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1d4chan>A Walrus: /* Monsters */

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	*'''Soul Grinder of Nurgle''': Looks and acts like a 40K Plague Hulk, only replace the sword with a claw. Essentially the only other artillery the faction has aside from Ku’gath, and definitely the only long-ranged unit you can get more than one of. very good anti-infantry artillery with great speed and durability. One of the fastest Nurgle units. Good choice for a doomstack, similar to a vampire coast necrofex stack.		*'''Soul Grinder of Nurgle''': Looks and acts like a 40K Plague Hulk, only replace the sword with a claw. Essentially the only other artillery the faction has aside from Ku’gath, and definitely the only long-ranged unit you can get more than one of. very good anti-infantry artillery with great speed and durability. One of the fastest Nurgle units. Good choice for a doomstack, similar to a vampire coast necrofex stack.

	*'''Great Unclean One''': Nurgle's big bulbous boys of mass and rot capable of taking the blast from a hell cannon and shrugging it off. These jolly green giants want nothing more than to spread Papa's love and the massive swords they wield can shear through armour. They can cast two bound spells from the Lore of Nurgle - Stream of Corruption and Miasma of Pestilence. Campaign techs can grant more spells. Good for a tanky goon squad alongside an Exalted Great Unclean One. With their massive health pool a few overcast Fleshy Abundance spells can keep them both in the fight for a long time. Due to their speed you probably want to either plop them on an objective point where they can stay forever, or keep them in the frontline brawl. Patch 1.2 changed their inherent spell casting to bound spells and with campaign techs can get up 2 uses of every Nurgle spell per match, this gives them a good mixture of unit and single entity killing power, a strong damage reflection buff and some free single target healing. Definitly worth using alongside of Soul grinders in campaign now, especially once you've tech'd them out.		*'''Great Unclean One''': Nurgle's big bulbous boys of mass and rot capable of taking the blast from a hell cannon and shrugging it off. These jolly green giants want nothing more than to spread Papa's love and the massive swords they wield can shear through armour. They can cast two bound spells from the Lore of Nurgle - Stream of Corruption and Miasma of Pestilence. Campaign techs can grant more spells. Good for a tanky goon squad alongside an Exalted Great Unclean One. With their massive health pool a few overcast Fleshy Abundance spells can keep them both in the fight for a long time. Due to their speed you probably want to either plop them on an objective point where they can stay forever, or keep them in the frontline brawl. Patch 1.2 changed their inherent spell casting to bound spells and with campaign techs can get up 2 uses of every Nurgle spell per match, this gives them a good mixture of unit and single entity killing power, a strong damage reflection buff and some free single target healing. Definitly worth using alongside of Soul grinders in campaign now, especially once you've tech'd them out. That said, as slow big targets they do have a weakness to focus firing.
	**'''Uncle Furuncle''': This jolly guy is a GUO with Miasma of Pestilence swapped out for Spirit Leech and a special ability that gives him a temporary Mortis Engine aura while simultaneously healing him. However, he loses the Lore of Nurgle passive. An ideal offensive counterpart to the more defensive qualities of the normal GUO.		**'''Uncle Furuncle''': This jolly guy is a GUO with Miasma of Pestilence swapped out for Spirit Leech and a special ability that gives him a temporary Mortis Engine aura while simultaneously healing him. However, he loses the Lore of Nurgle passive. An ideal offensive counterpart to the more defensive qualities of the normal GUO.

	*'''Bilious Thunderguff: (RoR) (DLC)''' An upgraded giant sworn to Nurgle. Surprisingly competitive with great unclean ones with better HP, weapon strength, and similar bound AOE spells to crap all over surrounding infantry.		*'''Bilious Thunderguff: (RoR) (DLC)''' An upgraded giant sworn to Nurgle. Surprisingly competitive with great unclean ones with better HP, weapon strength, and similar bound AOE spells to crap all over surrounding infantry.

	===Artillery===		===Artillery===
	None to speak of, other than Ku'Gath lobbing Nurglings at people and soul grinders. Though admittedly Soul Grinders are actually very solid artillery.		None to speak of, other than Ku'Gath lobbing Nurglings at people and soul grinders. Though admittedly Soul Grinders are actually very solid artillery.

