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	*'''Fire''': A hell of a lot of fire damage, from dragons, RoRs, mages and mages who RIDE DRAGONS, you will laugh at anything weak to fire.		*'''Fire''': A hell of a lot of fire damage, from dragons, RoRs, mages and mages who RIDE DRAGONS, you will laugh at anything weak to fire.
	*'''Air Superiority''': With Dragons, Phoenixes, and Eagles it is not hard to gain control of the skies if you decide you want to invest into it.		*'''Air Superiority''': With Dragons, Phoenixes, and Eagles it is not hard to gain control of the skies if you decide you want to invest into it.
	*'''~~Infantry Specialization~~''': ~~A lot of their units~~ are ~~specialized to go after certain targets~~, ~~and~~ some of ~~them are~~ the ~~best at it~~. ~~Rangers are great chaff cleaners, Swordmaster win against any non RoR infantry unit one on one~~ and ~~Phoenix Guard are expert monster killers~~.		*'''Speed''': You are a very speedy faction, especially with your cavalry speed buff you have the some of the fastest cavalry in the game, second only to Bretonnia. Wrapping around flanks and diving backlines isn't much of a problem for the Asur.

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	'''Influence''': Probably the most important mechanic the High Elves have, and the one that connects back to all of their other ones, is '''Influence'''. The Elves are political animals and as such need some kind of leverage or favors in order to make headway in anything they want to do. Influence is a special currency you get for completing missions, building certain buildings, doing hero actions and through random events on the campaign map. This offers you two major ways to spend it, one being stronger lords and the other being Intrigue at the Court. The first way revolves on how you recruit lords and heroes, as each one has a certain amount of influence you have to spend in order to recruit them. Lords and Heroes that cost 0 influence have shitty traits that hurt your campaign, ones that cost a relatively low amount have more standard traits, while the most expensive have straight up OP ones. For instance, there's a 60 influence trait for Archmages called Incendiary, which gives a +100% weapon strength, +100 charge bonus and flaming attacks. This may sounds pointless on a mage character you want to keep out of melee until you realize she can ride a fucking dragon at some point. This can get you some ungoldy powerful lords if you build up influence.		'''Influence''': Probably the most important mechanic the High Elves have, and the one that connects back to all of their other ones, is '''Influence'''. The Elves are political animals and as such need some kind of leverage or favors in order to make headway in anything they want to do. Influence is a special currency you get for completing missions, building certain buildings, doing hero actions and through random events on the campaign map. This offers you two major ways to spend it, one being stronger lords and the other being Intrigue at the Court. The first way revolves on how you recruit lords and heroes, as each one has a certain amount of influence you have to spend in order to recruit them. Lords and Heroes that cost 0 influence have shitty traits that hurt your campaign, ones that cost a relatively low amount have more standard traits, while the most expensive have straight up OP ones. For instance, there's a 60 influence trait for Archmages called Incendiary, which gives a +100% weapon strength, +100 charge bonus and flaming attacks. This may sounds pointless on a mage character you want to keep out of melee until you realize she can ride a fucking dragon at some point. This can get you some ungoldy powerful lords if you build up influence.

	The other thing you use Influence for is '''Intrigue at Court''', which further reflects the ~~politcalness~~ of Elves. With this, you can improve or destroy relations between any two factions on the campaign map that you know. It's similar to what the Empire has, only while they can only do it between two Imperial factions, you can do it between anyone. This means you can puppeteer the map in anyway you like. Want to declare war on a faction but they are allies with someone you have a Non Aggression Pact with? Pump some influence and now they hate eachother. Want to confederate that one stubborn faction on Ulthuan? Keep spending Influence and you'll win them over eventually. You can manipulate diplomacy to start wars and alliances between whoever you want. 90% of the time you'll be using this to get other High Elves to confederate with you easier.		The other thing you use Influence for is '''Intrigue at Court''', which further reflects the political nature of the Elves. With this, you can improve or destroy relations between any two factions on the campaign map that you know. It's similar to what the Empire has, only while they can only do it between two Imperial factions, you can do it between anyone. This means you can puppeteer the map in anyway you like. Want to declare war on a faction but they are allies with someone you have a Non Aggression Pact with? Pump some influence and now they hate eachother. Want to confederate that one stubborn faction on Ulthuan? Keep spending Influence and you'll win them over eventually. You can manipulate diplomacy to start wars and alliances between whoever you want. 90% of the time you'll be using this to get other High Elves to confederate with you easier.
	*The best time to ask for a Confederation is after your target has suffered a military defeat. If you see them lose two armies in the same battle, they are more likely to agree to Confederate.		*The best time to ask for a Confederation is after your target has suffered a military defeat. If you see them lose two armies in the same battle, they are more likely to agree to Confederate.
	**You can also confederate with High Elves by dealing with their most dangerous threat, which is now visible to you in the diplomacy screen. By winning victories against the faction that's currently curbstomping them, you can win enough goodwill for them to confederate with their armies intact.		**You can also confederate with High Elves by dealing with their most dangerous threat, which is now visible to you in the diplomacy screen. By winning victories against the faction that's currently curbstomping them, you can win enough goodwill for them to confederate with their armies intact.
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	'''Buildings''' you'll want in every major city:		'''Buildings''' you'll want in every major city:
	*'''~~Ampitheater~~''': Your public order building, just make it to make sure rebels don't spring up anywhere. It's also makes money and isn't too bad at it on top of that.		*'''Amphitheater''': Your public order building, just make it to make sure rebels don't spring up anywhere. It's also makes money and isn't too bad at it on top of that.
	*'''Tower of Mages''': Gets you more Mages and Loremasters, along with more research rate and access to more stages of research.		*'''Tower of Mages''': Gets you more Mages and Loremasters, along with more research rate and access to more stages of research.
	*'''Blessed Grove''': Gets you more Handmaidens and Sisters of Avelorn. A fun agent and one of your best units.		*'''Blessed Grove''': Gets you more Handmaidens and Sisters of Avelorn. A fun agent and one of your best units.

