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Daemonic Gifts

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Magic Items

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	There are dozens upon dozens of magic items in the Chaos books, and life is too short for one contributor to take the job on. Here are a few of my personal favourites, and may others do what I cannot be arsed with.		There are dozens upon dozens of magic items in the Chaos books, and life is too short for one contributor to take the job on. Here are a few of my personal favourites, and may others do what I cannot be arsed with.

	* Chaos Daemon Sword - expensive, at 85 points, but slap this on your Sorcerer Lord or Great Bray-Shaman and compress all the fighting and casting power of a Greater Daemon down into a base that can hide in a unit. Just enough left over for a Talisman of Protection, too.		* '''Chaos Daemon Sword''' - expensive, at 85 points, but slap this on your Sorcerer Lord or Great Bray-Shaman and compress all the fighting and casting power of a Greater Daemon down into a base that can hide in a unit. Just enough left over for a Talisman of Protection, too.

	* Slaughterer's Blade & Pendant of Slaanesh - whack both of these on one Lord and let 'em go to town. You either get to heal lost wounds or rack up bonus attacks, what's not to love?		* '''Slaughterer's Blade & Pendant of Slaanesh''' - whack both of these on one Lord and let 'em go to town. You either get to heal lost wounds or rack up bonus attacks, what's not to love?

	* Armour of Damnation - forcing opponents to reroll their hits is always a chuckle. Solid, basic, effective.		* '''Armour of Damnation''' - forcing opponents to reroll their hits is always a chuckle. Solid, basic, effective.

	* Collar of Khorne, Pelt of the Dark Young - because nothing says love like putting Magic Resistance on your key unit in an army that already throws Dispel dice around like they're going out of fashion.		* '''Collar of Khorne, Pelt of the Dark Young''' - because nothing says love like putting Magic Resistance on your key unit in an army that already throws Dispel dice around like they're going out of fashion.

	* Golden Eye of Tzeentch - unlike most 30 point 3+ wards vs. shooting, this one extends to the model's mount. A Tzeentch character on a Disc will absolutely need this because good GOD the enemy are going to be gunning for them. Take it and thank me later.		* '''Golden Eye of Tzeentch''' - unlike most 30 point 3+ wards vs. shooting, this one extends to the model's mount. A Tzeentch character on a Disc will absolutely need this because good GOD the enemy are going to be gunning for them. Take it and thank me later.

	* Bindings of Slaanesh - a bit pricey, but being able to lock enemy characters into a challenge with a Chaos Lord's fighting stats is worth it. Pluck that Grey Seer from the back of his bunker and show the dirty rat how we do things in the Grim Dark North.		* '''Bindings of Slaanesh''' - a bit pricey, but being able to lock enemy characters into a challenge with a Chaos Lord's fighting stats is worth it. Pluck that Grey Seer from the back of his bunker and show the dirty rat how we do things in the Grim Dark North.

	* Sceptre of Domination - yeah it's another Slaanesh item, no I don't care: power level 6 is great for a Bound item, forcing two or even three dice to be spent on stopping it, and it casts an amusing, potentially dangerous spell. For 25 points it's a bargain. Doesn't even run out on a 1.		* '''Sceptre of Domination''' - yeah it's another Slaanesh item, no I don't care: power level 6 is great for a Bound item, forcing two or even three dice to be spent on stopping it, and it casts an amusing, potentially dangerous spell. For 25 points it's a bargain. Doesn't even run out on a 1.

	* Staff of Darkoath - Chaos loves movement spells. Beast Herds in particular love movement spells as they get to charge on the same turn as they Ambush with them. This thing guarantees a movement spell to the Shaman carrying it - not a Bound spell, a proper one with a solid casting value. Join the dots!		* '''Staff of Darkoath''' - Chaos loves movement spells. Beast Herds in particular love movement spells as they get to charge on the same turn as they Ambush with them. This thing guarantees a movement spell to the Shaman carrying it - not a Bound spell, a proper one with a solid casting value. Join the dots!

	* Crown of Horns, Horn of the Great Hunt, Preyseeker - making Beastmen less dependent on their horrible Leadership ratings is never a bad idea, and between them these three items will keep your Bestigor on the battlefield and your Ambushing units turning up where they should.		* '''Crown of Horns, Horn of the Great Hunt, Preyseeker''' - making Beastmen less dependent on their horrible Leadership ratings is never a bad idea, and between them these three items will keep your Bestigor on the battlefield and your Ambushing units turning up where they should.

	* Banner of Rage - turns the unit carrying it into a massive problem for your opponent. They probably won't break, they'll never lose their frenzy, they have to be shot up or beaten down to the last man to be stopped. Whack it on a nice unit of Chosen Knights and ask whaddayagonnado?		* '''Banner of Rage''' - turns the unit carrying it into a massive problem for your opponent. They probably won't break, they'll never lose their frenzy, they have to be shot up or beaten down to the last man to be stopped. Whack it on a nice unit of Chosen Knights and ask whaddayagonnado?