1d4chan>Brothermac: /* Cavalry */

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Cavalry

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	*'''Chaos Warhounds (Poison) (DLC):''' Finally, immortal empires gives Nurgle the cheap, fast, skirmishy, harasser they desperately needed. Identical to their Warriors of Chaos and Beastmen counterparts, use them the exact same way. or you could just use rotflies which are flying and actually have AP, at least in campaign where the price difference matters much less.		*'''Chaos Warhounds (Poison) (DLC):''' Finally, immortal empires gives Nurgle the cheap, fast, skirmishy, harasser they desperately needed. Identical to their Warriors of Chaos and Beastmen counterparts, use them the exact same way. or you could just use rotflies which are flying and actually have AP, at least in campaign where the price difference matters much less.
	===Cavalry===		===Cavalry===
	*'''Plague Toads''': A surprising addition from the [[Forge World]] Throne of Chaos book, but a cool one ~~non~~ the less. Much slower than other cavalry, being giant amphibians and all, but have a very high charge bonus and do well against infantry.		*'''Plague Toads''': A surprising addition from the [[Forge World]] Throne of Chaos book, but a cool one none the less. Much slower than other cavalry, being giant amphibians and all, but have a very high charge bonus and do well against infantry.

	*'''Plague Drone''': An oddity for this faction, being not only fast fliers, but have armour piercing as well. Comes in two variants, standard melee (essentially an upgrade of rot flies) and a ranged version that tosses Death’s Heads at their foes. Like standard Rotflies, their mass makes them considerably more dangerous on walls, allowing them to knock enemy melee infantry off the walls thus both disrupting them and killing models.		*'''Plague Drone''': An oddity for this faction, being not only fast fliers, but have armour piercing as well. Comes in two variants, standard melee (essentially an upgrade of rot flies) and a ranged version that tosses Death’s Heads at their foes. Like standard Rotflies, their mass makes them considerably more dangerous on walls, allowing them to knock enemy melee infantry off the walls thus both disrupting them and killing models.
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	*'''Chaos Knights of Nurgle (DLC)''': Your best cavalry unit. Slightly slower than other chaos knights but comes with poison attacks to debuff enemies and make it harder for them to escape once they're engaged. The real MVP of the campaign, they can be recruited from minor settlements so you can actually mass recruit them. They also have melee stats comparable to chosen with way better speed.		*'''Chaos Knights of Nurgle (DLC)''': Your best cavalry unit. Slightly slower than other chaos knights but comes with poison attacks to debuff enemies and make it harder for them to escape once they're engaged. The real MVP of the campaign, they can be recruited from minor settlements so you can actually mass recruit them. They also have melee stats comparable to chosen with way better speed.

	===Chariots===		===Chariots===
	*'''Chaos Chariots of Nurgle (DLC)''': Heavily armored chariot with poisoned attacks and slightly less speed than other chaos chariots.		*'''Chaos Chariots of Nurgle (DLC)''': Heavily armored chariot with poisoned attacks and slightly less speed than other chaos chariots.

1d4chan>Brothermac: /* Legendary Lords */

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Legendary Lords

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	===Legendary Lords===		===Legendary Lords===
	*'''[[Ku'Gath\|Ku'gath Plaguefather]]''': The one and only. He's a spellcaster of Nurgle (duh) and also works as artillery here like on tabletop. Big Ku'gath has 14,800 HP(!), but is expectantly VERY slow. Like 28 speed slow, Hierotitans can outpace this guy. His slow speed combined with only 70 armour means, that he will actually be rather susceptible to skirmish fire. While this may sound bad, again, mother fucker has 14k HP and ranged attacks, so he should be able to weather the storm and pelt ~~and~~ skirmishers that come his way. Can also summon a unit of Nurglings that have a suicide explosion ability. His artillery ~~range~~ attack makes him far superior to a normal Great Unclean One, because he can't be safely picked apart by ranged attacks.		*'''[[Ku'Gath\|Ku'gath Plaguefather]]''': The one and only. He's a spellcaster of Nurgle (duh) and also works as artillery here like on tabletop. Big Ku'gath has 14,800 HP(!), but is expectantly VERY slow. Like 28 speed slow, Hierotitans can outpace this guy. His slow speed combined with only 70 armour means, that he will actually be rather susceptible to skirmish fire. While this may sound bad, again, mother fucker has 14k HP and ranged attacks, so he should be able to weather the storm and pelt any skirmishers that come his way. Can also summon a unit of Nurglings that have a suicide explosion ability. His artillery ranged attack makes him far superior to a normal Great Unclean One, because he can't be safely picked apart by ranged attacks.

