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Kroq-Gar

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	*'''Scar-Veteran Doomstack Simulator''': Kroq-Gar probably got the biggest buff/change transitioning from Mortal Empires to Immortal Empires among ~~lizardmen~~. The first notable perk is that his faction has been ''heavily'' re-tooled to focus on Saurus; specifically ~~Old-Bloods~~ and Scar-Veterans. Faction wide, Saurus Spawning pools now grant additional perks beyond the ability to recruit Saurus units and, at 4th tier, will grant an additional +2 recruit rank for Scar-Veterans. This stacks with both the Humble trait and Star Chambers (which now, unfortunately, can only be constructed in province capitals), letting you ''very'' quickly start cranking out high-ranking Scar-Veterans on Carnosaurs. If that weren't enough, all Scar-Veterans and ~~Old-Bloods~~ gain a 30% boost to experience gain and get an extra 1% Weapon Strength per rank they have (capping out at a [[/d/\|+50% weapon strength buff at max level]]). The Last Defenders did lose their universal -10% upkeep discounts, but it's slightly made up for since ~~Old-Bloods~~ gain a -15% Upkeep reduction for their banner armies, encouraging you to run them as Lords for your more expensive doomstacks. Though by no means should you forsake taking a Slann here and there.		*'''Scar-Veteran Doomstack Simulator''': Kroq-Gar probably got the biggest buff/change transitioning from Mortal Empires to Immortal Empires among the Lizardmen. The first notable perk is that his faction has been ''heavily'' re-tooled to focus on Saurus; specifically Oldbloods and Scar-Veterans. Faction wide, Saurus Spawning pools now grant additional perks beyond the ability to recruit Saurus units and, at 4th tier, will grant an additional +2 recruit rank for Scar-Veterans. This stacks with both the Humble trait and Star Chambers (which now, unfortunately, can only be constructed in province capitals), letting you ''very'' quickly start cranking out high-ranking Scar-Veterans on Carnosaurs. If that weren't enough, all Scar-Veterans and Oldbloods gain a 30% boost to experience gain and get an extra 1% Weapon Strength per rank they have (capping out at a [[/d/\|+50% weapon strength buff at max level]]). The Last Defenders did lose their universal -10% upkeep discounts, but it's slightly made up for since Oldbloods gain a -15% Upkeep reduction for their banner armies, encouraging you to run them as Lords for your more expensive doomstacks. Though by no means should you forsake taking a Slann here and there.

	:Kroq-Gar himself downgraded some of his personal buffs, comparatively. Gone are the leadership and armor buffs for Stegadons, Bastiladons, Terradons and Carnosaurs. Instead, Saurus and Cold-One Riders gain a 25% experience gain buff and his former -50% upkeep reduction for Saurus and Cold One units has simply dropped down to the fairly standard -15% universal upkeep reduction all his ~~Old-Blood~~ units get. Much more versatile than before, though.		:Kroq-Gar himself downgraded some of his personal buffs, comparatively. Gone are the leadership and armor buffs for Stegadons, Bastiladons, Terradons and Carnosaurs. Instead, Saurus and Cold One Riders gain a 25% experience gain buff and his former -50% upkeep reduction for Saurus and Cold One units has simply dropped down to the fairly standard -15% universal upkeep reduction all his Oldblood units get. Much more versatile than before, though.

	:Speaking of the scaly lizard, he starts on the eastern coast of the Southlands, smack dab above Teclis (for now). Teclis makes for a decent defensive ally if you so wish and a valuable buffer against the southern Chaos forces such as Kairos. Almost invariably, you're going to be forced upwards in your wars; smaller Skaven infest the Kingdom of Beasts province and Khalida is often prone to declaring war against you once you work your way north. Immediately following Khalida, you'll likely draw the ire of Clan Mors and be drawn straight into the Karak Eight-Peaks race, oddly enough.		:Speaking of the scaly lizard, he starts on the eastern coast of the Southlands, smack dab above Teclis (for now). Teclis makes for a decent defensive ally if you so wish and a valuable buffer against the southern Chaos forces such as Kairos. Almost invariably, you're going to be forced upwards in your wars; smaller Skaven infest the Kingdom of Beasts province and Khalida is often prone to declaring war against you once you work your way north. Immediately following Khalida, you'll likely draw the ire of Clan Mors and be drawn straight into the Karak Eight-Peaks race, oddly enough.