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	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Warriors of Chaos\| Warriors of Chaos]]''': This is a tough one for you. Shaggoths beat Dragons one on one and are cheaper, making it a bit unfair for you. You still want to bring a star dragon to burn shaggoths down with breath attacks, and a couple swordmasters can help burn through that heavily armoured infantry. You can use Teclis on the pidgeon to help the dragon in melee or Alarielle to help keep it alive. Aside from that, grab basic spears and archers and just try to take down those damn shaggoths.		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Warriors of Chaos\| Warriors of Chaos]]''': This is a tough one for you. Shaggoths beat Dragons one on one and are cheaper, making it a bit unfair for you. You still want to bring a star dragon to burn shaggoths down with breath attacks, and a couple swordmasters can help burn through that heavily armoured infantry. You can use Teclis on the pidgeon to help the dragon in melee or Alarielle to help keep it alive. Aside from that, grab basic spears and archers and just try to take down those damn shaggoths.

	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Dark Elves\| Dark Elves]]''': A true lore rivalry matchup, which is actually pretty balanced. Remember, the Dark Elves share many of your same strengths and weaknesses, but the longer the battle goes on, the rougher it will be for you. Murderous Prowess, while important in other matchups, can be absolutely game-changing here since your Martial Prowess disappears as your units get more damaged, which kind of forces you into a quasi-rush game. Scourgerunners are the bane of your existence, as they can kill anything you bring to the table. Bolt throwers are the best way to deal with them, and if you can do that Dragon Princes are free to run rampage across the Druchii. You will never win an infantry grind or a skirmish fight here, so leave your expensive infantry options and units like Ellyrian Reaver ~~A'rchers~~ and Tiranoc Chariots at home. However, you do have the advantage in Heavy Cav, range and magic variety, so make sure you use it! Also, a Star Dragon is always good to help deal with any big beasties that might get thrown your way, but the ~~druchii~~ have plentiful sources of anti-large so you need to be on point with your micro if you bring one. Bring a couple basic archers to shoot down their skirmish cav and short range before they get a chance to rip you apart.		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Dark Elves\| Dark Elves]]''': A true lore rivalry matchup, which is actually pretty balanced. Remember, the Dark Elves share many of your same strengths and weaknesses, but the longer the battle goes on, the rougher it will be for you. Murderous Prowess, while important in other matchups, can be absolutely game-changing here since your Martial Prowess disappears as your units get more damaged, which kind of forces you into a quasi-rush game. Scourgerunners are the bane of your existence, as they can kill anything you bring to the table. Bolt throwers are the best way to deal with them, and if you can do that, Dragon Princes are free to run rampage across the Druchii. You will never win an infantry grind or a skirmish fight here, so leave your expensive infantry options and units like Ellyrian Reaver Archers and Tiranoc Chariots at home. However, you do have the advantage in Heavy Cav, range and magic variety, so make sure you use it! Also, a Star Dragon is always good to help deal with any big beasties that might get thrown your way, but the Druchii have plentiful sources of anti-large so you need to be on point with your micro if you bring one. Bring a couple basic archers to shoot down their skirmish cav and short range before they get a chance to rip you apart.