	*'''[[Festus the Leechlord]] (DLC, Multiplayer only)''': Lore of Nurgle, a healing/mortis engine aura, and above average HP makes him your best lord if you want a low profile support caster to hang around melee mosh pits. But his mediocre stats and non-existent mobility means you should go for a different pick if you want your lord to be able to do anything else. Consider escorting him with single entity monsters or an exalted hero if you're up against a faction that can bring flying goon squads like Tzeentch and Brettonia.		*'''[[Festus the Leechlord]] (DLC, Multiplayer only)''': Lore of Nurgle, a healing/mortis engine aura, and above average HP makes him your best lord if you want a low profile support caster to hang around melee mosh pits. But his mediocre stats and non-existent mobility means you should go for a different pick if you want your lord to be able to do anything else. Consider escorting him with single entity monsters or an exalted hero if you're up against a faction that can bring flying goon squads like Tzeentch and Brettonia.

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1d4chan>A Walrus: /* Multiplayer Strategies */

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Multiplayer Strategies

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	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Bretonnia\| Bretonnia]]''': Bretonnia struggles against large monsters and you've got plenty of those. You won't need much to win the infantry fight, so bring a bunch of nurglings and back them up with Beasts of Nurgle, Soul Grinders, Chaos Spawn, ore maybe even Great Unclean ones. Maybe grab a couple of Furies to swamp their archers as well. Watch as the knights charge into you again and again and you just heal the damage right back up. Eventually you'll wipe the floor with their peasants and then it's just a question of who outlasts who -- exactly the kind of engagement you like.		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Bretonnia\| Bretonnia]]''': Bretonnia struggles against large monsters and you've got plenty of those. You won't need much to win the infantry fight, so bring a bunch of nurglings and back them up with Beasts of Nurgle, Soul Grinders, Chaos Spawn, ore maybe even Great Unclean ones. Maybe grab a couple of Furies to swamp their archers as well. Watch as the knights charge into you again and again and you just heal the damage right back up. Eventually you'll wipe the floor with their peasants and then it's just a question of who outlasts who -- exactly the kind of engagement you like.

			*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Chaos Dwarfs\| Chaos Dwarfs]]''': Be prepared for a world of hurt. They are tanky, long range and have no shortage of fire based weapons to ruin your day with.

	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Daemons of Chaos\| Daemons of Chaos]]''':		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Daemons of Chaos\| Daemons of Chaos]]''':

78.8.180.90: No, Vampirates do NOT have enough dakka.

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No, Vampirates do NOT have enough dakka.

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	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Tzeentch\|Tzeentch]]''': It's a safe bet that this will be a very unpleasant matchup for you. Tzeentch will control the skies, your fliers are no match for his even if he doesn't bring a flying lord of change. The plodding movement of most of your army means you won't be able to chase down Tzeentch's speedier units and keep them from abusing barrier regeneration with hit + run attacks. Worst of all, your enemy has access to an absurd amount of fire damage, so kiss goodbye to regeneration. Best advice is to suicide screen your army with nurglings and bring plague toads/pox riders to trap cycle chargers. Minimize losses by blocking with fodder, spreading out to reduce units hit by breath/vortex spells, camping in forests, and spamming fleshy abundance heals from the Lore of Nurgle. Winds of magic are a finite resource and Tzeentch's ranged units don't have much ammo so eventually he will have to close to melee and fight you in your element. You should have the game in the bag if you keep enough of your army alive.		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Tzeentch\|Tzeentch]]''': It's a safe bet that this will be a very unpleasant matchup for you. Tzeentch will control the skies, your fliers are no match for his even if he doesn't bring a flying lord of change. The plodding movement of most of your army means you won't be able to chase down Tzeentch's speedier units and keep them from abusing barrier regeneration with hit + run attacks. Worst of all, your enemy has access to an absurd amount of fire damage, so kiss goodbye to regeneration. Best advice is to suicide screen your army with nurglings and bring plague toads/pox riders to trap cycle chargers. Minimize losses by blocking with fodder, spreading out to reduce units hit by breath/vortex spells, camping in forests, and spamming fleshy abundance heals from the Lore of Nurgle. Winds of magic are a finite resource and Tzeentch's ranged units don't have much ammo so eventually he will have to close to melee and fight you in your element. You should have the game in the bag if you keep enough of your army alive.

