantry not their monsters, so a Bestigor or two can cut through Chaos Warriors without much issue. If you want more numbers in your AP options, cycle charging Razorgors combined with Ungors can provided a hard hitting AP mess that Chaos Warriors can have a hard time getting through. If they go for Marauders for a frontline and invest elsewhere, then infantry shouldn't be a problem. Minotaurs can also help, especially the Butchers as they can regen through most of what Chaos can throw at them. Marauder Horseman can be a pain in your ass since their mobility can allow them to get their javelins into your unarmoured troops. Centigors can beat them in melee and have the speed to catch them, though they won't last long if something scary gets a hold of them. Raiders are also useful as Chaos Spawn tend to be popular so arrow volleys can come in handy. Since you don't have too many scary SEM or heavy cav, Dragon Ogres are fairly uncommon, but if they show up drown them in spears and cycle charge Minotaurs or Ghorgons to carve them up.

	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Wood Elves\| Wood Elves]]''': Two things you want to bring against the Asrai, shields and mobility. You will need hounds and Centigors to hunt down all of the annoying archers that Wood Elves love to bring against you. They should be able to deal with Asrai Spear cav if you bring enough of them, then you can swarm them into the archer position. Dryads tend to be the most popular frontline for the Wood Elves, so Gors with shield should be your infantry option against them. You may question the use of Razorgors due to the lack of armor, but they are useful for pinning Dragons or other monsters in place for your raiders or cav to get a hold of. It's a battle of mobility, and if you win out in the mobile game you should be able to take the field fairly quickly.		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Wood Elves\| Wood Elves]]''': Two things you want to bring against the Asrai, shields and mobility. You will need hounds and Centigors to hunt down all of the annoying archers that Wood Elves love to bring against you. They should be able to deal with Asrai Spear cav if you bring enough of them, then you can swarm them into the archer position. Dryads tend to be the most popular frontline for the Wood Elves, so Gors with shield should be your infantry option against them. You may question the use of Razorgors due to the lack of armor, but they are useful for pinning Dragons or other monsters in place for your raiders or cav to get a hold of. It's a battle of mobility, and if you win out in the mobile game you should be able to take the field fairly quickly.

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	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Dark Elves\| Dark Elves]]''': Dark Elves are known for bringing a ton of Mobile AP with Dark Rider Crossbows, Scourgerunners and Darkshards. This means your lack of Armor actually comes in handy as you don't really care about the AP. They don't really bring elite infantry so Gor Herds will be able to get you control of the frontline fairly quickly. Don't bring Minotaurs, as Scourgerunners will kite them into another dimension. Cygors are also great here as Elves don't really have much that can deal with them, allowing you to send rocks into their Cav and crossbows with relative safety. Bonuses with the Eye of Morsslieb, as it can lock down Crossbow Cav for your Centigors to rip to pieces. Ungor Raiders are also good for poking skirmish cav if they come close. Aside from that get some cheap spears for bodies and just try your best to beat the Druchii in the mobile game.		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Dark Elves\| Dark Elves]]''': Dark Elves are known for bringing a ton of Mobile AP with Dark Rider Crossbows, Scourgerunners and Darkshards. This means your lack of Armor actually comes in handy as you don't really care about the AP. They don't really bring elite infantry so Gor Herds will be able to get you control of the frontline fairly quickly. Don't bring Minotaurs, as Scourgerunners will kite them into another dimension. Cygors are also great here as Elves don't really have much that can deal with them, allowing you to send rocks into their Cav and crossbows with relative safety. Bonuses with the Eye of Morsslieb, as it can lock down Crossbow Cav for your Centigors to rip to pieces. Ungor Raiders are also good for poking skirmish cav if they come close. Aside from that get some cheap spears for bodies and just try your best to beat the Druchii in the mobile game.

	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Dwarfs\| Dwarfs]]''': Yeah you are more than well equipped enough to deal with the Dwarfs. Bestigors are of course amazing here as they can take on the vast majority of the Dwarf frontline and win, though they can be vulnerable to missile fire. If you want to go cheap and expend elsewhere, go for more expendable axe ungors and invest more in Chariots and Minotaurs. Razorgors and Razorgor chariots are great for their AP to get through the Dwarf line and get to the juicy ranged units that are behind them. Minotaurs are a risky pick as they can be taken out by skirmishers and Slayers but if you can micro them well they can do a lot for you. Harpies can also do a ton for you as they can fly over the Dwarf lines and get on the guns and artillery before they get the chance to cause too much damage. And if the Dwarfs waste ammo on your expendable ~~fliers~~, all the better. Raiders can also be useful, as while their arrows will boink off the armor of the standard Dwarf line, they can cause some cost effective damage to Slayers and help out your large targets. With your mobility and plentiful AP options you'll be able to handle most Dwarf armies, though don't be surprised if one catches you off guard now and then.		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Dwarfs\| Dwarfs]]''': Yeah you are more than well equipped enough to deal with the Dwarfs. Bestigors are of course amazing here as they can take on the vast majority of the Dwarf frontline and win, though they can be vulnerable to missile fire. If you want to go cheap and expend elsewhere, go for more expendable axe ungors and invest more in Chariots and Minotaurs. Razorgors and Razorgor chariots are great for their AP to get through the Dwarf line and get to the juicy ranged units that are behind them. Minotaurs are a risky pick as they can be taken out by skirmishers and Slayers but if you can micro them well they can do a lot for you. Harpies can also do a ton for you as they can fly over the Dwarf lines and get on the guns and artillery before they get the chance to cause too much damage. And if the Dwarfs waste ammo on your expendable flyers, all the better. Raiders can also be useful, as while their arrows will boink off the armor of the standard Dwarf line, they can cause some cost effective damage to Slayers and help out your large targets. With your mobility and plentiful AP options you'll be able to handle most Dwarf armies, though don't be surprised if one catches you off guard now and then.

