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Zombie Pirates of the Vampire Coast

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	3. Syreen but better: Take a wight,give him a brace of pistols. Mad mullets spyglass,light armour and an enchanted shield.		3. Syreen but better: Take a wight,give him a brace of pistols. Mad mullets spyglass,light armour and an enchanted shield.
	You get who can shoot other characters/champions out of units on a 4+ with t4 4+		You get a t4 body who can shoot other characters/champions out of units on a 4+ with 4+ armour.

	4. The sweeper: give a wight bloody Nora’s whip and stick him with some pistoliers, yes he loses killing,blow but 3+d3+2 s4 attacks on the charge will wipe a front rank with a little luck.		4. The sweeper: give a wight bloody Nora’s whip and stick him with some pistoliers, yes he loses killing,blow but 3+d3+2 s4 attacks on the charge will wipe a front rank with a little luck.

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Zombie Pirates of the Vampire Coast

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	2. Slann gold BSB the wight becomes a level 1 caster and vampire coasts only way to use spells, if you ever get a spell off be surprised. The real benefit is an extra dispel dice. BSB of some kind are integral to vampire coast as you will lose most combats.		2. Slann gold BSB the wight becomes a level 1 caster and vampire coasts only way to use spells, if you ever get a spell off be surprised. The real benefit is an extra dispel dice. BSB of some kind are integral to vampire coast as you will lose most combats.

	3. Syreen but better: Take a wight,give him a brace of pistols. Mad mullets spyglass, ~~gentleman Jenkins compass~~ and ~~firewater~~.		3. Syreen but better: Take a wight,give him a brace of pistols. Mad mullets spyglass,light armour and an enchanted shield.
	You get ~~a scouting character~~ who can ~~target~~ characters ~~within~~ units with ~~his bs3 pistol with no penalties, has a one time breath weapon and will generally cause laughs for all.~~		You get who can shoot other characters/champions out of units on a 4+ with t4 4+
	~~Remember if he does get charged your brace of pistols can count as an additional hand weapon so~~ 4 ~~killing blow attacks after the first turn.~~

	4. The sweeper: give a wight bloody Nora’s whip and stick him with some pistoliers, yes he loses killing,blow but 3+d3+2 s4 attacks on the charge will wipe a front rank with a little luck.		4. The sweeper: give a wight bloody Nora’s whip and stick him with some pistoliers, yes he loses killing,blow but 3+d3+2 s4 attacks on the charge will wipe a front rank with a little luck.

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	''Vampire fleet captain''		''Vampire fleet captain''
	it’s a wight from the vampire list with different equipment.So innate magical killing blow attacks while hand weapons are used means additional hand weapons, or a brace of pistols are of course fun too(but remember undead can’t stand and shoot). These guys are the the edge you need to win combats, bother charging or protect luthor. Some ways to use them are as follows;		it’s a wight from the vampire list with different equipment.So innate magical killing blow attacks while hand weapons are used means additional hand weapons, or a brace of pistols are of course fun too(but remember undead can’t stand and shoot). These guys are the the edge you need to win combats, bother charging or protect luthor.

			Some ways to use them are as follows;

	1: obligatory bodyguard for luthor with light armour,hw and bloody bills buckler and wharf rats 5+ 5++ d6s2 poison attacks every round as well as 3 killing blow basic attacks.		1: obligatory bodyguard for luthor with light armour,hw and bloody bills buckler and wharf rats 5+ 5++ d6s2 poison attacks every round as well as 3 killing blow basic attacks.

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 FinAnon has never played with this list but has made some theoretical calculations. In a 2000 points list the only wizard could be a count or a lord and that fourth dispel dice and fifth power dice are very valuable so I'm calculcating with a lord. The lord will have Book of Arkhan. Now the army has three power level 4 bounds which are very annoying to dispel with just one dice. If the markers are in good places, the enemy must sacricife two dispel dice to counter each. Or the marchblockers just appear in random places. After these comes Book of Arkhan and depending on situation, the enemy might want to cancel it without risks so two dispel dice is absolutely needed. The best thing about bounds is the reliability, no miscasts will end your magic phase abruptly. And finally comes normal spells from the lord. The vampire will absolutely surely have Invocation of Nehek so four summons in one turn, the enemy will have hard time to dispel them all. You'll cast two spells in a turn with five dice and since you'll have three spells, at least two will be useful (Hand of Dust won't). The opponent's magic phase could be very annoying but with four dispel dice at least that one crucial spell could propably be dispelled.
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-WD 306.
+WD 306/lustria campaign
 ===Army of the Cairns (White Dwarf supplemental list)===

