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	A Space Marine founding taking place in the [[Ordo Chronos\|early 42nd Millennium]] (8th Edition), the Ultima Founding, numerically the 27th Founding, is unique as all Ultima Founding chapters are entirely made up of [[Primaris Marines]], the shiny true-scale NuMarines with the latest and greatest technology, which is what happened when [[Roboute Guilliman]] told [[Belisarius Cawl]] that normal [[Space Marine\|Space Marines]] weren't cool enough.		A Space Marine founding taking place in the [[Ordo Chronos\|early 42nd Millennium]] (8th Edition), the Ultima Founding, numerically the 27th Founding, is unique as all Ultima Founding chapters are entirely made up of [[Primaris Marines]], the shiny true-scale NuMarines with the latest and greatest technology, which is what happened when [[Roboute Guilliman]] told [[Belisarius Cawl]] that normal [[Space Marine\|Space Marines]] weren't cool enough.

	While many of the first NuMarines reinforced existing chapters (with Guilliman's Ultramarines being the first, of course), Guilliman also ordered a host of brand new chapters (with Guilliman's Ultramarines also gaining a plurality of successors) created out of whole cloth. These chapters are the Ultima Founding.		While many of the first NuMarines reinforced existing chapters (with Guilliman's Ultramarines being the first, of course), Guilliman also ordered a host of brand new chapters (with Guilliman's Ultramarines also gaining a plurality of successors) created out of whole cloth. These chapters are the Ultima Founding.

	All of the original First Founding chapters were represented in these new chapters, with each chapter tracing their history like any other successor chapter. Yes, even the Space Wolves, who despite their disdain for the Codex are undoubtedly thankful for a [[Wolfspear\|Successor Chapter]] which hasn't [[Wolf Brothers\|devolved into mutants]]. While they seem less susceptible to psychic anomalies like the Black Rage, they do seem to be either immune or just extremely resistant to genetic flaws such as the Wulfen. It is unknown if this is immunity or simple lack of time to manifest the conditions. Their fieldings during the [[Indomitus Crusade]] and those following it seem to show that their genetic anomalies play a part, but have a much harder time taking over Primaris. For example, a Space Wolf still needs to be careful not to get too into the heat of battle, or they lose themselves to bloodlust, occasionally going as far as turning into a Wulfen; the Blood Angels probably have the same type of issue. The Black Rage has been observed in Primaris Blood Angels, though apparently it happens only when the marine really loses it as opposed to randomly getting fucked over.		All of the original First Founding chapters were represented in these new chapters, with each chapter tracing their history like any other successor chapter. Yes, even the Space Wolves, who despite their disdain for the Codex are undoubtedly thankful for a [[Wolfspear\|Successor Chapter]] which hasn't [[Wolf Brothers\|devolved into mutants]]. While they seem less susceptible to psychic anomalies like the Black Rage, they do seem to be either immune or just extremely resistant to genetic flaws such as the Wulfen. It is unknown if this is immunity or simple lack of time to manifest the conditions. Their fieldings during the [[Indomitus Crusade]] and those following it seem to show that their genetic anomalies play a part, but have a much harder time taking over Primaris. For example, a Space Wolf still needs to be careful not to get too into the heat of battle, or they lose themselves to bloodlust, occasionally going as far as turning into a Wulfen; the Blood Angels probably have the same type of issue. The Black Rage has been observed in Primaris Blood Angels, though apparently it happens only when the marine really loses it as opposed to randomly getting fucked over.

	Ultima Founding chapters were mostly given homeworlds on the edge of the Great Rift to act as a bulwark against Chaos, although some were created to replace destroyed chapters and given their empty Fortress Monasteries to inhabit.		Ultima Founding chapters were mostly given homeworlds on the edge of the Great Rift to act as a bulwark against Chaos, although some were created to replace destroyed chapters and given their empty Fortress Monasteries to inhabit.

	Many of the Ultima Founding Chapters are apparently a first for how a chapter is built. Guilliman had whole chapters created consisting of Marines with mixed ancestry, with Marines that were placed in the same chapter and squads with no regard for the origins of their geneseed. This appears to create better relations among Primaris Marines.		Many of the Ultima Founding Chapters are apparently a first for how a chapter is built. Guilliman had whole chapters created consisting of Marines with mixed ancestry, with Marines that were placed in the same chapter and squads with no regard for the origins of their geneseed. This appears to create better relations among Primaris Marines.

