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	This page is a guide to help people understand the weapon matchup between various units.		This page is a guide to help people understand the weapon matchup between various units.

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AP Chart

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	*'''AP -1''': The most basic AP possible. Will dent the enemy's save enough to slightly increase your killing potential but still won't guarantee anything against MEQ or higher, and a bunch of special rules blocks it specifically to boot.		*'''AP -1''': The most basic AP possible. Will dent the enemy's save enough to slightly increase your killing potential but still won't guarantee anything against MEQ or higher, and a bunch of special rules blocks it specifically to boot.
	*'''AP -2''': Now we're going somewhere. AP-2 will make a dent on MEQs, TEQs, and Vehicles, giving you a good chance of wounding them. Will probably go through the save of most GEQs and definitively will blow up anything weaker than that.		*'''AP -2''': Now we're going somewhere. AP-2 will make a dent on MEQs, TEQs, and Vehicles, giving you a good chance of wounding them. Will probably go through the save of most GEQs and definitively will blow up anything weaker than that.
	*'''AP -3''': Great armour penetration. This level of penetration, most frequent in plasma~~, lascannon, or power fists~~, is usually enough to deal with most things since even 3+ saves will barely survive most attacks with this AP. This is ''generally'' the starting point for invulnerable saves to start blunting your penetration, so this is enough to kill most units.		*'''AP -3''': Great armour penetration. This level of penetration, most frequent in plasma and lascannons, is usually enough to deal with most things since even 3+ saves will barely survive most attacks with this AP. This is ''generally'' the starting point for invulnerable saves to start blunting your penetration, so this is enough to kill most units.
	*'''AP -4''': Melta tier. This will go through 3+ saves with no problem. Most weapons with this kind of AP have a lot of damage output but will have very few attacks to compensate.		*'''AP -4''': Melta tier. This will go through 3+ saves with no problem. Most weapons with this kind of AP have a lot of damage output but will have very few attacks to compensate.
	*'''AP -5''': "Fuck my shit up" levels of damage. Extraordinarily rare levels of armour penetration, nothing without invulnerable saves or a ''very'' good armor save (e.g. 2+ in light/heavy cover) can stop this level of raw power. Expect it on rare, heavily buffed, and/or titan-grade weapons.		*'''AP -5''': "Fuck my shit up" levels of damage. Extraordinarily rare levels of armour penetration, nothing without invulnerable saves or a ''very'' good armor save (e.g. 2+ in light/heavy cover) can stop this level of raw power. Expect it on rare, heavily buffed, and/or titan-grade weapons.

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Melee Weapon Archetypes

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	===Melee Weapon Archetypes===		===Melee Weapon Archetypes===
	*'''Generic CCW:''' When you have no melee weapon, but still ~~you~~ need to go to melee ~~- this also includes things like Knight stomps and tanks trying to run people over~~. No AP and no special rules, you better have MEQ strength or else you won't do anything anyway.		*'''Generic CCW:''' When you have no melee weapon, but you still need to go to melee. No AP and no special rules, you better have MEQ strength or else you won't do anything anyway.

	*'''Chainsword:''' The bare bones, but it gives you an extra attack. Good to deal with hordes but will falter against heavier objectives. Similar to chain axes, combat knives...		*'''Chainsword:''' The bare bones, but it gives you an extra attack. Good to deal with hordes but will falter against heavier objectives. Similar to chain axes, combat knives...

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Melee Weapon Archetypes

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	*'''Hammers and fists:''' Weapons that have a lot of stopping power at S8 Ap-2 D2, but some are usually so heavy that they will decrease your WS (-1 to hit rolls).		*'''Hammers and fists:''' Weapons that have a lot of stopping power at S8 Ap-2 D2, but some are usually so heavy that they will decrease your WS (-1 to hit rolls).

	*'''Shields?:''' ~~<s>Technically a weapon (a defensive weapon, but a weapon nonetheless), it offers no offensive capabilities, but it usually increases the unit's save and adds invulnerable saves. Great when you need~~ to ~~throw your unit against things that can hit back hard~~.~~</s>~~		*'''Shields:''' now add +1 more wounds to model.

