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	*'''[[Hellcannon\|Hellcannon]]''': The classic artillery piece using the souls of the damned as homing ammunition. Not much to be said, just the WoC unit returned to their fellow countrydwarfs. Lacks the unique traits of the faction's other machines, and is the only crewed unit on the roster.		*'''[[Hellcannon\|Hellcannon]]''': The classic artillery piece using the souls of the damned as homing ammunition. Not much to be said, just the WoC unit returned to their fellow countrydwarfs. Lacks the unique traits of the faction's other machines, and is the only crewed unit on the roster.

	*'''[[Iron_Daemon_War_Engine\|Skullcracker]]''': The dedicated melee counterpart of the Iron Daemon. This thing used to have the same stats as the Iron Daemon only with no ranged attack but after it got buffed it's ~~nor~~ a scary remover of armoured infantry. Against factions like Dwarfs or Cathay it will allow you to pierce through the frontline to either get to the ranged unit or open the way for faster forces. Has very low melee defense though, so certainly not a fire and forget unit. Can also pull a Dreadquake Mortar		*'''[[Iron_Daemon_War_Engine\|Skullcracker]]''': The dedicated melee counterpart of the Iron Daemon. This thing used to have the same stats as the Iron Daemon only with no ranged attack but after it got buffed it's now a scary remover of armoured infantry. Against factions like Dwarfs or Cathay it will allow you to pierce through the frontline to either get to the ranged unit or open the way for faster forces. Has very low melee defense though, so certainly not a fire and forget unit. Can also pull a Dreadquake Mortar

	*'''[[Deathshrieker_Rocket_Launcher\|Death Shrieker Rocket Launcher]]''': A much killier version of the Empire's Helstorm and Cathay's Fire Rain. 420 range, can fire both anti-infantry airburst rockets and anti-large direct detonation rockets (Two direct hits of the latter will break Queen Bess). Important to note that the anti-large rocket will only ever hit a single entity - shooting it at anything that isn't a single or very low model count unit is hugely inefficient. This is the most specialised of the Chorf's artillery, it loses out in the anti-infantry department to all other options available and the single-fire rocket is lacking in accuracy. It does have an extremely high firing arc that lets it ignore most terrain in between itself and its target; this also makes it one of your better options for artillery duels as it can hide behind terrain and still fire at the enemy.		*'''[[Deathshrieker_Rocket_Launcher\|Death Shrieker Rocket Launcher]]''': A much killier version of the Empire's Helstorm and Cathay's Fire Rain. 420 range, can fire both anti-infantry airburst rockets and anti-large direct detonation rockets (Two direct hits of the latter will break Queen Bess). Important to note that the anti-large rocket will only ever hit a single entity - shooting it at anything that isn't a single or very low model count unit is hugely inefficient. This is the most specialised of the Chorf's artillery, it loses out in the anti-infantry department to all other options available and the single-fire rocket is lacking in accuracy. It does have an extremely high firing arc that lets it ignore most terrain in between itself and its target; this also makes it one of your better options for artillery duels as it can hide behind terrain and still fire at the enemy.

