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Khatep

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	* The Sisters of Twilight are your best friends early on. Get a trade deal and non-agression pact with them. They'll help you in keeping Morathi and/or Malekith away from you for a bit, and be of great help when you want to take the fight to them.		* The Sisters of Twilight are your best friends early on. Get a trade deal and non-agression pact with them. They'll help you in keeping Morathi and/or Malekith away from you for a bit, and be of great help when you want to take the fight to them.
	* (Mortal Empires only:) The Sisters and Alith Anar may declare war on each other at some point, but they should leave you alone (and sign peace at some point). Between them, they'll keep Morathi busy long enough for you to focus on Malekith.		* (Mortal Empires only:) The Sisters and Alith Anar may declare war on each other at some point, but they should leave you alone (and sign peace at some point). Between them, they'll keep Morathi busy long enough for you to focus on Malekith.
	* (Mortal Empires:) Your very first turns should spent rushing south to grab the south ~~settlment~~ of your starting province, otherwise it'll be snatched by the Sisters and/or Alith Anar, leaving you with you one fewer town and no provincial order.		* (Mortal Empires:) Your very first turns should spent rushing south to grab the south settlement of your starting province, otherwise it'll be snatched by the Sisters and/or Alith Anar, leaving you with you one fewer town and no provincial order.
	* (Vortex:) No Alith Anar to help you here, so you're gonna need to beat up Morathi yourself. You can rush toward Quintex immediately or complete your province then rush to her if you want, but you need to take her out fast.		* (Vortex:) No Alith Anar to help you here, so you're gonna need to beat up Morathi yourself. You can rush toward Quintex immediately or complete your province then rush to her if you want, but you need to take her out fast.

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Settra

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	* Early on in the campaign you can get decent value from sword and board skellies when fighting other Tomb Kings or TikTaq'to's skinks, as the mosh pits are decided by morale victories more often than not.		* Early on in the campaign you can get decent value from sword and board skellies when fighting other Tomb Kings or TikTaq'to's skinks, as the mosh pits are decided by morale victories more often than not.
	* Conquering Zandri should be a top priority, since it gives you quick and easy access to a port that you can utilize for trade with factions that are half a continent away. And as mentioned above, trade is your life blood.		* Conquering Zandri should be a top priority, since it gives you quick and easy access to a port that you can utilize for trade with factions that are half a continent away. And as mentioned above, trade is your life blood.
	* The same goes for Galbaraz on Mortal Empires, which unlocks a unique building at tier 3 that gives a whopping 1000 gold per turn. The Badlands in general ~~for~~ full of amazing unique buildings for the Tomb Kings.		* The same goes for Galbaraz on Mortal Empires, which unlocks a unique building at tier 3 that gives a whopping 1000 gold per turn. The Badlands in general are full of amazing unique buildings for the Tomb Kings.
	* You have to decide very early on if you want to let the Errantry War factions live or destroy them, as Repanse is the only one not on friendly terms with you. After she confederates them, your western flank will have serious problems, unless you ally them.		* You have to decide very early on if you want to let the Errantry War factions live or destroy them, as Repanse is the only one not on friendly terms with you. After she confederates them, your western flank will have serious problems, unless you ally them.
	* If you have a spare army, send it to raiding duty at Nagash's Black Pyramid, which yields a nice 300-500 gold for free each turn. The Sentinels are hardcoded to never retaliate, so there is no harm whatsoever in doing so.		* If you have a spare army, send it to raiding duty at Nagash's Black Pyramid, which yields a nice 300-500 gold for free each turn. The Sentinels are hardcoded to never retaliate, so there is no harm whatsoever in doing so.