	==Daemonic Gifts==		==Daemonic Gifts==

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Lore of Nurgle

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	Most of the Lore of Nurgle is... unspectacular, limited to targeting single models or inflicting minor debuffs. It has mostly short ranges and its casters don't have a fast mount. Its control spell is more a ticking-off than a no-fun-allowed, and its aggressive spells struggle under the weight of low Strength and single d6 hits. However, they do all bypass armour saves, and sometimes - depending on what the stats of the target are - a -1 malus is all you need. Hold your nose, take a closer look, and you'll find a couple of solid, spammable damage spells plus some decent utility. Its real problem is that it's competing with Undivided casters who bring the Lore of Shadows - all the armour bypassing plus sweet, sweet movement spells.		Most of the Lore of Nurgle is... unspectacular, limited to targeting single models or inflicting minor debuffs. It has mostly short ranges and its casters don't have a fast mount. Its control spell is more a ticking-off than a no-fun-allowed, and its aggressive spells struggle under the weight of low Strength and single d6 hits. However, they do all bypass armour saves, and sometimes - depending on what the stats of the target are - a -1 malus is all you need. Hold your nose, take a closer look, and you'll find a couple of solid, spammable damage spells plus some decent utility. Its real problem is that it's competing with Undivided casters who bring the Lore of Shadows - all the armour bypassing plus sweet, sweet movement spells.

	# Magnificent Buboes - 6+ cast, 18" range, single target takes a Toughness test or suffers a wound, no armour saves. By itself, a fiddly farty little nothing. Land it twice and a Hero dies. Land it three times and a Lord dies. Especially good for upsetting Skaven players (bye bye, Ratling Gun! so long, Warlock Engineer!). Take it on all your casters and worry the enemy for the whole game.		# '''Magnificent Buboes''' - 6+ cast, 18" range, single target takes a Toughness test or suffers a wound, no armour saves. By itself, a fiddly farty little nothing. Land it twice and a Hero dies. Land it three times and a Lord dies. Especially good for upsetting Skaven players (bye bye, Ratling Gun! so long, Warlock Engineer!). Take it on all your casters and worry the enemy for the whole game.
	# Favoured Poxes - 7+, 18" range, Remains in Play. Target enemy suffers -1 WS, BS, S and Ld. This is fine. Not hard to cast, does a lot of favours, but it's not exactly groundbreaking.		# '''Favoured Poxes''' - 7+, 18" range, Remains in Play. Target enemy suffers -1 WS, BS, S and Ld. This is fine. Not hard to cast, does a lot of favours, but it's not exactly groundbreaking.
	# Effulgent Boils - 8+ cast, 24" range, d6 S4 hits, no armour save. Fine, but you'll probably have better things to do than cast it unless you were unlucky and didn't get Afflictions or Scabs.		# '''Effulgent Boils''' - 8+ cast, 24" range, d6 S4 hits, no armour save. Fine, but you'll probably have better things to do than cast it unless you were unlucky and didn't get Afflictions or Scabs.
	# Glistening Scabs - 9+ cast, 18" range, Remains in Play. -1 Toughness to a single target character. It's... look at what the other two Chaos lores can do with a 9+ spell, then look at this. Yes, it combos with Buboes, but since it Remains in Play you're giving up a Buboes attempt to get it there in the first place. Too niche for the casting cost. Dud of the book.		# '''Glistening Scabs''' - 9+ cast, 18" range, Remains in Play. -1 Toughness to a single target character. It's... look at what the other two Chaos lores can do with a 9+ spell, then look at this. Yes, it combos with Buboes, but since it Remains in Play you're giving up a Buboes attempt to get it there in the first place. Too niche for the casting cost. Dud of the book.
	# Glorious Afflictions - 10+, remains in play. Pick an enemy unit, anywhere on the battlefield, and halve its movement. The unlimited range and unconcern for line of sight save this one - it's not as powerful as the Slaanesh control spells but it IS a lot more lenient in terms of where it goes. A hidden gem.		# '''Glorious Afflictions''' - 10+, remains in play. Pick an enemy unit, anywhere on the battlefield, and halve its movement. The unlimited range and unconcern for line of sight save this one - it's not as powerful as the Slaanesh control spells but it IS a lot more lenient in terms of where it goes. A hidden gem.
	# Sumptuous Pestilence - 11+, 24" range, needs line of sight - target unit takes d6 S3 hits ignoring armour saves at the start of each magic phase (yours and theirs) for the rest of the game. This is NOT a Remains in Play spell and that's why it's good: once it's cast this sucker is staying cast and whittling away at its target basically forever. If you get this on a level 3 or 4 wizard you're laughing: just absolutely thrash it out, four dice that sucker every turn, get it on every unit you can as early as you can.		# '''Sumptuous Pestilence''' - 11+, 24" range, needs line of sight - target unit takes d6 S3 hits ignoring armour saves at the start of each magic phase (yours and theirs) for the rest of the game. This is NOT a Remains in Play spell and that's why it's good: once it's cast this sucker is staying cast and whittling away at its target basically forever. If you get this on a level 3 or 4 wizard you're laughing: just absolutely thrash it out, four dice that sucker every turn, get it on every unit you can as early as you can.

