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The Trinity

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	''''''Who? Who made you?''''''		''''''Who? Who made you?''''''

	''''''At the dawn of the galaxy, so far removed from humans they might as well be gods. But even they could not tame the warp, only corral it for moments at a time. But that which creates also devours, and i am the foundation of all that was, is and will be. I am the Lens, the Bridge, the Doorway.''''''		''''''At the dawn of the galaxy, so far removed from humans they might as well be gods. But even they could not tame the warp, only corral it for moments at a time. But that which creates also devours, and I am the foundation of all that was, is and will be. I am the Lens, the Bridge, the Doorway.''''''

	==The Great Crusade==		==The Great Crusade==

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	Convinced by [[Ezekiel]] to leave history be and to focus on trying to prevent nearby Fallen and Death Guard forces from accessing the rift first, [[Azrael]] destroyed the rift leaving the status of the other two constructs unknown, and it also had the unforeseen consequence of {{Blam\|+++absolutely nothing of note happening. Any further questions should be forwarded to Interrogator-Chaplain Zacharias and [[Ordo Chronos\|his strange new friends]].+++}}		Convinced by [[Ezekiel]] to leave history be and to focus on trying to prevent nearby Fallen and Death Guard forces from accessing the rift first, [[Azrael]] destroyed the rift leaving the status of the other two constructs unknown, and it also had the unforeseen consequence of {{Blam\|+++absolutely nothing of note happening. Any further questions should be forwarded to Interrogator-Chaplain Zacharias and [[Ordo Chronos\|his strange new friends]].+++}}

	Later still, it was stolen by [[Vashtorr]], who recognized it as the last piece of the "Key" he and [[Abaddon]] sought to create.		Later still, it was stolen by [[Vashtorr]], who recognized it as the last piece of the "Key" he and [[Abaddon]] sought to create. Reunited with the Plagueheart and the Ouroboros, the newly reforged Dissonance Engine was used to link Wyrmwood (formerly Caliban) to numerous Webway tunnels, allowing the Warmaster and his daemonic ally to begin their search for the Lock, a cache of superweapons predating the War in Heaven able to annihilate the galaxy.

	==Contact Re-established==		==Contact Re-established==

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	Convinced by [[Ezekiel]] to leave history be and to focus on trying to prevent nearby Fallen and Death Guard forces from accessing the rift first, [[Azrael]] destroyed the rift leaving the status of the other two constructs unknown, and it also had the unforeseen consequence of {{Blam\|+++absolutely nothing of note happening. Any further questions should be forwarded to Interrogator-Chaplain Zacharias and [[Ordo Chronos\|his strange new friends]].+++}}		Convinced by [[Ezekiel]] to leave history be and to focus on trying to prevent nearby Fallen and Death Guard forces from accessing the rift first, [[Azrael]] destroyed the rift leaving the status of the other two constructs unknown, and it also had the unforeseen consequence of {{Blam\|+++absolutely nothing of note happening. Any further questions should be forwarded to Interrogator-Chaplain Zacharias and [[Ordo Chronos\|his strange new friends]].+++}}

	~~Much later~~, it was stolen by [[Vashtorr]], who recognized it as the last piece of the "Key" he and [[Abaddon]] sought to create.		Later still, it was stolen by [[Vashtorr]], who recognized it as the last piece of the "Key" he and [[Abaddon]] sought to create.

	==Contact Re-established==		==Contact Re-established==

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	Convinced by [[Ezekiel]] to leave history be and to focus on trying to prevent nearby Fallen and Death Guard forces from accessing the rift first, [[Azrael]] destroyed the rift leaving the status of the other two constructs unknown, and it also had the unforeseen consequence of {{Blam\|+++absolutely nothing of note happening. Any further questions should be forwarded to Interrogator-Chaplain Zacharias and [[Ordo Chronos\|his strange new friends]].+++}}		Convinced by [[Ezekiel]] to leave history be and to focus on trying to prevent nearby Fallen and Death Guard forces from accessing the rift first, [[Azrael]] destroyed the rift leaving the status of the other two constructs unknown, and it also had the unforeseen consequence of {{Blam\|+++absolutely nothing of note happening. Any further questions should be forwarded to Interrogator-Chaplain Zacharias and [[Ordo Chronos\|his strange new friends]].+++}}

			Much later, it was stolen by [[Vashtorr]], who recognized it as the last piece of the "Key" he and [[Abaddon]] sought to create.