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Immortal Empires

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	It's here, the biggest Total War map to date, spanning effectively the entire Old World and then some (only a few less than fleshed out regions such as Nippon are excluded). The Lustriabowl has for the most part calmed down, a majority of the non-lizardmen factions have set sail for greener pastures and with the inclusion of the entire southern half of the continent, what factions that remain now have some breathing room. Having said that, this season, it's time for the Southlands Thunderdome to kick off! While Gor-Rok and Tehenhauin can breathe a sigh of relief, Kroq-Gar and Tiktaq'to are now sandwiched in with factions from damn near every walk of (un)life; Vampire Counts, Tomb Kings, Daemons of Khorne and Tzeentch, Dwarfs, Orks, Skaven, High Elves, Empire, Bretonnians, the list goes ON.		It's here, the biggest Total War map to date, spanning effectively the entire Old World and then some (only a few less than fleshed out regions such as Nippon are excluded). The Lustriabowl has for the most part calmed down, a majority of the non-lizardmen factions have set sail for greener pastures and with the inclusion of the entire southern half of the continent, what factions that remain now have some breathing room. Having said that, this season, it's time for the Southlands Thunderdome to kick off! While Gor-Rok and Tehenhauin can breathe a sigh of relief, Kroq-Gar and Tiktaq'to are now sandwiched in with factions from damn near every walk of (un)life; Vampire Counts, Tomb Kings, Daemons of Khorne and Tzeentch, Dwarfs, Orks, Skaven, High Elves, Empire, Bretonnians, the list goes ON.

	If you're playing as Gor-Rok, Tehenhauin or even Mazdamundi, don't get too comfortable in Lustria however. Dark Elves in the form of Rakarth have set up shop on the western coast of Lustria, Clan ~~Pestilins~~ has borderline free reign of the south-eastern coastline, Markus Wulfhart continues his colonial ways in northern Lustria alongside his new-found Bretonnian buddy Alberic. The Vampire Coast is, in fact, still infested with the Vampire Coast and a few rogue factions of daemons muck about in central Lustria. Though it won't be ''quite'' as chaotic as before, given the extra breathing room, you'll still need to remain vigilant if you want to kick all the warm-bloods out of your homeland.		If you're playing as Gor-Rok, Tehenhauin or even Mazdamundi, don't get too comfortable in Lustria however. Dark Elves in the form of Rakarth have set up shop on the western coast of Lustria, Clan Pestilens has borderline free reign of the south-eastern coastline, Markus Wulfhart continues his colonial ways in northern Lustria alongside his new-found Bretonnian buddy Alberic. The Vampire Coast is, in fact, still infested with the Vampire Coast and a few rogue factions of daemons muck about in central Lustria. Though it won't be ''quite'' as chaotic as before, given the extra breathing room, you'll still need to remain vigilant if you want to kick all the warm-bloods out of your homeland.

	One notable change is the Rite of Awakening; it no longer costs any gold to use, so once you unlock it, there's ''no'' reason to not immediately use it to spawn in a Slann for your recruitment pool. Enact that shit every single time it pops off cooldown.		One notable change is the Rite of Awakening; it no longer costs any gold to use, so once you unlock it, there's ''no'' reason to not immediately use it to spawn in a Slann for your recruitment pool. Enact that shit every single time it pops off cooldown.

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Nakai

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	* Formerly the most wayward of the Children of the Old Ones, Nakai's start in Albion effectively tries to throw you against the forces of Norsca for a majority of your early-mid game. After some research, he's admittedly geared for it; natural Snow and Chaos Attrition immunity courtesy of your unique tech tree grants Nakai a lot more flexibility for engaging the northern Chaos factions and despite not controlling any of the settlements he captures, the Defenders of the Great Plan generate a ''ton'' of Untainted corruption. Though this won't really benefit you personally much, your allies (or fellow players on Co-Op campaigns) will find traversing the north considerably less threatening. Having said that, due to being a Horde faction, you're perfectly free to just abandon Albion entirely and find new stomping grounds to start your Campaign in.		* Formerly the most wayward of the Children of the Old Ones, Nakai's start in Albion effectively tries to throw you against the forces of Norsca for a majority of your early-mid game. After some research, he's admittedly geared for it; natural Snow and Chaos Attrition immunity courtesy of your unique tech tree grants Nakai a lot more flexibility for engaging the northern Chaos factions and despite not controlling any of the settlements he captures, the Defenders of the Great Plan generate a ''ton'' of Untainted corruption. Though this won't really benefit you personally much, your allies (or fellow players on Co-Op campaigns) will find traversing the north considerably less threatening. Having said that, due to being a Horde faction, you're perfectly free to just abandon Albion entirely and find new stomping grounds to start your Campaign in.
	In ~~immortal empires~~ he's even more lost starting in fucking ~~cathay~~. But he does get a proper ~~stegadon~~ as a starting unit so that's a big bonus		In Immortal Empires he's even more lost, starting in fucking Cathay. But he does get a proper Stegadon as a starting unit so that's a big bonus

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	*'''The world is your Itza''' - Despite being solidly in the Lustria-Bowl and being a Saurus-dedicated, exclusive footlord, Gor-Rok is basically guaranteed ~~supremecy~~ due to beginning the game with Lord Kroak ''and'' starting with Itza as his capitol. Tehenhauin will often end up confederating with you pretty early and without much fuss due to the various Lustria-Bowl contenders beating the piss out of him. You'll likely want to focus your initial expansion down south to clear out the Skaven and secure the various resources found on the southeast coastline before pushing north to clear out the Vampires. Once you control the majority of Lustria, you effectively have free reign to set your sights anywhere you feel like conquering.		*'''The world is your Itza''' - Despite being solidly in the Lustria-Bowl and being a Saurus-dedicated, exclusive footlord, Gor-Rok is basically guaranteed supremacy due to beginning the game with Lord Kroak ''and'' starting with Itza as his capitol. Tehenhauin will often end up confederating with you pretty early and without much fuss due to the various Lustria-Bowl contenders beating the piss out of him. You'll likely want to focus your initial expansion down south to clear out the Skaven and secure the various resources found on the southeast coastline before pushing north to clear out the Vampires. Once you control the majority of Lustria, you effectively have free reign to set your sights anywhere you feel like conquering.

