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Main Guys

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	**'''Galvatron''':Whenever there is a Megatron there is a Galvatron. He's everything you love about the M taken up to eleven. This guy is seriously bad news, he's probably insane and violent enough to give Doombreed pause and he's probably the strongest non-god transformer there is in G1 comics it takes a friggin' time vortex to finally put him down. After a dying Megatron found himself adrift in space, he had a lovely chat with the Cybertronian physical god Unicron, who reconstructed him into this indentity. Didn't work for long though; Galvy kind of went off the rails pretty quickly.		**'''Galvatron''':Whenever there is a Megatron there is a Galvatron. He's everything you love about the M taken up to eleven. This guy is seriously bad news, he's probably insane and violent enough to give Doombreed pause and he's probably the strongest non-god transformer there is in G1 comics it takes a friggin' time vortex to finally put him down. After a dying Megatron found himself adrift in space, he had a lovely chat with the Cybertronian physical god Unicron, who reconstructed him into this indentity. Didn't work for long though; Galvy kind of went off the rails pretty quickly.

	*'''Bumblebee''': The yellow kid-friendly one, he's usually the main one to interact with the resident token humans. He usually turns into a sports car. Can be surprisingly badass in some adaptations -- his ''Beast Wars'' counterpart, Cheetor, went on to basically take Optimus Primal's place as leader of the Maximals in ''Beast Machines''. In the Michael Bay movies, he became a mute who talks only in radio quotes/beeps and boops like a 60s robot which <s>just got ANNOYING</s> is kinda cool. His Prime Counterpart retained the mute quirk, but his voicebox was eventually repaired by the time of the sequel series. Then he starred in a prequel film which was so awesome, Hasbro decided to just reboot the Transformers film franchise. Way to go, little guy!		*'''Bumblebee''': The yellow kid-friendly one, he's usually the main one to interact with the resident token humans. He usually turns into a compact or sports car depending on if they want to portray them as the cute kid or the young hero growing up. Can be surprisingly badass in some adaptations -- his ''Beast Wars'' counterpart, Cheetor, went on to basically take Optimus Primal's place as leader of the Maximals in ''Beast Machines''. In the Michael Bay movies, he became a mute who talks only in radio quotes/beeps and boops like a 60s robot which <s>just got ANNOYING</s> is kinda cool. His Prime Counterpart retained the mute quirk, but his voicebox was eventually repaired by the time of the sequel series. Then he starred in a prequel film which was so awesome, Hasbro decided to just reboot the Transformers film franchise. Way to go, little guy!

	*'''Ironhide''': Optimus's number one in most storylines. He's typically an older bot, and a little hotheaded, always ready to bust some decepti-chops. Usually transforms into a van or pickup of some kind.		*'''Ironhide''': Optimus's number one in most storylines. He's typically an older bot, and a little hotheaded, always ready to bust some decepti-chops. Usually transforms into a van or pickup of some kind.

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Brave Series

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	==Brave Series==		==Brave Series==

	Of minor note(as far as this page is concerned, anyway) is the franchise Takara made ''after'' Generation 1's Japanese run finished. Making a deal with Sunrise(the makers of the [[Gundam]] anime, the Brave(Yuusha) series began in 1990 with ''Brave Exkaiser'', and continued until 1997's ''King of Braves GaoGaiGar'', which received an OAV finale in 2000, and a Web Novel sequel running from 2016-2021.		Of minor note(as far as this page is concerned, anyway) is the franchise Takara made ''after'' Generation 1's Japanese run finished. Making a deal with Sunrise(the makers of the [[Gundam]] anime), the Brave(Yuusha) series began in 1990 with ''Brave Exkaiser'', and continued until 1997's ''King of Braves GaoGaiGar'', which received an OAV finale in 2000, and a Web Novel sequel running from 2016-2021.