	==Contact Re-established==		==Contact Re-established==

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Paradox

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	==Paradox==		==Paradox==
	This brings up an interesting dilemma that the guys at GW could not possibly have missed, as it turns Tuchulcha into possibly the ultimate reset button; if Tuchulcha was indeed used in the creation of the Webway and if destroying it retroactively erases it from reality, that means if it does get destroyed then it couldn't have been used to make the Webway. And if the Webway doesn’t exist, then the Old Ones and the Necrontyr may never have crossed paths, which means that the War in Heaven never happens. The [[Eldar]] and [[Orks]] are never created, the [[~~C’Tan~~]] are never discovered, and the Necrontyr never become the Necrons. With the War in Heaven never happening, the turbulence that it created in the Warp never happens, and the Chaos Gods never come into being. Without them <s>the ancient Shamans never sacrifice themselves in order to protect their souls,</s> the God Emperor is never created...and so on.		This brings up an interesting dilemma that the guys at GW could not possibly have missed, as it turns Tuchulcha into possibly the ultimate reset button; if Tuchulcha was indeed used in the creation of the Webway and if destroying it retroactively erases it from reality, that means if it does get destroyed then it couldn't have been used to make the Webway. And if the Webway doesn’t exist, then the Old Ones and the Necrontyr may never have crossed paths, which means that the War in Heaven never happens. The [[Eldar]] and [[Orks]] are never created, the [[C%27tan]] are never discovered, and the Necrontyr never become the Necrons. With the War in Heaven never happening, the turbulence that it created in the Warp never happens, and the Chaos Gods never come into being. Without them <s>the ancient Shamans never sacrifice themselves in order to protect their souls,</s> the God Emperor is never created...and so on.

	TL;DR: if Tuchulcha is ever destroyed, the resulting chain reaction of time paradoxes will erase the 40k universe as we know it and humanity would safely rise and eventually become New Man like the Emperor wanted (probably to the Old One's joy). C'mon Lion, kill the fucker! Though that would also erase the grimderp and half of the grimdark. So we can't have that.		TL;DR: if Tuchulcha is ever destroyed, the resulting chain reaction of time paradoxes will erase the 40k universe as we know it and humanity would safely rise and eventually become New Man like the Emperor wanted (probably to the Old One's joy). C'mon Lion, kill the fucker! Though that would also erase the grimderp and half of the grimdark. So we can't have that.

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	==Paradox==		==Paradox==
	This brings up an interesting dilemma that the guys at GW could not possibly have missed, as it turns Tuchulcha into possibly the ultimate reset button; if Tuchulcha was indeed used in the creation of the Webway and if destroying it retroactively erases it from reality, that means if it does get destroyed then it couldn't have been used to make the Webway. And if the Webway doesn’t exist, then the Old Ones and the Necrontyr may never have crossed paths, which means that the War in Heaven never happens. The [[Eldar]] and [[Orks]] are never created, the [[~~C’tan~~]] are never discovered, and the Necrontyr never become the Necrons. With the War in Heaven never happening, the turbulence that it created in the Warp never happens, and the Chaos Gods never come into being. Without them <s>the ancient Shamans never sacrifice themselves in order to protect their souls,</s> the God Emperor is never created...and so on.		This brings up an interesting dilemma that the guys at GW could not possibly have missed, as it turns Tuchulcha into possibly the ultimate reset button; if Tuchulcha was indeed used in the creation of the Webway and if destroying it retroactively erases it from reality, that means if it does get destroyed then it couldn't have been used to make the Webway. And if the Webway doesn’t exist, then the Old Ones and the Necrontyr may never have crossed paths, which means that the War in Heaven never happens. The [[Eldar]] and [[Orks]] are never created, the [[C’Tan]] are never discovered, and the Necrontyr never become the Necrons. With the War in Heaven never happening, the turbulence that it created in the Warp never happens, and the Chaos Gods never come into being. Without them <s>the ancient Shamans never sacrifice themselves in order to protect their souls,</s> the God Emperor is never created...and so on.

	TL;DR: if Tuchulcha is ever destroyed, the resulting chain reaction of time paradoxes will erase the 40k universe as we know it and humanity would safely rise and eventually become New Man like the Emperor wanted (probably to the Old One's joy). C'mon Lion, kill the fucker! Though that would also erase the grimderp and half of the grimdark. So we can't have that.		TL;DR: if Tuchulcha is ever destroyed, the resulting chain reaction of time paradoxes will erase the 40k universe as we know it and humanity would safely rise and eventually become New Man like the Emperor wanted (probably to the Old One's joy). C'mon Lion, kill the fucker! Though that would also erase the grimderp and half of the grimdark. So we can't have that.