	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Empire\| Empire]]''': Once again, dealing with Knights is going to be your big hurdle, though fortunately they aren't quite as big of a pain in the ass as the Bretonnian version. Of course, grabbing spear Ungors is a must to spread the field in Anti Large, so a few of those will certainly help you. Grab Centigor Great Weapons and Razogors to pin them down and you can get some charges off for some good damage. Poison Warhounds are also good for dealing with ~~Outiders~~ and Pistoliers since they can slow them down for Centigors to get on top of. If you can keep them safe, throwing axe Centigors can also help out a ton in dealing with Knights. Once the heavy cav is gone their skirmishers and artillery are free food for your Centigors and Hounds. Gor Herds with shields should be enough to deal with most Empire frontlines as Greatswords tend to be pretty rare in this match up. The Butchers are of debatable usefulness since while they can survive arrow volleys and help with Knights the Empire has plenty of ways to deal with monsters, especially of the regenerating kind. It's fairly similar to the Bretonnia match up only the Knights are slightly weaker.		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Empire\| Empire]]''': Once again, dealing with Knights is going to be your big hurdle, though fortunately they aren't quite as big of a pain in the ass as the Bretonnian version. Of course, grabbing spear Ungors is a must to spread the field in Anti Large, so a few of those will certainly help you. Grab Centigor Great Weapons and Razogors to pin them down and you can get some charges off for some good damage. Poison Warhounds are also good for dealing with Outriders and Pistoliers since they can slow them down for Centigors to get on top of. If you can keep them safe, throwing axe Centigors can also help out a ton in dealing with Knights. Once the heavy cav is gone their skirmishers and artillery are free food for your Centigors and Hounds. Gor Herds with shields should be enough to deal with most Empire frontlines as Greatswords tend to be pretty rare in this match up. The Butchers are of debatable usefulness since while they can survive arrow volleys and help with Knights, the Empire has plenty of ways to deal with monsters, especially of the regenerating kind. It's fairly similar to the Bretonnia match up only the Knights are slightly weaker.

	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Grand Cathay\| Grand Cathay]]''':		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Grand Cathay\| Grand Cathay]]''':

	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Greenskins\| Greenskins]]''': Black Orcs aside Greenskins don't have much in terms of armor in their frontline so Chaos Spawn can help out a lot. Of course, with their plentiful skirmishing options they have ways of shooting Spawn to pieces. Centigors can thus be a good asset in chasing down Spider and Wolf cav and getting them away from your squishier units. You likely won't see Black Orcs due to your lack of armor and if you do, Razorgor support can help your Ungor and Gor frontline deal with them. Of course the biggest thing you will have to worry about here is all the big armoured monsters Orcs love to bring like Rogue Idols and Arachnarok Spiders. In this situation, throwing axe Centigors are your friends, as they can deal with the heavy armor without getting into melee with them. If you struggle with micro or ammo preservation you can also go with one or two Gorebulls with Minotaur support. They will have issues with ranged attacks and aren't as safe as throwing axe Centigors but if you can get them on ~~and~~ Idol or support an attack on a Spider they can rip a very sizable chunk out of it. Or, if you have The Silence and The Fury throw a Ghorgon at them and make sure the enemy skirmishers stay the hell away. With a bit of support the big cow should deal with any monsters the Orcs can throw at you.		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Greenskins\| Greenskins]]''': Black Orcs aside Greenskins don't have much in terms of armor in their frontline so Chaos Spawn can help out a lot. Of course, with their plentiful skirmishing options they have ways of shooting Spawn to pieces. Centigors can thus be a good asset in chasing down Spider and Wolf cav and getting them away from your squishier units. You likely won't see Black Orcs due to your lack of armor and if you do, Razorgor support can help your Ungor and Gor frontline deal with them. Of course the biggest thing you will have to worry about here is all the big armoured monsters Orcs love to bring like Rogue Idols and Arachnarok Spiders. In this situation, throwing axe Centigors are your friends, as they can deal with the heavy armor without getting into melee with them. If you struggle with micro or ammo preservation you can also go with one or two Gorebulls with Minotaur support. They will have issues with ranged attacks and aren't as safe as throwing axe Centigors but if you can get them on an Idol or support an attack on a Spider they can rip a very sizable chunk out of it. Or, if you have The Silence and The Fury throw a Ghorgon at them and make sure the enemy skirmishers stay the hell away. With a bit of support the big cow should deal with any monsters the Orcs can throw at you.

	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/High Elves\| High Elves]]''': Fairly similar to the Dark Elves in that in this match up they tend to rely on mobile skirmishing to get the job done. In that case, a Cygor can work wonders. It will be able to chuck rocks at the Reaver Archers and get some of that annoying archer cav off the field. In the same vein Raiders can unleash some volleys into Ellyrion Reaver Archers if they get too close. Centigors aren't that great here because High Elves have one thing that Dark Elves don't, reliable mid to high tier cav. As such some spears can be helpful to scare off any attempt at a cav charge while Gors can carve through most of the frontline that Elves tend to bring. Rangers can do some decent damage to your infantry and Silverin Guard can hold for a while, but that's about as elite as you can expect to see from High Elf infantry. Swordmasters and Phoenix Guard are too expensive and easy to counter. In case of a Dragon, get a ton of Razorgors and pin that bitch in place for Minotaurs to get on top of and tear to pieces. Centigors with Throwing Axes can also do some reliable damage if he's a bit more apprehensive about landing. Most smart High Elf players won't bring standard archers or bolt throwers but if they do they are free value for your mobile units.		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/High Elves\| High Elves]]''': Fairly similar to the Dark Elves in that in this match up they tend to rely on mobile skirmishing to get the job done. In that case, a Cygor can work wonders. It will be able to chuck rocks at the Reaver Archers and get some of that annoying archer cav off the field. In the same vein Raiders can unleash some volleys into Ellyrion Reaver Archers if they get too close. Centigors aren't that great here because High Elves have one thing that Dark Elves don't, reliable mid to high tier cav. As such some spears can be helpful to scare off any attempt at a cav charge while Gors can carve through most of the frontline that Elves tend to bring. Rangers can do some decent damage to your infantry and Silverin Guard can hold for a while, but that's about as elite as you can expect to see from High Elf infantry. Swordmasters and Phoenix Guard are too expensive and easy to counter. In case of a Dragon, get a ton of Razorgors and pin that bitch in place for Minotaurs to get on top of and tear to pieces. Centigors with Throwing Axes can also do some reliable damage if he's a bit more apprehensive about landing. Most smart High Elf players won't bring standard archers or bolt throwers but if they do they are free value for your mobile units.