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General tips

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	* '''Global Recruitment will win you games''': The optimal start for any Tomb King is to fight whatever army is on your doorstep them immediately go into either your starting settlement or enter Entombed stance, either way you want access to Global Recruitment to spend the first 2 turns simply filling your army with troops ASAP in fact this is more important than fighting your starting enemy, if you have to choose one then choose global recruitment. Global recruitment takes twice as long but doesn't cost anything because you're playing Kangz, which is huge. Do this after a pyrrhic victory has wiped out most of the units in your army too and you'll refill your armies rapidly. Otherwise, it will take you too long to fill your armies and they AI will curbstomp you		* '''Global Recruitment will win you games''': The optimal start for any Tomb King is to fight whatever army is on your doorstep them immediately go into either your starting settlement or enter Entombed stance, either way you want access to Global Recruitment to spend the first 2 turns simply filling your army with troops ASAP in fact this is more important than fighting your starting enemy, if you have to choose one then choose global recruitment. Global recruitment takes twice as long but doesn't cost anything because you're playing Kangz, which is huge. Do this after a pyrrhic victory has wiped out most of the units in your army too and you'll refill your armies rapidly. Otherwise, it will take you too long to fill your armies and they AI will curbstomp you

	* '''Always build a resource building if you can''': The Tomb Kings's Mortuary Cult means that you will need access to at least one of each ~~ressource~~ building if you want to access the full range of things to create, parts of your victory condition requires you to craft things too. Which brings us to...		* '''Always build a resource building if you can''': The Tomb Kings's Mortuary Cult means that you will need access to at least one of each resource building if you want to access the full range of things to create, parts of your victory condition requires you to craft things too. Which brings us to...

	* '''Trade deals are your friends''': Let's not mince words, your economy is ''shit'', and while you don't pay upkeep or recruitment costs, your buildings are very expensives. You'll gain money raiding and fighting, but trade will also be an important part of your revenue stream. Also, it will give you access to resources you may not produce at the moment (good luck making wine in the middle of the fucking desert).		* '''Trade deals are your friends''': Let's not mince words, your economy is ''shit'', and while you don't pay upkeep or recruitment costs, your buildings are very expensives. You'll gain money raiding and fighting, but trade will also be an important part of your revenue stream. Also, it will give you access to resources you may not produce at the moment (good luck making wine in the middle of the fucking desert).
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	* '''Slow and steady win the race''' : You won't expand quickly. Whether it's because you need to wait to recruit more units in global recruitment, or until the place you've conquered is properly built up before pushing forward, this is not a campaign where you will be taking a city every turn. Tomb Kings rebellions are ''nasty'' if you let your Public Order get too low, so you'll also have that to keep in mind before moving on to conquering your next city.		* '''Slow and steady win the race''' : You won't expand quickly. Whether it's because you need to wait to recruit more units in global recruitment, or until the place you've conquered is properly built up before pushing forward, this is not a campaign where you will be taking a city every turn. Tomb Kings rebellions are ''nasty'' if you let your Public Order get too low, so you'll also have that to keep in mind before moving on to conquering your next city.

	* '''Keep your starting construct:''' While everyone in the games start with a high-tier unit in their army, you can usually manage if you lose them. Not so much here, in line with the above points. Each Legendary Lord start with a construct in their army (Khatep with a Hierotitan, Arkhan with a Tomb Scorpion, Settra with a ~~Khermrian~~ Warsphinx, Khalida with Sepulchral Stalkers). You will not be able to replace them for a ''long'' time if you ever lose them, what's with Tomb Kings' incredibly low growth rate and money problems, and they are incredibly useful until you reach tier IV.		* '''Keep your starting construct:''' While everyone in the games start with a high-tier unit in their army, you can usually manage if you lose them. Not so much here, in line with the above points. Each Legendary Lord start with a construct in their army (Khatep with a Hierotitan, Arkhan with a Tomb Scorpion, Settra with a Khemrian Warsphinx, Khalida with Sepulchral Stalkers). You will not be able to replace them for a ''long'' time if you ever lose them, what's with Tomb Kings' incredibly low growth rate and money problems, and they are incredibly useful until you reach tier IV.