1d4chan>EFAP guest: /* The Great Crusade */

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The Great Crusade

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	During the great crusade the [[Dark Angels]] and the [[Death Guard]] brought to compliance the Perditus System where Tuchulcha was being worshiped as a god by the local population.		During the great crusade the [[Dark Angels]] and the [[Death Guard]] brought to compliance the Perditus System where Tuchulcha was being worshiped as a god by the local population.

	Tuchulcha apparently took a great liking to the Lion; it says that as soon as it felt the presence of the Lion, it knew its “saviour” had finally come. Its apparent fondness for the Lion borders on almost stalker-like levels of obsession: although it could have left at any time, it chose to remain in the exact same spot for more than fifty years waiting for the Lion to return and claim it. Even when ~~Typhus~~ turned up wanting to save it, Tuchulcha told him to go away as it would only leave with the Lion.		Tuchulcha apparently took a great liking to the Lion; it says that as soon as it felt the presence of the Lion, it knew its “saviour” had finally come. Its apparent fondness for the Lion borders on almost stalker-like levels of obsession: although it could have left at any time, it chose to remain in the exact same spot for more than fifty years waiting for the Lion to return and claim it. Even when Typhon turned up wanting to save it, Tuchulcha told him to go away as it would only leave with the Lion.

	==The Horus Heresy==		==The Horus Heresy==

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	{{Topquote\|They made us, the one split into three,’ the essence of Chaos, refined and shaped. They thought they could tame the warp, use me to dig their tunnels and secret ways hidden from the eyes of the [[GW\|Powers That Rule]]. They did not know that they made something else. Something far grander.\|Tuchulcha on itself}}		{{Topquote\|They made us, the one split into three,’ the essence of Chaos, refined and shaped. They thought they could tame the warp, use me to dig their tunnels and secret ways hidden from the eyes of the [[GW\|Powers That Rule]]. They did not know that they made something else. Something far grander.\|Tuchulcha on itself}}

	The '''Tuchulcha Engine''' used by the Lion during the Horus Heresy is a truly interesting entity. It is an incredibly ancient sentient device of unknown origins; though it does mention that it was created by beings that used it to '''"tunnel their secret ways hidden from the eyes of the powers that rule"''', which sounds suspiciously like the [[Old Ones]] and their creation of the Webway (and on a metatextual level, like a TARDIS, but we'll get to that later). If its creators are indeed the Old Ones and it was truly used in the creation of the [[Webway]], then it is likely among the very oldest things still around by the time of 40k, even pre-dating the Chaos Gods themselves seeing as they came into being during or just after the [[War in Heaven]]. In fact, it may only be second to the [[C'tan]], who for their part are said to have been around since the formation of the Galaxy itself. ''(If we include the [[Enslavers]], some Warp entities existed before the Ruinous Powers existed. As linear time doesn't apply consistently in the warp, this may or not be true; it's all so very Chaotic, isn't it?)''		The '''Tuchulcha Engine''' used by the Lion during the Horus Heresy is a truly interesting entity. It is an incredibly ancient sentient device of unknown origins; though it does mention that it was created by beings that used it to '''"tunnel their secret ways hidden from the eyes of the powers that rule"''', which sounds suspiciously like the [[Old Ones]] and their creation of the Webway (and on a metatextual level, like a TARDIS, but we'll get to that later). If its creators are indeed the Old Ones and it was truly used in the creation of the [[Webway]], then it is likely among the very oldest things still around by the time of 40k, even pre-dating the Chaos Gods themselves seeing as they came into being during or just after the [[War in Heaven]]. In fact, it may only be second to the [[C'tan]], who for their part are said to have been around since the formation of the Galaxy itself. ''(If we include the [[Enslavers]], some Warp entities existed before the Ruinous Powers existed. But because linear time doesn't apply consistently in the warp, this may or not be true; it's all so very Chaotic, isn't it?)''

	Tuchulcha claims that it cannot be destroyed as it exists in the past, present and future simultaneously, and that if it was ever destroyed then it will no longer exist in any time line, though it admits that the Lion scares it as it has no wish to die.		Tuchulcha claims that it cannot be destroyed as it exists in the past, present and future simultaneously, and that if it was ever destroyed then it will no longer exist in any time line, though it admits that the Lion scares it as it has no wish to die.