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	**Unfortunately ''not'' Doomstack material, even if you're playing Taurox. Auto-resolve hates them, so you can burn the entire unit out with Taurox's "slaughter one army, then the next, until everyone's dead" playstyle		**Unfortunately ''not'' Doomstack material, even if you're playing Taurox. Auto-resolve hates them, so you can burn the entire unit out with Taurox's "slaughter one army, then the next, until everyone's dead" playstyle

	*'''[[Giant]]''': God this thing sucks and doesn't synergize at all with the roster. It hits like a truck but it's slow, has no armor, can't ambush or hide, and kind of craps on what Beastmen like to do in general. And now that the Ghorgon is finally here it's redundant on top of that since the big cow now fill every hole that this thing filled. Now there is absolutely no reason to grab this thing, as aside from survivability the Ghorgon just does its job way better.		*'''[[Giant]]''': God this thing sucks and doesn't synergize at all with the roster. It hits like a truck but it's slow, has no armor, can't ambush or hide, and kind of craps on what Beastmen like to do in general. And now that the Ghorgon is finally here it's redundant on top of that since the big cow now fill every hole that this thing filled. Now there is absolutely no reason to grab this thing, as aside from survivability, the Ghorgon just does its job way better.
	**in campaign however it's worth grabbing a few, not intentionally increasing their capacity by themselves but only because increasing capacity for Giants also increases Chaos Spawn capacity too. Their vunerability is offset by the fact they're one turn to recruit and free so they have a bit more use than on any other faction, being tier 3 to recruit and also available from Herdstones makes them great in secondary stacks.		**In campaign however it's worth grabbing a few, not intentionally increasing their capacity by themselves but only because increasing capacity for Giants also increases Chaos Spawn capacity too. Their vunerability is offset by the fact they're one turn to recruit and free so they have a bit more use than on any other faction, being tier 3 to recruit and also available from Herdstones makes them great in secondary stacks.
	**Aside from the aforementioned Chaos Spawn/Giant pairing, Morghur can make the most out of Giants because of the Chaos Boons from his tech-tree. You can make them faster and hit more often, Very Tanky with improved Regen, or Invisible and Unspottable, all of which can help Giants ''get'' to the melee.		**Aside from the aforementioned Chaos Spawn/Giant pairing, Morghur can make the most out of Giants because of the Chaos Boons from his tech-tree. You can make them faster and hit more often, Very Tanky with improved Regen, or Invisible and Unspottable, all of which can help Giants ''get'' to the melee.

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	===Heroes===		===Heroes===
	*'''[[Bray Shaman]]''': Your generic caster hero and he does what you expect most mages in this game to do to be honest, so he's always handy to have around. He has access to the Lore of Beasts, Shadows, Death, and Wilds, so he focuses more ~~only~~ blowing shit up with magic prowess more than healing or straight-up buffs, not that he's incapable of doing that. Since you pretty much got to bring this guy in most armies unless you have Malagor, you may as well put him on the chariot, as when you do that he becomes pretty decent at cycle charging infantry to death as well. If mounted on a Tuskgor Chariot he gains vanguard deployment.		*'''[[Bray Shaman]]''': Your generic caster hero and he does what you expect most mages in this game to do to be honest, so he's always handy to have around. He has access to the Lore of Beasts, Shadows, Death, and Wilds, so he focuses more on blowing shit up with magic prowess more than healing or straight-up buffs, not that he's incapable of doing that. Since you pretty much got to bring this guy in most armies unless you have Malagor, you may as well put him on the chariot, as when you do that he becomes pretty decent at cycle charging infantry to death as well. If mounted on a Tuskgor Chariot he gains vanguard deployment.
	*'''[[Gorebull]]''': The first monstrous character (aside from Kholek and Sarthoreal) to be put into the game. This guy is a beast who specializes in AP anti large, so see if you can throw him against any monsters to chip down. He also acts as a pretty good bodyguard for your squishier lords or casters since who the hell wants to be fighting a nine-foot-tall minotaur with a big fuck off axe. The Gorebull does have one infamous weakness that makes him a meme in the community though, his mass. For whatever reason, it is really easy to knock this guy around like a pinball and send him flying to Saturn. Now a Dragon or Giant would understandably be able to do this, but something like a troll should NOT be able to throw this guy around so easily. Seriously, look up Gorebull Mass and you will probably find some damn good memes. This means he has issues sticking to his targets since anything big can just throw him halfway across the map. Still, a pretty good hero is you're able to keep him within orbit.		*'''[[Gorebull]]''': The first monstrous character (aside from Kholek and Sarthoreal) to be put into the game. This guy is a beast who specializes in AP anti large, so see if you can throw him against any monsters to chip down. He also acts as a pretty good bodyguard for your squishier lords or casters since who the hell wants to be fighting a nine-foot-tall minotaur with a big fuck off axe. The Gorebull does have one infamous weakness that makes him a meme in the community though, his mass. For whatever reason, it is really easy to knock this guy around like a pinball and send him flying to Saturn. Now a Dragon or Giant would understandably be able to do this, but something like a troll should NOT be able to throw this guy around so easily. Seriously, look up Gorebull Mass and you will probably find some damn good memes. This means he has issues sticking to his targets since anything big can just throw him halfway across the map. Still, a pretty good hero is you're able to keep him within orbit.
	**<s>The Twisted and Twilight patch has fixed some knockdown problems that have been plaguing all foot lords, not just Gorebull, so rocketing will be a rarer occasion than in the past.</s> Nope, this guy still has the mass of a rubber ball. Sorry.		**<s>The Twisted and Twilight patch has fixed some knockdown problems that have been plaguing all foot lords, not just Gorebull, so rocketing will be a rarer occasion than in the past.</s> Nope, this guy still has the mass of a rubber ball. Sorry.

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	*'''[[Beastlord]]''': Your infantry melee choice and as far as generic lords go he's... Meh? He's pretty much just Khazrak only he trades some melee prowess in exchange for an extra buffing ability for him and his army. Ironically this means in multiplayer he's considered better than Khazrak since he can actually help out all the poor goatmen who are stuck in melee. Other than that, you pretty much use him like you use Khazrak. Put him on that chariot and blast Ludacris on your speakers as you run your enemies the fuck over.		*'''[[Beastlord]]''': Your infantry melee choice and as far as generic lords go he's... Meh? He's pretty much just Khazrak only he trades some melee prowess in exchange for an extra buffing ability for him and his army. Ironically this means in multiplayer he's considered better than Khazrak since he can actually help out all the poor goatmen who are stuck in melee. Other than that, you pretty much use him like you use Khazrak. Put him on that chariot and blast Ludacris on your speakers as you run your enemies the fuck over.