	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Dwarfs\| Dwarfs]]''': Is Chrace your favorite kingdom on Ulthuan? Well, this ~~match up~~ is a perfect chance to rep the Lion Boys! White Lions are amazing here, with AP and missile resistance at a decently affordable price. Bring a few archers or eagles to deal with Gyrocopters and reavers or war lions to deal with artillery and you can score a decent amount of value. And of course, no build against the Dwarfs is complete without AP Chariots, and White Lion Chariots can destroy Dwarfs. Any Dwarf player who picks the stunties against you either think they are way better than you or are new and don't understand ~~match ups~~ yet. (Seriously, this is so one sided it makes you wonder how the High Elves lost the War of the Beard.)		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Dwarfs\| Dwarfs]]''': Is Chrace your favorite kingdom on Ulthuan? Well, this matchup is a perfect chance to rep the Lion Boys! White Lions are amazing here, with AP and missile resistance at a decently affordable price. Bring a few archers or eagles to deal with Gyrocopters and reavers or war lions to deal with artillery and you can score a decent amount of value. And of course, no build against the Dwarfs is complete without AP Chariots, and White Lion Chariots can destroy Dwarfs. Any Dwarf player who picks the stunties against you either think they are way better than you or are new and don't understand matchups yet. (Seriously, this is so one sided it makes you wonder how the High Elves lost the War of the Beard.)

	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Empire\| Empire]]''': The big question in this match up is going to be "how the fuck do you deal with knights?" Demigryphs will eat Dragon Princes 1 on 1 so similar to Bretonnia, don't rely too much on your heavy cav. One tactic that has become popular is to bring a single Lore of Metal caster with Teclis, net them, cast plague of rust and shoot them down with your archers. Phoenix Guard can also be useful here since they can tear up state troops and knights with fairly little problem, but they have to worry about guns. In that case, archers can be used to shoot their guns down or Reavers can be used to run them over. The infantry fight shouldn't be an issue unless they brings Greatswords (which are rare) it's the mobile aspects and [[Gunpowder (Warhammer Fantasy)\|gunpowder]] that will end up giving you headaches.		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Empire\| Empire]]''': The big question in this match up is going to be "how the fuck do you deal with knights?" Demigryphs will eat Dragon Princes 1 on 1 so similar to Bretonnia, don't rely too much on your heavy cav. One tactic that has become popular is to bring a single Lore of Metal caster with Teclis, net them, cast plague of rust and shoot them down with your archers. Phoenix Guard can also be useful here since they can tear up state troops and knights with fairly little problem, but they have to worry about guns. In that case, archers can be used to shoot their guns down or Reavers can be used to run them over. The infantry fight shouldn't be an issue unless they brings Greatswords (which are rare) it's the mobile aspects and [[Gunpowder (Warhammer Fantasy)\|gunpowder]] that will end up giving you headaches.

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	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Beastmen\| Beastmen]]''': You got enough range to poke down their lack of armor, the question is can you protect it all against their flanking and vanguard shenanigans? Kite builds tend to work best here. Get a relatively cheap frontline (trust me, with Minotaurs and Chaos Spawn you do not want to lean on infantry to win) to hold them in place so your Reaver Archers can begin their poke. Make sure to get some cheaper melee cav to screen for the horse archers, preferable Silver Helms. You generally aren't going to see the Ghorgon or the Jabberslythe in this match up since both are very prone to getting shot by missiles. Tyrion is a surprising solid pick, as Sunfang can melt any Beastmen infantry but Bestigors and their mutants have such a hard time catching and killing him.		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Beastmen\| Beastmen]]''': You got enough range to poke down their lack of armor, the question is can you protect it all against their flanking and vanguard shenanigans? Kite builds tend to work best here. Get a relatively cheap frontline (trust me, with Minotaurs and Chaos Spawn you do not want to lean on infantry to win) to hold them in place so your Reaver Archers can begin their poke. Make sure to get some cheaper melee cav to screen for the horse archers, preferable Silver Helms. You generally aren't going to see the Ghorgon or the Jabberslythe in this match up since both are very prone to getting shot by missiles. Tyrion is a surprising solid pick, as Sunfang can melt any Beastmen infantry but Bestigors and their mutants have such a hard time catching and killing him.