	A series of Super Robot anime, the Brave series is notable here for the common recurring elements of intelligent transforming robots that often fought alongside or even ''as'' the Hero's mecha. Some were aliens, others built on Earth. But nearly all of them could easily be lost in a lineup of G1 Transformers in appearance (and the Autobots in general). So if you see a group of Transformer-looking robots that ''aren't'' Transformers, it's probably one of them.		A series of Super Robot anime, the Brave series is notable here for the common recurring elements of intelligent transforming robots that often fought alongside or even ''as'' the Hero's mecha. Some were aliens, others built on Earth. But nearly all of them could easily be lost in a lineup of G1 Transformers in appearance (and the Autobots in general). So if you see a group of Transformer-looking robots that ''aren't'' Transformers, it's probably one of them.

	== See Also ==		== See Also ==

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	* [[Transformers Roleplaying Game]]		* [[Transformers Roleplaying Game]]
	An official Transformers RPG has been licensed by Hasbro through a company called Renegade Game Studios using their EssenceD20 system. It released in March 2022, learning from some of the inconsistences from its Hasbro predecessors, the Power Rangers and G.I. Joe games, both of which used the same engine. The engine works by having d20+Stat, but you also add another dice to the roll based on your training in a certain skill, so you can have a roll of d20+3+d6 to beat a DC 14. So far, the response seems to be decent, giving you a bit of freedom in determining personalities, alt-modes, gear and classes with two differing paths.		An official Transformers RPG has been licensed by Hasbro through a company called Renegade Game Studios using their EssenceD20 system. It released in March 2022, learning from some of the inconsistences from its Hasbro predecessors, the Power Rangers and G.I. Joe games, both of which used the same engine. The engine works by having d20+Stat, but you also add another dice to the roll based on your training in a certain skill, so you can have a roll of d20+3+d6 to beat a DC 14. So far, the response seems to be decent, giving you a bit of freedom in determining personalities, alt-modes, gear and classes with two differing paths.

			==Brave Series==

			Of minor note(as far as this page is concerned, anyway) is the franchise Takara made ''after'' Generation 1's Japanese run finished. Making a deal with Sunrise(the makers of the [[Gundam]] anime, the Brave(Yuusha) series began in 1990 with ''Brave Exkaiser'', and continued until 1997's ''King of Braves GaoGaiGar'', which received an OAV finale in 2000, and a Web Novel sequel running from 2016-2021.

			A series of Super Robot anime, the Brave series is notable here for the common recurring elements of intelligent transforming robots that often fought alongside or even ''as'' the Hero's mecha. Some were aliens, others built on Earth. But nearly all of them could easily be lost in a lineup of G1 Transformers in appearance (and the Autobots in general). So if you see a group of Transformer-looking robots that ''aren't'' Transformers, it's probably one of them.

	== See Also ==		== See Also ==

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Cybertronian Races

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	*'''Triple Changers+''': Triple changers are usually treated as special troops in fiction, having multiple forms suited to different tasks. The g1 triple changers usually had one land and one air based mode, but individuals like Broadside buck the trend entirely. Transforming Into an aircraft carrier, one has to question if it's in scale with his jet mode. Beyond triple changers there exists Six changers, who possess six modes! But Beyond two or three of them the rest are a stretch. You call that a tank? And then beyond that there's RID2001 galvatron who had around 11.		*'''Triple Changers+''': Triple changers are usually treated as special troops in fiction, having multiple forms suited to different tasks. The g1 triple changers usually had one land and one air based mode, but individuals like Broadside buck the trend entirely. Transforming Into an aircraft carrier, one has to question if it's in scale with his jet mode. Beyond triple changers there exists Six changers, who possess six modes! But Beyond two or three of them the rest are a stretch. You call that a tank? And then beyond that there's RID2001 galvatron who had around 11.

	*'''Titans''': The biggest you can go before you reach planet scale, these guys are usually between the size of a couple city blocks to the size of Manhattan. If you needed a robot to wrestle a tarrasque, they would work handily. Notably, with the Titans Returns Series & Toyline, these guys became giant cities that fly through space, kind of like a smallish ~~eldar craft world~~.		*'''Titans/Cityformers''': The biggest you can go before you reach planet scale, these guys are usually between the size of a couple city blocks to the size of Manhattan. If you needed a robot to wrestle a tarrasque, they would work handily. Notably, with the Titans Returns Series & Toyline, these guys became giant cities that fly through space, kind of like a smallish [[Eldar]] craftworld.

