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Rare Units

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	*'''Giant:''' 25 Points more expensive than the Chaos Giant, but better for it even though not all of its "Pick up and..." rolls kill the target. Unlike the other Giant this one is Immune to Psychology (useful if you're bringing in low Ld troops) and it can regain lost wounds with one of its attacks against big things.		*'''Giant:''' 25 Points more expensive than the Chaos Giant, but better for it even though not all of its "Pick up and..." rolls kill the target. Unlike the other Giant this one is Immune to Psychology (useful if you're bringing in low Ld troops) and it can regain lost wounds with one of its attacks against big things.

	*'''Jabberslythe:'''Another monster with exactly the same cost as the Cygor. Except this one can fly. But still has only T5 with no save. It's almost as if someone hates beastmen. Aura of Madness is okay, it would be better if it was 3D6 because in most armies you'll only ever do 3 wounds maximum. It's range attack is pretty poor, because it's only one hit and it will probably miss half its shots. Spewing acid over things that harm it is pretty good, but it wont really deter anyone from beating it up. Keep it away from anything tough, and it will do okay.		*'''Jabberslythe:''' Another monster with exactly the same cost as the Cygor. Except this one can fly. But still has only T5 with no save. It's almost as if someone hates beastmen. Aura of Madness is okay, it would be better if it was 3D6 because in most armies you'll only ever do 3 wounds maximum. It's range attack is pretty poor, because it's only one hit and it will probably miss half its shots. Spewing acid over things that harm it is pretty good, but it wont really deter anyone from beating it up. Keep it away from anything tough, and it will do okay.

	*'''Skull Cannon of Khorne:''' A great choice! A mobile cannon with 4 wounds and a 5+ Ward Save. Just watch out for those 2+ wards against flaming attacks!		*'''Skull Cannon of Khorne:''' A great choice! A mobile cannon with 4 wounds and a 5+ Ward Save. Just watch out for those 2+ wards against flaming attacks!

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Heroes

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	===Heroes===		===Heroes===
	*'''Wargor:'''Unless you want a cheap BSB, you'll probably only see him around for his Beast Banner (which grants a unit +1S) which is pretty awesome in units of Warriors or units of Bestigors. He is fragile, so at least give him heavy armour, a shield and Gnarled Hide for a 2+ armour save. Even then make sure you have another character/champion in the unit, Eye of the Gods now applies to him and he has to declare and accept challenges- you don't want your BSB turning into a spawnnnnnnnaAAAAAAARRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!		*'''Wargor:''' Unless you want a cheap BSB, you'll probably only see him around for his Beast Banner (which grants a unit +1S) which is pretty awesome in units of Warriors or units of Bestigors. He is fragile, so at least give him heavy armour, a shield and Gnarled Hide for a 2+ armour save. Even then make sure you have another character/champion in the unit, Eye of the Gods now applies to him and he has to declare and accept challenges- you don't want your BSB turning into a spawnnnnnnnaAAAAAAARRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!

	*'''Gorebull:''' Not quite as good as a Doombull but decent none the less and makes for a cheap Chaos Lord stand-in. Like above, best used in units of Trolls with the Blackened Plate to make them immune to flaming attacks and frenzied.		*'''Gorebull:''' Not quite as good as a Doombull but decent none the less and makes for a cheap Chaos Lord stand-in. Like above, best used in units of Trolls with the Blackened Plate to make them immune to flaming attacks and frenzied.