	*'''[[Doombull]] (DLC)''': Budget Taurox, only instead of using axes he just punches people to death. He's a big bruiser lord similar to ~~The~~ Kroxigor Ancient, and comes with the ability to Daze his opponents so when he punches someone in the face they lose speed and Melee Defense, making them easier to stick on and kill. His Barbed Knuckle Boxing also gives him more attack and weapon damage. Very similar to Taurox, though less survivable and cheaper.		*'''[[Doombull]] (DLC)''': Budget Taurox, only instead of using axes he just punches people to death. He's a big bruiser lord similar to the Kroxigor Ancient, and comes with the ability to Daze his opponents so when he punches someone in the face they lose speed and Melee Defense, making them easier to stick on and kill. His Barbed Knuckle Boxing also gives him more attack and weapon damage. Very similar to Taurox, though less survivable and cheaper.

	*'''Great Bray Shaman''': Confirmed as a FLC lord for the Beastmen on Total War access. He will be the generic caster lord for the goatmen, giving them some much needed lord variety. He comes with a Tuskgor and Razorgor chariot mount. He's great if you just want to save money on a caster by wrapping him up with your lord.		*'''Great Bray Shaman''': Confirmed as a FLC lord for the Beastmen on Total War access. He will be the generic caster lord for the goatmen, giving them some much needed lord variety. He comes with a Tuskgor and Razorgor chariot mount. He's great if you just want to save money on a caster by wrapping him up with your lord.

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	==Legendary Lords==		==Legendary Lords==
	*'''[[Khazrak The One-Eye]]''': Your big named bastard who focuses on combat. With armor that provides a 20% damage resistance when in melee and a massive anti Infantry combat steroid, he's a beast in physical combat, especially on his chariot. Since Beastmen chariots are actually pretty good, this guy can be a menace ~~with~~ microed well. His biggest problem is that while he is a decent combat lord he really doesn't do much to help the army as a whole, and mostly just exists to run over the enemy. Granted, he does that pretty darn well, but since the Beastmen units generally need some form of leadership support in order to keep them in the fight this guy usually gets overlooked when it comes to multiplayer. He probably won't lose you a battle, but he probably also won't be the reason you win either.		*'''[[Khazrak The One-Eye]]''': Your big named bastard who focuses on combat. With armor that provides a 20% damage resistance when in melee and a massive anti Infantry combat steroid, he's a beast in physical combat, especially on his chariot. Since Beastmen chariots are actually pretty good, this guy can be a menace when microed well. His biggest problem is that while he is a decent combat lord he really doesn't do much to help the army as a whole, and mostly just exists to run over the enemy. Granted, he does that pretty darn well, but since the Beastmen units generally need some form of leadership support in order to keep them in the fight this guy usually gets overlooked when it comes to multiplayer. He probably won't lose you a battle, but he probably also won't be the reason you win either.

	*'''[[Malagor The Dark Omen]]''': The only caster Legendary Lord you currently have, and after his rework he has become one of the best lords in the whole game. he comes with a mixed lore of magic from Beasts, Shadows, Death and Wild with some good damage spells and the ability to summon Cygors out of the ground to bash your enemies to pieces. He flies meaning he's easier to maneuver or run to safety than most lords but if the enemy has any flying units harpies are mandatory to cover for him. In campaign, this guy is so fast and can get so much magic reduction costs that in the late game he can win battles all on his own. However the Beastmen lack of air power means you'll want to toggle his flying off and use him as a boring ~~footlord~~ if you're up against a faction with a strong air force like Bretonnia, High Elves and Vampire Counts.		*'''[[Malagor The Dark Omen]]''': The only caster Legendary Lord you currently have, and after his rework he has become one of the best lords in the whole game. he comes with a mixed lore of magic from Beasts, Shadows, Death and Wild with some good damage spells and the ability to summon Cygors out of the ground to bash your enemies to pieces. He flies meaning he's easier to maneuver or run to safety than most lords but if the enemy has any flying units, harpies are mandatory to cover for him. In campaign, this guy is so fast and can get so much magic reduction costs that in the late game he can win battles all on his own. However the Beastmen lack of air power means you'll want to toggle his flying off and use him as a boring foot lord if you're up against a faction with a strong air force like Bretonnia, High Elves and Vampire Counts.

	*'''[[Morghur The Shadowgave]]''':Morghur's main draw is the ability to get free value on the field and supply your army with free units. For one, while he is a foot lord he has crazy high regeneration, meaning killing him is actually pretty damn hard. On top of that, his abilities are just flat out amazing. He gets a free Chaos Spawn summon to use whenever the hell he feels like it, so you can surprise the enemy with surprise butt sex. On top of that, he has a really cool passive that makes it so that once per battle, when an enemy unit reaches below a certain health point, they die and spawn a friendly unit of spawn. That means this guy can get you two extra units on the battlefield FOR FREE. Needless to say, that is amazing and as such he is the go-to lord pick for 90% of Multiplayer Beastmen lists.		*'''[[Morghur The Shadowgave]]''': Morghur's main draw is the ability to get free value on the field and supply your army with free units. For one, while he is a foot lord, he has crazy high regeneration, meaning killing him is actually pretty damn hard. On top of that, his abilities are just flat out amazing. He gets a free Chaos Spawn summon to use whenever the hell he feels like it, so you can surprise the enemy with surprise butt sex. On top of that, he has a really cool passive that makes it so that once per battle, when an enemy unit reaches below a certain health point, they die and spawn a friendly unit of spawn. That means this guy can get you two extra units on the battlefield FOR FREE. Needless to say, that is amazing and as such he is the go-to lord pick for 90% of Multiplayer Beastmen lists.