	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Vampire Coast\| Vampire Coast]]''': The good news is that you do have tools against blobbed up infantry. The bad news is that you are target practice for the largest pile of guns you've ever seen and your unarmoured and agonizingly slow hordes will have the zombies manning Queen Bess salivating. You'll probably win the grind against the Zombies barring dumping a ton of magic or them hitting you with one of their big AoE spells, but this doesn't matter at all unless you win fast enough to get to the gunlines which is a huge ask for Nurgle. The Vampire Coast also has extremely powerful monsters and you are terrible at dealing with monsters and the only reason you might not see the RoR Necrofex in this match up is that the points limit is too small to fit both it and the Queen Bess. If you do see both, you are going to suffer. And the Coast sadly has enough of an airgame as well as ~~more than enough~~ dakka to pound your own fliers out of the sky. Like their landlubber counterparts, you have to watch out closely for Wind and Vortex spells; especially the Wind of Death which can instantly decide a melee fight and you're too slow to dodge reliably. Harkon on his pet bat are an absolute pain in the ass and you don't really have any answers to him.		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Vampire Coast\| Vampire Coast]]''': The good news is that you do have tools against blobbed up infantry. The bad news is that you are target practice for the largest pile of guns you've ever seen and your unarmoured and agonizingly slow hordes will have the zombies manning Queen Bess salivating. You'll probably win the grind against the Zombies barring dumping a ton of magic or them hitting you with one of their big AoE spells, but this doesn't matter at all unless you win fast enough to get to the gunlines which is a huge ask for Nurgle. The Vampire Coast also has extremely powerful monsters and you are terrible at dealing with monsters and the only reason you might not see the RoR Necrofex in this match up is that the points limit is too small to fit both it and the Queen Bess. If you do see both, you are going to suffer. And the Coast sadly has enough of an airgame as well as sufficient dakka to pound your own fliers out of the sky. Like their landlubber counterparts, you have to watch out closely for Wind and Vortex spells; especially the Wind of Death which can instantly decide a melee fight and you're too slow to dodge reliably. Harkon on his pet bat are an absolute pain in the ass and you don't really have any answers to him.

	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Vampire Counts\| Vampire Counts]]''': Ah, a faction with fewer ranged options than you! A majority of their units exist to bog you down, something you're not entirely opposed to humoring them on. Just don't clump up for their casters to lay down a Winds of Death. This is generally a match up revolving around who can make better use of their hammer units in armies mostly comprised of anvils and who has better sense for when to use healing effects. Mortis engines and corpse carts should generally be your priority, as the Undead can come back from being knocked down and their ability to spread healing and buffs for their troops and cripple yours is nothing to scoff at. Ganking the Vampire Lord is generally a big ask due to lacking strong enough fliers to take on a zombie dragon or the terrorgheists and vargheists that usually accompany them, but it isn't impossible if you have the winds to spare for spirit leeches although this is probably a waste of WoMs. Don't even try to gank the Red Duke or a Blood Dragon lord though, your air units will only die tired. This is a match-up where the Great Unclean Ones come in handy due to the lack of reliable anti-large from the vampires and their lack of shooting.		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Vampire Counts\| Vampire Counts]]''': Ah, a faction with fewer ranged options than you! A majority of their units exist to bog you down, something you're not entirely opposed to humoring them on. Just don't clump up for their casters to lay down a Winds of Death. This is generally a match up revolving around who can make better use of their hammer units in armies mostly comprised of anvils and who has better sense for when to use healing effects. Mortis engines and corpse carts should generally be your priority, as the Undead can come back from being knocked down and their ability to spread healing and buffs for their troops and cripple yours is nothing to scoff at. Ganking the Vampire Lord is generally a big ask due to lacking strong enough fliers to take on a zombie dragon or the terrorgheists and vargheists that usually accompany them, but it isn't impossible if you have the winds to spare for spirit leeches although this is probably a waste of WoMs. Don't even try to gank the Red Duke or a Blood Dragon lord though, your air units will only die tired. This is a match-up where the Great Unclean Ones come in handy due to the lack of reliable anti-large from the vampires and their lack of shooting.