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	===Multiplayer Strategies===		===Multiplayer Strategies===
	The Chaos Dwarfs are pretty strong! With their mix of powerful artillery, single entities, elite infantry, and ranged, they have a flexible and powerful roster. They also have a very EXPENSIVE roster, and unlike campaign (where their best units are at least somewhat spammable once you accumulate enough resources), the price tag is going to matter in multiplayer. This all means you have to consider your matchups carefully if you want to win, even more so than other factions. Your chaff is some of the worst in the game, and you'll have to bring some in nearly every battle just to avoid being completely overrun. While it might sound odd given your slow moving infantry and artillery, the Dawi-Zharr shares some design philosophies with other rush factions in the game. They can put out terrifying damage very quickly both in melee and at range, but if your enemy can outlast your onslaught, the battle may turn. Also, seeing as this DLC released quite recently (at the time this was written anyway), expect some nerfs to come in for the tall-hatted Bablyonians. All that aside, here's how to make slaves of the other factions in the game:		The Chaos Dwarfs are pretty strong! With their mix of powerful artillery, single entities, elite infantry, and ranged, they have a flexible and powerful roster. They also have a very EXPENSIVE roster, and unlike campaign (where their best units are at least somewhat spammable once you accumulate enough resources), the price tag is going to matter in multiplayer. This all means you have to consider your matchups carefully if you want to win, even more so than other factions. Your chaff is some of the worst in the game, and you'll have to bring some in nearly every battle just to avoid being completely overrun. While it might sound odd given your slow moving infantry and artillery, the Dawi-Zharr shares some design philosophies with other rush factions in the game. They can put out terrifying damage very quickly both in melee and at range, but if your enemy can outlast your onslaught, the battle may turn. Also, seeing as this DLC released quite recently (at the time this was written anyway), expect some nerfs to come in for the tall-hatted Bablyonians. All that aside, here's how to make slaves of the other factions in the game:
	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Beastmen\| Beastmen]]''':
			*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Beastmen\| Beastmen]]''': This is actually a match up where you don't want to invest too much into ranged units. Beastmen have a lot of fast AP units that can dive on artillery and blunderbusses and turn them into pulled pork. Only invest in Hobgoblin archers if you want ranged, as you don't need much AP in this match up and you won't miss them if they die. Bull Centaurs with Great Weapons will be your friends here, as they have the Anti Large to pimp slap Centigors and deal with the big monsters that the Beastmen are inevitably going to bring. Standard Hobgoblins should make your frontline since they beat Ungors and can at least do some damage against Gors, while your more armoured infantry can hold the line for your cav and monsters. Look into the Immortals for some good low armor infantry clearly. Hilariously, throwing your own cow monster can really do some work, as the Fear and Terror will scare off most of the Beastmen chaff and infantry. As such I recommend a Sorcerer Prophet on a Bale Taurus for magical and giant cow support. Just don't throw it at a Ghorgon, that is a bull fight you are not winning.

	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Bretonnia\| Bretonnia]]''': This can be difficult for you. Bretonnia is usually a strong counter against missile-heavy factions due to their ability to swamp the field with cavalry. You'll never have to go too elite with your front line, a few Dwarf Warriors and a bunch of Labourers will do the trick against peasants. Blunderbusses will gun down cavalry but defending them will be hard. Fireglaives will hold up better if they get charged but they're going to be too expensive for you to bring a large number of them. Bretonnia can sometime struggle to kill large monsters, so consider bringing Bull Centaurs with great weapons for some strong AP/anti-large punch. If they can intercept the knights your ranged units will have time to do the work.		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Bretonnia\| Bretonnia]]''': This can be difficult for you. Bretonnia is usually a strong counter against missile-heavy factions due to their ability to swamp the field with cavalry. You'll never have to go too elite with your front line, a few Dwarf Warriors and a bunch of Labourers will do the trick against peasants. Blunderbusses will gun down cavalry but defending them will be hard. Fireglaives will hold up better if they get charged but they're going to be too expensive for you to bring a large number of them. Bretonnia can sometime struggle to kill large monsters, so consider bringing Bull Centaurs with great weapons for some strong AP/anti-large punch. If they can intercept the knights your ranged units will have time to do the work.

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Artillery & War Machines

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	*'''[[Hellcannon\|Hellcannon]]''': The classic artillery piece using the souls of the damned as homing ammunition. Not much to be said, just the WoC unit returned to their fellow countrydwarfs. Lacks the unique traits of the faction's other machines, and is the only crewed unit on the roster.		*'''[[Hellcannon\|Hellcannon]]''': The classic artillery piece using the souls of the damned as homing ammunition. Not much to be said, just the WoC unit returned to their fellow countrydwarfs. Lacks the unique traits of the faction's other machines, and is the only crewed unit on the roster.

	*'''[[Iron_Daemon_War_Engine\|Skullcracker]]''': The dedicated melee counterpart of the Iron Daemon ~~that for some reason has~~ the ~~exact~~ same stats as the Iron Daemon ~~minus the guns~~. ~~Despite this,~~ it ~~costs more than~~ the ~~Iron Daemon~~. ~~Lords do have redline skills that improve the Skullcracker's~~ melee ~~stats~~, ~~but this just isn't~~ a ~~thing in multiplayer battles. Probably needs some stat adjustments to differentiate it from its ranged brother~~.		*'''[[Iron_Daemon_War_Engine\|Skullcracker]]''': The dedicated melee counterpart of the Iron Daemon. This thing used to have the same stats as the Iron Daemon only with no ranged attack but after it got buffed it's nor a scary remover of armoured infantry. Against factions like Dwarfs or Cathay it will allow you to pierce through the frontline to either get to the ranged unit or open the way for faster forces. Has very low melee defense though, so certainly not a fire and forget unit. Can also pull a Dreadquake Mortar