	*'''[[Taurox The Brass Bull]] (DLC)''': Available in The Silence and The Fury, Big daddy bull is coming to save the Beastmen in their hour of need. He is the Beastmen's monstrous lord and his main job will be to beat the living crap out of whatever you point him at. He is a tanky beast with Armor Piercing fire damage and numerous abilities and weapons that increases his melee prowess even further. His Brass Body ability gives him a 40% damage resistance and melee defense making him even harder to kill, though interestingly his weak point doesn't play into the game even though it shows up on the model. I guess CA didn't like the idea of you randomly losing your lord because Tzeentch felt like being a dick. If he does get in harm's way he also has an ~~AOE~~ explosion around himself to give him a get out of jail free card. In multiplayer he's very expensive, has a big hit box and weak to armor piercing missiles, so there are probably safer, if less fun, options there.		*'''[[Taurox The Brass Bull]] (DLC)''': Available in The Silence and The Fury, Big daddy bull is coming to save the Beastmen in their hour of need. He is the Beastmen's monstrous lord and his main job will be to beat the living crap out of whatever you point him at. He is a tanky beast with Armor Piercing fire damage and numerous abilities and weapons that increases his melee prowess even further. His Brass Body ability gives him a 40% damage resistance and melee defense making him even harder to kill, though interestingly his weak point doesn't play into the game even though it shows up on the model. I guess CA didn't like the idea of you randomly losing your lord because Tzeentch felt like being a dick. If he does get in harm's way he also has an AoE explosion around himself to give him a get out of jail free card. In multiplayer he's very expensive, has a big hit box and weak to armor piercing missiles, so there are probably safer, if less fun, options there.

	==Units==		==Units==

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	*'''Poor Leadership''': Most of your army has leadership that can best be described as "A 50's reality show housewife who just saw a [[Skaven\|Rat]]." expect your units to be running a lot. The Wargor helps a little but he won't be keeping your troops in line for long as he doesn't provide any fear immunities.		*'''Poor Leadership''': Most of your army has leadership that can best be described as "A 50's reality show housewife who just saw a [[Skaven\|Rat]]." expect your units to be running a lot. The Wargor helps a little but he won't be keeping your troops in line for long as he doesn't provide any fear immunities.
	*'''No Heavy Cav''': You don't have any cavalry options which can win in a one on one slugging match against enemy heavy cavalry. Centigors get pimpslapped even by Orc Cav.		*'''No Heavy Cav''': You don't have any cavalry options which can win in a one on one slugging match against enemy heavy cavalry. Centigors get pimpslapped even by Orc Cav.
	*'''Poor Ranged''': While you are ok at ranged by Chaos standards, you are made to primarily be a melee faction. Raiders and Throwing Axe Centigors have very limited range and Cygors are uber expensive. While you do have options, you will need to get up close and ~~personnel~~ to deal with the enemy most of the time.		*'''Poor Ranged''': While you are ok at ranged by Chaos standards, you are made to primarily be a melee faction. Raiders and Throwing Axe Centigors have very limited range and Cygors are uber expensive. While you do have options, you will need to get up close and personal to deal with the enemy most of the time.

	==Universal Traits==		==Universal Traits==

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	You also have a new unique currency called '''Dread''', which you get for winning battles. Using Dread lets you increase your unit caps, give you more heroes, and gives you general upgrades and magic items for your armies to play around with. By far the coolest thing about it is that you can use it to essentially purchase the other Beastmen Legendary Lords into your faction, auto confederating with them if they're alive and bringing them back if not. This means that you don't have to worry about confederating other Beastmen factions to get their Legendary Lords if you don't want to worry about it. '''Bestial Rage''' is also still around, but now it only connect to Horde Growth so you don't have to worry about attrition. Technologies have been changed to '''Challenges of the Dark Gods''' which won't let you research until you complete some challenges (win 5 ambushes, win 4 battles in one turn, stuff like that.) More will be revealed as gameplay comes out.		You also have a new unique currency called '''Dread''', which you get for winning battles. Using Dread lets you increase your unit caps, give you more heroes, and gives you general upgrades and magic items for your armies to play around with. By far the coolest thing about it is that you can use it to essentially purchase the other Beastmen Legendary Lords into your faction, auto confederating with them if they're alive and bringing them back if not. This means that you don't have to worry about confederating other Beastmen factions to get their Legendary Lords if you don't want to worry about it. '''Bestial Rage''' is also still around, but now it only connect to Horde Growth so you don't have to worry about attrition. Technologies have been changed to '''Challenges of the Dark Gods''' which won't let you research until you complete some challenges (win 5 ambushes, win 4 battles in one turn, stuff like that.) More will be revealed as gameplay comes out.

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	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Kislev\| Kislev]]''':		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Kislev\| Kislev]]''':

	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Lizardmen\| Lizardmen]]''': <s>This match up sucks</s> or at least it did before the Ghorgon showed up! Now that you actually have a way to take down big monsters you no longer need to worry about losing the game simply because you have no way to deal with giant monsters. Hold them down with Razorgors and spam spears for anti large and try to get your big cows to slap them around. Just make sure that you bring plenty of tools to take down Chameleon ~~Skins~~, because ~~other wise~~ the lack of army is going to put the Ghorgon down fast. Bestigors can fight Saurus and with cheap, cost effective chariots the infantry fight shouldn't be the hardest thing ever.		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Lizardmen\| Lizardmen]]''': <s>This match up sucks</s> or at least it did before the Ghorgon showed up! Now that you actually have a way to take down big monsters you no longer need to worry about losing the game simply because you have no way to deal with giant monsters. Hold them down with Razorgors and spam spears for anti large and try to get your big cows to slap them around. Just make sure that you bring plenty of tools to take down Chameleon Skinks, because otherwise the lack of army is going to put the Ghorgon down fast. Bestigors can fight Saurus and with cheap, cost effective chariots the infantry fight shouldn't be the hardest thing ever.