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	*'''Skarr Bloodwrath:''' A new character introduced in ET: Archaon, Skarr is a frightening melee monster, with WS8, S/T5 and I7, with paired magic weapons that grant d3 S7 Impact hits and 7 S7 attacks on the charge thanks to MoK. That shit's BRUTAL. Even more hilarious, he's actively encouraged to go on killing sprees; for every challenge he wins or monster he kills, he adds to a special tally. If he dies, he gets to return on a d6+Tally roll of 4+, back with d3 Wounds and cured of any effects not caused by Eye of the Gods. If anything, his greatest weakness is his inability to mount, making him forced to footslog it along and risk dying before he can kill something big.		*'''Skarr Bloodwrath:''' A new character introduced in ET: Archaon, Skarr is a frightening melee monster, with WS8, S/T5 and I7, with paired magic weapons that grant d3 S7 Impact hits and 7 S7 attacks on the charge thanks to MoK. That shit's BRUTAL. Even more hilarious, he's actively encouraged to go on killing sprees; for every challenge he wins or monster he kills, he adds to a special tally. If he dies, he gets to return on a d6+Tally roll of 4+, back with d3 Wounds and cured of any effects not caused by Eye of the Gods. If anything, his greatest weakness is his inability to mount, making him forced to footslog it along and risk dying before he can kill something big.

	*'''Isabella the Accursed:''' Oh, is ~~THIS~~ gonna be a kick in the nuts for Vlad. Issy's now a Level 3 Wizard for Lore of Vampires and Daemon Lore of Nurgle, makes undead units she wounded in combat take d3 additional unsaveable wounds, and enemies in base contact during the Magic Phase takes an armour-ignoring S1 hit. Her statline adds +1 WS/T, becomes Initiative 8 (Wait...we sure this is Nurgle?) and A6. Oh, and she replaces her chalice with a new Plague Chalice that becomes a grenade. After placing the small blast on herself, she moves it in a direction ahead of her 3d6 inches and anyone who touches it must now test Toughness or take an unsavable wound. Oh, and she has Hatred (Undead), so totally throw her in front of Mortarch Vlad.		*'''Isabella the Accursed:''' Oh,THIS is gonna be a kick in the nuts for Vlad. Issy's now a Level 3 Wizard for Lore of Vampires and Daemon Lore of Nurgle, makes undead units she wounded in combat take d3 additional unsaveable wounds, and enemies in base contact during the Magic Phase takes an armour-ignoring S1 hit. Her statline adds +1 WS/T, becomes Initiative 8 (Wait...we sure this is Nurgle?) and A6. Oh, and she replaces her chalice with a new Plague Chalice that becomes a grenade. After placing the small blast on herself, she moves it in a direction ahead of her 3d6 inches and anyone who touches it must now test Toughness or take an unsavable wound. Oh, and she has Hatred (Undead), so totally throw her in front of Mortarch Vlad.

	*'''Skarbrand:''' He can't fly, but at M8 that's not so bad. With maxed out WS and Initiative, 6s in Strength and attacks, and 6 Toughness 5 Wounds for survival, he's a monster in a melee. Add in the fact he ignores armor with his attacks, his S5 Breath Weapon, permanent Frenzy and inducing Hatred in every unit on the table, friend or foe, and you got someone who guarantees bloodshed.		*'''Skarbrand:''' He can't fly, but at M8 that's not so bad. With maxed out WS and Initiative, 6s in Strength and attacks, and 6 Toughness 5 Wounds for survival, he's a monster in a melee. Add in the fact he ignores armor with his attacks, his S5 Breath Weapon, permanent Frenzy and inducing Hatred in every unit on the table, friend or foe, and you got someone who guarantees bloodshed.

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Lords

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	**'''Unfettered Fury:''' Basically the same Thirster you're already using. Even the same cost.		**'''Unfettered Fury:''' Basically the same Thirster you're already using. Even the same cost.
	**'''Insensate Rage:''' 100 more points for Frenzy, HKB, and a Great Weapon. Simply put, if you charge it, it will DIE, no fucks given about ASL. But 100 points? Really?		**'''Insensate Rage:''' 100 more points for Frenzy, HKB, and a Great Weapon. Simply put, if you charge it, it will DIE, no fucks given about ASL. But 100 points? Really?
	**'''Wrath of [[Khorne]]:''' +~~110~~ points gives you a bevy of boosts. Magic Resistance 3, Frenzy, Devastating Charge, Hatred (Characters) that gives him a bonus +3" when charging any. He also gets an S5 Flaming Breath Weapon and a set of weapons giving it a middle-ground between his little brothers: +2S on the first round of Close Combat, and always issues an extra attack.		**'''Wrath of [[Khorne]]:''' +150 points gives you a bevy of boosts. Magic Resistance 3, Frenzy, Devastating Charge, Hatred (Characters) that gives him a bonus +3" when charging any. He also gets an S5 Flaming Breath Weapon and a set of weapons giving it a middle-ground between his little brothers: +2S on the first round of Close Combat, and always issues an extra attack.