	==Magic Items==		==Magic Items==

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Lore of Slaanesh

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	Slaanesh magic is extremely underrated, especially for Mortals and Daemons. Its modest ranges aren't a big deal considering the caster can either fly or ride a Mount of Slaanesh, and Chaos armies absolutely love to control the terms on which their enemies can engage them - which is good, because this Lore is all about the board control and tipping the balance in key combats. It's less spectacular on Beastmen because the Shamans are a bit slower, but still addresses a lot of their weaknesses.		Slaanesh magic is extremely underrated, especially for Mortals and Daemons. Its modest ranges aren't a big deal considering the caster can either fly or ride a Mount of Slaanesh, and Chaos armies absolutely love to control the terms on which their enemies can engage them - which is good, because this Lore is all about the board control and tipping the balance in key combats. It's less spectacular on Beastmen because the Shamans are a bit slower, but still addresses a lot of their weaknesses.

	# Blissful Throes - 6+, 12" range, d6 hits, S6. The S6 saves this one: while all the usual remarks about single die magic missiles still hold true, this one is strong enough that the single hit will probably kill a single wound model that it hits. (The words 'six', 'strength' and 'single' are fast losing all meaning for me here, by the way.) A good cast on cavalry, lone characters, even worth a go on a chariot or war machine; you won't one-hit-kill it, but you stand good odds of getting some wounds in against T4 or 5.		# '''Blissful Throes''' - 6+, 12" range, d6 hits, S6. The S6 saves this one: while all the usual remarks about single die magic missiles still hold true, this one is strong enough that the single hit will probably kill a single wound model that it hits. (The words 'six', 'strength' and 'single' are fast losing all meaning for me here, by the way.) A good cast on cavalry, lone characters, even worth a go on a chariot or war machine; you won't one-hit-kill it, but you stand good odds of getting some wounds in against T4 or 5.
	# Luxurious Torment - 7+, casts on a friend or foe. The unit gains frenzy, even if normally immune to psychology, and while subject to frenzy takes d6 S3 hits per turn, distributed as shooting. Note that this is NOT a Remains in Play spell, so your Sorcerer can absolutely spam this one around like it's going out of fashion. I really rate this one. It's a good cast on your own Marauders or Beast Herds, helping them win fights and not panic, although they need lots of bodies to absorb the hits from the spell. It's not a bad cast on your own Warriors or Knights, who'll probably save the wounds. It can also be a giggle to cast on enemy skirmishers or fast cavalry, who suddenly get baited into fights they can't win, and take casualties even if they manage to restrain themselves.		# '''Luxurious Torment''' - 7+, casts on a friend or foe. The unit gains frenzy, even if normally immune to psychology, and while subject to frenzy takes d6 S3 hits per turn, distributed as shooting. Note that this is NOT a Remains in Play spell, so your Sorcerer can absolutely spam this one around like it's going out of fashion. I really rate this one. It's a good cast on your own Marauders or Beast Herds, helping them win fights and not panic, although they need lots of bodies to absorb the hits from the spell. It's not a bad cast on your own Warriors or Knights, who'll probably save the wounds. It can also be a giggle to cast on enemy skirmishers or fast cavalry, who suddenly get baited into fights they can't win, and take casualties even if they manage to restrain themselves.
