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2A02:1810:4E2C:A900:C5B1:DFB5:E2DA:268: /* Come the Apocalypse */

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Come the Apocalypse

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	*'''Imperial Knights/Renegade Knights''' Assorted Nidzillas and Baneblades should do the job. If you play an infected Knight House, best pick a Crusader or dual-wielding Renegade.		*'''Imperial Knights/Renegade Knights''' Assorted Nidzillas and Baneblades should do the job. If you play an infected Knight House, best pick a Crusader or dual-wielding Renegade.
	*'''Eldar'''		*'''Eldar'''
	**'''Eldar Harlequins and Corsairs''' More speed, more deadly close combat potential.		**'''Eldar Harlequins and Corsairs''' More speed, more deadly close combat potential.
	*'''Dark Eldar''' Good if you want more fast, squishy hit and run units. They ~~dont~~ add much new, but the playstyles meld nicely.		*'''Dark Eldar''' Good if you want more fast, squishy hit and run units. They don't add much new, but the playstyles meld nicely.
	*'''Tau''' If you're running for mostly Melee, a gunline of Pulse rifles could be a great boon.		*'''Tau''' If you're running for mostly Melee, a gunline of Pulse rifles could be a great boon.
	*'''Necrons''' Again, a Necron Gunline could be a helpful thing. Using cult ambush could fuck you up if you roll a 1, but you can also potentially get your forces in a neat close range to your foe, whilst the 'Crons melt tanks. If you aren't looking for anti-tank duty, however, they don't really have much to offer that you or your AoC buddies couldn't already do.		*'''Necrons''' Again, a Necron Gunline could be a helpful thing. Using cult ambush could fuck you up if you roll a 1, but you can also potentially get your forces in a neat close range to your foe, whilst the 'Crons melt tanks. If you aren't looking for anti-tank duty, however, they don't really have much to offer that you or your AoC buddies couldn't already do.
	*'''Orks''' Adds some much needed WAAAAGGHH!!!(Odd seeing as there are Hybrid Ork Freebootaz, maybe they don't generate the right kind of waaagh field)		*'''Orks''' Adds some much needed WAAAAGGHH!!!(Odd seeing as there are Hybrid Ork Freebootaz, maybe they don't generate the right kind of waaagh field)

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Special Rules

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	*'''Return to Shadows:''' Your infantry units gain the ability to be removed from the table and be placed into Ongoing Reserves, if not within 6" of an enemy model. This, coupled with Cult Ambush means you can utterly mess with your army by redeploying everything when he thinks he's got you outmanoeuvred. Your opponent will be raging when he thinks he's got you cornered when you just NOPE out of a bind.		*'''Return to Shadows:''' Your infantry units gain the ability to be removed from the table and be placed into Ongoing Reserves, if not within 6" of an enemy model. This, coupled with Cult Ambush means you can utterly mess with your army by redeploying everything when he thinks he's got you outmanoeuvred. Your opponent will be raging when he thinks he's got you cornered when you just NOPE out of a bind.
	**However, do note that you will enter Ongoing Reserves in your movement phase to come back on the following turn, so you will forgo a shooting and assault phase.		**However, do note that you will enter Ongoing Reserves in your movement phase to come back on the following turn, so you will forgo a shooting and assault phase.
	**ALSO NOTE: As per the Return to Shadows rule, you cannot do so in the same turn that you arrive from reserve and using a Cult Ambush arrival is still arriving from reserves. So you ~~dont~~ get to appear and disappear in the same turn.		**ALSO NOTE: As per the Return to Shadows rule, you cannot do so in the same turn that you arrive from reserve and using a Cult Ambush arrival is still arriving from reserves. So you don't get to appear and disappear in the same turn.
	*'''Unquestioning Loyalty:''' Your dudes worship their leaders in ways that regular humans never seem to understand. Your HQ units automatically pass Look Out Sir rolls and can even perform them in challenges, meaning suddenly those big giant squads become meat shields while your wicked cookie monster goes to town. Effectively saving you from ''Instant Death'' Wounds so long as you have minions to throw away. Hilarious Side Note: Because you can use this ability in challenges, this becomes a very entertaining way of making CSM players furious as their HQs are forced into fights where their wound get shifted endlessly into 5 point neophytes until an Iconward Rends them to death.		*'''Unquestioning Loyalty:''' Your dudes worship their leaders in ways that regular humans never seem to understand. Your HQ units automatically pass Look Out Sir rolls and can even perform them in challenges, meaning suddenly those big giant squads become meat shields while your wicked cookie monster goes to town. Effectively saving you from ''Instant Death'' Wounds so long as you have minions to throw away. Hilarious Side Note: Because you can use this ability in challenges, this becomes a very entertaining way of making CSM players furious as their HQs are forced into fights where their wound get shifted endlessly into 5 point neophytes until an Iconward Rends them to death.