	*'''[[Lord of Change]]:''' he's supposed to be the greater daemon of the god of magic, so you'd think he'd be a great wizard, but the current bland Daemon book makes him no better than the other two wizardy greaters. He is automatically a level 2 wizard and can be upgraded to up to level 4, making him slightly cheaper (10 points) than the other casting greaters when fully upgraded. He gets to reroll 1s on his channeling attempts, otherwise, he has no special advantages in terms of spellcasting; and only a couple of the random daemonic gifts affect spellcasting, so don't expect any help there. He has access to Lore of Metal (which is OK) and Lore of Tzeentch (which is also OK, but wildly unpredictable). Lastly, he's OK in combat, especially against units he can thunderstomp- however, he has Unstable, plus he can't dish out the same melee death as the Thirster or Keeper. He's not all downside though- he can fly, and is fairly tough for non-cannons to kill (T6, W5, 5+ ward that can reroll 1s). But if you're looking for a good spellcaster, you may want to look elsewhere.		*'''[[Lord of Change]]:''' he's supposed to be the greater daemon of the god of magic, so you'd think he'd be a great wizard, but the current bland Daemon book makes him no better than the other two wizardy greaters. He is automatically a level 2 wizard and can be upgraded to up to level 4, making him slightly cheaper (10 points) than the other casting greaters when fully upgraded. He gets to reroll 1s on his channeling attempts, otherwise, he has no special advantages in terms of spellcasting; and only a couple of the random daemonic gifts affect spellcasting, so don't expect any help there. He has access to Lore of Metal (which is OK) and Lore of Tzeentch (which is also OK, but wildly unpredictable). Lastly, he's OK in combat, especially against units he can thunderstomp- however, he has Unstable, plus he can't dish out the same melee death as the Thirster or Keeper. He's not all downside though- he can fly, and is fairly tough for non-cannons to kill (T6, W5, 5+ ward that can reroll 1s). But if you're looking for a good spellcaster, you may want to look elsewhere.
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	*'''Chaos Lord:''' The new Lord rules have been good for Chaos. You can now quite comfortably squeeze in a combat lord and a Level 4 in a 2000 point list. One of the best lords in the game, coat him in thick armour and a nice ward save and send him in at the deep end. Using Tzeentch can make you almost un-killable, Nurgle can make you un-hittable. Slaanesh isn't as popular because he has a meaty leadership 9, but if you are prone to running away like a sissy girl when your wardogs blow up then it may help you out. Khorne gives you an extra attack, which is always handy. Chaos Lords don't usually need Magic Weapons thanks to their high statline, but If you don't want to give your Lord a special mount or specific Magic Weapon, you'll usually be better off paying the extra 25 points and getting a Doombull as their statline is better for the job.		*'''Chaos Lord:''' The new Lord rules have been good for Chaos. You can now quite comfortably squeeze in a combat lord and a Level 4 in a 2000 point list. One of the best lords in the game, coat him in thick armour and a nice ward save and send him in at the deep end. Using Tzeentch can make you almost un-killable, Nurgle can make you un-hittable. Slaanesh isn't as popular because he has a meaty leadership 9, but if you are prone to running away like a sissy girl when your wardogs blow up then it may help you out. Khorne gives you an extra attack, which is always handy. Chaos Lords don't usually need Magic Weapons thanks to their high statline, but If you don't want to give your Lord a special mount or specific Magic Weapon, you'll usually be better off paying the extra 25 points and getting a Doombull as their statline is better for the job.