	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Bretonnia\| Bretonnia]]''': This has historically always been one of your hardest match ups. Don't even think of relying on cavalry, Grail Knights will fuck up Dragon Princes and run amok. Silverin Guard act as a good deterrent against heavy cav and can ~~beast~~ most Bret infantry aside from Foot Squires, and Lothern Sea Guard can at least do something against knights if they are charged. Teclis with nets and enfeebling foe will also play big for you to stop and debuff heavy cav. Use bolt throwers to take out cav models and finally, the Star Dragon can carry if well supported, as Bretonnia tends to struggle with big armoured monsters.		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Bretonnia\| Bretonnia]]''': This has historically always been one of your hardest match ups. Don't even think of relying on cavalry, Grail Knights will fuck up Dragon Princes and run amok. Silverin Guard act as a good deterrent against heavy cav and can beat most Bret infantry aside from Foot Squires, and Lothern Sea Guard can at least do something against knights if they are charged. Teclis with nets and enfeebling foe will also play big for you to stop and debuff heavy cav. Use bolt throwers to take out cav models and finally, the Star Dragon can carry if well supported, as Bretonnia tends to struggle with big armoured monsters.

	*'''[[Total_War_Warhammer/Tactics/Chaos_Dwarves\| Chaos Dwarfs]]''':		*'''[[Total_War_Warhammer/Tactics/Chaos_Dwarves\| Chaos Dwarfs]]''':

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	If you're playing High Elves, you already think you're better than everyone else, and you want to prove it! Fortunately for you, you have a very well rounded roster that can be used in a myriad of ways to take out a variety of opponents. You have the obvious strengths in your ranged, but you are also strong in terms of cavalry, monsters, and healing. However, the high cost of your army means that you will be outnumbered in many of your match ups, and AP is something you need to pay a premium for. And while you're the tankiest of the Elven factions, that really isn't saying much. That said if used well you can cause havoc. Here is how you can assure domination against the inferior races! Keep in mind this is assuming you bought both High Elf DLCs because if you haven't you may struggle a bit. Yeah, multiplayer can be pay to win, sorry.		If you're playing High Elves, you already think you're better than everyone else, and you want to prove it! Fortunately for you, you have a very well rounded roster that can be used in a myriad of ways to take out a variety of opponents. You have the obvious strengths in your ranged, but you are also strong in terms of cavalry, monsters, and healing. However, the high cost of your army means that you will be outnumbered in many of your match ups, and AP is something you need to pay a premium for. And while you're the tankiest of the Elven factions, that really isn't saying much. That said if used well you can cause havoc. Here is how you can assure domination against the inferior races! Keep in mind this is assuming you bought both High Elf DLCs because if you haven't you may struggle a bit. Yeah, multiplayer can be pay to win, sorry.

	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Beastmen\| Beastmen]]''': You got enough range to poke down their lack of armor, the question is can you protect it all against their flanking and vanguard shenanigans? Kite builds tend to work best here. Get a relatively cheap frontline (trust me, with Minotaurs and Chaos Spawn you do not want to lean on infantry to win) to hold them in place so your Reaver Archers can begin their poke. Make sure to get some cheaper melee cav to screen for the horse archers, preferable Silver Helms. You generally aren't going to see the Ghorgon or the Jabberslythe in this match up since both are very prone to getting shot by missiles. Tyrion is a surprising solid pick, as Sunfang can melt any Beastmen infantry but Bestigors and ~~they~~ mutants have such a hard time catching and killing him.		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Beastmen\| Beastmen]]''': You got enough range to poke down their lack of armor, the question is can you protect it all against their flanking and vanguard shenanigans? Kite builds tend to work best here. Get a relatively cheap frontline (trust me, with Minotaurs and Chaos Spawn you do not want to lean on infantry to win) to hold them in place so your Reaver Archers can begin their poke. Make sure to get some cheaper melee cav to screen for the horse archers, preferable Silver Helms. You generally aren't going to see the Ghorgon or the Jabberslythe in this match up since both are very prone to getting shot by missiles. Tyrion is a surprising solid pick, as Sunfang can melt any Beastmen infantry but Bestigors and their mutants have such a hard time catching and killing him.

	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Bretonnia\| Bretonnia]]''': This has historically always been one of your hardest match ups. Don't even think of relying on cavalry, Grail Knights will fuck up Dragon Princes and run amok. Silverin Guard act as a good deterrent against heavy cav and can beast most Bret infantry aside from Foot Squires, and Lothern Sea Guard can at least do something against knights if they are charged. Teclis with nets and enfeebling foe will also play big for you to stop and debuff heavy cav. Use bolt throwers to take out cav models and finally, the Star Dragon can carry if well supported, as Bretonnia tends to struggle with big armoured monsters.		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Bretonnia\| Bretonnia]]''': This has historically always been one of your hardest match ups. Don't even think of relying on cavalry, Grail Knights will fuck up Dragon Princes and run amok. Silverin Guard act as a good deterrent against heavy cav and can beast most Bret infantry aside from Foot Squires, and Lothern Sea Guard can at least do something against knights if they are charged. Teclis with nets and enfeebling foe will also play big for you to stop and debuff heavy cav. Use bolt throwers to take out cav models and finally, the Star Dragon can carry if well supported, as Bretonnia tends to struggle with big armoured monsters.