	# Titillating Delusions - 8+, remains in play. Pick an enemy unit within 24". Pick a point it can see. Unit must move toward point as fast as possible and will charge anything you put in the way. A superb board control spell. Note that it works on units that are unbreakable or immune to psychology, and so is great for drawing roadblock units like Slayers or Flagellants into positions you don't want them to be in. Makes Tomb Kings players in particular very sad as their flying Hierophants suddenly find themselves drawn to stand right in front of a Keeper of Secrets. Breaks up Empire detachment geometry like a charm too. Pulls Generals out of their ideal Leadership range. Loads you can do with this.		# '''Titillating Delusions''' - 8+, remains in play. Pick an enemy unit within 24". Pick a point it can see. Unit must move toward point as fast as possible and will charge anything you put in the way. A superb board control spell. Note that it works on units that are unbreakable or immune to psychology, and so is great for drawing roadblock units like Slayers or Flagellants into positions you don't want them to be in. Makes Tomb Kings players in particular very sad as their flying Hierophants suddenly find themselves drawn to stand right in front of a Keeper of Secrets. Breaks up Empire detachment geometry like a charm too. Pulls Generals out of their ideal Leadership range. Loads you can do with this.
	# Delectable Torture - 9+, 24" range, make a character attack their own unit. Not as good as the Tzeentch version, but it'll do if you have nothing else to use your dice on. Comes into its own against Wood and High Elves as it can make characters use ranged attacks on their own side if they have them: get this one off early and direct their Hail of Doom into the back of their own Dryads or something similarly hilarious.		# '''Delectable Torture''' - 9+, 24" range, make a character attack their own unit. Not as good as the Tzeentch version, but it'll do if you have nothing else to use your dice on. Comes into its own against Wood and High Elves as it can make characters use ranged attacks on their own side if they have them: get this one off early and direct their Hail of Doom into the back of their own Dryads or something similarly hilarious.
	# Enrapturing Spasms - 10+, 24" range, the other board control spell. This one doesn't work on targets which are immune to psychology, and prevents its target from moving, casting, shooting or fighting in its next turn. If the unit's engaged or already fighting, they are hit automatically and don't fight back. It becomes immune to psychology but it CAN take Break tests and WILL flee if broken. Finally, and this is the secret kicker, if the unit is or contains a Wizard, any Remains In Play Spell they're upkeeping is immediately dispelled. Despite all the caveats about breaking and immunity, this spell is AMAZING for turning a key combat in your favour, silencing an artillery piece, freezing a death star or getting a nasty Curse of Years or similar out of play.		# '''Enrapturing Spasms''' - 10+, 24" range, the other board control spell. This one doesn't work on targets which are immune to psychology, and prevents its target from moving, casting, shooting or fighting in its next turn. If the unit's engaged or already fighting, they are hit automatically and don't fight back. It becomes immune to psychology but it CAN take Break tests and WILL flee if broken. Finally, and this is the secret kicker, if the unit is or contains a Wizard, any Remains In Play Spell they're upkeeping is immediately dispelled. Despite all the caveats about breaking and immunity, this spell is AMAZING for turning a key combat in your favour, silencing an artillery piece, freezing a death star or getting a nasty Curse of Years or similar out of play.
	# Delicious Excruciation - 11+, remains in play, turns the target Unbreakable. Cast on Daemons, it replaces Daemonic Instability, and that alone makes it fan-bloody-tastic since Slaanesh Daemons are on the squashy side and tend to take casualties in any circumstance when they're not striking first.		# '''Delicious Excruciation''' - 11+, remains in play, turns the target Unbreakable. Cast on Daemons, it replaces Daemonic Instability, and that alone makes it fan-bloody-tastic since Slaanesh Daemons are on the squashy side and tend to take casualties in any circumstance when they're not striking first.