	*'''Minicons''': These were introduced in ''Transformers: Armada'', and despite the mixed reception that series got, the toyline as a whole has embraced them wholeheartedly. Minicons are similar to Powermasters in that they can power-up a bigger bot by attaching to it, but usually have actual vehicle alt-modes(albeit without the size-changing, so a Minicon who transforms into a truck will become a tiny three-foot-long truck) instead of simply turning into components. Some groups can combine into gestalt robots or even powerful weapons~~. After the trilogy, many toylines use Minicons as Head- or Targetmaster partners~~.		*'''Minicons''': These were introduced in ''Transformers: Armada'', and despite the mixed reception that series got, the toyline as a whole has embraced them wholeheartedly, using them normally or as Head- or Targetmaster partners. Minicons are similar to Powermasters in that they can power-up a bigger bot by attaching to it, but usually have actual vehicle alt-modes(albeit without the size-changing, so a Minicon who transforms into a truck will become a tiny three-foot-long truck) instead of simply turning into components. Some groups can combine into gestalt robots or even powerful weapons.

	==Generation One==		==Generation One==

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	*'''Combiners/Gestalts''': When a daddy TF and a Mommy tf love each other very much....these guys are the result of multiple Transformers (between 2-infinity) becoming one guy. The classic combiners from g1 were usually 5 guys all themed around a certain theme such as planes, Military (How TF a spaceship fits a military theme is anyone's guess) or racing. This power up carries with it some unfortunate side effects, akin to retardation, schizophrenia, or other forms of mental disease. In games or series this can translate to a weakness the enemies can exploit, usually via Taunts. The fewer parts in a Combiner can also help.		*'''Combiners/Gestalts''': When a daddy TF and a Mommy tf love each other very much....these guys are the result of multiple Transformers (between 2-infinity) becoming one guy. The classic combiners from g1 were usually 5 guys all themed around a certain theme such as planes, Military (How TF a spaceship fits a military theme is anyone's guess) or racing. This power up carries with it some unfortunate side effects, akin to retardation, schizophrenia, or other forms of mental disease. In games or series this can translate to a weakness the enemies can exploit, usually via Taunts. The fewer parts in a Combiner can also help.
	** The smallest known combiner/gestalts are the "fuser" type Transformers, which consist of two Transformers who can merge into a single form together. Dreadwind and Darkwing, G1 Decepticon Powermaster jets who can fuse into a super-jet, are old-school examples, ~~but~~ TF:Animated's Jetfire & Jetstorm have them beat by fusing into a super-jet that can then become its own ultra-robot, Safeguard.		** The smallest known combiner/gestalts are the "fuser" type Transformers, which consist of two Transformers who can merge into a single form together. Dreadwind and Darkwing, G1 Decepticon Powermaster jets who can fuse into a super-jet, are old-school examples, while the Unicron Trilogy had a number of characters (such as their verisons of Jetfire and Ironhide) that could combine with one robot forming an upper body and the other the legs. But TF:Animated's Jetfire & Jetstorm have them beat by fusing into a super-jet that can then become its own ultra-robot, Safeguard.
	** The awkwardly-named '''Multi-Component Transformers''' are kind of a reverse of the Combiner, being a singular Cybertronic intelligence that can split into two (or sometimes more) independently functioning alternate modes. Sky Lynx, who can be either a shuttle, a mechanical dragon, or a robo-bird AND a robo-panther at the same time, is the most recognized old-school example of this branch, but the toyline had others, even a two-bot Decepticon miniteam called the Duocons who had this as their central gimmick.		** The awkwardly-named '''Multi-Component Transformers''' are kind of a reverse of the Combiner, being a singular Cybertronic intelligence that can split into two (or sometimes more) independently functioning alternate modes. Sky Lynx, who can be either a shuttle, a mechanical dragon, or a robo-bird AND a robo-panther at the same time, is the most recognized old-school example of this branch, but the toyline had others, even a two-bot Decepticon miniteam called the Duocons who had this as their central gimmick.
	*'''Headmaster and Targetmasters''': This variation on combiners has smaller ~~humans~~, or in ~~the case of the Japanese show smaller robots~~, ~~forming~~ the ~~heads when in~~ robot ~~mode. Targetmasters, instead of forming the~~ head~~, change into a~~ gun. Hey does this make Megatron a Targetmaster?		*'''Headmaster and Targetmasters''': This variation on combiners has smaller robots, or human(oid)s in what is essentially power armor, that transform into the larger robot's head or primary gun. Hey does this make Megatron a Targetmaster?
	**'''Powermasters/Godmasters''': A variant of the Headmaster/Targetmaster, in this case the smaller guy turns into an engine, which not only can supercharge the performance of their bigger buddy, but also ''has'' to interlink with them before they can actually transform.		**'''Powermasters/Godmasters''': A variant of the Headmaster/Targetmaster, in this case the smaller guy turns into an engine, which not only can supercharge the performance of their bigger buddy, but also ''has'' to interlink with them before they can actually transform.