	*'''[[Deathshrieker_Rocket_Launcher\|Death Shrieker Rocket Launcher]]''': A much killier version of the Empire's Helstorm and Cathay's Fire Rain. 420 range, can fire both anti-infantry airburst rockets and anti-large direct detonation rockets (Two direct hits of the latter will break Queen Bess). Important to note that the anti-large rocket will only ever hit a single entity - shooting it at anything that isn't a single or very low model count unit is hugely inefficient. This is the most specialised of the Chorf's artillery, it loses out in the anti-infantry department to all other options available and the single-fire rocket is lacking in accuracy. It does have an extremely high firing arc that lets it ignore most terrain in between itself and its target; this also makes it one of your better options for artillery duels as it can hide behind terrain and still fire at the enemy.		*'''[[Deathshrieker_Rocket_Launcher\|Death Shrieker Rocket Launcher]]''': A much killier version of the Empire's Helstorm and Cathay's Fire Rain. 420 range, can fire both anti-infantry airburst rockets and anti-large direct detonation rockets (Two direct hits of the latter will break Queen Bess). Important to note that the anti-large rocket will only ever hit a single entity - shooting it at anything that isn't a single or very low model count unit is hugely inefficient. This is the most specialised of the Chorf's artillery, it loses out in the anti-infantry department to all other options available and the single-fire rocket is lacking in accuracy. It does have an extremely high firing arc that lets it ignore most terrain in between itself and its target; this also makes it one of your better options for artillery duels as it can hide behind terrain and still fire at the enemy.

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	*'''[[Iron_Daemon_War_Engine\|Skullcracker]]''': The dedicated melee counterpart of the Iron Daemon that for some reason has the exact same stats as the Iron Daemon minus the guns. Despite this, it costs more than the Iron Daemon. Lords do have redline skills that improve the Skullcracker's melee stats, but this just isn't a thing in multiplayer battles. Probably needs some stat adjustments to differentiate it from its ranged brother.		*'''[[Iron_Daemon_War_Engine\|Skullcracker]]''': The dedicated melee counterpart of the Iron Daemon that for some reason has the exact same stats as the Iron Daemon minus the guns. Despite this, it costs more than the Iron Daemon. Lords do have redline skills that improve the Skullcracker's melee stats, but this just isn't a thing in multiplayer battles. Probably needs some stat adjustments to differentiate it from its ranged brother.

	*'''[[Deathshrieker_Rocket_Launcher\|Death Shrieker Rocket Launcher]]''': A much killier version of the Empire's Helstorm and Cathay's Fire Rain. 420 range, can fire both anti-infantry airburst rockets and anti-large direct detonation rockets (Two direct hits of the latter will break Queen Bess). Important to note that the anti-large rocket will only ever hit a single entity - shooting it at anything that isn't a single or very low model count unit is hugely inefficient. This is the most specialised of the Chorf's artillery, it loses out in the anti-infantry department to all other options available and the single-fire rocket is lacking in accuracy. It does have an extremely high firing arc that lets it ignore most terrain in between itself and its target.		*'''[[Deathshrieker_Rocket_Launcher\|Death Shrieker Rocket Launcher]]''': A much killier version of the Empire's Helstorm and Cathay's Fire Rain. 420 range, can fire both anti-infantry airburst rockets and anti-large direct detonation rockets (Two direct hits of the latter will break Queen Bess). Important to note that the anti-large rocket will only ever hit a single entity - shooting it at anything that isn't a single or very low model count unit is hugely inefficient. This is the most specialised of the Chorf's artillery, it loses out in the anti-infantry department to all other options available and the single-fire rocket is lacking in accuracy. It does have an extremely high firing arc that lets it ignore most terrain in between itself and its target; this also makes it one of your better options for artillery duels as it can hide behind terrain and still fire at the enemy.