	===Specific campaigns advices===		===Specific campaigns advices===

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	===General tips===		===General tips===
	* '''Global Recruitment will win you games''': The optimal start for any Tomb King is to fight whatever army is on your doorstep them immediately go into either your starting settlement or enter Entombed stance, either way you want access to Global Recruitment to spend the first 2 turns simply filling your army with troops ASAP in fact this is more important than fighting your starting enemy, if you have to choose one then choose global recruitment. Global recruitment takes twice as long but doesn't cost anything because you're playing Kangz, which is huge. Do this after a ~~pyric~~ victory has wiped out most of the units in your army too and you'll refill your armies rapidly. Otherwise, it will take you too long to fill your armies and they AI will curbstomp you		* '''Global Recruitment will win you games''': The optimal start for any Tomb King is to fight whatever army is on your doorstep them immediately go into either your starting settlement or enter Entombed stance, either way you want access to Global Recruitment to spend the first 2 turns simply filling your army with troops ASAP in fact this is more important than fighting your starting enemy, if you have to choose one then choose global recruitment. Global recruitment takes twice as long but doesn't cost anything because you're playing Kangz, which is huge. Do this after a pyrrhic victory has wiped out most of the units in your army too and you'll refill your armies rapidly. Otherwise, it will take you too long to fill your armies and they AI will curbstomp you

	* '''Always build a resource building if you can''': The Tomb Kings's Mortuary Cult means that you will need access to at least one of each ressource building if you want to access the full range of things to create, parts of your victory condition requires you to craft things too. Which brings us to...		* '''Always build a resource building if you can''': The Tomb Kings's Mortuary Cult means that you will need access to at least one of each ressource building if you want to access the full range of things to create, parts of your victory condition requires you to craft things too. Which brings us to...

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Faction Counterplay

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Faction Counterplay

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	*'''Bretonnia''' - Poor Bretonnia, having to fight a faction full of cheap AP anti-large undead blocks with monsters that will easily chew up their glorious knights. The Tomb Kings are positively terrifying in this matchup as you have plenty of tools to make those Bretonnian knights regret looting your tombs. The only real problems are their cheap flaming Longbowmen and hard-hitting Trebuchets, but even then it's not like they can threaten your constructs that badly. Your opponent may attempt to push home a charge on a weak flank or cycle-charge your infantry into oblivion - don't let them get away with it! Pin them down with Net of Amyntok or your Ushabti summon and punish them suitably.		*'''Bretonnia''' - Poor Bretonnia, having to fight a faction full of cheap AP anti-large undead blocks with monsters that will easily chew up their glorious knights. The Tomb Kings are positively terrifying in this matchup as you have plenty of tools to make those Bretonnian knights regret looting your tombs. The only real problems are their cheap flaming Longbowmen and hard-hitting Trebuchets, but even then it's not like they can threaten your constructs that badly. Your opponent may attempt to push home a charge on a weak flank or cycle-charge your infantry into oblivion - don't let them get away with it! Pin them down with Net of Amyntok or your Ushabti summon and punish them suitably.

	*'''[[Total_War_Warhammer/Tactics/Chaos_Dwarves\| Chaos Dwarfs]]''': Just give up. Chaos Dwarfs will destroy your lines with their superior artillery, and good luck relying on your constructs to get anything done if the chorf player knows how to screen their blunderbusses. Also all your heals will be be worth jack shit with the absurd amount of fire damage they have. Probably better to just hope your opponent doesn't know how to play the game. If you're intent on playing this out, maybe get a Bone Giant to snipe their artillery, Settra on his chariot, and try a mass chariot rush? Tomb Scorpion might also be mobile enough to break into the ranged stuff without getting eviscerated, and Ushabti Greatbow RoR could put pressure on ~~ironsword~~ or ~~fireglaives~~ if they don't get melted by Lore of Hashut. In campaign try cowardly cheese tactics with your ~~liche priests~~ and necroknights. In multiplayer, just try to get in a little trolling before you die horribly.		*'''[[Total_War_Warhammer/Tactics/Chaos_Dwarves\| Chaos Dwarfs]]''': Just give up. Chaos Dwarfs will destroy your lines with their superior artillery, and good luck relying on your constructs to get anything done if the chorf player knows how to screen their blunderbusses. Also all your heals will be be worth jack shit with the absurd amount of fire damage they have. Probably better to just hope your opponent doesn't know how to play the game. If you're intent on playing this out, maybe get a Bone Giant to snipe their artillery, Settra on his chariot, and try a mass chariot rush? Tomb Scorpion might also be mobile enough to break into the ranged stuff without getting eviscerated, and Ushabti Greatbow RoR could put pressure on Ironsworn or Fireglaives if they don't get melted by Lore of Hashut. In campaign try cowardly cheese tactics with your Liche Priests and necroknights. In multiplayer, just try to get in a little trolling before you die horribly.