	===Lore of Nurgle===		===Lore of Nurgle===

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Lore of Tzeentch

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	Tzeentch spells are all about doing damage, or preventing damage - oddly enough, the real moustache-twirling nyahahahahajustasplanned stuff is more Slaanesh's remit. Notably, this lore has seven spells: any wizard can trade out a spell they don't want for Red Fire of Alteration, which you can't roll up at random because you can't roll a 0 on 1d6. (Note that because of the way 1d4chan's code handles numbered lists, it's at 7 on our summary, which of course breaks the rainbow theme GW were going for.)		Tzeentch spells are all about doing damage, or preventing damage - oddly enough, the real moustache-twirling nyahahahahajustasplanned stuff is more Slaanesh's remit. Notably, this lore has seven spells: any wizard can trade out a spell they don't want for Red Fire of Alteration, which you can't roll up at random because you can't roll a 0 on 1d6. (Note that because of the way 1d4chan's code handles numbered lists, it's at 7 on our summary, which of course breaks the rainbow theme GW were going for.)

	# Orange Fire of Protection - cast on a 6+, remains in play, reroll any of the Sorcerer's to hit, to wound or to save rolls that you don't like. (Just the Sorcerer: not anything they're riding.) Actually pretty good: an easy cast, and Tzeentch Lords or Heroes can throw down in combat with the best of them.		# '''Orange Fire of Protection''' - cast on a 6+, remains in play, reroll any of the Sorcerer's to hit, to wound or to save rolls that you don't like. (Just the Sorcerer: not anything they're riding.) Actually pretty good: an easy cast, and Tzeentch Lords or Heroes can throw down in combat with the best of them.
	# Yellow Fire of Transmutation - another 6+ cast that remains in play, this one granting a 5+ Ward save to the Sorcerer, their mount, and any unit they joined. Notably, this one replaces the Daemonic Ward, allowing Tzeentch Daemon characters to stop worrying about magic weapons.		# '''Yellow Fire of Transmutation''' - another 6+ cast that remains in play, this one granting a 5+ Ward save to the Sorcerer, their mount, and any unit they joined. Notably, this one replaces the Daemonic Ward, allowing Tzeentch Daemon characters to stop worrying about magic weapons.
	# Green Fire of Mutation - a 9+ cast on an enemy unit that's not immune to psychology, which makes it play "stop hitting itself" for a turn: the unit fights a round of close combat against itself and takes a Panic test if enough casualties are inflicted. Some armies hate this - Lizardmen spring to mind, as their best fighters have multiple attacks but rely on Cold Blooded rather than full on immunity to psychology. Others, like Vampire Counts and Tomb Kings, don't give two tugs.		# '''Green Fire of Mutation''' - a 9+ cast on an enemy unit that's not immune to psychology, which makes it play "stop hitting itself" for a turn: the unit fights a round of close combat against itself and takes a Panic test if enough casualties are inflicted. Some armies hate this - Lizardmen spring to mind, as their best fighters have multiple attacks but rely on Cold Blooded rather than full on immunity to psychology. Others, like Vampire Counts and Tomb Kings, don't give two tugs.
	# Blue Fire of Metamorphosis - another 9+ cast for a dubiously reliable magic missile. 2d6 hits is good, Strength d6+1 is untrustworthy. Conventional Lores often give you an 8+ for a Strength you can rely on. Warp Lightning this ain't.		# '''Blue Fire of Metamorphosis''' - another 9+ cast for a dubiously reliable magic missile. 2d6 hits is good, Strength d6+1 is untrustworthy. Conventional Lores often give you an 8+ for a Strength you can rely on. Warp Lightning this ain't.
	# Indigo Fire of Change - on an 11+, every model in the target enemy unit takes a S2 hit, and any that die turn into Horrors, placed in contact with the front of the target unit and counting as having charged! This one's psychologically damaging to say the least: while Horrors aren't up to much in a scrap, they can take on anything that dies from a S2 hit. Big units of lightweight troops will tremble at the dubious prospect.		# '''Indigo Fire of Change''' - on an 11+, every model in the target enemy unit takes a S2 hit, and any that die turn into Horrors, placed in contact with the front of the target unit and counting as having charged! This one's psychologically damaging to say the least: while Horrors aren't up to much in a scrap, they can take on anything that dies from a S2 hit. Big units of lightweight troops will tremble at the dubious prospect.
	# Violet Fire of Tzeentch - 12+ cast, 6" range, single target model takes a Leadership test or DIES. No saves, no regenerating, no nothing. Given how easy it is for Tzeentch casters to fly, the short range isn't the drawback it usually is. This one's a gamble, but considering that it can snipe characters regardless of line of sight, being a unit, monstrous mountage, ANYTHING, it's worth a cast. If you're going terror-bombing with a Lord of Change or a Sorcerer on a Dragon, lead in with this horrible thing - cast it on your enemy's General and potentially watch their army crumble next turn.		# '''Violet Fire of Tzeentch''' - 12+ cast, 6" range, single target model takes a Leadership test or DIES. No saves, no regenerating, no nothing. Given how easy it is for Tzeentch casters to fly, the short range isn't the drawback it usually is. This one's a gamble, but considering that it can snipe characters regardless of line of sight, being a unit, monstrous mountage, ANYTHING, it's worth a cast. If you're going terror-bombing with a Lord of Change or a Sorcerer on a Dragon, lead in with this horrible thing - cast it on your enemy's General and potentially watch their army crumble next turn.
	# Red Fire of Alteration - I am fate, come round at last; I am also a mediocre magic missile, only a 5+ cast and with d6 hits at d6 Strength. All the usual problems of a d6 hits magic missile and you can't even count on the Strength. Swap it out for something a level 2 wizard simply can't cast, but don't expect it to do anything. Fire and Death have better equivalents and Shadow's Creeping Death knocks it into a cocked hat because NO ARMOUR SAVES.		# '''Red Fire of Alteration''' - I am fate, come round at last; I am also a mediocre magic missile, only a 5+ cast and with d6 hits at d6 Strength. All the usual problems of a d6 hits magic missile and you can't even count on the Strength. Swap it out for something a level 2 wizard simply can't cast, but don't expect it to do anything. Fire and Death have better equivalents and Shadow's Creeping Death knocks it into a cocked hat because NO ARMOUR SAVES.

	===Lore of Slaanesh===		===Lore of Slaanesh===

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Tactics

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	== Tactics ==		== Tactics ==

	===~~AMBUSH!~~===		===Know your Weaknesses and know your Strengths===

	The Beastman Ambush is a bit of a gimmick as, all else being equal, your Beast Herds will probably be doing the Ambushing and they only turn up where you want them slightly more than half the time. Nevertheless, it can work very well provided you stick to small Herds, with Warhounds on the table at the start, to fill up your Core slots, and then use your Specials for some more reliable troops (Chaos Warriors) to force engagements which the Beastmen then tip in your favour.