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	*'''Titans''': The biggest you can go before you reach planet scale, these guys are usually between the size of a couple city blocks to the size of Manhattan. If you needed a robot to wrestle a tarrasque, they would work handily. Notably, with the Titans Returns Series & Toyline, these guys became giant cities that fly through space, kind of like a smallish eldar craft world.		*'''Titans''': The biggest you can go before you reach planet scale, these guys are usually between the size of a couple city blocks to the size of Manhattan. If you needed a robot to wrestle a tarrasque, they would work handily. Notably, with the Titans Returns Series & Toyline, these guys became giant cities that fly through space, kind of like a smallish eldar craft world.

	*'''Minicons''': These were introduced in ''Transformers: Armada'', and despite the mixed reception that series got, the toyline as a whole has embraced them wholeheartedly. Minicons are similar to Powermasters in that they can power-up a bigger bot by attaching to it, but usually have actual vehicle alt-modes(albeit without the size-changing, so a Minicon who transforms into a truck will become a tiny three-foot-long truck) instead of simply turning into components. ~~But there are Minicons that have a third mode, which is typically a Targetmaster-like weapon, though some~~ can combine into gestalt robots or even ~~more~~ powerful weapons.		*'''Minicons''': These were introduced in ''Transformers: Armada'', and despite the mixed reception that series got, the toyline as a whole has embraced them wholeheartedly. Minicons are similar to Powermasters in that they can power-up a bigger bot by attaching to it, but usually have actual vehicle alt-modes(albeit without the size-changing, so a Minicon who transforms into a truck will become a tiny three-foot-long truck) instead of simply turning into components. Some groups can combine into gestalt robots or even powerful weapons. After the trilogy, many toylines use Minicons as Head- or Targetmaster partners.

	==Generation One==		==Generation One==

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Beast Wars

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	Though Hasbro would mostly consign this story to oblivion after Beast Machines, the characters of Blackarachnia (sexy spider-bot who changes from evil to good thanks to love) and Waspinator (the walking punching bag who the heroes almost invariably blow up only to be fixed later), along with the concept of the Spark (essentially, Transformers' souls) would be re-used in later eras. More importantly, this show saved the franchise after Generation 2 almost killed it.		Though Hasbro would mostly consign this story to oblivion after Beast Machines, the characters of Blackarachnia (sexy spider-bot who changes from evil to good thanks to love) and Waspinator (the walking punching bag who the heroes almost invariably blow up only to be fixed later), along with the concept of the Spark (essentially, Transformers' souls) would be re-used in later eras. More importantly, this show saved the franchise after Generation 2 almost killed it.

			There's also a Beast Wars II in Japan, but it has absolutely no ties to the original, with a Lio Convoy sharing only physical similarities with Primal and a Galvatron that looks like some sort of dragon but isn't related to either Megatron.

