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1d4chan>ThatOneBruvva: /* Aircraft */

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Aircraft

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	*'''Heldrake:''' A terrifying model that stalks the skies of the battlefield and ensures the sky belongs to you. Its guns are nothing special, but its Heldrake Claws hit on a 2+ against flying models and comes with Devastating Wounds and '''Anti-Fly 2+,''' turning its S7 -1AP 2D into mortal wounds on anything with that [Fly] Keyword. It may be a bit fragile at T9, 12 Wounds with a -1 at a third of its health, but anything that is targeted by this fearsome flyer will be dropped to the ground bloodied and battered.		*'''Heldrake:''' A terrifying model that stalks the skies of the battlefield and ensures the sky belongs to you. Its guns are nothing special, but its Heldrake Claws hit on a 2+ against flying models and comes with Devastating Wounds and '''Anti-Fly 2+,''' turning its S7 -1AP 2D into mortal wounds on anything with that [Fly] Keyword. It may be a bit fragile at T9, 12 Wounds with a -1 at a third of its health, but anything that is targeted by this fearsome flyer will be dropped to the ground bloodied and battered.
	**This unit can select one model it flew over to no longer receive the benefits of cover, which also makes it great utility for your ap-heavy shooters to go ham.		**This unit can select one model it flew over to no longer receive the benefits of cover, which also makes it great utility for your ap-heavy shooters to go ham.
	*'''~~Xiphon Interceptor~~'''~~(legends)~~:
	*'''Storm Eagle Gunship'''~~(legends):~~		*'''Chaos Thunderbird<sup>HH Legends</sup>:'''
	*'''~~Fire Raptor Gunship~~'''~~(legends):~~		*'''Fire Raptor Gunship<sup>HH Legends</sup>:'''
			*'''Storm Eagle Gunship<sup>HH Legends</sup>:'''
			*'''Sokar-Pattern Stormbird<sup>HH Legends</sup>:'''

	===Beast===		===Beast===

1d4chan>ThatOneBruvva: /* Walkers */

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Walkers

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	*'''Helbrute:''' A nice supplement to a force that can also help you generate cabal points on the side, for every time you use a ritual you use around him, he gives you 1 point back. He's the only variant to have a 5++ natively on top of Inferno bolts.		*'''Helbrute:''' A nice supplement to a force that can also help you generate cabal points on the side, for every time you use a ritual you use around him, he gives you 1 point back. He's the only variant to have a 5++ natively on top of Inferno bolts.
	*'''Maulerfiend:''' Not only extremely killy in melee, living up to its name, it also has the ability to heroically intervene for free. Magma cutters don't have enough shots or range for it to matter to any great degree, take the lasher tendrils.		*'''Maulerfiend:''' Not only extremely killy in melee, living up to its name, it also has the ability to heroically intervene for free. Magma cutters don't have enough shots or range for it to matter to any great degree, take the lasher tendrils.
	*'''Deredeo Dreadnought'''~~(legends):~~
	*'''Relic Contemptor Dreadnought'''~~(legends):~~		*'''Deredeo Dreadnought<sup>HH Legends</sup>:''' The Dreadnought to use if you just want to shoot, this dread can re-roll to hit enemies above half-strength. Each of their arm-guns are paired with specific purposes - the Anvilus Autocannons demolish crowds, the Arachnus Heavy Lascannons to demolish tanks, the Hellfire Plasma Cannonade to blast apart TEQs and the Volkite Falconets to burn through high toughness monsters. You can also pick up one of two different missiles, one capable of handling crowds while the other lets you easily break flyers.
	*'''Leviathan Dreadnought'''~~(Legends):~~		*'''Relic Contemptor Dreadnought<sup>HH Legends</sup>:''' The dreadnought to take if you want something that just refuses to die. Comes with all the fun guns you've ever wanted in melee or at range, curiously starting out with twin plasma cannons. Your fists and chainfists come with combi-bolters with the heavy flamer option also adding in options for plasma blasters to easily crack MEQs and the graviton blaster to annoy vehicles. You can also strap a cyclone missile launcher for additional firepower.
			*'''Leviathan Dreadnought<sup>HH Legends</sup>:''' The end of any tanks or monsters you see. The Cyclonic Melta Lance can easily rip through monsters and tanks all the same while the Grav-Flux Bombard gives you more reliable ways of damaging tanks at the cost of effectiveness. The Storm Cannon exists if you're up against any hordes. You can also grab a claw or drill, the difference really only being that the drill has one less attack for [Anti-Vehicle 4+], otherwise they're both almost identical and carry meltas.