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	=== Synergies ===		=== Synergies ===
			===AMBUSH!===

			The Beastman Ambush is a bit of a gimmick as, all else being equal, your Beast Herds will probably be doing the Ambushing and they only turn up where you want them slightly more than half the time. Nevertheless, it can work very well provided you stick to small Herds, with Warhounds on the table at the start, to fill up your Core slots, and then use your Specials for some more reliable troops (Chaos Warriors) to force engagements which the Beastmen then tip in your favour.

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	* Dogs of War - only an option to Beast and Mortal armies, because no mercenary with two brain cells to rub together is going to work for a Bloodthirster and the Bloodthirster won't carry pocket change. Standouts are of course any of the ones that add shooting to the army (Ruglud's Armoured Orcs and Mengil's Manflayers are probably a better pick than human crossbowmen, unless you have a beard the size of a small country), but spare a thought for the Bearmen of Urslo who have a similar set of combat stats to Chaos Marauders but come on a more compact base.		* Dogs of War - only an option to Beast and Mortal armies, because no mercenary with two brain cells to rub together is going to work for a Bloodthirster and the Bloodthirster won't carry pocket change. Standouts are of course any of the ones that add shooting to the army (Ruglud's Armoured Orcs and Mengil's Manflayers are probably a better pick than human crossbowmen, unless you have a beard the size of a small country), but spare a thought for the Bearmen of Urslo who have a similar set of combat stats to Chaos Marauders but come on a more compact base.

			== Alternative Army Lists ==
			===Archaon's Horde===
			===Daemonic Legion===

	== Tactics ==		== Tactics ==

1d4chan>QuietBrowser: Addded a basic summary of the optional Chaos Mutations upgrades from "Chronicle 2004", whatever the feth that is. Can balancers break down which if any of these are actually worth taking?

2023-01-02T09:55:37Z

Addded a basic summary of the optional Chaos Mutations upgrades from "Chronicle 2004", whatever the feth that is. Can balancers break down which if any of these are actually worth taking?

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	* Plague Flail - would be better if it was actually a flail. Give me +2 S on my Soul Hunger turns and we'll negotiate.		* Plague Flail - would be better if it was actually a flail. Give me +2 S on my Soul Hunger turns and we'll negotiate.

			==Mutations==
			An optional rule for the Hordes of Chaos featured in an issue of [[White Dwarf] and later reprinted in Chronicles 2004, Chaos Mutations lets you actually get some mechanical benefit out of all those funky, gribbly freaky things that the Dark Gods slapped you with.

			Mechanically, Mutations are basically 0-1 Magic Items - you can only have one character with a specific mutation in your army, and each mutation's points value comes from your magic items allowance.

			* '''Wings:''' Costs 45 points, can't be combined with a steed, and gives you Fly.
			* '''Tentacle:''' Costs 15 points. The character can no longer use two-handed weapons or carry a battle standard, but counts as having a second hand weapon and can inflict -1 Attack on a single model in base contact.
			* '''Extra Arm:''' Costs 20 points, can either carry a secondary hand weapon for +1 attack (so if you take Additional Hand Weapon plus this, you get +2 Attacks total), or let you carry a shield whilst also having either two hand weapons or a two-handed weapon. No, you ''can't'' use two shields for +2 Armor Save, smart guy!
			* '''Cloven Hooves:''' Costs 10 points, +1 Movement. Doesn't stack with Serpent Body.
			* '''Horns:''' Costs 15 points, when charging the character gains +1 Attack that is resolved with a +1 Strength bonus.
			* '''Bestial Visage:''' Costs 15 points, character causes Fear.
			* '''Nurgling Infestation:''' Costs 15 points, Nurgle-Marked Only. Each model that attacks this character takes an automatic Strength 3 hit after their own attacks have been worked out, even if they kill this character first. Any wounds caused count towards combat resolution.
			* '''Secondary Jaws:''' Costs 25 points, Nurgle-Marked Only. This character has a bonus Attack that is Strength 2 but has the Always Strikes First and Ignores Armor Saves special abilities.
			* '''Massive Bulk:''' Costs 40 points, Nurgle-Marked Only. The character gains +1 Toughness but suffers a -1 Movement penalty, as does their mount if they have one.
			* '''Blood Fever:''' Costs 35 points, Khorne-Marked Only. This character can't '''ever''' lose their Frenzy, and all models that start their Movement phase within 2" of this character, friend or foe, become Frenzied for the remainder of the turn.
			* '''Deafening Bellow:''' Costs 15 points, Khorne-Marked Only. When this character charges, enemy models in base contact suffer a -1 to hit penalty on that turn.
			* '''Conjoined Familiar:''' Costs 40 points, Slaanesh-Marked Only. The character becomes a Level 1 Wizard with the Lore of Slaanesh; if they were already a Wizard, they gain +1 Spell.
			* '''Hellshriek:''' Costs 55 points, Slaanesh-Marked Only. Once per game, the character can emit a Hellshriek at the start of any Magic Phase to cause all Wizards on the board to immediately suffer a Miscast.
			* '''Serpent Body:''' Costs 20 points, Slaanesh-Marked Only. Character gains +2 Movement and +1 Initiative.
			* '''Distended Maw:''' Costs 50 points, Tzeentch-Marked Only. A character can only combine this mutation with a basic hand weapon. If this character hits and wounds with three or more attacks against a single Man-sized target, then that target is swallowed whole and automatically removed from the play with no saving throw, Ward save or Regeneration possible. Why is the [[/d/\|vore]] mutation associated with ''Tzeentch'' instead of Slaanesh?!
			* '''Tendrils of Tzeentch:''' Costs 65 points, Tzeentch-Marked Only. This character can re-roll any 1s rolled when casting, which can cause Irresistible Force and prevent Miscasts - but re-rolls of 1 cannot themselves be re-rolled.
			* '''Protean Form:''' Costs 55 points, Tzeentch-Marked Only. This character has Regeneration. Since the Crown of Everlasting Conquest already gives you Regeneration for ''50'' points, this ability is utterly pointless unless you're playing such a high-points game that you can field 2 Tzeentch-marked Lords.