	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Norsca\| Norsca]]''': This used to be a relatively not fun one since you had very little that could effectively deal with both large monsters and Berserker rushes, but with the Silence and the Fury now you do! Most Norscans will bring berserkers as they will easily mow down most of your infantry and allow their big monsters to run amok in your lines. There are two ways to handle them, either get Ungor chaff with Spawn to rip apart Berserkers and get mass for monsters in exchange for missile vulnerability. The other option is simply throw Bestigors at them, as they'll win against any Norscan infantry in a vacuum and aren't as vulnerable to missiles but can't really stop monsters. For monsters you get either get a Ghorgon to slap them down in a straight brawl or, if you want something less vulnerable to missiles, get a Doombull/Taurox and Gorebull combo as a more mobile combo to tie down and tear Mammoths apart. If you aren't going for a Doombull get Malagor as frankly he is OP right now.		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Norsca\| Norsca]]''': This used to be a relatively not fun one since you had very little that could effectively deal with both large monsters and Berserker rushes, but with the Silence and the Fury now you do! Most Norscans will bring berserkers as they will easily mow down most of your infantry and allow their big monsters to run amok in your lines. There are two ways to handle them, either get Ungor chaff with Spawn to rip apart Berserkers and get mass for monsters in exchange for missile vulnerability. The other option is simply throw Bestigors at them, as they'll win against any Norscan infantry in a vacuum and aren't as vulnerable to missiles but can't really stop monsters. For monsters you get either get a Ghorgon to slap them down in a straight brawl or, if you want something less vulnerable to missiles, get a Doombull/Taurox and Gorebull combo as a more mobile combo to tie down and tear Mammoths apart. If you aren't going for a Doombull get Malagor as frankly he is OP right now.

	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Nurgle\| Nurgle]]''': Prepare to suffer. ~~you~~ rely on getting that charge in and Nurgle has enough toughness and healing power to weather through it while grinding you down.		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Nurgle\| Nurgle]]''': Prepare to suffer. You rely on getting that charge in and Nurgle has enough toughness and healing power to weather through it while grinding you down.

	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Ogre Kingdoms\| Ogre Kingdoms]]''': Oddly enough, you guys have ''a lot'' in common. You're both generally low-armored and do most of your damage by charging, but while Ogres are all Mass and ignore Charge Defense, you're all Charge Bonus and comedically low Mass (rip Doombulls). While Minotaurs with Great Weapons will trounce any footslogging Ogre on the charge, Ogre Monster Cav will fuck your day up, end of story, so expect Ogres to bring lots. They also have proper artillery, while you're stuck chucking rocks.		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Ogre Kingdoms\| Ogre Kingdoms]]''': Oddly enough, you guys have ''a lot'' in common. You're both generally low-armored and do most of your damage by charging, but while Ogres are all Mass and ignore Charge Defense, you're all Charge Bonus and comedically low Mass (rip Doombulls). While Minotaurs with Great Weapons will trounce any footslogging Ogre on the charge, Ogre Monster Cav will fuck your day up, end of story, so expect Ogres to bring lots. They also have proper artillery, while you're stuck chucking rocks.
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	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Vampire Counts\| Vampire Counts]]''': What used to be one of the worst possible matchups for the Cloven Ones is now one of their better ones thanks to the monsters provided in The Silence & The Fury. The vamps have no archers to target, everything is unbreakable and will kill your already poor leadership. Unlike the Lizardmen you know exactly what they will bring, an expendable frontline with 3 Blood Knights and a Mortis Engine to kill blobs. That was all once very scary, but now you have the tools to deal with it. Ghorgons have arrived and they can hunt Blood Knights or Mortis Engines to the ends of the Earth. You also now have your own Mortis Engine in the form of the Jabberslythe, who is excellent at burning through blobs of chaff. Aside from these showstoppers Chaos Spawn are nice since they can't rout and can take on most Vampire Infantry with no issue. Centigors with throwing axes are good against Blood Knights, so save your ammo for then. Razorgors are also good for blocking in Blood Knights and other more mobile threats, carving them up with AP while your Ghorgons beeline for the kill. Aside from that, grab a bunch of ungors or gors to throw into the grind; you're probably not going to need anything fancy in the infantry department considering how crummy skeletons and zombies are, but consider bringing a Wargor to buff up the leadership of your own troops.		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Vampire Counts\| Vampire Counts]]''': What used to be one of the worst possible matchups for the Cloven Ones is now one of their better ones thanks to the monsters provided in The Silence & The Fury. The vamps have no archers to target, everything is unbreakable and will kill your already poor leadership. Unlike the Lizardmen you know exactly what they will bring, an expendable frontline with 3 Blood Knights and a Mortis Engine to kill blobs. That was all once very scary, but now you have the tools to deal with it. Ghorgons have arrived and they can hunt Blood Knights or Mortis Engines to the ends of the Earth. You also now have your own Mortis Engine in the form of the Jabberslythe, who is excellent at burning through blobs of chaff. Aside from these showstoppers Chaos Spawn are nice since they can't rout and can take on most Vampire Infantry with no issue. Centigors with throwing axes are good against Blood Knights, so save your ammo for then. Razorgors are also good for blocking in Blood Knights and other more mobile threats, carving them up with AP while your Ghorgons beeline for the kill. Aside from that, grab a bunch of ungors or gors to throw into the grind; you're probably not going to need anything fancy in the infantry department considering how crummy skeletons and zombies are, but consider bringing a Wargor to buff up the leadership of your own troops.

	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Warriors of Chaos\| Warriors of Chaos]]''': In order to prove to the pretenders that you are the true servants of the gods, you will need to find a way through all that armor. Fortunately all that armor is usually in their infantry not their monsters, so a Bestigor or two can cut through Chaos Warriors without much issue. If you want more numbers in your AP options, cycle charging Razorgors combined with Ungors can provided a hard hitting AP mess that Chaos Warriors can have a hard time getting through. If they go for Marauders for a frontline and invest elsewhere, then infantry shouldn't be a problem. Minotaurs can also help, especially the Butchers as they can regen through most of what Chaos can throw at them. Marauder Horseman can be a pain in your ass since their mobility can allow them to get their javelins into your unarmoured troops. Centigors can beat them in melee and have the speed to catch them, though they won't last long if something scary gets a hold of them. Raiders are also useful as Chaos Spawn tend to be popular so arrow volleys can come in handy. Since you don't have too many scary SEM or heavy cav Dragon Ogres are fairly uncommon, but if they show up drown them in spears and cycle charge Minotaurs or Ghorgons to carve them up.		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Warriors of Chaos\| Warriors of Chaos]]''': In order to prove to the pretenders that you are the true servants of the gods, you will need to find a way through all that armor. Fortunately all that armor is usually in their infantry not their monsters, so a Bestigor or two can cut through Chaos Warriors without much issue. If you want more numbers in your AP options, cycle charging Razorgors combined with Ungors can provided a hard hitting AP mess that Chaos Warriors can have a hard time getting through. If they go for Marauders for a frontline and invest elsewhere, then infantry shouldn't be a problem. Minotaurs can also help, especially the Butchers as they can regen through most of what Chaos can throw at them. Marauder Horseman can be a pain in your ass since their mobility can allow them to get their javelins into your unarmoured troops. Centigors can beat them in melee and have the speed to catch them, though they won't last long if something scary gets a hold of them. Raiders are also useful as Chaos Spawn tend to be popular so arrow volleys can come in handy. Since you don't have too many scary SEM or heavy cav, Dragon Ogres are fairly uncommon, but if they show up drown them in spears and cycle charge Minotaurs or Ghorgons to carve them up.