	*'''Grand Cathay''' -		*'''Grand Cathay''' -

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Faction Counterplay

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	*'''Bretonnia''' - Poor Bretonnia, having to fight a faction full of cheap AP anti-large undead blocks with monsters that will easily chew up their glorious knights. The Tomb Kings are positively terrifying in this matchup as you have plenty of tools to make those Bretonnian knights regret looting your tombs. The only real problems are their cheap flaming Longbowmen and hard-hitting Trebuchets, but even then it's not like they can threaten your constructs that badly. Your opponent may attempt to push home a charge on a weak flank or cycle-charge your infantry into oblivion - don't let them get away with it! Pin them down with Net of Amyntok or your Ushabti summon and punish them suitably.		*'''Bretonnia''' - Poor Bretonnia, having to fight a faction full of cheap AP anti-large undead blocks with monsters that will easily chew up their glorious knights. The Tomb Kings are positively terrifying in this matchup as you have plenty of tools to make those Bretonnian knights regret looting your tombs. The only real problems are their cheap flaming Longbowmen and hard-hitting Trebuchets, but even then it's not like they can threaten your constructs that badly. Your opponent may attempt to push home a charge on a weak flank or cycle-charge your infantry into oblivion - don't let them get away with it! Pin them down with Net of Amyntok or your Ushabti summon and punish them suitably.

	*'''[[Total_War_Warhammer/Tactics/Chaos_Dwarves\| Chaos Dwarfs]]''': Just give up. Chaos Dwarfs will destroy your lines with their superior artillery, and good luck relying on your constructs to get anything done if the chorf player knows how to screen their blunderbusses. Also all your heals will be be worth jack shit with the absurd amount of fire damage they have. Probably better to just hope your opponent doesn't know how to play the game. If you're intent on playing this out, maybe get a Bone Giant to snipe their artillery, Settra on his chariot, and try a mass chariot rush? Tomb Scorpion might also be mobile enough to break into the ranged stuff without getting eviscerated, and Ushabti ~~greatbow~~ RoR could put pressure on ironsword or fireglaives if they don't get melted by Lore of Hashut. In campaign try cowardly cheese tactics with your liche priests and necroknights. In multiplayer, just try to get in a little trolling before you die horribly.		*'''[[Total_War_Warhammer/Tactics/Chaos_Dwarves\| Chaos Dwarfs]]''': Just give up. Chaos Dwarfs will destroy your lines with their superior artillery, and good luck relying on your constructs to get anything done if the chorf player knows how to screen their blunderbusses. Also all your heals will be be worth jack shit with the absurd amount of fire damage they have. Probably better to just hope your opponent doesn't know how to play the game. If you're intent on playing this out, maybe get a Bone Giant to snipe their artillery, Settra on his chariot, and try a mass chariot rush? Tomb Scorpion might also be mobile enough to break into the ranged stuff without getting eviscerated, and Ushabti Greatbow RoR could put pressure on ironsword or fireglaives if they don't get melted by Lore of Hashut. In campaign try cowardly cheese tactics with your liche priests and necroknights. In multiplayer, just try to get in a little trolling before you die horribly.

	*'''Grand Cathay''' -		*'''Grand Cathay''' -

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Faction Counterplay

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	A list of all the other factions in the game, alongside their various strengths, weaknesses, and best strategies you have to combat them.		A list of all the other factions in the game, alongside their various strengths, weaknesses, and best strategies you have to combat them.