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Alternative Army Lists

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	===Army List Variants: the Back of the Book===		===Army of the Cairns (White Dwarf supplemental list)===

			Kemmler's back, baby, and he's brought the fourth edition Undead list with him. Well. Kinda-sorta. Some of the unit types will be familiar to pre-Vampire-Counts players, others are reminiscent of the early Tomb Kings army from fifth edition, some are completely new. Thematically, it's an army fresh out of the vaguely Celtic-style tombs of pre-Bretonni civilisations on the edges of Athel Loren, led by an extremely accomplished Necromancer who's cranked the entire Lore of Necromancy into overdrive, reducing casting values or adjusting effects to make every spell that bit more efficient. Such is the breadth of Kemmler's accomplishments that he's even managed to make Hand of Dust look palatable (it's a niche case, but Kemmler has the capacity to facetank a Stegadon, Giant, or other large model without magical attacks and try for the one-hit kill over time).

			{Full writeup to follow: gotta dig the White Dwarf issues out.}
			===Unofficial Army List Variants: the Back of the Book===

	Each Bloodline has its own wild and wacky theme force tucked away in a two page spread at the back of the book. All move units around between slots and adjust the numbers you're allowed to take, and three of them invite in units from other lists.		Each Bloodline has its own wild and wacky theme force tucked away in a two page spread at the back of the book. All move units around between slots and adjust the numbers you're allowed to take, and three of them invite in units from other lists.
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	*'''Necromancer's Army''': Lose all Vampires, Ghouls, Bat Swarms and the Black Coach. Dire Wolves move into Special. Everything not a Necromancer gets a points break. Essentially, you're giving up on the combat potential and cool factor of the Vampire in favour of an absolute barrage of spells and combined arms play to compensate for your lack of really strong heroes.		*'''Necromancer's Army''': Lose all Vampires, Ghouls, Bat Swarms and the Black Coach. Dire Wolves move into Special. Everything not a Necromancer gets a points break. Essentially, you're giving up on the combat potential and cool factor of the Vampire in favour of an absolute barrage of spells and combined arms play to compensate for your lack of really strong heroes.



	~~===Army of the Cairns (White Dwarf supplemental list)===~~

	Kemmler's back, baby, and he's brought the fourth edition Undead list with him. Well. Kinda-sorta. Some of the unit types will be familiar to pre-Vampire-Counts players, others are reminiscent of the early Tomb Kings army from fifth edition, some are completely new. Thematically, it's an army fresh out of the vaguely Celtic-style tombs of pre-Bretonni civilisations on the edges of Athel Loren, led by an extremely accomplished Necromancer who's cranked the entire Lore of Necromancy into overdrive, reducing casting values or adjusting effects to make every spell that bit more efficient. Such is the breadth of Kemmler's accomplishments that he's even managed to make Hand of Dust look palatable (it's a niche case, but Kemmler has the capacity to facetank a Stegadon, Giant, or other large model without magical attacks and try for the one-hit kill over time).