	==Beast Machines==		==Beast Machines==

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Main Guys

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	*'''Soundwave''': A major character for the Decepticons as Megatron's legitimately loyal number two. Is also the biggest source of nostalgia because he turns into a fucking tapedeck. <strike>Even though he lacks a personality</strike>'''SOUNDWAVE SUPERIOR; PAGE WRITER INFERIOR''', he manages to be awesome merely through dogged determination and because he's the one guy who'll never give anyone any bullshit. He has a number of minions who turn into cassettes (or goddamn guitars in Animated's case), but the main ones are '''Rumble''' (Whose arms turn into piledrivers so he can cause earthquakes), '''Frenzy''' (Who has a sonic scream), '''Ravage''' (A fucking robot jaguar who turns into a cassette), '''Laserbeak''' and '''Buzzsaw''' (robot birds), and '''Ratbat''' (a robot bat). The IDW comic gave him an origin about how he used to be homeless due to his mind reading powers until Laserbeak and Ravage found him and helped him control them. In the Marvel G1 comics he acted as toady to whichever Decepticon had usurped Megatron that month while steadily scheming to increase his own power, making him like Starscream but actually competent. He also spoke in complete sentences and had a functioning mouth.		*'''Soundwave''': A major character for the Decepticons as Megatron's legitimately loyal number two. Is also the biggest source of nostalgia because he turns into a fucking tapedeck. <strike>Even though he lacks a personality</strike>'''SOUNDWAVE SUPERIOR; PAGE WRITER INFERIOR''', he manages to be awesome merely through dogged determination and because he's the one guy who'll never give anyone any bullshit. He has a number of minions who turn into cassettes (or goddamn guitars in Animated's case), but the main ones are '''Rumble''' (Whose arms turn into piledrivers so he can cause earthquakes), '''Frenzy''' (Who has a sonic scream), '''Ravage''' (A fucking robot jaguar who turns into a cassette), '''Laserbeak''' and '''Buzzsaw''' (robot birds), and '''Ratbat''' (a robot bat). The IDW comic gave him an origin about how he used to be homeless due to his mind reading powers until Laserbeak and Ravage found him and helped him control them. In the Marvel G1 comics he acted as toady to whichever Decepticon had usurped Megatron that month while steadily scheming to increase his own power, making him like Starscream but actually competent. He also spoke in complete sentences and had a functioning mouth.

	*'''Shockwave''': The real mad scientist of the Decepticons, whose arm is a gun and also turned into a gun in G1 (a giant flying gun)(Modern incarnations either turn him into a tank like Megatron, or a flying vehicle with a huge gun stuck on the front). While he's also pretty loyal to Megatron, he's nowhere near Soundwave levels because his true loyalty is to pure logic. There are several times where he became a bigger threat than Megatron, requiring both Autobots and Decepticons to stop him. Most series have him involved with the Dinobots, either by creating them, or just they have major beef with him (he doesn't give a shit as he has better things to do). He's another guy who happened to be blessed by [[Steve Blum]] in the Cybertron series. The IDW comics gave him an origin about how he used to be an idealistic Noblebright senator (and Optimus' BFF) until he got unpersoned and mutilated by the corrupt Cybertronian government. Ouch. His Prime adaptation is fucking badass and intimidating, both in voice work and design, but unfortunately he suffers from Villain Incompetence Syndrome whenever the good guys show up, like so many other good bad guys.		*'''Shockwave''': The real mad scientist of the Decepticons, whose arm is a gun and also turned into a gun in G1 (a giant flying gun)(Modern incarnations either turn him into a tank like Megatron, or a flying vehicle with a huge gun stuck on the front). While he's also pretty loyal to Megatron, he's nowhere near Soundwave levels because his true loyalty is to pure logic. The three watchwords for him are Brilliant, Competent, and Utterly Amoral. There are several times where he became a bigger threat than Megatron, requiring both Autobots and Decepticons to stop him. Most series have him involved with the Dinobots, either by creating them, or just they have major beef with him (he doesn't give a shit as he has better things to do). He's another guy who happened to be blessed by [[Steve Blum]] in the Cybertron series. The IDW comics gave him an origin about how he used to be an idealistic Noblebright senator (and Optimus' BFF) until he got unpersoned and mutilated by the corrupt Cybertronian government. Ouch. His Prime adaptation is fucking badass and intimidating, both in voice work and design, but unfortunately he suffers from Villain Incompetence Syndrome whenever the good guys show up, like so many other good bad guys.