	*'''[[Dreadquake_Mortar\|Dreadquake Mortar]]''': CHUNKY 380 range mortar. Single hit will cut a lot of unit's model count in half, but the slow speed of the projectile can make it a little situational. The damage number doesn't count the AoE earth tremor effect that persists for a few seconds after the shot lands. While highly inaccurate, a direct hit will decimate all but the most heavily armoured units and it will stop anything in its tracks with its -60% speed debuff. Be careful though, as the Dreadquake doesn't discriminate, and a poorly aimed shot will decimate your frontline as quickly as it'll decimate the enemy's. But that's what your greenskin units are for, ay? Can be taken by itself, or can be pulled into battle by an Iron Daemon or a Skullcracker, for all your war train needs - benefited further by it's 360° firing.		*'''[[Dreadquake_Mortar\|Dreadquake Mortar]]''': CHUNKY 380 range mortar. Single hit will cut a lot of unit's model count in half, but the slow speed of the projectile can make it a little situational. The damage number doesn't count the AoE earth tremor effect that persists for a few seconds after the shot lands. While highly inaccurate, a direct hit will decimate all but the most heavily armoured units and it will stop anything in its tracks with its -60% speed debuff. Be careful though, as the Dreadquake doesn't discriminate, and a poorly aimed shot will decimate your frontline as quickly as it'll decimate the enemy's. But that's what your greenskin units are for, ay? Can be taken by itself, or can be pulled into battle by an Iron Daemon or a Skullcracker, for all your war train needs - benefited further by it's 360° firing.

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	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Ogre Kingdoms\| Ogre Kingdoms]]''': This one can be surprisingly difficult. Since almost every Ogre unit is a monster your big AoE spells and your mostly anti-infantry artillery isn't as useful. The Lore of Death is a good choice for dealing more direct damage to Ogres with Spirit Leech or Fate of Bjuna. If you bring the Lore of Hashut you can leave a lot of spells on the table so long as you keep Ash Storm, allowing you to pile on the fire weakness so your other units can take advantage of it. Blunderbusses are a good choice here, as they usually are against monsters and cavalry, though you'll have a hard time protecting them. Wolf Riders with fire arrows can also complement Ash Storm. Your best artillery choice is probably the Deathshrieker, as it's anti-large firing mode can accumulate a lot of value if the enemy doesn't shut it down. Bull Centaurs with Great Weapons are your best blocker options, having both the mass and the anti-large bonus necessary to stop a unit of ogres from pushing into your gunlines. However, bull Centaurs aren't cheap and Ogre Bulls are. Watch out for Ogre shooting as well, it's no joke.		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Ogre Kingdoms\| Ogre Kingdoms]]''': This one can be surprisingly difficult. Since almost every Ogre unit is a monster your big AoE spells and your mostly anti-infantry artillery isn't as useful. The Lore of Death is a good choice for dealing more direct damage to Ogres with Spirit Leech or Fate of Bjuna. If you bring the Lore of Hashut you can leave a lot of spells on the table so long as you keep Ash Storm, allowing you to pile on the fire weakness so your other units can take advantage of it. Blunderbusses are a good choice here, as they usually are against monsters and cavalry, though you'll have a hard time protecting them. Wolf Riders with fire arrows can also complement Ash Storm. Your best artillery choice is probably the Deathshrieker, as it's anti-large firing mode can accumulate a lot of value if the enemy doesn't shut it down. Bull Centaurs with Great Weapons are your best blocker options, having both the mass and the anti-large bonus necessary to stop a unit of ogres from pushing into your gunlines. However, bull Centaurs aren't cheap and Ogre Bulls are. Watch out for Ogre shooting as well, it's no joke.

	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Skaven\| Skaven]]''':		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Skaven\| Skaven]]''': You are a hard counter against Skaven in a lot of ways. Masses of Skaven infantry can be tied up with Labourers and will be devastated by your artillery, as will Weapon Teams. Skaven monsters are low armor meaning both your Bull Centaurs with GW and your blunderbusses will make short work of them. The biggest danger the Skaven can offer in return is their own artillery but if you rout off half their army your Wolf Raiders will have unimpeded access to the back lines.

	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Slaanesh\| Slaanesh]]''':		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Slaanesh\| Slaanesh]]''':

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	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Nurgle\| Nurgle]]''':		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Nurgle\| Nurgle]]''':

	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Ogre Kingdoms\| Ogre Kingdoms]]''':		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Ogre Kingdoms\| Ogre Kingdoms]]''': This one can be surprisingly difficult. Since almost every Ogre unit is a monster your big AoE spells and your mostly anti-infantry artillery isn't as useful. The Lore of Death is a good choice for dealing more direct damage to Ogres with Spirit Leech or Fate of Bjuna. If you bring the Lore of Hashut you can leave a lot of spells on the table so long as you keep Ash Storm, allowing you to pile on the fire weakness so your other units can take advantage of it. Blunderbusses are a good choice here, as they usually are against monsters and cavalry, though you'll have a hard time protecting them. Wolf Riders with fire arrows can also complement Ash Storm. Your best artillery choice is probably the Deathshrieker, as it's anti-large firing mode can accumulate a lot of value if the enemy doesn't shut it down. Bull Centaurs with Great Weapons are your best blocker options, having both the mass and the anti-large bonus necessary to stop a unit of ogres from pushing into your gunlines. However, bull Centaurs aren't cheap and Ogre Bulls are. Watch out for Ogre shooting as well, it's no joke.