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	===Monsters===		===Monsters===
	*'''Great Eagle''': This giant bird is a relatively cheap flying unit that can provide some decent mage hunting and is a fairly accessible source of fear. The best thing it offers is its speed, and can be used to get from different points of the battle when needed. Granted, these guys are squishy, and will lose to most monster units. Honestly work best as mounts for mages you want to keep out of the fight, acting as a distraction to missile units (being able to easily dodge most ranged assaults) or to escort tattered, keep enemy units off the map.		*'''Great Eagle''': This giant bird is a relatively cheap flying unit that can provide some decent mage hunting and is a fairly accessible source of fear. The best thing it offers is its speed, and can be used to get from different points of the battle when needed. Granted, these guys are squishy, and will lose to most monster units. Honestly work best as mounts for mages you want to keep out of the fight, acting as a distraction to missile units (being able to easily dodge most ranged assaults) or to escort tattered, keep enemy units off the map.
	*'''War Lions of Chrace (DLC)''': War hounds on steroids, these ~~thing~~ can provide a lot of killing power. They are fast, have decent stats and have armour piercing anti infantry damage. This equates to a lot of dead skirmishers, but also dead mid tier infantry if they are able to support infantry. A missile resistance will protect them on the way in ~~form~~ archers, and they have strider to help them ignore penalties from trees. Plus, fear is never a bad thing. Pretty solid choice all around, and serve as great flankers and artillery hunters.		*'''War Lions of Chrace (DLC)''': War hounds on steroids, these things can provide a lot of killing power. They are fast, have decent stats and have armour piercing anti infantry damage. This equates to a lot of dead skirmishers, but also dead mid tier infantry if they are able to support infantry. Their missile resistance will protect them on the way in from archers, and they have strider to help them ignore penalties from trees. Plus, fear is never a bad thing. Pretty solid choice all around, and serve as great flankers and artillery hunters.
	**'''Rahagra's Pride (RoR, DLC)''': These mighty kitties come with a Mighty Roar ability, lowering leadership and speed. If they attack from the flank, they can pop this to potentially cause a mass route and make sure ideal targets don't escape. Great for low leadership armies like Skaven or Beastmen.		**'''Rahagra's Pride (RoR, DLC)''': These mighty kitties come with a Mighty Roar ability, lowering leadership and speed. If they attack from the flank, they can pop this to potentially cause a mass route and make sure ideal targets don't escape. Great for low leadership armies like Skaven or Beastmen.
	*'''Flamespyre Phoenix''': The first of three magic birds. This fire one has fear and terror, good stats all around, and is mainly focused on chaff clearing. All Phoenixes have an ability where they get a ward save when the magic pool is above 50%. It has ten uses of a bombing type attack where it drops down fire bombs on the enemy to blow them to pieces. Not great against armour, but can deal with blobs pretty well. Also has Fiery Rebirth; if it gets too low it has a chance to either die outright or to come back to life with significantly more HP, which in the right scenario can turn a fight. You don't want to rely on this to win though, as it may not happen. Still a decent monster.		*'''Flamespyre Phoenix''': The first of the three magic birds. This fire one has fear and terror, good stats all around, and is mainly focused on chaff clearing. All Phoenixes have an ability where they get a ward save when the magic pool is above 50%. It has ten uses of a bombing type attack where it drops down fire bombs on the enemy to blow them to pieces. Not great against armour, but can deal with blobs pretty well. Also has Fiery Rebirth; if it gets too low it has a chance to either die outright or to come back to life with significantly more HP, which in the right scenario can turn a fight. You don't want to rely on this to win though, as it may not happen. Still a decent monster.
	*'''Frostheart Phoenix''': The icy bird, gets more armour from all the ice crystals clinging to its feathers. Trades the fire bombs and rebirth ability from the previous phoenix in exchange for better overall stats and a good debuff ability. Blizzard Aura causes a decrease to overall enemy weapon damage and melee attack. Elven spearlines will appreciate this, as it will allow them to hold out for even longer. Granted, losing the chance to be reborn sucks but still considered an overall better pick than the fire bird.		*'''Frostheart Phoenix''': The icy bird, gets more armour from all the ice crystals clinging to its feathers. Trades the fire bombs and rebirth ability from the previous phoenix in exchange for better overall stats and a good debuff ability. Blizzard Aura causes a decrease to overall enemy weapon damage and melee attack. Elven spearlines will appreciate this, as it will allow them to hold out for even longer. Granted, losing the chance to be reborn sucks but still considered an overall better pick than the fire bird.
	*'''Arcane Phoenix (DLC)''': The last bird and the best of them all. Comes with even better stats, regains Fiery Rebirth, and gains Emberstorm. This allows it to face plant into the ground and create a stationary vortex that burns anything around it. Great for clearing our low armour, it can demolish blobs of infantry. It's an expensive little chicken (seriously, it costs more than a Moon Dragon) but one that certainly wins fights in the right scenarios.		*'''Arcane Phoenix (DLC)''': The last bird and the best of them all. Comes with even better stats, regains Fiery Rebirth, and gains Emberstorm. This allows it to face plant into the ground and create a stationary vortex that burns anything around it. Great for clearing our low armour, it can demolish blobs of infantry. It's an expensive little chicken (seriously, it costs more than a Moon Dragon) but one that certainly wins fights in the right scenarios.
	**'''Omen of Asuryan (DLC, RoR)''': This birb does everything listed above and also gives Immune to Psych in an ~~AOE~~. Not the best thing for a race that doesn't really suffer from leadership problems but still nice to have.		**'''Omen of Asuryan (DLC, RoR)''': This birb does everything listed above and also gives Immune to Psych in an AoE. Not the best thing for a race that doesn't really suffer from leadership problems but still nice to have.
	*'''Dragons''': With 3 goddam choices I figured we'd make a general listing then split them off. Dragons have crazy ass stats but aren't something you should just throw around willy nilly. They can be fragile and will often lose to elite anti-large units and monsters. It's the breath attacks that make these guys scary, and each dragon's breath serves a different purpose. A well placed breath can win you the game, and a bad one can blow it away. BRING HEALING TO KEEP THEM IN THE FIGHT!!!!!		*'''Dragons''': With 3 goddam choices I figured we'd make a general listing then split them off. Dragons have crazy ass stats but aren't something you should just throw around willy nilly. They can be fragile and will often lose to elite anti-large units and monsters. It's the breath attacks that make these guys scary, and each dragon's breath serves a different purpose. A well placed breath can win you the game, and a bad one can blow it away. BRING HEALING TO KEEP THEM IN THE FIGHT!!!!!
	**'''Sun Dragon''': The weakest and cheapest of the dragons. Their breath has a greater spread but deals less AP damage. Will destroy light-armor infantry blobs.		**'''Sun Dragon''': The weakest and cheapest of the dragons. Their breath has a greater spread but deals less AP damage. Will destroy light-armor infantry blobs.