	~~{Full writeup to follow: gotta dig the White Dwarf issues out.}~~

	== Tactics ==		== Tactics ==

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	# '''Curse of Years.''' A high casting value means bring your Power Stones or hope you get this on a Vampire Lord, because a level 2 is going to struggle to get this one off on the maximum three dice. However, once it IS off, you'll be leaving it in play for at least a turn, because it's so damn good. The Curse of Years deals wounds that ignore armour saves to every single model in a target unit on a 6+. Then, at the start of your next magic phase, on a 5+. Then, at the start of your NEXT magic phase, on a 4+. Note that you can be cheeky and let it resolve on one target, then end it and cast it on another target and get two sets of rolls in one turn (and also have the wizard cast other spells in between, which you'll probably need to do). The best thing about this spell is that it eats enemy Power dice like nobody's business: nobody wants to let the Curse tick down and so most opponents will forgo casting at least one of their own spells to get this thing shifted.		# '''Curse of Years.''' A high casting value means bring your Power Stones or hope you get this on a Vampire Lord, because a level 2 is going to struggle to get this one off on the maximum three dice. However, once it IS off, you'll be leaving it in play for at least a turn, because it's so damn good. The Curse of Years deals wounds that ignore armour saves to every single model in a target unit on a 6+. Then, at the start of your next magic phase, on a 5+. Then, at the start of your NEXT magic phase, on a 4+. Note that you can be cheeky and let it resolve on one target, then end it and cast it on another target and get two sets of rolls in one turn (and also have the wizard cast other spells in between, which you'll probably need to do). The best thing about this spell is that it eats enemy Power dice like nobody's business: nobody wants to let the Curse tick down and so most opponents will forgo casting at least one of their own spells to get this thing shifted.

	==Magic Items ~~Companion~~==		==Magic Items==
	We are trying here to highlight the key and crucial magic items in the list, I'm sure there will be several good ones not mentioned.		We are trying here to highlight the key and crucial magic items in the list, I'm sure there will be several good ones not mentioned.

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Bloodlines

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	==Bloodlines==		==Bloodlines==

	Unlike the later editions of WFB, Glorious Sixth the King of Editions and Edition of Kings makes you pick a Bloodline for every Vampire in your army, and makes sure the choice matters even if you don't touch a single power. Bloodlines are so atomic to how your army plays that they are worth talking about up top. FinAnon recommends strongly Blood Dragons and Strigoi. Keeping your general "alive" is the number one priority with this army. Blood Dragons can have easily 1+ 5++ which can withstand most of the blows. Strigoi get ~~automatical~~ 5++ and can buy regeneration which is usually another 4++. The Carstein Ring also makes the general almost unkillable but without any bonuses compared to the previous ones.		Unlike the later editions of WFB, Glorious Sixth the King of Editions and Edition of Kings makes you pick a Bloodline for every Vampire in your army, and makes sure the choice matters even if you don't touch a single power. Bloodlines are so atomic to how your army plays that they are worth talking about up top. FinAnon recommends strongly Blood Dragons and Strigoi. Keeping your general "alive" is the number one priority with this army. Blood Dragons can have easily 1+ 5++ which can withstand most of the blows. Strigoi get an automatic 5++ and can buy the regeneration which is usually another 4++. The Carstein Ring also makes the general almost unkillable but without any bonuses compared to the previous ones.

	* ''von Carstein'' The generic Dracula Lords are, superficially, the weakest Bloodline, having powers that are mostly situational or not as immediately impressive. However, they can summon on a "free" Bat Swarm/d3+1 Fell Bats for 65 points or d3 Direwolves for 25 points that can come on from any table edge, enabling a very strong march blocking ability. They also offer a very nice +1 combat resolution that stacks with a Thrall's Battle Standard, and the ability for Undead to march within 18" instead of 12", without which Vampire armies tend to break up in the late game with some units falling out of place. Most of all, they alone can wield Vlad the Rad, Vampire Dad's von Carstein Ring, which can make them the most unkillable out of all the Vampires at the low low price of ''all your magic item allowance''. All in all the Von Carsteins do the most to support their army and control the battlefield, even if they don't look like all that on paper.		* ''von Carstein'' The generic Dracula Lords are, superficially, the weakest Bloodline, having powers that are mostly situational or not as immediately impressive. However, they can summon on a "free" Bat Swarm/d3+1 Fell Bats for 65 points or d3 Direwolves for 25 points that can come on from any table edge, enabling a very strong march blocking ability. They also offer a very nice +1 combat resolution that stacks with a Thrall's Battle Standard, and the ability for Undead to march within 18" instead of 12", without which Vampire armies tend to break up in the late game with some units falling out of place. Most of all, they alone can wield Vlad the Rad, Vampire Dad's von Carstein Ring, which can make them the most unkillable out of all the Vampires at the low low price of ''all your magic item allowance''. All in all the Von Carsteins do the most to support their army and control the battlefield, even if they don't look like all that on paper.

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