	Games Workshop appears to be intentionally pushing players to create their own chapters this time, going so far as to include a coloring book style "design your own chapter" with the announcement of the Ultima Founding.		Games Workshop appears to be intentionally pushing players to create their own chapters this time, going so far as to include a coloring book style "design your own chapter" with the announcement of the Ultima Founding.
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	==Ultima Founding [[Traitor Legion Loyalists]]?==		==Ultima Founding [[Traitor Legion Loyalists]]?==
	As mentioned in Dark Imperium, Cawl apparently either planned to or outright did create Ultima Founding chapters out of ALL the original first founding chapters, including the Traitor Legions as well as the two infamously Lost Legions (II and XI). It is unknown if they were finished before RG objected to them, or if they were created and subsequently purged. Guilliman personally suspects that Cawl probably had them made despite his objection. See also [[Sons of the Phoenix]].		As mentioned in Dark Imperium, Cawl apparently either planned to or outright did create Ultima Founding chapters out of ALL the original first founding chapters, including the Traitor Legions as well as the two infamously Lost Legions (II and XI). It is unknown if they were finished before RG objected to them, or if they were created and subsequently purged. Guilliman personally suspects that Cawl probably had them made despite his objection. See also [[Sons of the Phoenix]].

	==List of Ultima Founding Chapters==		==List of Ultima Founding Chapters==

1d4chan>Komainu: /* Refounded Chapters */ Watery Blood Angels called Dragons Ardent (so goes a short story called "It bleeds")

2023-02-02T00:00:46Z

Refounded Chapters: Watery Blood Angels called Dragons Ardent (so goes a short story called "It bleeds")

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	===Refounded Chapters===		===Refounded Chapters===
	*[[Brazen Skulls]]		*[[Brazen Skulls]]
			*[[Dragons Ardent]]
	*[[Soul Drinkers]]		*[[Soul Drinkers]]

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Apparentlt they're not immune to the wulfen thing after all

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	While many of the first NuMarines reinforced existing chapters (with Guilliman's Ultramarines being the first, of course), Guilliman also ordered a host of brand new chapters (with Guilliman's Ultramarines also gaining a plurality of successors) created out of whole cloth. These chapters are the Ultima Founding.		While many of the first NuMarines reinforced existing chapters (with Guilliman's Ultramarines being the first, of course), Guilliman also ordered a host of brand new chapters (with Guilliman's Ultramarines also gaining a plurality of successors) created out of whole cloth. These chapters are the Ultima Founding.

	All of the original First Founding chapters were represented in these new chapters, with each chapter tracing their history like any other successor chapter. Yes, even the Space Wolves, who despite their disdain for the Codex are undoubtedly thankful for a [[Wolfspear\|Successor Chapter]] which hasn't [[Wolf Brothers\|devolved into mutants]]. While they seem less susceptible to psychic anomalies like the Black Rage, they do seem to be either immune or just extremely resistant to genetic flaws such as the Wulfen. It is unknown if this is immunity or simple lack of time to manifest the conditions. Their fieldings during the [[Indomitus Crusade]] and those following it seem to show that their genetic anomalies play a part, but have a much harder time taking over Primaris. For example, a Space Wolf still needs to be careful not to get too into the heat of battle, or they lose themselves to bloodlust, ~~though~~ going as far as turning into a Wulfen ~~has yet to be seen~~; the Blood Angels probably have the same type of issue. The Black Rage has been observed in Primaris Blood Angels, though apparently it happens only when the marine really loses it as opposed to randomly getting fucked over.		All of the original First Founding chapters were represented in these new chapters, with each chapter tracing their history like any other successor chapter. Yes, even the Space Wolves, who despite their disdain for the Codex are undoubtedly thankful for a [[Wolfspear\|Successor Chapter]] which hasn't [[Wolf Brothers\|devolved into mutants]]. While they seem less susceptible to psychic anomalies like the Black Rage, they do seem to be either immune or just extremely resistant to genetic flaws such as the Wulfen. It is unknown if this is immunity or simple lack of time to manifest the conditions. Their fieldings during the [[Indomitus Crusade]] and those following it seem to show that their genetic anomalies play a part, but have a much harder time taking over Primaris. For example, a Space Wolf still needs to be careful not to get too into the heat of battle, or they lose themselves to bloodlust, occasionally going as far as turning into a Wulfen; the Blood Angels probably have the same type of issue. The Black Rage has been observed in Primaris Blood Angels, though apparently it happens only when the marine really loses it as opposed to randomly getting fucked over.

	Ultima Founding chapters were mostly given homeworlds on the edge of the Great Rift to act as a bulwark against Chaos, although some were created to replace destroyed chapters and given their empty Fortress Monasteries to inhabit.		Ultima Founding chapters were mostly given homeworlds on the edge of the Great Rift to act as a bulwark against Chaos, although some were created to replace destroyed chapters and given their empty Fortress Monasteries to inhabit.