	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Skaven\| Skaven]]''':		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Skaven\| Skaven]]''':

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	*'''Chaos Dwarf Blunderbusses''': THE standout member of the present roster, a frontline of Blunderbusses can on it's own rout many armies, and with charge defense vs large even the stuff that reaches them will have a hard time getting through them. Comparable melee stats to Dwarf Warriors, and their ranged weapon does an ungodly amount of damage to anything that enters it's 90 range. Prepare for the possibility of this unit getting nerfed like Ogre Ironbelchers.		*'''Chaos Dwarf Blunderbusses''': THE standout member of the present roster, a frontline of Blunderbusses can on it's own rout many armies, and with charge defense vs large even the stuff that reaches them will have a hard time getting through them. Comparable melee stats to Dwarf Warriors, and their ranged weapon does an ungodly amount of damage to anything that enters it's 90 range. Prepare for the possibility of this unit getting nerfed like Ogre Ironbelchers.
	**'''The Granite Guard''': RoR Infernal Guard with blunderbusses and AP great weapons. They have closer stats to the Fireglaives than the Blunderbusses (as well as a closer pricetag), but they have a few unique tricks. Firstly, they innate Suppression with their ranged attacks, and if you sit them still for 25 seconds they'll gain +40% range, +15% missile resistance and Expert Charge Defence. Note they're still blunderbusses, even with +40% range you only reach 126 range, but these rock-hard dwarfs can form a solid anchor for your blunderbuss line. Blunderbusses are already lethal, and the -30% speed they inflict on anything they shoot will make it hard for melee units to reach them, and anything that does reach them will have a whole load of AP to deal with. However, they're still short ranged and they will be shot to pieces by anything they can't shoot back.		**'''The Granite Guard''': RoR Infernal Guard with blunderbusses and AP great weapons. They have closer stats to the Fireglaives than the Blunderbusses (as well as a closer pricetag), but they have a few unique tricks. Firstly, they have innate Suppression with their ranged attacks, and if you sit them still for 25 seconds they'll gain +40% range, +15% missile resistance and Expert Charge Defence. Note they're still blunderbusses, even with +40% range you only reach 126 range, but these rock-hard dwarfs can form a solid anchor for your blunderbuss line. Blunderbusses are already lethal, and the -30% speed they inflict on anything they shoot will make it hard for melee units to reach them, and anything that does reach them will have a whole load of AP to deal with. However, they're still short ranged and they will be shot to pieces by anything they can't shoot back.
	*'''Infernal Guard Fireglaives''': Tier 3 hybrid infantry, with a 145 range repeating rifle. Very capable melee combatants to boot, one of only two Chaos Dwarf units with anti-large. Will lose bad in a 1-to-1 shootout against Blunderbusses but are better at outshooting longer-ranged foes your Blunderbusses can't reach.		*'''Infernal Guard Fireglaives''': Tier 3 hybrid infantry, with a 145 range repeating rifle. Very capable melee combatants to boot, one of only two Chaos Dwarf units with anti-large. Will lose bad in a 1-to-1 shootout against Blunderbusses but are better at outshooting longer-ranged foes your Blunderbusses can't reach.

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	*'''[[Hellcannon\|Hellcannon]]''': The classic artillery piece using the souls of the damned as homing ammunition. Not much to be said, just the WoC unit returned to their fellow countrydwarfs. Lacks the unique traits of the faction's other machines, and is the only crewed unit on the roster.		*'''[[Hellcannon\|Hellcannon]]''': The classic artillery piece using the souls of the damned as homing ammunition. Not much to be said, just the WoC unit returned to their fellow countrydwarfs. Lacks the unique traits of the faction's other machines, and is the only crewed unit on the roster.