	*'''Chaos Sorcerer Lord:''' More expensive than his Beastman counterpart, but makes up for it by being able to take armour and respectable mounts. Tool him up anyway you want, but make sure his armour save is 2+ or better and he has (at least) a 4+ ward save as it's really easy for warriors to do and due to Eye of the Gods, he could very well end up in Challenges, though luckily for you, you are not a smelly elf mage in a cowardly robe. He is only Toughness and Strength 4, but you always give him unholy strike and sword of striking. A single attack with 2's to hit and 2's to wound (with d3 wounds to boot) means he's likely to ruin that smart ass character trying to pick on your wizard. If you want him just to get a tough lvl 4 wizard to defend against enemy magic you'll be better off with a Great Bray-Shaman.		*'''Chaos Sorcerer Lord:''' More expensive than his Beastman counterpart, but makes up for it by being able to take armour and respectable mounts. Tool him up anyway you want, but make sure his armour save is 2+ or better and he has (at least) a 4+ ward save as it's really easy for warriors to do and due to Eye of the Gods, he could very well end up in Challenges, though luckily for you, you are not a smelly elf mage in a cowardly robe. He is only Toughness and Strength 4, but you always give him unholy strike and sword of striking. A single attack with 2's to hit and 2's to wound (with d3 wounds to boot) means he's likely to ruin that smart ass character trying to pick on your wizard. If you want him just to get a tough lvl 4 wizard to defend against enemy magic you'll be better off with a Great Bray-Shaman.

	===Heroes===		===Heroes===

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Rare Units

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	*'''Plagueclaw Catapult''': More Skaven artillery. Like the Warp Lightning Cannon, the Plagueclaw Catapult loses out to its Chaos counterpart, the Hellcannon, which is better in almost every way (with that the Plagueclaw doesn't kill your wizards when it misfires or attempts to charge enemy units).		*'''Plagueclaw Catapult''': More Skaven artillery. Like the Warp Lightning Cannon, the Plagueclaw Catapult loses out to its Chaos counterpart, the Hellcannon, which is better in almost every way (with that the Plagueclaw doesn't kill your wizards when it misfires or attempts to charge enemy units).

	*'''Stormfiends:''' Not so hot here as they are in their home army, since they're competing with all the other monstrosities Chaos has. If you really want survivable mobile firepower, then a nice block or two loaded up with Ratling Guns might be worth it, but you really need to consider them carefully.		*'''Stormfiends:''' Not so hot here as they are in their home army, since they're competing with all the other monstrosities Chaos has. If you really want survivable mobile firepower, then a nice block or two loaded up with Ratling Guns might be worth it, but you really need to consider them carefully. Or, take a horde of them, with shock gauntlets, and add a tooled up Gorebull with Beast Banner. Sit back and laugh with glee as they wreck any and all infantry units they see, regardless of armour.

	==Building your army==		==Building your army==

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Rare Units

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	*'''Mutalith Vortex Beast:''' And finally we have beast number 9. <s>Slaanesh BLASPHEMY!</s> Tzeentch would be proud. The Mutalith Vortex Beast is the monster that all Chaos Spawn wish they could be. He carries around a portal to the Chaos Wastes on his back and comes with a built in bound spell that causes its targets to mutate and... um... die. Plus he has an armour and regeneration save, so he is tougher than all the other beasts in the rare section. Aura of Mutation is totally random, but quite good against elves. If you are using Nurgle magic the two go hand in hand.		*'''Mutalith Vortex Beast:''' And finally we have beast number 9. <s>Slaanesh BLASPHEMY!</s> Tzeentch would be proud. The Mutalith Vortex Beast is the monster that all Chaos Spawn wish they could be. He carries around a portal to the Chaos Wastes on his back and comes with a built in bound spell that causes its targets to mutate and... um... die. Plus he has an armour and regeneration save, so he is tougher than all the other beasts in the rare section. Aura of Mutation is totally random, but quite good against elves. If you are using Nurgle magic the two go hand in hand.