	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Wood Elves\| Wood Elves]]''': Two things you want to bring against the Asrai, shields and mobility. You will need hounds and Centigors to hunt down all of the annoying archers that Wood Elves love to bring against you. They should be able to deal with Asrai Spear cav if you bring enough of them, then you can swarm them into the archer position. Dryads tend to be the most popular frontline for the Wood Elves, so Gors with shield should be your infantry option against them. You may question the use of Razorgors due to the lack of armor, but they are useful for pinning Dragons or other monsters in place for your raiders or cav to get a hold of. It's a battle of mobility, and if you win out in the mobile game you should be able to take the field fairly quickly.		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Wood Elves\| Wood Elves]]''': Two things you want to bring against the Asrai, shields and mobility. You will need hounds and Centigors to hunt down all of the annoying archers that Wood Elves love to bring against you. They should be able to deal with Asrai Spear cav if you bring enough of them, then you can swarm them into the archer position. Dryads tend to be the most popular frontline for the Wood Elves, so Gors with shield should be your infantry option against them. You may question the use of Razorgors due to the lack of armor, but they are useful for pinning Dragons or other monsters in place for your raiders or cav to get a hold of. It's a battle of mobility, and if you win out in the mobile game you should be able to take the field fairly quickly.

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	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Dark Elves\| Dark Elves]]''': Dark Elves are known for bringing a ton of Mobile AP with Dark Rider Crossbows, Scourgerunners and Darkshards. This means your lack of Armor actually comes in handy as you don't really care about the AP. They don't really bring elite infantry so Gor Herds will be able to get you control of the frontline fairly quickly. Don't bring Minotaurs, as Scourgerunners will kite them into another dimension. Cygors are also great here as Elves don't really have much that can deal with them, allowing you to send rocks into their Cav and crossbows with relative safety. Bonuses with the Eye of Morsslieb, as it can lock down Crossbow Cav for your Centigors to rip to pieces. Ungor Raiders are also good for poking skirmish cav if they come close. Aside from that get some cheap spears for bodies and just try your best to beat the Druchii in the mobile game.		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Dark Elves\| Dark Elves]]''': Dark Elves are known for bringing a ton of Mobile AP with Dark Rider Crossbows, Scourgerunners and Darkshards. This means your lack of Armor actually comes in handy as you don't really care about the AP. They don't really bring elite infantry so Gor Herds will be able to get you control of the frontline fairly quickly. Don't bring Minotaurs, as Scourgerunners will kite them into another dimension. Cygors are also great here as Elves don't really have much that can deal with them, allowing you to send rocks into their Cav and crossbows with relative safety. Bonuses with the Eye of Morsslieb, as it can lock down Crossbow Cav for your Centigors to rip to pieces. Ungor Raiders are also good for poking skirmish cav if they come close. Aside from that get some cheap spears for bodies and just try your best to beat the Druchii in the mobile game.

	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Dwarfs\| Dwarfs]]''': Yeah you are more than well equipped enough to deal with the Dwarfs. Bestigors are of course amazing here as they can take on the vast majority of the Dwarf frontline and win, though they can be vulnerable to missile fire. If you want to go cheap and expend elsewhere, go for more expendable axe ungors and invest more in Chariots and Minotaurs. Razorgors and Razorgor chariots are great for their AP to get through the Dwarf line and get to the juicy ranged units that are behind them. Minotaurs are a risky pick as they can be taken out by skirmishers and Slayers but if you can micro them well they can do a lot for you. Harpies can also do a ton for you as they can fly over the Dwarf lines and get on the guns and artillery before they get the chance to cause too much damage. And if the Dwarfs waste ammo on your expendable ~~fliers~~, all the better. Raiders can also be useful, as while their arrows will boink off the armor of the standard Dwarf line, they can cause some cost effective damage to Slayers and help out your large targets. With your mobility and plentiful AP options you'll be able to handle most Dwarf armies, though don't be surprised if one catches you off guard now and then.		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Dwarfs\| Dwarfs]]''': Yeah you are more than well equipped enough to deal with the Dwarfs. Bestigors are of course amazing here as they can take on the vast majority of the Dwarf frontline and win, though they can be vulnerable to missile fire. If you want to go cheap and expend elsewhere, go for more expendable axe ungors and invest more in Chariots and Minotaurs. Razorgors and Razorgor chariots are great for their AP to get through the Dwarf line and get to the juicy ranged units that are behind them. Minotaurs are a risky pick as they can be taken out by skirmishers and Slayers but if you can micro them well they can do a lot for you. Harpies can also do a ton for you as they can fly over the Dwarf lines and get on the guns and artillery before they get the chance to cause too much damage. And if the Dwarfs waste ammo on your expendable flyers, all the better. Raiders can also be useful, as while their arrows will boink off the armor of the standard Dwarf line, they can cause some cost effective damage to Slayers and help out your large targets. With your mobility and plentiful AP options you'll be able to handle most Dwarf armies, though don't be surprised if one catches you off guard now and then.