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	*'''Great Eagle''': This giant bird is a relatively cheap flying unit that can provide some decent mage hunting and is a fairly accessible source of fear. The best thing it offers is its speed, and can be used to get from different points of the battle when needed. Granted, these guys are squishy, and will lose to most monster units. Honestly work best as mounts for mages you want to keep out of the fight, acting as a distraction to missile units (being able to easily dodge most ranged assaults) or to escort tattered, ~~key~~ enemy units off the map.		*'''Great Eagle''': This giant bird is a relatively cheap flying unit that can provide some decent mage hunting and is a fairly accessible source of fear. The best thing it offers is its speed, and can be used to get from different points of the battle when needed. Granted, these guys are squishy, and will lose to most monster units. Honestly work best as mounts for mages you want to keep out of the fight, acting as a distraction to missile units (being able to easily dodge most ranged assaults) or to escort tattered, keep enemy units off the map.
	*'''War Lions of Chrace (DLC)''': War hounds on steroids, these thing can provide a lot of killing power. They are fast, have decent stats and have armour piercing anti infantry damage. This equates to a lot of dead skirmishers, but also dead mid tier infantry if they are able to support infantry. A missile resistance will protect them on the way in form archers, and they have strider to help them ignore penalties from trees. Plus, fear is never a bad thing. Pretty solid choice all around, and serve as great flankers and artillery hunters.		*'''War Lions of Chrace (DLC)''': War hounds on steroids, these thing can provide a lot of killing power. They are fast, have decent stats and have armour piercing anti infantry damage. This equates to a lot of dead skirmishers, but also dead mid tier infantry if they are able to support infantry. A missile resistance will protect them on the way in form archers, and they have strider to help them ignore penalties from trees. Plus, fear is never a bad thing. Pretty solid choice all around, and serve as great flankers and artillery hunters.
	**'''Rahagra's Pride (RoR, DLC)''': These mighty kitties come with a Mighty Roar ability, lowering leadership and speed. If they attack from the flank, they can pop this to potentially cause a mass route and make sure ideal targets don't escape. Great for low leadership armies like Skaven or Beastmen.		**'''Rahagra's Pride (RoR, DLC)''': These mighty kitties come with a Mighty Roar ability, lowering leadership and speed. If they attack from the flank, they can pop this to potentially cause a mass route and make sure ideal targets don't escape. Great for low leadership armies like Skaven or Beastmen.