	====Dedicated Transports====		====Dedicated Transports====

1d4chan>Veritos Halm at 19:27, 21 June 2023

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	===Battleline===		===Battleline===

	*'''Rubric Marines<sup>CoS 1</sup>:''' While they lost their AP reduction, they keep their 5++ as compensation. They remain a pretty decent shooting force with their basic Inferno Bolters going down to AP-1, but at least keeping its AP, shooting twice at 24" without the need to stand still and the Soulreaper Cannon getting made into effectively an assault cannon with ''Devastating Wounds''. Bringers of Change also lets them re-roll 1s to wound when shooting, which upgrades to re-rolling all wounds if the target is near an objective that you don't control. Stacking an Icon of Flame gives another improvement by making critical wounds improve the AP of the hit, although of course an Icon of Flame won't buff a Soulreaper Cannon (or anything else with DW, like Warpsmite).		*'''Rubric Marines<sup>CoS 1</sup>:''' While they lost their AP reduction, they keep their 5++ as compensation. They remain a pretty decent shooting force with their basic Inferno Bolters going down to AP-1, but at least keeping its AP, shooting twice at 24" without the need to stand still and the Soulreaper Cannon getting made into effectively an assault cannon with ''Devastating Wounds''. Bringers of Change also lets them re-roll 1s to wound when shooting, which upgrades to re-rolling all wounds if the target is near an objective that you don't control. Stacking an Icon of Flame gives another improvement by making critical wounds improve the AP of the hit, although of course an Icon of Flame won't buff a Soulreaper Cannon (or anything else with DW, like Warpsmite).
	**The Aspiring Sorcerer's got their own pistols between the bolt, plasma and warpflame pistols, but they also get Warpsmite as a psychic pistol, a S4 AP-3 shot with ''[Devastating Wounds]'' and ''[Anti-Infantry 4]+'' so they can contribute alongside their rubricae in shootng.		**The Aspiring Sorcerer's got their own pistols between the bolt, plasma and warpflame pistols, but they also get Warpsmite as a psychic pistol, a S4 AP-3 shot with ''[Devastating Wounds]'' and ''[Anti-Infantry 4]+'' so they can contribute alongside their rubricae in shootng.
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	*'''Relic Contemptor Dreadnought'''(legends):		*'''Relic Contemptor Dreadnought'''(legends):
	*'''Leviathan Dreadnought'''(Legends):		*'''Leviathan Dreadnought'''(Legends):


	====Dedicated Transports====		====Dedicated Transports====

	*'''Chaos Rhino:''' Gloriously increased the carrying capacity from 10 transport capacity to 12 so now you can throw in a sorcerer or two into the transport as well. Can repair itself to regain 1 wound and surprisingly lacks Firing Deck 2. Yours has Inferno Combi-Bolters so it has an extra pip of AP.		*'''Chaos Rhino:''' Gloriously increased the carrying capacity from 10 transport capacity to 12 so now you can throw in a sorcerer or two into the transport as well. Can repair itself to regain 1 wound and surprisingly lacks Firing Deck 2. Yours has Inferno Combi-Bolters so it has an extra pip of AP.
	**It's worth noting that your disc sorcerers count as infantry as well as being mounted so you can still shove them into one of these if you want.		**It's worth noting that your disc sorcerers count as infantry as well as being mounted so you can still shove them into one of these if you want.

1d4chan>Veritos Halm: /* Vehicles */

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Vehicles

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	*'''Cerberus'''(legends):		*'''Cerberus'''(legends):
	*'''Spartan'''(legends):		*'''Spartan'''(legends):



	====Walkers====		====Walkers====

1d4chan>Veritos Halm: /* Unit Analysis */

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Unit Analysis

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	*'''Chaos Predator Destructor:''' Starts with a predator autocannon and can be given Lascannons or Inferno Heavy Bolters (AP-2!). The Destructor ability combined with the extra AP on the heavy bolters makes this unit fairly capable of mincing marine squads or most Infantry units that will unfortunately have to face the guns of this tank.		*'''Chaos Predator Destructor:''' Starts with a predator autocannon and can be given Lascannons or Inferno Heavy Bolters (AP-2!). The Destructor ability combined with the extra AP on the heavy bolters makes this unit fairly capable of mincing marine squads or most Infantry units that will unfortunately have to face the guns of this tank.
	*'''Chaos Vindicator:'''		*'''Chaos Vindicator:'''
			*'''Kratos'''(Legends):
			*'''Land Raider Proteus'''(legends):
			*'''Land Raider Achilles'''(legends):
			*'''Sicaran Battle Tank'''(legends):
			*'''Sicaran Venator'''(legends):
			*'''Sicaran Punisher'''(legends):
			*'''Rapier Carrier'''(legends):
			*'''Whirlwind Scorpius'''(legends):
			*'''Typhon'''(legends):
			*'''Cerberus'''(legends):
			*'''Spartan'''(legends):