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Campaign Strategies

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	===Campaign Strategies===		===Campaign Strategies===
	In the campaign, be it the Vortex or Mortal Empires, the biggest concern ~~lizardmen~~ have is obtaining a consistent source of income; ~~skinks~~ will only carry you so far in the early game and sacking settlements will only provide a quick short-term boost to your treasury. Your economy generally lacks bonuses, especially compared to other Warhammer 2 factions, though you won't be as constrained as, say, Wood Elves or Beastmen, and expanding the Geomantic Web and getting upkeep reduction skills will go a long, long way. As such, if you aren't playing as Hexoatl it is imperative to get the city as soon as possible for its landmark, which reduces upkeep on the ~~lizardmen~~'s most powerful units. Most other landmark buildings add some bonus to several unit chains, such as additional damage for ~~skinks~~ or more defense for ~~saurus warriors~~.		In the campaign, be it the Vortex or Mortal Empires, the biggest concern Lizardmen have is obtaining a consistent source of income; Skinks will only carry you so far in the early game and sacking settlements will only provide a quick short-term boost to your treasury. Your economy generally lacks bonuses, especially compared to other Warhammer 2 factions, though you won't be as constrained as, say, Wood Elves or Beastmen, and expanding the Geomantic Web and getting upkeep reduction skills will go a long, long way. As such, if you aren't playing as Hexoatl, it is imperative to get the city as soon as possible for its landmark, which reduces upkeep on the Lizardmen's most powerful units. Most other landmark buildings add some bonus to several unit chains, such as additional damage for Skinks or more defense for Saurus Warriors.

	Lizardmen research is locked behind building completion; many important technologies cannot be accessed until a specific, often mediocre in mid-early game, building is built in one of your settlements. Generally speaking, it is better to unlock research to start improving your weaker units rather than focus on your economy in the early- to mid-game. You simply won't be generating much revenue from economy buildings until the Geomantic Web is expanded and upkeep is reduced. However, that also means you need to be smart about what buildings to construct in your limited settlements; depending on how much money you have coming in through battles and sacking, it may be worth it to construct something just to unlock research and then destroy it to make room for something you genuinely need.		Lizardmen research is locked behind building completion; many important technologies cannot be accessed until a specific, often mediocre in mid-early game, building is built in one of your settlements. Generally speaking, it is better to unlock research to start improving your weaker units rather than focus on your economy in the early- to mid-game. You simply won't be generating much revenue from economy buildings until the Geomantic Web is expanded and upkeep is reduced. However, that also means you need to be smart about what buildings to construct in your limited settlements; depending on how much money you have coming in through battles and sacking, it may be worth it to construct something just to unlock research and then destroy it to make room for something you genuinely need.

	Despite ~~skinks~~ being largely cannon fodder after turn 75, the ~~skink~~ Spawning Pool building should be built in every minor settlement so that you can hire as many Skink Chief heroes as possible. Not only are they the faction assassins, which help ~~lizardmen~~ remove otherwise troublesome heroes that would be difficult to snipe on the battlefield, they can all get ~~stegadon~~ or ~~ancient stegadon~~ mounts. These are functionally equivalent to the generic version but come with extended range and bonuses to damage. It is possible to have two full armies of just Skink Chiefs by the Chaos invasion, if you so wish, and it is even more OP than the standard dinostack. Skink Priests also have access to these mounts, but increasing their recruiting slots is much more difficult.		Despite Skinks being largely cannon fodder after turn 75, the Skink Spawning Pool building should be built in every minor settlement so that you can hire as many Skink Chief heroes as possible. Not only are they the faction assassins, which help Lizardmen remove otherwise troublesome heroes that would be difficult to snipe on the battlefield, they can all get Stegadon or Ancient Stegadon mounts. These are functionally equivalent to the generic version but come with extended range and bonuses to damage. It is possible to have two full armies of just Skink Chiefs by the Chaos invasion, if you so wish, and it is even more OP than the standard dinostack. Skink Priests also have access to these mounts, but increasing their recruiting slots is much more difficult.