	===Wounding Chart===		===Wounding Chart===

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Damage Chart

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	*'''Plain damage:''' The attack does a fixed amount of damage. The most common and most reliable kind of damage.		*'''Plain damage:''' The attack does a fixed amount of damage. The most common and most reliable kind of damage.
	**''Damage 1.'' The most frequent kind of damage by far. Will kill light units well enough but it will need a lot of attacks to deal with multiple wound models.		*# The most frequent kind of damage by far. Will kill light units well enough but it will need a lot of attacks to deal with multiple wound models.
	**''Damage 2.'' In general the most reasonable damage output for most occasions, able to kill MEQ models in one shot and it will hurt bikes, characters and light vehicles, but it will still take a long time to put down heavier vehicles. Still, it's possible to spam weapons with damage 2 ~~easy~~ enough through ~~plasmas~~ or heavy melee weapons.		*# In general the most reasonable damage output for most occasions, able to kill MEQ models in one shot and it will hurt bikes, characters and light vehicles, but it will still take a long time to put down heavier vehicles. Still, it's possible to spam weapons with damage 2 easily enough through plasma or heavy melee weapons. Always a better choice than d3 damage.
	**''Damage 3.'' It will go through TEQs like butter, and will take down characters and light vehicles in a couple of hits. Even heavier vehicles will struggle to stop many of this. Rare outside of heavy or relic weapons. It will start to show diminishing returns on lighter units, since most of that damage output will be lost.		*# It will go through TEQs like butter, and will take down characters and light vehicles in a couple of hits. Even heavier vehicles will struggle to stop many of this. Rare outside of heavy or relic weapons. It will start to show diminishing returns on lighter units, since most of that damage output will be lost.
	**''Damage 4 and above.'' Designed to put down vehicles and ~~heavy~~ units fast. Against anything else it will be overkill.		*# (or more) Designed to put down vehicles, monsters, swarms, and other high-wound units fast. Against anything else it will be overkill.
	*'''Dice based:''' The attack does a variable amount of damage. Their damage output will depend on the results of the dice.		*'''Dice based:''' The attack does a variable amount of damage. Their damage output will depend on the results of the dice.
	**''D3.'' The damage output will be between 1 and 3 depending on the result. ~~Good~~ to ~~deal with stuff like MEQs and TEQs~~, but ~~not reliable enough~~ against ~~vehicles that will shrug off the lower results~~.		**''D3.'' The damage output will be between 1 and 3 depending on the result. Equivalent to D2 against anything W3+, but strictly worse against W2, so all else being equal, take D2 instead if you can.
	**''D6.'' The damage output will be between 1 and 6 depending on the result. Present in weapons like meltas, which can be cheap ways to deal with armour, but there's always the risk you get only 1 or 2 damage from the shot.		**''D6.'' The damage output will be between 1 and 6 depending on the result. Present in weapons like meltas, which can be cheap ways to deal with armour, but there's always the risk you get only 1 or 2 damage from the shot. Average of 3.5 against W6+, but against W4 or less D3 would be better via higher or equal average damage and lower variance.
	*'''Dice based with minimum damage:''' Some weapons will allow you to thow a die for the damage output, but with a minimum damage established. For example the Neutron Laser does D6 damage, but it will always do at least 3 wounds. This means results from 1 to 3 will do 3 damage anyway, and higher results will do their appropriate damage.		*'''Dice based with minimum damage:''' Some weapons will allow you to thow a die for the damage output, but with a minimum damage established. For example the Neutron Laser does D6 damage, but it will always do at least 3 wounds. This means results from 1 to 3 will do 3 damage anyway, and higher results will do their appropriate damage.
	*'''Dice based + plain damage:''' A plain damage plus the result of a die. Remember that d3+3 is better than d6 (avg. 5 vs 3.5).		*'''Dice based + plain damage:''' A plain damage plus the result of a die. Remember that d3+3 is better than d6 (avg. 5 vs 3.5).

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Unit Archetypes

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	*'''Superheavies:''' Massive vehicles of war, incredibly tough and resilient, that can wreak havoc on anything they attack, but require a big point investment. They will usually be the vehicle that spearheads their army so that they will attract a lot of the enemy's firepower.		*'''Superheavies:''' Massive vehicles of war, incredibly tough and resilient, that can wreak havoc on anything they attack, but require a big point investment. They will usually be the vehicle that spearheads their army so that they will attract a lot of the enemy's firepower.
	*'''Titanic:''' The ultimate step in war vehicles. With more weapon platforms than proper vehicles, these things are ridiculously tough and powerful. Takes the concept of the superheavies to its ultimate conclusion, but there are more moderate versions of titanic units so as not to spend 2000p on a single model.		*'''Titanic:''' The ultimate step in war vehicles. With more weapon platforms than proper vehicles, these things are ridiculously tough and powerful. Takes the concept of the superheavies to its ultimate conclusion, but there are more moderate versions of titanic units so as not to spend 2000p on a single model.
	*'''Aircraft:''' Flyers with supersonic speed. It's important to take into account that all units with the {{WH40Kkeyword\|FLY}} keyword ~~aren't~~ aircraft, just like {{WH40Kkeyword\|Bike}} units aren't {{WH40Kkeyword\|Vehicles}}. Usually, they'll need to move every turn following certain move restrictions, but in return, regular units have a -1 to their BS against them.		*'''Aircraft:''' Flyers with supersonic speed. It's important to take into account that not all units with the {{WH40Kkeyword\|FLY}} keyword are aircraft, just like {{WH40Kkeyword\|Bike}} units aren't {{WH40Kkeyword\|Vehicles}}. Usually, they'll need to move every turn following certain move restrictions, but in return, regular units have a -1 to their BS against them.