1d4chan>A Walrus: /* Legendary Heroes */

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Legendary Heroes

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	===Legendary Heroes===		===Legendary Heroes===
			None yet.

	===Generic Heroes===		===Generic Heroes===

1d4chan>A Walrus: /* Legendary Heroes */

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Legendary Heroes

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	===Legendary Heroes===		===Legendary Heroes===
	*'''Ku'gath Plaguefather''': Monster, Spellcaster and Nurgling hawking artillery piece all rolled into one disgusting packages.

	===Generic Heroes===		===Generic Heroes===

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	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Bretonnia\| Bretonnia]]''': Bretonnia struggles against large monsters and you've got plenty of those. You won't need much to win the infantry fight, so bring a bunch of nurglings and back them up with Beasts of Nurgle, Soul Grinders, Chaos Spawn, ore maybe even Great Unclean ones. Maybe grab a couple of Furies to swamp their archers as well. Watch as the knights charge into you again and again and you just heal the damage right back up. Eventually you'll wipe the floor with their peasants and then it's just a question of who outlasts who -- exactly the kind of engagement you like.		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Bretonnia\| Bretonnia]]''': Bretonnia struggles against large monsters and you've got plenty of those. You won't need much to win the infantry fight, so bring a bunch of nurglings and back them up with Beasts of Nurgle, Soul Grinders, Chaos Spawn, ore maybe even Great Unclean ones. Maybe grab a couple of Furies to swamp their archers as well. Watch as the knights charge into you again and again and you just heal the damage right back up. Eventually you'll wipe the floor with their peasants and then it's just a question of who outlasts who -- exactly the kind of engagement you like.

			*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Chaos Dwarfs\| Chaos Dwarfs]]''': Be prepared for a world of hurt. They are tanky, long range and have no shortage of fire based weapons to ruin your day with.

	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Daemons of Chaos\| Daemons of Chaos]]''':		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Daemons of Chaos\| Daemons of Chaos]]''':

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	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Tzeentch\|Tzeentch]]''': It's a safe bet that this will be a very unpleasant matchup for you. Tzeentch will control the skies, your fliers are no match for his even if he doesn't bring a flying lord of change. The plodding movement of most of your army means you won't be able to chase down Tzeentch's speedier units and keep them from abusing barrier regeneration with hit + run attacks. Worst of all, your enemy has access to an absurd amount of fire damage, so kiss goodbye to regeneration. Best advice is to suicide screen your army with nurglings and bring plague toads/pox riders to trap cycle chargers. Minimize losses by blocking with fodder, spreading out to reduce units hit by breath/vortex spells, camping in forests, and spamming fleshy abundance heals from the Lore of Nurgle. Winds of magic are a finite resource and Tzeentch's ranged units don't have much ammo so eventually he will have to close to melee and fight you in your element. You should have the game in the bag if you keep enough of your army alive.		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Tzeentch\|Tzeentch]]''': It's a safe bet that this will be a very unpleasant matchup for you. Tzeentch will control the skies, your fliers are no match for his even if he doesn't bring a flying lord of change. The plodding movement of most of your army means you won't be able to chase down Tzeentch's speedier units and keep them from abusing barrier regeneration with hit + run attacks. Worst of all, your enemy has access to an absurd amount of fire damage, so kiss goodbye to regeneration. Best advice is to suicide screen your army with nurglings and bring plague toads/pox riders to trap cycle chargers. Minimize losses by blocking with fodder, spreading out to reduce units hit by breath/vortex spells, camping in forests, and spamming fleshy abundance heals from the Lore of Nurgle. Winds of magic are a finite resource and Tzeentch's ranged units don't have much ammo so eventually he will have to close to melee and fight you in your element. You should have the game in the bag if you keep enough of your army alive.