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	*'''Helbrute:''' A nice supplement to a force that can also help you generate cabal points on the side, for every time you use a ritual you use around him, he gives you 1 point back. He's the only variant to have a 5++ natively on top of Inferno bolts.		*'''Helbrute:''' A nice supplement to a force that can also help you generate cabal points on the side, for every time you use a ritual you use around him, he gives you 1 point back. He's the only variant to have a 5++ natively on top of Inferno bolts.
	*'''Maulerfiend:''' Not only extremely killy in melee, living up to its name, it also has the ability to heroically intervene for free. Magma cutters don't have enough shots or range for it to matter to any great degree, take the lasher tendrils.		*'''Maulerfiend:''' Not only extremely killy in melee, living up to its name, it also has the ability to heroically intervene for free. Magma cutters don't have enough shots or range for it to matter to any great degree, take the lasher tendrils.
			*'''Deredeo Dreadnought'''(legends):
			*'''Relic Contemptor Dreadnought'''(legends):
			*'''Leviathan Dreadnought'''(Legends):


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	*'''Chaos Rhino:''' Gloriously increased the carrying capacity from 10 transport capacity to 12 so now you can throw in a sorcerer or two into the transport as well. Can repair itself to regain 1 wound and surprisingly lacks Firing Deck 2. Yours has Inferno Combi-Bolters so it has an extra pip of AP.		*'''Chaos Rhino:''' Gloriously increased the carrying capacity from 10 transport capacity to 12 so now you can throw in a sorcerer or two into the transport as well. Can repair itself to regain 1 wound and surprisingly lacks Firing Deck 2. Yours has Inferno Combi-Bolters so it has an extra pip of AP.
	**It's worth noting that your disc sorcerers count as infantry as well as being mounted so you can still shove them into one of these if you want.		**It's worth noting that your disc sorcerers count as infantry as well as being mounted so you can still shove them into one of these if you want.
			*'''Terrax-Pattern Termite'''(legends):

	====Aircraft====		====Aircraft====
	*'''Heldrake:''' A terrifying model that stalks the skies of the battlefield and ensures the sky belongs to you. Its guns are nothing special, but its Heldrake Claws hit on a 2+ against flying models and comes with Devastating Wounds and '''Anti-Fly 2+,''' turning its S7 -1AP 2D into mortal wounds on anything with that [Fly] Keyword. It may be a bit fragile at T9, 12 Wounds with a -1 at a third of its health, but anything that is targeted by this fearsome flyer will be dropped to the ground bloodied and battered.		*'''Heldrake:''' A terrifying model that stalks the skies of the battlefield and ensures the sky belongs to you. Its guns are nothing special, but its Heldrake Claws hit on a 2+ against flying models and comes with Devastating Wounds and '''Anti-Fly 2+,''' turning its S7 -1AP 2D into mortal wounds on anything with that [Fly] Keyword. It may be a bit fragile at T9, 12 Wounds with a -1 at a third of its health, but anything that is targeted by this fearsome flyer will be dropped to the ground bloodied and battered.
	**This unit can select one model it flew over to no longer receive the benefits of cover, which also makes it great utility for your ap-heavy shooters to go ham.		**This unit can select one model it flew over to no longer receive the benefits of cover, which also makes it great utility for your ap-heavy shooters to go ham.
			*'''Xiphon Interceptor'''(legends):
			*'''Storm Eagle Gunship'''(legends):
			*'''Fire Raptor Gunship'''(legends):

	===Beast===		===Beast===
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	***Placing Ahriman and a Lord of Forbidden Lore Warlord dangerously close to a MVB lets them doubletap Doombolt from 36" away; a nearby Daemon Prince can also make their units -1 to hit, and if your Warlord also just happens to be a regular Sorcerer, [[JUST AS PLANNED\|''his unit cant be shot from outside 18"'']] due to his Illusions ability.		***Placing Ahriman and a Lord of Forbidden Lore Warlord dangerously close to a MVB lets them doubletap Doombolt from 36" away; a nearby Daemon Prince can also make their units -1 to hit, and if your Warlord also just happens to be a regular Sorcerer, [[JUST AS PLANNED\|''his unit cant be shot from outside 18"'']] due to his Illusions ability.