	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Empire\| Empire]]''': Once again, dealing with Knights is going to be your big hurdle, though fortunately they aren't quite as big of a pain in the ass as the Bretonnian version. Of course, grabbing spear Ungors is a must to spread the field in Anti Large, so a few of those will certainly help you. Grab Centigor Great Weapons and Razogors to pin them down and you can get some charges off for some good damage. Poison Warhounds are also good for dealing with ~~Outiders~~ and Pistoliers since they can slow them down for Centigors to get on top of. If you can keep them safe, throwing axe Centigors can also help out a ton in dealing with Knights. Once the heavy cav is gone their skirmishers and artillery are free food for your Centigors and Hounds. Gor Herds with shields should be enough to deal with most Empire frontlines as Greatswords tend to be pretty rare in this match up. The Butchers are of debatable usefulness since while they can survive arrow volleys and help with Knights the Empire has plenty of ways to deal with monsters, especially of the regenerating kind. It's fairly similar to the Bretonnia match up only the Knights are slightly weaker.		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Empire\| Empire]]''': Once again, dealing with Knights is going to be your big hurdle, though fortunately they aren't quite as big of a pain in the ass as the Bretonnian version. Of course, grabbing spear Ungors is a must to spread the field in Anti Large, so a few of those will certainly help you. Grab Centigor Great Weapons and Razogors to pin them down and you can get some charges off for some good damage. Poison Warhounds are also good for dealing with Outriders and Pistoliers since they can slow them down for Centigors to get on top of. If you can keep them safe, throwing axe Centigors can also help out a ton in dealing with Knights. Once the heavy cav is gone their skirmishers and artillery are free food for your Centigors and Hounds. Gor Herds with shields should be enough to deal with most Empire frontlines as Greatswords tend to be pretty rare in this match up. The Butchers are of debatable usefulness since while they can survive arrow volleys and help with Knights, the Empire has plenty of ways to deal with monsters, especially of the regenerating kind. It's fairly similar to the Bretonnia match up only the Knights are slightly weaker.

	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Grand Cathay\| Grand Cathay]]''':		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Grand Cathay\| Grand Cathay]]''':

	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Greenskins\| Greenskins]]''': Black Orcs aside Greenskins don't have much in terms of armor in their frontline so Chaos Spawn can help out a lot. Of course, with their plentiful skirmishing options they have ways of shooting Spawn to pieces. Centigors can thus be a good asset in chasing down Spider and Wolf cav and getting them away from your squishier units. You likely won't see Black Orcs due to your lack of armor and if you do, Razorgor support can help your Ungor and Gor frontline deal with them. Of course the biggest thing you will have to worry about here is all the big armoured monsters Orcs love to bring like Rogue Idols and Arachnarok Spiders. In this situation, throwing axe Centigors are your friends, as they can deal with the heavy armor without getting into melee with them. If you struggle with micro or ammo preservation you can also go with one or two Gorebulls with Minotaur support. They will have issues with ranged attacks and aren't as safe as throwing axe Centigors but if you can get them on ~~and~~ Idol or support an attack on a Spider they can rip a very sizable chunk out of it. Or, if you have The Silence and The Fury throw a Ghorgon at them and make sure the enemy skirmishers stay the hell away. With a bit of support the big cow should deal with any monsters the Orcs can throw at you.		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Greenskins\| Greenskins]]''': Black Orcs aside Greenskins don't have much in terms of armor in their frontline so Chaos Spawn can help out a lot. Of course, with their plentiful skirmishing options they have ways of shooting Spawn to pieces. Centigors can thus be a good asset in chasing down Spider and Wolf cav and getting them away from your squishier units. You likely won't see Black Orcs due to your lack of armor and if you do, Razorgor support can help your Ungor and Gor frontline deal with them. Of course the biggest thing you will have to worry about here is all the big armoured monsters Orcs love to bring like Rogue Idols and Arachnarok Spiders. In this situation, throwing axe Centigors are your friends, as they can deal with the heavy armor without getting into melee with them. If you struggle with micro or ammo preservation you can also go with one or two Gorebulls with Minotaur support. They will have issues with ranged attacks and aren't as safe as throwing axe Centigors but if you can get them on an Idol or support an attack on a Spider they can rip a very sizable chunk out of it. Or, if you have The Silence and The Fury throw a Ghorgon at them and make sure the enemy skirmishers stay the hell away. With a bit of support the big cow should deal with any monsters the Orcs can throw at you.

	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/High Elves\| High Elves]]''': Fairly similar to the Dark Elves in that in this match up they tend to rely on mobile skirmishing to get the job done. In that case, a Cygor can work wonders. It will be able to chuck rocks at the Reaver Archers and get some of that annoying archer cav off the field. In the same vein Raiders can unleash some volleys into Ellyrion Reaver Archers if they get too close. Centigors aren't that great here because High Elves have one thing that Dark Elves don't, reliable mid to high tier cav. As such some spears can be helpful to scare off any attempt at a cav charge while Gors can carve through most of the frontline that Elves tend to bring. Rangers can do some decent damage to your infantry and Silverin Guard can hold for a while, but that's about as elite as you can expect to see from High Elf infantry. Swordmasters and Phoenix Guard are too expensive and easy to counter. In case of a Dragon, get a ton of Razorgors and pin that bitch in place for Minotaurs to get on top of and tear to pieces. Centigors with Throwing Axes can also do some reliable damage if he's a bit more apprehensive about landing. Most smart High Elf players won't bring standard archers or bolt throwers but if they do they are free value for your mobile units.		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/High Elves\| High Elves]]''': Fairly similar to the Dark Elves in that in this match up they tend to rely on mobile skirmishing to get the job done. In that case, a Cygor can work wonders. It will be able to chuck rocks at the Reaver Archers and get some of that annoying archer cav off the field. In the same vein Raiders can unleash some volleys into Ellyrion Reaver Archers if they get too close. Centigors aren't that great here because High Elves have one thing that Dark Elves don't, reliable mid to high tier cav. As such some spears can be helpful to scare off any attempt at a cav charge while Gors can carve through most of the frontline that Elves tend to bring. Rangers can do some decent damage to your infantry and Silverin Guard can hold for a while, but that's about as elite as you can expect to see from High Elf infantry. Swordmasters and Phoenix Guard are too expensive and easy to counter. In case of a Dragon, get a ton of Razorgors and pin that bitch in place for Minotaurs to get on top of and tear to pieces. Centigors with Throwing Axes can also do some reliable damage if he's a bit more apprehensive about landing. Most smart High Elf players won't bring standard archers or bolt throwers but if they do they are free value for your mobile units.