	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Vampire Coast\| Vampire Coast]]''': The good news is that you do have tools against blobbed up infantry. The bad news is that you are target practice for the largest pile of guns you've ever seen and your unarmoured and agonizingly slow hordes will have the zombies manning Queen Bess salivating. You'll probably win the grind against the Zombies barring dumping a ton of magic or them hitting you with one of their big AoE spells, but this doesn't matter at all unless you win fast enough to get to the gunlines which is a huge ask for Nurgle. The Vampire Coast also has extremely powerful monsters and you are terrible at dealing with monsters and the only reason you might not see the RoR Necrofex in this match up is that the points limit is too small to fit both it and the Queen Bess. If you do see both, you are going to suffer. And the Coast sadly has enough of an airgame as well as ~~more than enough~~ dakka to pound your own fliers out of the sky. Like their landlubber counterparts, you have to watch out closely for Wind and Vortex spells; especially the Wind of Death which can instantly decide a melee fight and you're too slow to dodge reliably. Harkon on his pet bat are an absolute pain in the ass and you don't really have any answers to him.		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Vampire Coast\| Vampire Coast]]''': The good news is that you do have tools against blobbed up infantry. The bad news is that you are target practice for the largest pile of guns you've ever seen and your unarmoured and agonizingly slow hordes will have the zombies manning Queen Bess salivating. You'll probably win the grind against the Zombies barring dumping a ton of magic or them hitting you with one of their big AoE spells, but this doesn't matter at all unless you win fast enough to get to the gunlines which is a huge ask for Nurgle. The Vampire Coast also has extremely powerful monsters and you are terrible at dealing with monsters and the only reason you might not see the RoR Necrofex in this match up is that the points limit is too small to fit both it and the Queen Bess. If you do see both, you are going to suffer. And the Coast sadly has enough of an airgame as well as sufficient dakka to pound your own fliers out of the sky. Like their landlubber counterparts, you have to watch out closely for Wind and Vortex spells; especially the Wind of Death which can instantly decide a melee fight and you're too slow to dodge reliably. Harkon on his pet bat are an absolute pain in the ass and you don't really have any answers to him.

	*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Vampire Counts\| Vampire Counts]]''': Ah, a faction with fewer ranged options than you! A majority of their units exist to bog you down, something you're not entirely opposed to humoring them on. Just don't clump up for their casters to lay down a Winds of Death. This is generally a match up revolving around who can make better use of their hammer units in armies mostly comprised of anvils and who has better sense for when to use healing effects. Mortis engines and corpse carts should generally be your priority, as the Undead can come back from being knocked down and their ability to spread healing and buffs for their troops and cripple yours is nothing to scoff at. Ganking the Vampire Lord is generally a big ask due to lacking strong enough fliers to take on a zombie dragon or the terrorgheists and vargheists that usually accompany them, but it isn't impossible if you have the winds to spare for spirit leeches although this is probably a waste of WoMs. Don't even try to gank the Red Duke or a Blood Dragon lord though, your air units will only die tired. This is a match-up where the Great Unclean Ones come in handy due to the lack of reliable anti-large from the vampires and their lack of shooting.		*'''[[Total War Warhammer/Tactics/Vampire Counts\| Vampire Counts]]''': Ah, a faction with fewer ranged options than you! A majority of their units exist to bog you down, something you're not entirely opposed to humoring them on. Just don't clump up for their casters to lay down a Winds of Death. This is generally a match up revolving around who can make better use of their hammer units in armies mostly comprised of anvils and who has better sense for when to use healing effects. Mortis engines and corpse carts should generally be your priority, as the Undead can come back from being knocked down and their ability to spread healing and buffs for their troops and cripple yours is nothing to scoff at. Ganking the Vampire Lord is generally a big ask due to lacking strong enough fliers to take on a zombie dragon or the terrorgheists and vargheists that usually accompany them, but it isn't impossible if you have the winds to spare for spirit leeches although this is probably a waste of WoMs. Don't even try to gank the Red Duke or a Blood Dragon lord though, your air units will only die tired. This is a match-up where the Great Unclean Ones come in handy due to the lack of reliable anti-large from the vampires and their lack of shooting.