	==Units Analysis==		==Units Analysis==

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	===Any Chaos God===		===Any Chaos God===

	* Chaos Disruption - while the main ranged threats to your Daemon Prince are not of a kind that uses Ballistic Skill to hit, this does help the big gribblies not get stand-and-shotted to death if they want to charge a unit with bows or what have you, and that's quite tempting. Pricey at 50 points but even an Exalted Daemon can afford it.		* '''Chaos Disruption''' - while the main ranged threats to your Daemon Prince are not of a kind that uses Ballistic Skill to hit, this does help the big gribblies not get stand-and-shotted to death if they want to charge a unit with bows or what have you, and that's quite tempting. Pricey at 50 points but even an Exalted Daemon can afford it.

	* Blade of the Ether - expensive at 45 points but some players swear by it, and it's not as if Daemon characters get great weapons. Bypassing armour saves is probably worth the expenditure on a Prince.		* '''Blade of the Ether''' - expensive at 45 points but some players swear by it, and it's not as if Daemon characters get great weapons. Bypassing armour saves is probably worth the expenditure on a Prince.

	* Radiance of Dark Glory - essentially a bit of insurance against Instability, but does nothing about the really humiliating "roll an 11 and disappear" problem. Looks better than it is; for the price, you're better off investing in combat kit and trying not to lose a round in the first place.		* '''Radiance of Dark Glory''' - essentially a bit of insurance against Instability, but does nothing about the really humiliating "roll an 11 and disappear" problem. Looks better than it is; for the price, you're better off investing in combat kit and trying not to lose a round in the first place.

	* Soul Hunger - the useful bit of ''hatred'' for a trifling 25 points, very good on a character which will be charging often and wanting to break enemies fast (since Daemons don't take hits back too well).		* '''Soul Hunger''' - the useful bit of ''hatred'' for a trifling 25 points, very good on a character which will be charging often and wanting to break enemies fast (since Daemons don't take hits back too well).

	* Spell Breaker - it's a Dispel Scroll, the chief advantage of which is that the Daemon doesn't need to be a wizard to carry it. If you have the 25 points going, slap it on and give your Sorcerer something nice.		* '''Spell Breaker''' - it's a Dispel Scroll, the chief advantage of which is that the Daemon doesn't need to be a wizard to carry it. If you have the 25 points going, slap it on and give your Sorcerer something nice.

	* Diabolic Splendour - now we're talking, 20 points for a proper Ward save that transfers to any unit the Daemon joins? That's a bargain.		* '''Diabolic Splendour''' - now we're talking, 20 points for a proper Ward save that transfers to any unit the Daemon joins? That's a bargain.

	* Master of Mortals - allows the Daemon to lead a Mortal army, i.e. putting Mortals in Core and everyone else in Special. At 5 points, fills a lot of gaps if you want the option.		* '''Master of Mortals''' - allows the Daemon to lead a Mortal army, i.e. putting Mortals in Core and everyone else in Special. At 5 points, fills a lot of gaps if you want the option.

	* Unliving Idol - same thing, but for Beasts and twice the price for some reason. Gavin whyyyyyy?		* '''Unliving Idol''' - same thing, but for Beasts and twice the price for some reason. Gavin whyyyyyy?

	===Khorne===		===Khorne===

	* Collar of Khorne - Magic Resistance 2? on something that'll be flying around by itself, attracting every missile and hex on the planet? for 25 points? I'll take two, and three on Tuesdays.		* '''Collar of Khorne''' - Magic Resistance 2? on something that'll be flying around by itself, attracting every missile and hex on the planet? for 25 points? I'll take two, and three on Tuesdays.