	*'''[[Iron_Daemon_War_Engine\|Skullcracker]]''': The dedicated melee counterpart of the Iron Daemon. This thing used to have the same stats as the Iron Daemon only with no ranged attack but after it got buffed it's ~~nor~~ a scary remover of armoured infantry. Against factions like Dwarfs or Cathay it will allow you to pierce through the frontline to either get to the ranged unit or open the way for faster forces. Has very low melee defense though, so certainly not a fire and forget unit. Can also pull a Dreadquake Mortar		*'''[[Iron_Daemon_War_Engine\|Skullcracker]]''': The dedicated melee counterpart of the Iron Daemon. This thing used to have the same stats as the Iron Daemon only with no ranged attack but after it got buffed it's now a scary remover of armoured infantry. Against factions like Dwarfs or Cathay it will allow you to pierce through the frontline to either get to the ranged unit or open the way for faster forces. Has very low melee defense though, so certainly not a fire and forget unit. Can also pull a Dreadquake Mortar

	*'''[[Deathshrieker_Rocket_Launcher\|Death Shrieker Rocket Launcher]]''': A much killier version of the Empire's Helstorm and Cathay's Fire Rain. 420 range, can fire both anti-infantry airburst rockets and anti-large direct detonation rockets (Two direct hits of the latter will break Queen Bess). Important to note that the anti-large rocket will only ever hit a single entity - shooting it at anything that isn't a single or very low model count unit is hugely inefficient. This is the most specialised of the Chorf's artillery, it loses out in the anti-infantry department to all other options available and the single-fire rocket is lacking in accuracy. It does have an extremely high firing arc that lets it ignore most terrain in between itself and its target; this also makes it one of your better options for artillery duels as it can hide behind terrain and still fire at the enemy.		*'''[[Deathshrieker_Rocket_Launcher\|Death Shrieker Rocket Launcher]]''': A much killier version of the Empire's Helstorm and Cathay's Fire Rain. 420 range, can fire both anti-infantry airburst rockets and anti-large direct detonation rockets (Two direct hits of the latter will break Queen Bess). Important to note that the anti-large rocket will only ever hit a single entity - shooting it at anything that isn't a single or very low model count unit is hugely inefficient. This is the most specialised of the Chorf's artillery, it loses out in the anti-infantry department to all other options available and the single-fire rocket is lacking in accuracy. It does have an extremely high firing arc that lets it ignore most terrain in between itself and its target; this also makes it one of your better options for artillery duels as it can hide behind terrain and still fire at the enemy.

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	*'''[[Hellcannon\|Hellcannon]]''': The classic artillery piece using the souls of the damned as homing ammunition. Not much to be said, just the WoC unit returned to their fellow countrydwarfs. Lacks the unique traits of the faction's other machines, and is the only crewed unit on the roster.		*'''[[Hellcannon\|Hellcannon]]''': The classic artillery piece using the souls of the damned as homing ammunition. Not much to be said, just the WoC unit returned to their fellow countrydwarfs. Lacks the unique traits of the faction's other machines, and is the only crewed unit on the roster.

	*'''[[Iron_Daemon_War_Engine\|Skullcracker]]''': The dedicated melee counterpart of the Iron Daemon ~~that for some reason has~~ the ~~exact~~ same stats as the Iron Daemon ~~minus the guns~~. ~~Despite this,~~ it ~~costs more than~~ the ~~Iron Daemon~~. ~~Lords do have redline skills that improve the Skullcracker's~~ melee ~~stats~~, ~~but this just isn't~~ a ~~thing in multiplayer battles. Probably needs some stat adjustments to differentiate it from its ranged brother~~.		*'''[[Iron_Daemon_War_Engine\|Skullcracker]]''': The dedicated melee counterpart of the Iron Daemon. This thing used to have the same stats as the Iron Daemon only with no ranged attack but after it got buffed it's nor a scary remover of armoured infantry. Against factions like Dwarfs or Cathay it will allow you to pierce through the frontline to either get to the ranged unit or open the way for faster forces. Has very low melee defense though, so certainly not a fire and forget unit. Can also pull a Dreadquake Mortar