	Once you start becoming established and have a few provinces under your belt, it is imperative to begin constructing Star Chambers in every province you can afford to do so. Each Star Chamber boosts the starting rank of all newly recruited Slann Mage-Priests by 3 levels and all new heroes by 2. Yes, this stacks all the way up so that you can recruit max level Slann every 10 turns. Each Star Chamber also offers a small but lucrative bonus to all income for the whole Province, which helps to address your stone-age economy and extends enemy sieges by an extra 3 turns, potentially granting you just enough time to save the city should it fall under attack.		Once you start becoming established and have a few provinces under your belt, it is imperative to begin constructing Star Chambers in every province you can afford to do so. Each Star Chamber boosts the starting rank of all newly recruited Slann Mage-Priests by 3 levels and all new heroes by 2. Yes, this stacks all the way up so that you can recruit max level Slann every 10 turns. Each Star Chamber also offers a small but lucrative bonus to all income for the whole Province, which helps to address your stone-age economy and extends enemy sieges by an extra 3 turns, potentially granting you just enough time to save the city should it fall under attack.

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Domination

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	General Tier Rank: '''S/S-'''		General Tier Rank: '''S/S-'''

	Though you aren't the undisputed king of Domination, Lizardmen are absolutely positioned as one of the top factions for this game mode currently. A very flexible faction with many options, you have excellent early game presence in the form of skinks. Your quick-footed infantry chaff will easily contest objectives due to their higher capture weight compared to the expendable chaff infantry other factions might field and will have a much easier time getting to them shortly after the game begins. Particularly any of the skirmishing variety that you vanguard deployed. Speaking of, Chameleon Stalkers/Skinks are still excellent skirmishers and harassers who can dive in and disrupt outlying forces, making objective contesting a painful nuisance for ill-equipped foes. When it comes to holding the line, your Saurus infantry is as durable as ever. When supported by regular ~~skinks~~, it will take a concentrated effort if not a full hard counter in order to shift your forces off of an objective. This is made even more challenging due to your rather plentiful healing options; Life Slann, Skink Oracles and even Revivification Bastilidons are fantastic for keeping your forces in the fight. Even more so if further supported by any Slann's Ward save nope-bubble that they can plant down on any objective to thoroughly lock it down. This isn't even really getting into your single entity beat-sticks; Kroq-Gar can prove the equal of lords such as Be'lakor with the right support and Lord Kroak can still ~~Deliver~~ Itza hard enough to evaporate enemy blobs with frightening ease.		Though you aren't the undisputed king of Domination, Lizardmen are absolutely positioned as one of the top factions for this game mode currently. A very flexible faction with many options, you have excellent early game presence in the form of skinks. Your quick-footed infantry chaff will easily contest objectives due to their higher capture weight compared to the expendable chaff infantry other factions might field and will have a much easier time getting to them shortly after the game begins. Particularly any of the skirmishing variety that you vanguard deployed. Speaking of, Chameleon Stalkers/Skinks are still excellent skirmishers and harassers who can dive in and disrupt outlying forces, making objective contesting a painful nuisance for ill-equipped foes. When it comes to holding the line, your Saurus infantry is as durable as ever. When supported by regular Skinks, it will take a concentrated effort if not a full hard counter in order to shift your forces off of an objective. This is made even more challenging due to your rather plentiful healing options; Life Slann, Skink Oracles and even Revivification Bastilidons are fantastic for keeping your forces in the fight. Even more so if further supported by any Slann's Ward save nope-bubble that they can plant down on any objective to thoroughly lock it down. This isn't even really getting into your single entity beat-sticks; Kroq-Gar can prove the equal of lords such as Be'lakor with the right support and Lord Kroak can still Deliverance of Itza hard enough to evaporate enemy blobs with frightening ease.

	At the end of the day, your sheer versatility affords you ''far'' more flexibility in dealing with the highly varied factions you'll be facing while still being able to focus on defending objectives. Yes, there are still some factions you'll generally struggle to deal with, but you will at least have a couple tools to handle them while you hold your ground. This is something some of the other factions (like the Dwarfs or Vampire Coast) cannot quite claim.		At the end of the day, your sheer versatility affords you ''far'' more flexibility in dealing with the highly varied factions you'll be facing while still being able to focus on defending objectives. Yes, there are still some factions you'll generally struggle to deal with, but you will at least have a couple tools to handle them while you hold your ground. This is something some of the other factions (like the Dwarfs or Vampire Coast) cannot quite claim.

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Faction Counterplay

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	*'''Nurgle''': Nurgle has no anti-large, bad armour piercing, relies on outlasting his enemies, has almost no ranged firepower worth mentioning, has incredibly poor armour, is ridiculously slow, hates fire damage, and is mediocre in the air-game. Basically, everything Nurgle hates is something you have plenty of while Nurgle has precisely zero counters to your playstyle. You almost can't lose this match-up it's so one-sided.		*'''Nurgle''': Nurgle has no anti-large, bad armour piercing, relies on outlasting his enemies, has almost no ranged firepower worth mentioning, has incredibly poor armour, is ridiculously slow, hates fire damage, and is mediocre in the air-game. Basically, everything Nurgle hates is something you have plenty of while Nurgle has precisely zero counters to your playstyle. You almost can't lose this match-up it's so one-sided.