1d4chan>MrPhantom: /* Blood Angels */

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Blood Angels

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	*[[Blood Scythes]]		*[[Blood Scythes]]
	*[[Knights of the Chalice]]		*[[Knights of the Chalice]]

			As a side note, the [[Knights of Blood]] chapter was explicitly denied being refounded as they had been declared renegades due to extreme actions, but were acknowledged as loyalists after they died in battle.

	===[[Dark Angels]]===		===[[Dark Angels]]===

1d4chan>The Hat That Was: /* Raven Guard */

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Raven Guard

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	*[[Necropolis Hawks]]		*[[Necropolis Hawks]]
	*[[Rift Stalkers]]		*[[Rift Stalkers]]
			*[[Void Sabres]]

	===[[Salamanders]]===		===[[Salamanders]]===

1d4chan>The Hat That Was: /* List of Ultima Founding Chapters */

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List of Ultima Founding Chapters

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	==List of Ultima Founding Chapters==		==List of Ultima Founding Chapters==
	===Unknown Parentage===		===Unknown Parentage===
			*[[Black Vultures]]
	*[[Knights of Thunder]], mentioned in the Blood Angels codex as having had their chapter's name inscribed in many victory monuments throughout the [[Imperium of Man]].		*[[Knights of Thunder]], mentioned in the Blood Angels codex as having had their chapter's name inscribed in many victory monuments throughout the [[Imperium of Man]].
	*[[Nemesors]], mentioned in the Chaos Space Marines codex as the first encounter of [[Fabius Bile]] with the Primaris Marines.		*[[Nemesors]], mentioned in the Chaos Space Marines codex as the first encounter of [[Fabius Bile]] with the Primaris Marines.
			*[[Rift Cobras]]
	*[[Silver Drakes]], mentioned in the Tyranid codex as having been ordered by Girlyman to turn back [[Hive Fleet Ouroboris]]' advancement.		*[[Silver Drakes]], mentioned in the Tyranid codex as having been ordered by Girlyman to turn back [[Hive Fleet Ouroboris]]' advancement.
	*[[Umbral Knights]], mentioned in the Space Marines codex offhand as, like the [[Rift Stalkers]], remaining on the planet they had been responsible for taking, to hold and consolidate.		*[[Umbral Knights]], mentioned in the Space Marines codex offhand as, like the [[Rift Stalkers]], remaining on the planet they had been responsible for taking, to hold and consolidate.
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	===[[Blood Angels]]===		===[[Blood Angels]]===
			*[[Blood Scythes]]
	*[[Knights of the Chalice]]		*[[Knights of the Chalice]]

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	*[[Blades of Vengeance]]		*[[Blades of Vengeance]]
	*[[Prime Absolvers]]		*[[Prime Absolvers]]
			*[[The Unnamed]]

	===[[Imperial Fists]]===		===[[Imperial Fists]]===
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	===[[Space Wolves]]===		===[[Space Wolves]]===
			*[[Icespears]]
			*[[Mooneaters]]
	*[[Wolfspear]]		*[[Wolfspear]]

	===[[Ultramarines]]===		===[[Ultramarines]]===
			*[[Avenging Sons]]
	*[[Castellans of the Rift]]		*[[Castellans of the Rift]]
	*[[Fulminators]]		*[[Fulminators]]
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	*[[Astral Bears]]		*[[Astral Bears]]
	*[[Storm Reapers]]		*[[Storm Reapers]]

			===Refounded Chapters===
			*[[Brazen Skulls]]
			*[[Soul Drinkers]]

	{{Marines-Official}}		{{Marines-Official}}

2A0B:F4C2:0:0:0:0:0:9: /* List of Ultima Founding Chapters */ Added the Iron Hands' successor chapter

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List of Ultima Founding Chapters: Added the Iron Hands' successor chapter

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	===[[Imperial Fists]]===		===[[Imperial Fists]]===
	*[[Sons of the Phoenix]] (though they might be Fulgrim's sons as well)		*[[Sons of the Phoenix]] (though they might be Fulgrim's sons as well)

			===[[Iron Hands]]===
			*[[Knights of Byzantium]]

	===[[Raven Guard]]===		===[[Raven Guard]]===

1d4chan>MrPhantom at 19:28, 5 July 2021

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	A Space Marine founding taking place in the [[Ordo Chronos\|early 42nd Millennium]] (8th Edition), the Ultima Founding is unique as all Ultima Founding chapters are entirely made up of [[Primaris Marines]], the shiny true-scale NuMarines with the latest and greatest technology, which is what happened when [[Roboute Guilliman]] told [[Belisarius Cawl]] that normal [[Space Marine\|Space Marines]] weren't cool enough.		A Space Marine founding taking place in the [[Ordo Chronos\|early 42nd Millennium]] (8th Edition), the Ultima Founding, numerically the 27th Founding, is unique as all Ultima Founding chapters are entirely made up of [[Primaris Marines]], the shiny true-scale NuMarines with the latest and greatest technology, which is what happened when [[Roboute Guilliman]] told [[Belisarius Cawl]] that normal [[Space Marine\|Space Marines]] weren't cool enough.