	===Shooting Weapon Archetypes===		===Shooting Weapon Archetypes===

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	**''D3.'' The damage output will be between 1 and 3 depending on the result. Good to deal with stuff like MEQs and TEQs, but not reliable enough against vehicles that will shrug off the lower results.		**''D3.'' The damage output will be between 1 and 3 depending on the result. Good to deal with stuff like MEQs and TEQs, but not reliable enough against vehicles that will shrug off the lower results.
	**''D6.'' The damage output will be between 1 and 6 depending on the result. Present in weapons like meltas, which can be cheap ways to deal with armour, but there's always the risk you get only 1 or 2 damage from the shot.		**''D6.'' The damage output will be between 1 and 6 depending on the result. Present in weapons like meltas, which can be cheap ways to deal with armour, but there's always the risk you get only 1 or 2 damage from the shot.
	*'''Dice based with minimum damage:''' Some weapons will allow you to thow a ~~dice~~ for the damage output, but with a minimum damage established. For example the Neutron Laser does D6 damage, but it will always do at least 3 wounds. This means results from 1 to 3 will do 3 damage anyway, and higher results will do their appropriate damage.		*'''Dice based with minimum damage:''' Some weapons will allow you to thow a die for the damage output, but with a minimum damage established. For example the Neutron Laser does D6 damage, but it will always do at least 3 wounds. This means results from 1 to 3 will do 3 damage anyway, and higher results will do their appropriate damage.
	*'''Dice based + plain damage:''' A plain damage plus the result of a ~~dice~~. Remember that d3+3 is better than d6 (avg. 5 vs 3.5).		*'''Dice based + plain damage:''' A plain damage plus the result of a die. Remember that d3+3 is better than d6 (avg. 5 vs 3.5).
	*'''Mortal Wounds:''' Mortal wounds are special wounds which ignore saving throws altogether. Unless you have some special ability (like FNP) that allows you to stop mortal wounds, it will damage the unit.		*'''Mortal Wounds:''' Mortal wounds are special wounds which ignore saving throws altogether. Unless you have some special ability (like FNP) that allows you to stop mortal wounds, it will damage the unit.
	*'''Other:'''		*'''Other:'''

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Wounding Chart

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	The rules of wounding will depend on the attacker's strength and the defender's toughness:		The rules of wounding will depend on the attacker's strength and the defender's toughness:

	*'''Attacker's strength is half or less of the defender's toughness:''' Like trying to take down a tank with a wooden stick. You will rarely wound with this, as you need a 6+ to succeed. Only really feasible with massive spam.		*'''Attacker's strength is half or less of the defender's toughness:''' Like trying to take down a tank with a wooden stick. You will rarely (about 17% of the time) wound with this, as you need a 6+ to succeed. Only really feasible with massive spam.
	*'''Attacker's strength is below the defender's toughness:''' A little bit better, but the chances are still against the attacker. You need a 5+ to succeed, which can still be done, just don't rely on it much.		*'''Attacker's strength is below the defender's toughness:''' A little bit better, but the chances are still against the attacker (only about 33%). You need a 5+ to succeed, which can still be done, just don't rely on it much.
	*'''Attacker's strength is equal to the defender's toughness:''' A perfectly balanced match, the attacker needs a 4+ chance to wound, which is ~~exacly~~ 50%. The dice gods will decide your fate here. Frequent between marine fights, as the S4 bolters match T4 marines.		*'''Attacker's strength is equal to the defender's toughness:''' A perfectly balanced match, the attacker needs a 4+ chance to wound, which is exactly 50%. The dice gods will decide your fate here. Frequent between marine fights, as the S4 bolters match T4 marines.
	*'''Attacker's strength is above the defender's toughness:''' The attacker has the advantage here. The attacker needs a 3+ chance to wound, meaning you will reliably wound here.		*'''Attacker's strength is above the defender's toughness:''' The attacker has the advantage here. The attacker needs a 3+ chance to wound, meaning you will reliably (about 67%) wound here.
	*'''Attacker's strength is twice or more than the defender's toughness:''' When the difference in power is overwhelming, the attacker needs a 2+ chance to wound. Pretty much guaranteed to wound, but you always know there's the chance for 1s...		*'''Attacker's strength is twice or more than the defender's toughness:''' When the difference in power is overwhelming, the attacker needs a 2+ chance to wound. Pretty much guaranteed (about 83%) to wound, but you always know there's the chance for 1s...

	This doesn't take into account wound modifiers, like Special Issue Ammunition, Transhuman Physiology or other stuff that can add or substract to the wound roll.		This doesn't take into account wound modifiers, like Special Issue Ammunition, Transhuman Physiology, or other stuff that can add to or substract from the wound roll.

	===AP Chart===		===AP Chart===