	*'''Ogre Kingdoms''': This is a fairly balanced matchup depending on what you bring. Saurus Spears are the obvious pick here and try to avoid Skink units entirely unless you want to give the Gorgers free food. Carnosaurs with their anti-large are an obvious pick here and going for a Stegadon with or without a hero on the back is great for counterplay against Leadbelchers.The scariest thing Ogres can bring are Rhinoxes or their artillery. Essentially settle in for a large-on-large slugfest.		*'''Ogre Kingdoms''': This is a fairly balanced matchup depending on what you bring. Saurus Spears are the obvious pick here and try to avoid Skink units entirely unless you want to give the Gorgers free food. Carnosaurs with their anti-large are an obvious pick here and going for a Stegadon with or without a hero on the back is great for counterplay against Leadbelchers. The scariest thing Ogres can bring are Rhinoxes or their artillery. Essentially settle in for a large-on-large slugfest.

	*'''Skaven''': An iconic matchup, the ~~skaven~~ are everything the ~~lizardmen~~ aren't. Massive hordes of cheap, cowardly cannon fodder will fill the ranks of many ~~skaven~~ lists purely to get in the way of your Jurassic might and their rickety engines of war. Aside delaying the inevitable through piles of bodies, the ratmen have precious little in the way of durable front line units and will typically fall apart when thrown in the grinder. Rather, Skaven will rely on their wide array of artillery and arcane firearms to rain warpfire upon the hapless masses (friend and foe alike). Ratling Gunners are notorious for their ability to rapidly shred infantry, cavalry and monsters alike while their jezzails excel at picking apart single entity monsters, lords and heroes from halfway across the battlefield. Any frontline infantry you have you'll want shielded. In general, ~~skaven~~ are modestly quick on their feet, so you'll want a selection of cavalry or skinks to catch up to and tie down their missile infantry. Chameleon Skinks are generally a strong pick against skaven due to their missile resistance and for once can do respectable damage due to the relative lack of armor in the ~~skaven~~ roster. Skink Cohorts will typically win in a straight fight against Skaven Slaves or Clanrats, though against anything more elite you'll want ~~saurus~~ or ~~kroxigors~~ to deal with them. Your monsters will also have virtually free reign should they manage to make it into melee, though you'll want to ensure any artillery or missile infantry are well and truly tied down before you let them loose.		*'''Skaven''': An iconic matchup, the Skaven are everything the Lizardmen aren't. Massive hordes of cheap, cowardly cannon fodder will fill the ranks of many Skaven lists purely to get in the way of your Jurassic might and their rickety engines of war. Aside delaying the inevitable through piles of bodies, the ratmen have precious little in the way of durable front line units and will typically fall apart when thrown in the grinder. Rather, Skaven will rely on their wide array of artillery and arcane firearms to rain warpfire upon the hapless masses (friend and foe alike). Ratling Gunners are notorious for their ability to rapidly shred infantry, cavalry and monsters alike while their jezzails excel at picking apart single entity monsters, lords and heroes from halfway across the battlefield. Any frontline infantry you have you'll want shielded. In general, Skaven are modestly quick on their feet, so you'll want a selection of cavalry or skinks to catch up to and tie down their missile infantry. Chameleon Skinks are generally a strong pick against skaven due to their missile resistance and for once can do respectable damage due to the relative lack of armor in the Skaven roster. Skink Cohorts will typically win in a straight fight against Skaven Slaves or Clanrats, though against anything more elite you'll want Saurus or Kroxigors to deal with them. Your monsters will also have virtually free reign should they manage to make it into melee, though you'll want to ensure any artillery or missile infantry are well and truly tied down before you let them loose.

	*'''Slaanesh''': Much like the Dark Elves, this matchup falls considerably in their favor. Speedy infantry, cavalry and chariots ''all'' packing AP damage makes a front line of Saurus undesirable. However, unlike the Dark Elves, Slaanesh [[/d/\|comes]] up short in the ranged game; your Chameleon Skinks, Skink Skirmishers and even both Terradon Riders will prove quite valuable at whittling away Slaaneshi daemons, though exquisite care will be needed for your ~~skink~~ infantry; even with poison debuffs, Slaaneshi units are ''damn'' fast and will still be able to chase down and tie up your Skinks without screening support. Other options include your trademark dinosaurs; despite packing AP damage, Slaanesh is not generally kitted with a diverse Anti-Large roster and may struggle trying to hold back your high-mass monsters from tearing through their ranks. When it comes to your Terradons, take a care. Slaanesh will usually pack some Furies to help defend the skies and though Furies won't win against any of your other monsters, your Terradons aren't most other monsters.		*'''Slaanesh''': Much like the Dark Elves, this matchup falls considerably in their favor. Speedy infantry, cavalry and chariots ''all'' packing AP damage makes a front line of Saurus undesirable. However, unlike the Dark Elves, Slaanesh [[/d/\|comes]] up short in the ranged game; your Chameleon Skinks, Skink Skirmishers and even both Terradon Riders will prove quite valuable at whittling away Slaaneshi daemons, though exquisite care will be needed for your Skink infantry; even with poison debuffs, Slaaneshi units are ''damn'' fast and will still be able to chase down and tie up your Skinks without screening support. Other options include your trademark dinosaurs; despite packing AP damage, Slaanesh is not generally kitted with a diverse Anti-Large roster and may struggle trying to hold back your high-mass monsters from tearing through their ranks. When it comes to your Terradons, take a care. Slaanesh will usually pack some Furies to help defend the skies and though Furies won't win against any of your other monsters, your Terradons aren't most other monsters.