			===Titanic===
			*'''Chaos Thunderhawk'''(legends):
			*'''Fellblade'''(legends):
			*'''Falchion'''(legends):
			*'''Mastodon'''(legends):
			*'''Sokar-Pattern Stormbird'''(legends):

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1d4chan>MiaoKobayashisDragonMaid: /* Wargear */

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Wargear

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	==Wargear==		==Wargear==
			'''Note''': Most of the armies that used to have FNPs against Psychic MWs now have FNPs or invulns against '''[Psychic]''' attacks, which are your spells and force weapons.
			*What they don't work against though are ''Psychic Abilities'', which are listed on the datasheet.
	===Ranged Weapons===		===Ranged Weapons===
	*'''Inferno Boltgun:''' 2 shots at 24" with S4 AP-1 1 damage.		*'''Inferno Boltgun:''' 2 shots at 24" with S4 AP-1 1 damage.

1d4chan>MiaoKobayashisDragonMaid: /* Faction Rules */

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Faction Rules

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	**''Echoes from the Warp (6 Cabal Points):'' Start of any phase. One stratagem targeting the psyker's unit will cost 0 CP and can be used even if already used. Expect to use this a lot, since it allows absolute bullshit like firing Overwatch twice with the same unit.		**''Echoes from the Warp (6 Cabal Points):'' Start of any phase. One stratagem targeting the psyker's unit will cost 0 CP and can be used even if already used. Expect to use this a lot, since it allows absolute bullshit like firing Overwatch twice with the same unit.
	**''Doombolt (7 Cabal Points):'' Start of your shooting. Target one visible enemy unit within 18" of the psyker and roll a d6. On a 1, the enemy takes d3 MW, on a 2-5 they suffer d3+3 MW, and on a 6 they take d3+6 MW, so 1-9 MW, average 5.		**''Doombolt (7 Cabal Points):'' Start of your shooting. Target one visible enemy unit within 18" of the psyker and roll a d6. On a 1, the enemy takes d3 MW, on a 2-5 they suffer d3+3 MW, and on a 6 they take d3+6 MW, so 1-9 MW, average 5.
			***'''Does not count as a [Psychic]''' ability or attack, and so is only thwarted by generic or Mortal Wound FNP abilities, such as those in a Custodes detachment, but not by the Librarian Psychic FNPs.
	***If you bring Ahriman and a psyker with Lord of Forbidden Lore you can throw this twice in a single turn for the price of one. Do with this info what you will.		***If you bring Ahriman and a psyker with Lord of Forbidden Lore you can throw this twice in a single turn for the price of one. Do with this info what you will.
	**''Twist of Fate (9 Cabal Points):'' Start of any phase. One visible enemy unit within 18" of the psyker cannot make any armour saves. They better hope they have a good invuln to rely on...		**''Twist of Fate (9 Cabal Points):'' Start of any phase. One visible enemy unit within 18" of the psyker cannot make any armour saves. They better hope they have a good invuln to rely on...

71.233.195.51: /* Strategy */

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Strategy

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	On average, that means 38.89 hits. Assuming a T8 Sv2+ target in cover, we want to fish for crits, so 11/36 critical wounds and 5/36 chance of needing to overcome that save. That's 11.89 mortals plus 5.4 damage after failed saves. And the combo has yet more psychic dakka to bring to bear.		On average, that means 38.89 hits. Assuming a T8 Sv2+ target in cover, we want to fish for crits, so 11/36 critical wounds and 5/36 chance of needing to overcome that save. That's 11.89 mortals plus 5.4 damage after failed saves. And the combo has yet more psychic dakka to bring to bear.

	You can bring a termi sorcerer leader if you want - Lethal Hits is usually a nerf to Devastating Wounds, but you have the accuracy to fish around it when you don't want it and fish for it when you do (i.e. ~~T8+ Sv4+, if~~ you ~~can find a~~ target ~~like that~~).		You can bring a termi sorcerer leader if you want - Lethal Hits is usually a nerf to Devastating Wounds, but you have the accuracy to fish around it when you don't want it and fish for it when you do (e.g. when you've used Twist of Fate to turn armor saves off and your target has no invuln, so Lethal Hits is much better than Devastating Wounds).

	==Wargear==		==Wargear==

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Cult of Magic

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 *'''Lord of Forbidden Lore:''' {{W40kKeyword|Psyker}} only. The bearer can be selected to use a Ritual even if another Psyker from your army has already been selected to use that Ritual this phase.
 *'''Umbralefic Crystal:''' Once per battle, in your Command phase, you can remove the bearer’s unit from the battlefield. This can be set up during your next Reinforcements step of your next Movement phase, going anywhere on the battlefield that is more than 9" horizontally away from all enemies
 ==Wargear==