	While many of the first NuMarines reinforced existing chapters (with Guilliman's Ultramarines being the first, of course), Guilliman also ordered a host of brand new chapters (with Guilliman's Ultramarines also gaining a plurality of successors) created out of whole cloth. These chapters are the Ultima Founding.		While many of the first NuMarines reinforced existing chapters (with Guilliman's Ultramarines being the first, of course), Guilliman also ordered a host of brand new chapters (with Guilliman's Ultramarines also gaining a plurality of successors) created out of whole cloth. These chapters are the Ultima Founding.

	All of the original First Founding chapters were represented in these new chapters, with each chapter tracing their history like any other successor chapter. Yes, even the Space Wolves, who despite their disdain for the Codex are undoubtedly thankful for a [[Wolfspear\|Successor Chapter]] which hasn't [[Wolf Brothers\|devolved into mutants]]. While they seem less susceptible to psychic anomalies like the Black Rage, they do seem to be either immune or just extremely resistant to genetic flaws such as the Wulfen. It is unknown if this is immunity or simple lack of time to manifest the conditions. Their fieldings during the [[Indomitus Crusade]] and those following it seem to show that their genetic anomalies play a part, but have a much harder time taking over Primaris. For example, a Space Wolf still needs to be careful not to get too into the heat of battle, or they lose themselves to bloodlust, though going as far as turning into a Wulfen has yet to be seen; the Blood Angels probably have the same type of issue.		All of the original First Founding chapters were represented in these new chapters, with each chapter tracing their history like any other successor chapter. Yes, even the Space Wolves, who despite their disdain for the Codex are undoubtedly thankful for a [[Wolfspear\|Successor Chapter]] which hasn't [[Wolf Brothers\|devolved into mutants]]. While they seem less susceptible to psychic anomalies like the Black Rage, they do seem to be either immune or just extremely resistant to genetic flaws such as the Wulfen. It is unknown if this is immunity or simple lack of time to manifest the conditions. Their fieldings during the [[Indomitus Crusade]] and those following it seem to show that their genetic anomalies play a part, but have a much harder time taking over Primaris. For example, a Space Wolf still needs to be careful not to get too into the heat of battle, or they lose themselves to bloodlust, though going as far as turning into a Wulfen has yet to be seen; the Blood Angels probably have the same type of issue. The Black Rage has been observed in Primaris Blood Angels, though apparently it happens only when the marine really loses it as opposed to randomly getting fucked over.

	Ultima Founding chapters were mostly given homeworlds on the edge of the Great Rift to act as a bulwark against Chaos, although some were created to replace destroyed chapters and given their empty Fortress Monasteries to inhabit.		Ultima Founding chapters were mostly given homeworlds on the edge of the Great Rift to act as a bulwark against Chaos, although some were created to replace destroyed chapters and given their empty Fortress Monasteries to inhabit.
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	Games Workshop appears to be intentionally pushing players to create their own chapters this time, going so far as to include a coloring book style "design your own chapter" with the announcement of the Ultima Founding.		Games Workshop appears to be intentionally pushing players to create their own chapters this time, going so far as to include a coloring book style "design your own chapter" with the announcement of the Ultima Founding.

	Specifically, the founding started on the last days of 999.M41 and first days of 000.M42, intermittently continued throughout the Indomitus Crusade as chapters were founded or refounded and ended with the Indomitus Crusade after the Battle of Raukos on 111.M42 as the final core of [[Unnumbered Sons]] veterans disbanded to form the last Chapters of the Ultima Founding.		Specifically, the founding started on the last days of 999.M41 and first days of 000.M42, intermittently continued throughout the Indomitus Crusade as chapters were founded or refounded and ended with the [[Retcon\|first phase of the]] Indomitus Crusade after the Battle of Raukos on [[Retcon\|<s>111</s>]]012.M42 as the final core of [[Unnumbered Sons]] veterans disbanded to form the last Chapters of the Ultima Founding. The Ultima Founding is also confirmed to be the largest founding of Space Marine Chapters, surpassing the infamous [[Cursed Founding\|Cursed 21st Founding]], with far better results than that fiasco. [[Grimdark\|Hopefully.]]

	==Ultima Founding [[Traitor Legion Loyalists]]?==		==Ultima Founding [[Traitor Legion Loyalists]]?==