	*'''Tomb Kings''': There's not a lot a basic skeleton army can do to ~~lizardmen~~. Unit for unit, ~~saurus~~ are just better and ~~skinks~~ will be more maneuverable. An all-dino army can destroy ~~ushabti~~ and higher-tier units with ease, provided you've picked the right dinos (~~stegadons~~). However, this is not a reason to be complacent - the Tomb Kings roster has some very deadly Anti-Large AP units on their roster that will make very short work of your dinos. Of particular note are the Ushabti Greatbows and Necrosphinx; the former are dedicated monster snipers and the latter is absolute murder against other single-entity monsters. Try to mob these units with your infantry or try to make them irrelevant with magic, because the high innate armor and mass these units naturally have will mean they can and will be able to move around the battlefield with impunity.		*'''Tomb Kings''': There's not a lot a basic skeleton army can do to the Lizardmen. Unit for unit, Saurus are just better and Skinks will be more maneuverable. An all-dino army can destroy Ushabti and higher-tier units with ease, provided you've picked the right dinos (Stegadons). However, this is not a reason to be complacent - the Tomb Kings roster has some very deadly Anti-Large AP units on their roster that will make very short work of your dinos. Of particular note are the Ushabti Greatbows and Necrosphinx; the former are dedicated monster snipers and the latter is absolute murder against other single-entity monsters. Try to mob these units with your infantry or try to make them irrelevant with magic, because the high innate armor and mass these units naturally have will mean they can and will be able to move around the battlefield with impunity.

	*'''Tzeentch''': The key against Tzeentch is to get into melee quick and hold their units in place; Tzeentch daemons, even with their Protoss-like shields, aren't built for combat and will either try to do all their work at range (something you ''desperately'' will not want to combat them at) or by cycle charging before you get a chance to crack their shields. This is one of the rare matchups your Cold One Riders can actually excel at; they're rather decent in combat and can engage the enemy far sooner than your standard Saurus or Skinks can (and will likely/hopefully suffer less casualties for it). Additionally, Chameleon Stalkers can safely sneak up to vulnerable flanks; open up with a rather explosive burst of their own and start chewing through Horrors before they get much opportunity to return fire. Try not to contest the skies if you can, though Ripperdactyls will likely best most of the units they'd be fighting in the skies... they'll be outnumbered substantially ''and'' move much more slowly. They'll be lit up far before they can ever catch up to anything.		*'''Tzeentch''': The key against Tzeentch is to get into melee quick and hold their units in place; Tzeentch daemons, even with their Protoss-like shields, aren't built for combat and will either try to do all their work at range (something you ''desperately'' will not want to combat them at) or by cycle charging before you get a chance to crack their shields. This is one of the rare matchups your Cold One Riders can actually excel at; they're rather decent in combat and can engage the enemy far sooner than your standard Saurus or Skinks can (and will likely/hopefully suffer less casualties for it). Additionally, Chameleon Stalkers can safely sneak up to vulnerable flanks; open up with a rather explosive burst of their own and start chewing through Horrors before they get much opportunity to return fire. Try not to contest the skies if you can, though Ripperdactyls will likely best most of the units they'd be fighting in the skies... they'll be outnumbered substantially ''and'' move much more slowly. They'll be lit up far before they can ever catch up to anything.
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	*'''Warriors of Chaos''': Another faction almost devoid of ranged options, the Warriors of Chaos is almost dedicated to advancing a wall of steel and meat from one end of the map to the other. Many of their units are armored and/or shielded and as such, armor-piercing units will be your friend against them. Take a few units of Saurus (Spears) to hold their units in place while you have some Red-Crested Skinks chip away at them. Spears are strongly suggested due to the relative abundance of large/monstrous units within their roster; they might not win against them, but your spears will go down fighting much harder than your regular warriors would. Take a unit or two of Ripperdactyls to shut down any Hellcannons they might've brought to the table. Take no half-measures with them either; they're unbreakable so you ''will'' need to completely wipe them out if you don't want to be bombarded the entire match. Otherwise, some (Sacred) Kroxigors, Razordons and Stegadons are fantastic damage dealers and a Skink Priest of Heavens or a Fire Slann can delete large chunks of their infantry at a time with proper placement and timing.		*'''Warriors of Chaos''': Another faction almost devoid of ranged options, the Warriors of Chaos is almost dedicated to advancing a wall of steel and meat from one end of the map to the other. Many of their units are armored and/or shielded and as such, armor-piercing units will be your friend against them. Take a few units of Saurus (Spears) to hold their units in place while you have some Red-Crested Skinks chip away at them. Spears are strongly suggested due to the relative abundance of large/monstrous units within their roster; they might not win against them, but your spears will go down fighting much harder than your regular warriors would. Take a unit or two of Ripperdactyls to shut down any Hellcannons they might've brought to the table. Take no half-measures with them either; they're unbreakable so you ''will'' need to completely wipe them out if you don't want to be bombarded the entire match. Otherwise, some (Sacred) Kroxigors, Razordons and Stegadons are fantastic damage dealers and a Skink Priest of Heavens or a Fire Slann can delete large chunks of their infantry at a time with proper placement and timing.