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	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Warriors of Chaos\| Warriors of Chaos]]''': This is a tough one for you. Shaggoths beat Dragons one on one and are cheaper, making it a bit unfair for you. You still want to bring a star dragon to burn shaggoths down with breath attacks, and a couple swordmasters can help burn through that heavily armoured infantry. You can use Teclis on the pidgeon to help the dragon in melee or Alarielle to help keep it alive. Aside from that, grab basic spears and archers and just try to take down those damn shaggoths.		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Warriors of Chaos\| Warriors of Chaos]]''': This is a tough one for you. Shaggoths beat Dragons one on one and are cheaper, making it a bit unfair for you. You still want to bring a star dragon to burn shaggoths down with breath attacks, and a couple swordmasters can help burn through that heavily armoured infantry. You can use Teclis on the pidgeon to help the dragon in melee or Alarielle to help keep it alive. Aside from that, grab basic spears and archers and just try to take down those damn shaggoths.

	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Dark Elves\| Dark Elves]]''': A true lore rivalry matchup, which is actually pretty balanced. Remember, the Dark Elves share many of your same strengths and weaknesses, but the longer the battle goes on, the rougher it will be for you. Murderous Prowess, while important in other matchups, can be absolutely game-changing here since your Martial Prowess disappears as your units get more damaged, which kind of forces you into a quasi-rush game. Scourgerunners are the bane of your existence, as they can kill anything you bring to the table. Bolt throwers are the best way to deal with them, and if you can do that Dragon Princes are free to run rampage across the Druchii. You will never win an infantry grind or a skirmish fight here, so leave your expensive infantry options and units like Ellyrian Reaver ~~A'rchers~~ and Tiranoc Chariots at home. However, you do have the advantage in Heavy Cav, range and magic variety, so make sure you use it! Also, a Star Dragon is always good to help deal with any big beasties that might get thrown your way, but the ~~druchii~~ have plentiful sources of anti-large so you need to be on point with your micro if you bring one. Bring a couple basic archers to shoot down their skirmish cav and short range before they get a chance to rip you apart.		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Dark Elves\| Dark Elves]]''': A true lore rivalry matchup, which is actually pretty balanced. Remember, the Dark Elves share many of your same strengths and weaknesses, but the longer the battle goes on, the rougher it will be for you. Murderous Prowess, while important in other matchups, can be absolutely game-changing here since your Martial Prowess disappears as your units get more damaged, which kind of forces you into a quasi-rush game. Scourgerunners are the bane of your existence, as they can kill anything you bring to the table. Bolt throwers are the best way to deal with them, and if you can do that, Dragon Princes are free to run rampage across the Druchii. You will never win an infantry grind or a skirmish fight here, so leave your expensive infantry options and units like Ellyrian Reaver Archers and Tiranoc Chariots at home. However, you do have the advantage in Heavy Cav, range and magic variety, so make sure you use it! Also, a Star Dragon is always good to help deal with any big beasties that might get thrown your way, but the Druchii have plentiful sources of anti-large so you need to be on point with your micro if you bring one. Bring a couple basic archers to shoot down their skirmish cav and short range before they get a chance to rip you apart.

	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Dwarfs\| Dwarfs]]''': Is Chrace your favorite kingdom on Ulthuan? Well, this ~~match up~~ is a perfect chance to rep the Lion Boys! White Lions are amazing here, with AP and missile resistance at a decently affordable price. Bring a few archers or eagles to deal with Gyrocopters and reavers or war lions to deal with artillery and you can score a decent amount of value. And of course, no build against the Dwarfs is complete without AP Chariots, and White Lion Chariots can destroy Dwarfs. Any Dwarf player who picks the stunties against you either think they are way better than you or are new and don't understand ~~match ups~~ yet. (Seriously, this is so one sided it makes you wonder how the High Elves lost the War of the Beard.)		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Dwarfs\| Dwarfs]]''': Is Chrace your favorite kingdom on Ulthuan? Well, this matchup is a perfect chance to rep the Lion Boys! White Lions are amazing here, with AP and missile resistance at a decently affordable price. Bring a few archers or eagles to deal with Gyrocopters and reavers or war lions to deal with artillery and you can score a decent amount of value. And of course, no build against the Dwarfs is complete without AP Chariots, and White Lion Chariots can destroy Dwarfs. Any Dwarf player who picks the stunties against you either think they are way better than you or are new and don't understand matchups yet. (Seriously, this is so one sided it makes you wonder how the High Elves lost the War of the Beard.)