	*'''[[Deathshrieker_Rocket_Launcher\|Death Shrieker Rocket Launcher]]''': A much killier version of the Empire's Helstorm and Cathay's Fire Rain. 420 range, can fire both anti-infantry airburst rockets and anti-large direct detonation rockets (Two direct hits of the latter will break Queen Bess). Important to note that the anti-large rocket will only ever hit a single entity - shooting it at anything that isn't a single or very low model count unit is hugely inefficient. This is the most specialised of the Chorf's artillery, it loses out in the anti-infantry department to all other options available and the single-fire rocket is lacking in accuracy. It does have an extremely high firing arc that lets it ignore most terrain in between itself and its target; this also makes it one of your better options for artillery duels as it can hide behind terrain and still fire at the enemy.		*'''[[Deathshrieker_Rocket_Launcher\|Death Shrieker Rocket Launcher]]''': A much killier version of the Empire's Helstorm and Cathay's Fire Rain. 420 range, can fire both anti-infantry airburst rockets and anti-large direct detonation rockets (Two direct hits of the latter will break Queen Bess). Important to note that the anti-large rocket will only ever hit a single entity - shooting it at anything that isn't a single or very low model count unit is hugely inefficient. This is the most specialised of the Chorf's artillery, it loses out in the anti-infantry department to all other options available and the single-fire rocket is lacking in accuracy. It does have an extremely high firing arc that lets it ignore most terrain in between itself and its target; this also makes it one of your better options for artillery duels as it can hide behind terrain and still fire at the enemy.

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	*'''[[Iron_Daemon_War_Engine\|Skullcracker]]''': The dedicated melee counterpart of the Iron Daemon that for some reason has the exact same stats as the Iron Daemon minus the guns. Despite this, it costs more than the Iron Daemon. Lords do have redline skills that improve the Skullcracker's melee stats, but this just isn't a thing in multiplayer battles. Probably needs some stat adjustments to differentiate it from its ranged brother.		*'''[[Iron_Daemon_War_Engine\|Skullcracker]]''': The dedicated melee counterpart of the Iron Daemon that for some reason has the exact same stats as the Iron Daemon minus the guns. Despite this, it costs more than the Iron Daemon. Lords do have redline skills that improve the Skullcracker's melee stats, but this just isn't a thing in multiplayer battles. Probably needs some stat adjustments to differentiate it from its ranged brother.

	*'''[[Deathshrieker_Rocket_Launcher\|Death Shrieker Rocket Launcher]]''': A much killier version of the Empire's Helstorm and Cathay's Fire Rain. 420 range, can fire both anti-infantry airburst rockets and anti-large direct detonation rockets (Two direct hits of the latter will break Queen Bess). Important to note that the anti-large rocket will only ever hit a single entity - shooting it at anything that isn't a single or very low model count unit is hugely inefficient. This is the most specialised of the Chorf's artillery, it loses out in the anti-infantry department to all other options available and the single-fire rocket is lacking in accuracy. It does have an extremely high firing arc that lets it ignore most terrain in between itself and its target.		*'''[[Deathshrieker_Rocket_Launcher\|Death Shrieker Rocket Launcher]]''': A much killier version of the Empire's Helstorm and Cathay's Fire Rain. 420 range, can fire both anti-infantry airburst rockets and anti-large direct detonation rockets (Two direct hits of the latter will break Queen Bess). Important to note that the anti-large rocket will only ever hit a single entity - shooting it at anything that isn't a single or very low model count unit is hugely inefficient. This is the most specialised of the Chorf's artillery, it loses out in the anti-infantry department to all other options available and the single-fire rocket is lacking in accuracy. It does have an extremely high firing arc that lets it ignore most terrain in between itself and its target; this also makes it one of your better options for artillery duels as it can hide behind terrain and still fire at the enemy.

	*'''[[Dreadquake_Mortar\|Dreadquake Mortar]]''': CHUNKY 380 range mortar. Single hit will cut a lot of unit's model count in half, but the slow speed of the projectile can make it a little situational. The damage number doesn't count the AoE earth tremor effect that persists for a few seconds after the shot lands. While highly inaccurate, a direct hit will decimate all but the most heavily armoured units and it will stop anything in its tracks with its -60% speed debuff. Be careful though, as the Dreadquake doesn't discriminate, and a poorly aimed shot will decimate your frontline as quickly as it'll decimate the enemy's. But that's what your greenskin units are for, ay? Can be taken by itself, or can be pulled into battle by an Iron Daemon or a Skullcracker, for all your war train needs - benefited further by it's 360° firing.		*'''[[Dreadquake_Mortar\|Dreadquake Mortar]]''': CHUNKY 380 range mortar. Single hit will cut a lot of unit's model count in half, but the slow speed of the projectile can make it a little situational. The damage number doesn't count the AoE earth tremor effect that persists for a few seconds after the shot lands. While highly inaccurate, a direct hit will decimate all but the most heavily armoured units and it will stop anything in its tracks with its -60% speed debuff. Be careful though, as the Dreadquake doesn't discriminate, and a poorly aimed shot will decimate your frontline as quickly as it'll decimate the enemy's. But that's what your greenskin units are for, ay? Can be taken by itself, or can be pulled into battle by an Iron Daemon or a Skullcracker, for all your war train needs - benefited further by it's 360° firing.