	*'''Wood Elves''': Wood Elves are a flighty foe and one of the hardest for your army to actually pin down. Their relatively cheap access to long-ranged anti-armor missile infantry will pose a massive pain in the ass and their basic frontline infantry, the Eternal Guard, can hold their own surprisingly well against your monsters courtesy of their spears. In a rare twist, a front line of ~~skink cohorts~~ will prove more effective than your ~~saurus~~ against ~~wood elves~~; they're quicker still than many elven infantry options and can further hinder their combat effectiveness thanks to their poison. Chameleon ~~skinks~~ will prove invaluable at harassing enemy archers and can kite a majority of their infantry with relative ease. Now when it comes to dealing with their tree units, I have one word for you. Fire. (Ancient) Salamanders can deal with ~~dryads~~, ~~tree kin~~ and ~~treemen~~ with laughable ease and will prove just as effective at dealing with the rest of the ~~wood elf~~ roster, though you'll absolutely want a contingent or two of ~~saurus spears~~ to screen against Wild Riders. Wood Elves are also a rare instance of being a faction with ''less'' artillery than you (hint, they have none). Solar Engine bastilidons can heavily discourage their archers from setting up and will do bonus damage to any tree units they shoot. Lastly, many Wood Elf units are capable of vanguard deployment; keep an eye on your surroundings once the battle starts to ensure you aren't caught unawares.		*'''Wood Elves''': Wood Elves are a flighty foe and one of the hardest for your army to actually pin down. Their relatively cheap access to long-ranged anti-armor missile infantry will pose a massive pain in the ass and their basic frontline infantry, the Eternal Guard, can hold their own surprisingly well against your monsters, courtesy of their spears. In a rare twist, a front line of Skink Cohorts will prove more effective than your Saurus against Wood Elves; they're quicker still than many elven infantry options and can further hinder their combat effectiveness thanks to their poison. Chameleon Skinks will prove invaluable at harassing enemy archers and can kite a majority of their infantry with relative ease. Now when it comes to dealing with their tree units, I have one word for you. Fire. (Ancient) Salamanders can deal with Dryads, Tree Kin and Treemen with laughable ease and will prove just as effective at dealing with the rest of the Wood Elf roster, though you'll absolutely want a contingent or two of Saurus Spears to screen against Wild Riders. Wood Elves are also a rare instance of being a faction with ''less'' artillery than you (hint, they have none). Solar Engine bastilidons can heavily discourage their archers from setting up and will do bonus damage to any tree units they shoot. Lastly, many Wood Elf units are capable of vanguard deployment; keep an eye on your surroundings once the battle starts to ensure you aren't caught unawares.

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	*'''Kislev''': Kislev is a relatively fearless foe for you, a nice change of pace for mere mortal men. Their higher tier infantry is generally able to out-trade yours, Tzar Guard (especially the Great Weapon variety) can and will gradually carve their way through regular Saurus lines while Streltsi and Ice Guard will prove quite competent at dealing with your forces at range. Fortunately, your sheer versatility means you aren't wanting for options. Even if they're a bit slower, your Cavalry will generally outclass Kislev's, barring any War Bear Riders they may have brought. Even regular Cold One Riders will make a fantastic hammer to the anvil that is your Saurus and even a losing matchup against their stronger Tzar Guard will quickly turn in your favor with a rear charge or two. Of course, aside their War Bear Riders, Kislev's monsters can't hold a candle to yours. Once you shut down some of the ranged AP Missiles, your dinos can wreak terrible havoc upon the enemy lines. Razordons are particularly effective right now, though Salamanders can be used to efficiently deal with the more monstrous enemy units. Terradons are almost always a never-pick however as since in essence every single Kislev unit has a ranged attack that is more than capable of dealing with them Terradons are free kills for even Kossars.		*'''Kislev''': Kislev is a relatively fearless foe for you, a nice change of pace for mere mortal men. Their higher tier infantry is generally able to out-trade yours, Tzar Guard (especially the Great Weapon variety) can and will gradually carve their way through regular Saurus lines while Streltsi and Ice Guard will prove quite competent at dealing with your forces at range. Fortunately, your sheer versatility means you aren't wanting for options. Even if they're a bit slower, your Cavalry will generally outclass Kislev's, barring any War Bear Riders they may have brought. Even regular Cold One Riders will make a fantastic hammer to the anvil that is your Saurus and even a losing matchup against their stronger Tzar Guard will quickly turn in your favor with a rear charge or two. Of course, aside their War Bear Riders, Kislev's monsters can't hold a candle to yours. Once you shut down some of the ranged AP Missiles, your dinos can wreak terrible havoc upon the enemy lines. Razordons are particularly effective right now, though Salamanders can be used to efficiently deal with the more monstrous enemy units. Terradons are almost always a never-pick however as since in essence every single Kislev unit has a ranged attack that is more than capable of dealing with them Terradons are free kills for even Kossars.