	*'''Wrathmongers''': Though launched as part of the Grand Legion of the Everchosen, Warriors of Chaos and Legions of Chaos can use these babies too. Minimum unit size of five, 55 points each, Infantry sporting a Movement 4, Weapon Skill 6, BS 3, Strength 5, Toughness 4, Wounds 3, Initiative 5, Attacks 3, Leadership 8 profile. Champion upgrade costs +10 points and he gets +1 Attack and ability to receive Eye of the Gods. They wield Paired Wrath-flails, which gives them Extra Attack, Impact Hits (D3) and +1 Strength during first round of combat. So a minimum-sized squad with a champion is dealing out 5D3 S5 Impact Hits on a charge, followed up by 26 (3 attacks + Frenzy + Paired Weapons) S6 WS6 attacks in the first round and 26 S5 WS6 attacks in all subsequent rounds. Tarpits will melt away pretty quick if you can slam these babies into 'em.		*'''Wrathmongers''': Though launched as part of the Grand Legion of the Everchosen, Warriors of Chaos and Legions of Chaos can use these babies too. Minimum unit size of five, 55 points each, Infantry sporting a Movement 4, Weapon Skill 6, BS 3, Strength 5, Toughness 4, Wounds 3, Initiative 5, Attacks 3, Leadership 8 profile. Champion upgrade costs +10 points and he gets +1 Attack and ability to receive Eye of the Gods. They wield Paired Wrath-flails, which gives them Extra Attack, Impact Hits (D3) and +1 Strength during first round of combat. So a minimum-sized squad with a champion is dealing out 5D3 S5 Impact Hits on a charge, followed up by 26 (3 attacks + Frenzy + Paired Weapons) S6 WS6 attacks in the first round and 26 S5 WS6 attacks in all subsequent rounds. Tarpits will melt away pretty quick if you can slam these babies into 'em. Also have a really stupid name. Wrathmongers: those who deal in or create wrath. Literally, they make people angry. Wow. Scary name.

	*'''Hell Pit Abomination''': What, another giant monster? This thing has the benefit of some truly devastating, if random, attacks, and the potential to come back to life if it dies. Just keep it away from any flaming attacks. The Mutalith wishes it was this random.		*'''Hell Pit Abomination''': What, another giant monster? This thing has the benefit of some truly devastating, if random, attacks, and the potential to come back to life if it dies. Just keep it away from any flaming attacks. The Mutalith wishes it was this random.

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Named Heroes

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	*'''Moonclaw, Son of Morrslieb'''		*'''Moonclaw, Son of Morrslieb'''
	...No. To put it another way, FUCK no. This guy is awful in Beastmen, worse in Legions of Chaos, and now you want to take him when you might be taking Skaven, known for their massive unit sizes and crappy Leadership? If you want artillery, take Hellcannons, Skullcannons and Warp-lightning Cannons, or even Warp-Jezzails. Leave this piece of shit where he belongs.		...No. To put it another way, FUCK no. This guy is awful in Beastmen, worse in Legions of Chaos, and now you want to take him when you might be taking Skaven, known for their massive unit sizes and crappy Leadership? If you want artillery, take Hellcannons, Skullcannons and Warp-lightning Cannons, or even Warp-Jezzails. Leave this piece of shit where he belongs.

			Actually, stupidity can seriously help some skaven units, as immune to psychology can mean the difference between them being beaten into the dirt by zombies or getting that one time 3+ to hit.

	*'''Skulltaker'''		*'''Skulltaker'''

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Named Heroes

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	===Named Heroes===		===Named Heroes===
	*'''Morghur, Master of Skulls'''		*'''Morghur, Master of Skulls'''
			Fucking awesome in a big unit of skavenslaves, where you can just let his mutation ability run wild. Other than that, not really worth it, but the look on an opponents face when a 2pt model suddenly becomes a decently Killy monster if priceless

	*'''Slugtongue'''		*'''Slugtongue'''