	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Empire\| Empire]]''': The big question in this match up is going to be "how the fuck do you deal with knights?" Demigryphs will eat Dragon Princes 1 on 1 so similar to Bretonnia, don't rely too much on your heavy cav. One tactic that has become popular is to bring a single Lore of Metal caster with Teclis, net them, cast plague of rust and shoot them down with your archers. Phoenix Guard can also be useful here since they can tear up state troops and knights with fairly little problem, but they have to worry about guns. In that case, archers can be used to shoot their guns down or Reavers can be used to run them over. The infantry fight shouldn't be an issue unless they brings Greatswords (which are rare) it's the mobile aspects and [[Gunpowder (Warhammer Fantasy)\|gunpowder]] that will end up giving you headaches.		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Empire\| Empire]]''': The big question in this match up is going to be "how the fuck do you deal with knights?" Demigryphs will eat Dragon Princes 1 on 1 so similar to Bretonnia, don't rely too much on your heavy cav. One tactic that has become popular is to bring a single Lore of Metal caster with Teclis, net them, cast plague of rust and shoot them down with your archers. Phoenix Guard can also be useful here since they can tear up state troops and knights with fairly little problem, but they have to worry about guns. In that case, archers can be used to shoot their guns down or Reavers can be used to run them over. The infantry fight shouldn't be an issue unless they brings Greatswords (which are rare) it's the mobile aspects and [[Gunpowder (Warhammer Fantasy)\|gunpowder]] that will end up giving you headaches.

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	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Beastmen\| Beastmen]]''': You got enough range to poke down their lack of armor, the question is can you protect it all against their flanking and vanguard shenanigans? Kite builds tend to work best here. Get a relatively cheap frontline (trust me, with Minotaurs and Chaos Spawn you do not want to lean on infantry to win) to hold them in place so your Reaver Archers can begin their poke. Make sure to get some cheaper melee cav to screen for the horse archers, preferable Silver Helms. You generally aren't going to see the Ghorgon or the Jabberslythe in this match up since both are very prone to getting shot by missiles. Tyrion is a surprising solid pick, as Sunfang can melt any Beastmen infantry but Bestigors and their mutants have such a hard time catching and killing him.		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Beastmen\| Beastmen]]''': You got enough range to poke down their lack of armor, the question is can you protect it all against their flanking and vanguard shenanigans? Kite builds tend to work best here. Get a relatively cheap frontline (trust me, with Minotaurs and Chaos Spawn you do not want to lean on infantry to win) to hold them in place so your Reaver Archers can begin their poke. Make sure to get some cheaper melee cav to screen for the horse archers, preferable Silver Helms. You generally aren't going to see the Ghorgon or the Jabberslythe in this match up since both are very prone to getting shot by missiles. Tyrion is a surprising solid pick, as Sunfang can melt any Beastmen infantry but Bestigors and their mutants have such a hard time catching and killing him.

	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Bretonnia\| Bretonnia]]''': This has historically always been one of your hardest match ups. Don't even think of relying on cavalry, Grail Knights will fuck up Dragon Princes and run amok. Silverin Guard act as a good deterrent against heavy cav and can ~~beast~~ most Bret infantry aside from Foot Squires, and Lothern Sea Guard can at least do something against knights if they are charged. Teclis with nets and enfeebling foe will also play big for you to stop and debuff heavy cav. Use bolt throwers to take out cav models and finally, the Star Dragon can carry if well supported, as Bretonnia tends to struggle with big armoured monsters.		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Bretonnia\| Bretonnia]]''': This has historically always been one of your hardest match ups. Don't even think of relying on cavalry, Grail Knights will fuck up Dragon Princes and run amok. Silverin Guard act as a good deterrent against heavy cav and can beat most Bret infantry aside from Foot Squires, and Lothern Sea Guard can at least do something against knights if they are charged. Teclis with nets and enfeebling foe will also play big for you to stop and debuff heavy cav. Use bolt throwers to take out cav models and finally, the Star Dragon can carry if well supported, as Bretonnia tends to struggle with big armoured monsters.

	*'''[[Total_War_Warhammer/Tactics/Chaos_Dwarves\| Chaos Dwarfs]]''':		*'''[[Total_War_Warhammer/Tactics/Chaos_Dwarves\| Chaos Dwarfs]]''':