	*'''Lizardmen''': This...should be a no brainer in concept, though countering opposing Lizardmen can be somewhat difficult to execute. Anti-large units in some shape or form are an inarguable must; Cold One Spear-		*'''Lizardmen''': This...should be a no brainer in concept, though countering opposing Lizardmen can be somewhat difficult to execute. Anti-large units in some shape or form are an inarguable must; Cold One Spear-Riders accompanied by Saurus Spears can surround and pin down enemy monsters in a relatively cost-effective manner. Red Crested Skinks are an ideal infantry choice due to their poison and armor piercing bonus coming into play against a majority of the Lizardmen roster. Salamander Hunting Packs and Ancient Salamanders are fantastic all-rounders that can deal terrifying damage across the entire board. Your main objective should be to focus down any Slann Mage-Priest or Skink Priests present on the field, followed by any other lord/hero keeping potential rampages in check. If there is an opposing Slann, avoid clumping up your infantry to reduce the threat of a Banishment and/or any other vortex spell devastating your frontlines. Regular Stegadons are fantastic monster snipers who should focus fire on major threats like Carnosaurs or Dread Saurians before anything else.
	Riders accompanied by Saurus Spears can surround and pin down enemy monsters in a relatively cost-effective manner. Red Crested Skinks are an ideal infantry choice due to their poison and armor piercing bonus coming into play against a majority of the Lizardmen roster. Salamander Hunting Packs and Ancient Salamanders are fantastic all-rounders that can deal terrifying damage across the entire board. Your main objective should be to focus down any Slann Mage-Priest or Skink Priests present on the field, followed by any other lord/hero keeping potential rampages in check. If there is an opposing Slann, avoid clumping up your infantry to reduce the threat of a Banishment and/or any other vortex spell devastating your frontlines. Regular Stegadons are fantastic monster snipers who should focus fire on major threats like Carnosaurs or Dread Saurians before anything else.

	*'''Norsca''': These guys are pretty much Warriors of Chaos with a little bit of [[Space Wolf\|wolf]] thrown in. Like the Warriors of Chaos, they have a relative lack of missile units but unlike the Warriors of Chaos, are considerably less armored as a whole. However, they more than make up for it with their mobility and plentiful sources of anti-large, which can be seriously dangerous for one of your central strategies. Saurus Warriors as such are substantially better at holding off the bulk of their front lines while Temple Guard are a fantastic answer to their Skin Wolves and Trolls. You need to be on top of your positioning however, as Skin Wolves and Ice Wolves can run circles around your plodding infantry. Skink Skirmishers are also fantastic for dealing chip damage and applying poison while staying well out of arm's reach for a majority of their forces. (Ancient) Salamanders are also a superb choice, as are Fireleech Bolas Terradons as general damage dealers. Stegadons and Carnosaurs will likely be your go-to monsters, as a pair of Carnosaurs can typically take down a War Mammoth, at least in theory. Caution should be exercised against War Mammoths in particular, as they are one of the best monster units in the game. Considering the fact that half your list is made of monsters, that's saying something. No Norscan worth his salt will allow you to freely target down the crown jewel of his army, so make sure you commit well and truly to the fight.		*'''Norsca''': These guys are pretty much Warriors of Chaos with a little bit of [[Space Wolf\|wolf]] thrown in. Like the Warriors of Chaos, they have a relative lack of missile units but unlike the Warriors of Chaos, are considerably less armored as a whole. However, they more than make up for it with their mobility and plentiful sources of anti-large, which can be seriously dangerous for one of your central strategies. Saurus Warriors as such are substantially better at holding off the bulk of their front lines while Temple Guard are a fantastic answer to their Skin Wolves and Trolls. You need to be on top of your positioning however, as Skin Wolves and Ice Wolves can run circles around your plodding infantry. Skink Skirmishers are also fantastic for dealing chip damage and applying poison while staying well out of arm's reach for a majority of their forces. (Ancient) Salamanders are also a superb choice, as are Fireleech Bolas Terradons as general damage dealers. Stegadons and Carnosaurs will likely be your go-to monsters, as a pair of Carnosaurs can typically take down a War Mammoth, at least in theory. Caution should be exercised against War Mammoths in particular, as they are one of the best monster units in the game. Considering the fact that half your list is made of monsters, that's saying something. No Norscan worth his salt will allow you to freely target down the crown jewel of his army, so make sure you commit well and truly to the fight.

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