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	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Ogre Kingdoms\| Ogre Kingdoms]]''': This one can be surprisingly difficult. Since almost every Ogre unit is a monster your big AoE spells and your mostly anti-infantry artillery isn't as useful. The Lore of Death is a good choice for dealing more direct damage to Ogres with Spirit Leech or Fate of Bjuna. If you bring the Lore of Hashut you can leave a lot of spells on the table so long as you keep Ash Storm, allowing you to pile on the fire weakness so your other units can take advantage of it. Blunderbusses are a good choice here, as they usually are against monsters and cavalry, though you'll have a hard time protecting them. Wolf Riders with fire arrows can also complement Ash Storm. Your best artillery choice is probably the Deathshrieker, as it's anti-large firing mode can accumulate a lot of value if the enemy doesn't shut it down. Bull Centaurs with Great Weapons are your best blocker options, having both the mass and the anti-large bonus necessary to stop a unit of ogres from pushing into your gunlines. However, bull Centaurs aren't cheap and Ogre Bulls are. Watch out for Ogre shooting as well, it's no joke.		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Ogre Kingdoms\| Ogre Kingdoms]]''': This one can be surprisingly difficult. Since almost every Ogre unit is a monster your big AoE spells and your mostly anti-infantry artillery isn't as useful. The Lore of Death is a good choice for dealing more direct damage to Ogres with Spirit Leech or Fate of Bjuna. If you bring the Lore of Hashut you can leave a lot of spells on the table so long as you keep Ash Storm, allowing you to pile on the fire weakness so your other units can take advantage of it. Blunderbusses are a good choice here, as they usually are against monsters and cavalry, though you'll have a hard time protecting them. Wolf Riders with fire arrows can also complement Ash Storm. Your best artillery choice is probably the Deathshrieker, as it's anti-large firing mode can accumulate a lot of value if the enemy doesn't shut it down. Bull Centaurs with Great Weapons are your best blocker options, having both the mass and the anti-large bonus necessary to stop a unit of ogres from pushing into your gunlines. However, bull Centaurs aren't cheap and Ogre Bulls are. Watch out for Ogre shooting as well, it's no joke.

	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Skaven\| Skaven]]''':		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Skaven\| Skaven]]''': You are a hard counter against Skaven in a lot of ways. Masses of Skaven infantry can be tied up with Labourers and will be devastated by your artillery, as will Weapon Teams. Skaven monsters are low armor meaning both your Bull Centaurs with GW and your blunderbusses will make short work of them. The biggest danger the Skaven can offer in return is their own artillery but if you rout off half their army your Wolf Raiders will have unimpeded access to the back lines.

	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Slaanesh\| Slaanesh]]''':		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Slaanesh\| Slaanesh]]''':

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	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Nurgle\| Nurgle]]''':		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Nurgle\| Nurgle]]''':

	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Ogre Kingdoms\| Ogre Kingdoms]]''':		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Ogre Kingdoms\| Ogre Kingdoms]]''': This one can be surprisingly difficult. Since almost every Ogre unit is a monster your big AoE spells and your mostly anti-infantry artillery isn't as useful. The Lore of Death is a good choice for dealing more direct damage to Ogres with Spirit Leech or Fate of Bjuna. If you bring the Lore of Hashut you can leave a lot of spells on the table so long as you keep Ash Storm, allowing you to pile on the fire weakness so your other units can take advantage of it. Blunderbusses are a good choice here, as they usually are against monsters and cavalry, though you'll have a hard time protecting them. Wolf Riders with fire arrows can also complement Ash Storm. Your best artillery choice is probably the Deathshrieker, as it's anti-large firing mode can accumulate a lot of value if the enemy doesn't shut it down. Bull Centaurs with Great Weapons are your best blocker options, having both the mass and the anti-large bonus necessary to stop a unit of ogres from pushing into your gunlines. However, bull Centaurs aren't cheap and Ogre Bulls are. Watch out for Ogre shooting as well, it's no joke.

	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Skaven\| Skaven]]''':		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Skaven\| Skaven]]''':