	* Axe of Khorne - Killing Blow for 25 points is OK, but it's no Blade of the Ether and they can't be combined. Recommend avoidance.		* '''Axe of Khorne''' - Killing Blow for 25 points is OK, but it's no Blade of the Ether and they can't be combined. Recommend avoidance.

	* Armour of Khorne - a 4+ armour save is merely adequate, and the house recommends taking an Exalted Champion on a Juggernaut if you want saves.		* '''Armour of Khorne''' - a 4+ armour save is merely adequate, and the house recommends taking an Exalted Champion on a Juggernaut if you want saves.

	* Might of Khorne - +1 S for 20 points, absolutely fine and dandy as filler, mulch yourself some sword and board infantry.		* '''Might of Khorne''' - +1 S for 20 points, absolutely fine and dandy as filler, mulch yourself some sword and board infantry.

	===Slaanesh===		===Slaanesh===

	* Aura of Slaanesh - if you have nothing better to do with 30 points, take this and inflict a minor Leadership malus, it may help. But it costs the same as Soporific Musk, so take that first.		* '''Aura of Slaanesh''' - if you have nothing better to do with 30 points, take this and inflict a minor Leadership malus, it may help. But it costs the same as Soporific Musk, so take that first.

	* Soporific Musk - oh, this is '''solid''', far more so than it first appears. For 20 points, a Daemon Prince may well be hitting opponents on '''twos''', which is just plain nasty. The Initiative part is a writeoff since the Prince will be striking first in the first place, but the Weapon Skill is worth it alone.		* '''Soporific Musk''' - oh, this is '''solid''', far more so than it first appears. For 20 points, a Daemon Prince may well be hitting opponents on '''twos''', which is just plain nasty. The Initiative part is a writeoff since the Prince will be striking first in the first place, but the Weapon Skill is worth it alone.

	* Gaze of Acquiescence - combines reasonably well with Aura of Slaanesh but that's 50 points down the tube for a Leadership gimmick that might not work. It's not bad but you probably have better things to do with your points.		* '''Gaze of Acquiescence''' - combines reasonably well with Aura of Slaanesh but that's 50 points down the tube for a Leadership gimmick that might not work. It's not bad but you probably have better things to do with your points.

	===Tzeentch===		===Tzeentch===

	* Tzeentch's Will - really expensive, but possibly worth it on a character who could be casting a LOT of spells and really doesn't want to Miscast. Also works for saving throws, to hit rolls, and everything else Second Sign of Amul does.		* '''Tzeentch's Will''' - really expensive, but possibly worth it on a character who could be casting a LOT of spells and really doesn't want to Miscast. Also works for saving throws, to hit rolls, and everything else Second Sign of Amul does.

	* Spell Destroyer - a super Dispel Scroll with a 4+ chance of permanently destroying the spell, what's not to like for 50 points?		* '''Spell Destroyer''' - a super Dispel Scroll with a 4+ chance of permanently destroying the spell, what's not to like for 50 points?

	* Master of Sorcery - it's a Spell Familiar, and given the breadth of Tzeentch spells it probably won't hurt to pick up.		* '''Master of Sorcery''' - it's a Spell Familiar, and given the breadth of Tzeentch spells it probably won't hurt to pick up.

	* Power Vortex - trading one wound for d3 power dice when you really need them is cast iron. In a vacuum this looks really good but I do wonder what kind of Tzeentch army is going to be stuck for dice.		* '''Power Vortex''' - trading one wound for d3 power dice when you really need them is cast iron. In a vacuum this looks really good but I do wonder what kind of Tzeentch army is going to be stuck for dice.

	===Nurgle===		===Nurgle===

	* Cloud of Flies - hit bonuses and penalties in close combat are few and far between, and this is a good one for the relatively tough and attrition based Nurgle approach. Too pricey for an Exalted Daemon, but worth it on a Prince.		* '''Cloud of Flies''' - hit bonuses and penalties in close combat are few and far between, and this is a good one for the relatively tough and attrition based Nurgle approach. Too pricey for an Exalted Daemon, but worth it on a Prince.

	* Stream of Corruption - OK, this is good. 30 points for what appears to be a re-usable Breath Weapon (usable in any of the Chaos player's turns!), with good enough Strength and save modifier to melt light infantry. Excellent work on a cheap (ish) Exalted Daemon.		* '''Stream of Corruption''' - OK, this is good. 30 points for what appears to be a re-usable Breath Weapon (usable in any of the Chaos player's turns!), with good enough Strength and save modifier to melt light infantry. Excellent work on a cheap (ish) Exalted Daemon.

	* Plague Flail - would be better if it was actually a flail. Give me +2 S on my Soul Hunger turns and we'll negotiate.		* '''Plague Flail''' - would be better if it was actually a flail. Give me +2 S on my Soul Hunger turns and we'll negotiate.

	==Mutations==		==Mutations==