	*'''Unicron''': Unicron was originally introduced as the big bad for the '86 movie, a planet-sized, planet-eating bringer of doom (basically, if Galactus was the Death Star), voiced by ''the'' Orson Welles in his last role. The third season episode "Call of the Primitives" revealed his original, long since abandoned, origin as a planet-destroying creation of an alien mad scientist. Later media, beginning with the Marvel comics, changed his origin to Transformers' Satan, a god-like destroyer tricked into trapping himself inside a planet, but learned how to possess the world and reshape it into his own image. That fucking anime trilogy not only pulled this interpretation back, but made it "official", saying there's only one Unicron in the entire multiverse - at least, they tried. The comics pay more attention to it, but the shows tend to avoid it; witness Prime, where Unicron is actually sleeping at the heart of Earth instead of running around eating planets.		*'''Unicron''': Unicron was originally introduced as the big bad for the '86 movie, a planet-sized, planet-eating bringer of doom (basically, if Galactus was the Death Star), voiced by ''the'' Orson Welles in his last role. The third season episode "Call of the Primitives" revealed his original, long since abandoned, origin as a planet-destroying creation of an alien mad scientist. Later media, beginning with the Marvel comics, changed his origin to Transformers' Satan, a god-like destroyer tricked into trapping himself inside a planet, but learned how to possess the world and reshape it into his own image. That fucking anime trilogy not only pulled this interpretation back, but made it "official", saying there's only one Unicron in the entire multiverse - at least, they tried. The comics pay more attention to it, but the shows tend to avoid it; witness Prime, where Unicron is actually sleeping at the heart of Earth instead of running around eating planets.

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Energon Trilogy

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	==Energon Trilogy==		==Energon Trilogy==
	Comprised of the shows ''Armada'', ''Energon'', and ''Cybertron'', which are also called the ''Unicron Trilogy'' due to the antagonist's return to the spotlight after being virtually nonexistent since The Movie. Anime reinterpretation of G1, decaying from "poor but watchable" to "completely unwatchable drek" for all the reasons people hate [[/a/]]: bad dubbing(though many people did like Gary Chalk'~~s rendition of Optimus~~), overly lengthy scenes of nothing, a shift to crappy CGI, and a plot that is so terribly paced and search-questy that you'd be praying for your GM to be railroading this. On the plus-side: competent badass Starscream (who unfortunately inspired a whole generation of [[Edgy\|Linkin Park listening wannabes]]). On the downside: far too much focus on humans and not enough on giant robots trying to kill each other. Kicker, from the later series, is considered one of the worst human sidekicks the Transformers have ever had.		Comprised of the shows ''Armada'', ''Energon'', and ''Cybertron'', which are also called the ''Unicron Trilogy'' due to the antagonist's return to the spotlight after being virtually nonexistent since The Movie. Anime reinterpretation of G1, decaying from "poor but watchable" to "completely unwatchable drek" for all the reasons people hate [[/a/]]: bad dubbing(though many people did like Gary Chalk, now voicing Optimus ''Prime'' after doing Primal for the Beast series'.), overly lengthy scenes of nothing, a shift to crappy CGI, and a plot that is so terribly paced and search-questy that you'd be praying for your GM to be railroading this. On the plus-side: competent badass Starscream (who unfortunately inspired a whole generation of [[Edgy\|Linkin Park listening wannabes]]). On the downside: far too much focus on humans and not enough on giant robots trying to kill each other. Kicker, from the later series, is considered one of the worst human sidekicks the Transformers have ever had.
	It has been said that, for all the failings of ''Beast Machines'', at least it's better than Armada and Energon.		It has been said that, for all the failings of ''Beast Machines'', at least it's better than Armada and Energon.