	*'''Beastmen''' - Leave the Tomb Guard at home; most likely the Beastmen will bring lots of ~~ungors~~ and your skeletons can handle them just fine. They'll also bring Centigors with throwing axes and possibly Ghorgons to fight your constructs, so invest in some Skeleton Horsemen who can whittle down their low-armor hides with arrows as they try to get into position. If any big monsters or cavalry do threaten your ranged units Sepulchral Stalkers can provide a nasty surprise for them.		*'''Beastmen''' - Leave the Tomb Guard at home; most likely the Beastmen will bring lots of Ungors and your skeletons can handle them just fine. They'll also bring Centigors with throwing axes and possibly Ghorgons to fight your constructs, so invest in some Skeleton Horsemen who can whittle down their low-armor hides with arrows as they try to get into position. If any big monsters or cavalry do threaten your ranged units, Sepulchral Stalkers can provide a nasty surprise for them.

	*'''Bretonnia''' - Poor Bretonnia, having to fight a faction full of cheap AP anti-large undead blocks with monsters that will easily chew up their glorious knights. The Tomb Kings are positively terrifying in this matchup as you have plenty of tools to make those Bretonnian knights regret looting your tombs. The only real problems are their cheap flaming Longbowmen and hard-hitting Trebuchets, but even then it's not like they can threaten your constructs that badly. Your opponent may attempt to push home a charge on a weak flank or cycle-charge your infantry into oblivion - don't let them get away with it! Pin them down with Net of Amyntok or your Ushabti summon and punish them suitably.		*'''Bretonnia''' - Poor Bretonnia, having to fight a faction full of cheap AP anti-large undead blocks with monsters that will easily chew up their glorious knights. The Tomb Kings are positively terrifying in this matchup as you have plenty of tools to make those Bretonnian knights regret looting your tombs. The only real problems are their cheap flaming Longbowmen and hard-hitting Trebuchets, but even then it's not like they can threaten your constructs that badly. Your opponent may attempt to push home a charge on a weak flank or cycle-charge your infantry into oblivion - don't let them get away with it! Pin them down with Net of Amyntok or your Ushabti summon and punish them suitably.

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Monstrous Constructs

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	*'''[[Necrosphinx]]:''' THE monster-slaying monster in the game with a wide array of traits specifically designed to let the Necrosphinx mulch other large monsters with ease. Has unusually low Leadership so keep a lord or hero nearby to keep them in the fight.		*'''[[Necrosphinx]]:''' THE monster-slaying monster in the game with a wide array of traits specifically designed to let the Necrosphinx mulch other large monsters with ease. Has unusually low Leadership so keep a lord or hero nearby to keep them in the fight.

	**'''The Sphinx of Usekph (~~ROR~~):''' turn the monster killer into a greater monster killer. Higher stats with magic and ~~Flameattacks~~ to punish Regenerating monsters. On the same note not recommended against monsters with flame resistance like ~~high elf phoenixes~~.		**'''The Sphinx of Usekph (RoR):''' turn the monster killer into a greater monster killer. Higher stats with magic and Flame attacks to punish Regenerating monsters. On the same note not recommended against monsters with flame resistance like High Elf Phoenixes.

	*'''[[Hierotitan]]:''' An unusual large single construct that, despite being magnificent in almost every regard, is really only suited to a select number of army compositions. Gives a generous boost to Winds of Magic, in addition, its bound spells has FRICKIN EYE LASER BEAMS as a basic attack and is the perfect instrument for terrorizing any poor foot soldier that gets in its way. On the flipside is horribly slow and usually a [[DISTRACTION CARNIFEX\|priority artillery target]] for your enemy.		*'''[[Hierotitan]]:''' An unusual large single construct that, despite being magnificent in almost every regard, is really only suited to a select number of army compositions. Gives a generous boost to Winds of Magic, in addition, its bound spells has FRICKIN EYE LASER BEAMS as a basic attack and is the perfect instrument for terrorizing any poor foot soldier that gets in its way. On the flipside is horribly slow and usually a [[DISTRACTION CARNIFEX\|priority artillery target]] for your enemy.