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Broodmind Psychic Discipline

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	#'''Might From Beyond:''' Blessing, a target unit within 24" gains S+1 and ''Rage'' - this is very useful, especially on large squads - a +1 on Strength and Attacks is brilliant.		#'''Might From Beyond:''' Blessing, a target unit within 24" gains S+1 and ''Rage'' - this is very useful, especially on large squads - a +1 on Strength and Attacks is brilliant.
	#'''Mental Onslaught:''' Focused Witchfire, compare Ld values and add D6. On a draw, the target suffers -3 Initiative for a turn. If the psyker wins, the target takes the difference in wounds.		#'''Mental Onslaught:''' Focused Witchfire, compare Ld values and add D6. On a draw, the target suffers -3 Initiative for a turn. If the psyker wins, the target takes the difference in wounds.
	#'''Mind Control:''' Focused Witchfire. Choose a single non-vehicle model and make a shooting attack as if it were yours. See that Stormsurge over there with all of those one-shot missiles? The one with all of those deadly weapons? Yeah, it's yours for a turn. Use it on your buddy's Wraithguard. Watch them kill their Spiritseer. Sip martini. [~~https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Just_As_Planned~~ Just as planned]		#'''Mind Control:''' Focused Witchfire. Choose a single non-vehicle model and make a shooting attack as if it were yours. See that Stormsurge over there with all of those one-shot missiles? The one with all of those deadly weapons? Yeah, it's yours for a turn. Use it on your buddy's Wraithguard. Watch them kill their Spiritseer. Sip martini. [[Just as planned]]
	#'''Telepathic Summons:''' Conjuration, WC 2/3. Choose 2 or 3, create a single unit . If you expend 2WC = 5 Acolyte or 5 Metamorphs or 10 Neophytes. 3WC and it's 10 Acolyte or 10 Metamorphs or 20 Neophytes or 4 Aberrants or 8 Genestealers. The summoned unit can be equipped with ANY UPGRADES listed on their data sheet as per the summoning rules.		#'''Telepathic Summons:''' Conjuration, WC 2/3. Choose 2 or 3, create a single unit . If you expend 2WC = 5 Acolyte or 5 Metamorphs or 10 Neophytes. 3WC and it's 10 Acolyte or 10 Metamorphs or 20 Neophytes or 4 Aberrants or 8 Genestealers. The summoned unit can be equipped with ANY UPGRADES listed on their data sheet as per the summoning rules.
	#*Telepathic summons is by far the best power in this list for general games. Being able to summon 20 Neophyte Hybrids, kitted out exactly as they need to be with a 66% chance of having them show up almost exactly where you want them to be is a HUGE deal. The other summoning options are good, however being more assault oriented they are going to require a 6 on the Ambush table or a turn of waiting to do anything. They can immediately be useful as a unit your opponent HAS to charge (I.E Distraction Carnifex) but for the most part summon hybrids. Need to stop some transports? Pop up in rear armor with two seismic cannons and two grenade launchers and blast that transport to pieces. Melee Deathstar running towards an important unit? Lay down a wall of 20 bodies to keep them busy for a turn. Pathfinders lighting up your dudes and letting those crisis suits put the hurt on you? Drop right behind them and light them up with two flame throwers, two seismic cannons and 16 rapid fire autoguns. Remember, the upgrades are free so kit them out to do whatever you need them to! You've planned this uprising for generations, it only makes sense that your guys are in the perfect place with the perfect gear!		#*Telepathic summons is by far the best power in this list for general games. Being able to summon 20 Neophyte Hybrids, kitted out exactly as they need to be with a 66% chance of having them show up almost exactly where you want them to be is a HUGE deal. The other summoning options are good, however being more assault oriented they are going to require a 6 on the Ambush table or a turn of waiting to do anything. They can immediately be useful as a unit your opponent HAS to charge (I.E Distraction Carnifex) but for the most part summon hybrids. Need to stop some transports? Pop up in rear armor with two seismic cannons and two grenade launchers and blast that transport to pieces. Melee Deathstar running towards an important unit? Lay down a wall of 20 bodies to keep them busy for a turn. Pathfinders lighting up your dudes and letting those crisis suits put the hurt on you? Drop right behind them and light them up with two flame throwers, two seismic cannons and 16 rapid fire autoguns. Remember, the upgrades are free so kit them out to do whatever you need them to! You've planned this uprising for generations, it only makes sense that your guys are in the perfect place with the perfect gear!

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Warlord Traits

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	# '''Shadow Stalker''': Your Warlord gains the ''Stealth'' special rule, which helps to boost any unit he is part of. Since half of our HQs are melee based and will more often than not be able to find cover on their own, every boost helps.		# '''Shadow Stalker''': Your Warlord gains the ''Stealth'' special rule, which helps to boost any unit he is part of. Since half of our HQs are melee based and will more often than not be able to find cover on their own, every boost helps.
	# '''Focus of Admiration''': Friendly units of the Genestealer Cult faction have ''Counter-Attack'' whilst they are within 12" of your Warlord. One of the best for sure unless your HQ is a magus, who'll probably never be close enough to melee combat for his rule to apply. For everyone else, though, a [[~~Bullshit~~\|rending or strength 6-8 counter-attack will make even assault terminators buckle under the weight of hits coming their way]], and should their dear Patriarch come close enough, it gives your little guardsmen clones a little more power to keep those obnoxious boyz, witches (yes, Dark Eldar players still field witches), ogryns, striking scorpions or other anti-tarpit units from removing your psuedo-guard tarpits.		# '''Focus of Admiration''': Friendly units of the Genestealer Cult faction have ''Counter-Attack'' whilst they are within 12" of your Warlord. One of the best for sure unless your HQ is a magus, who'll probably never be close enough to melee combat for his rule to apply. For everyone else, though, a [[Rip and tear\|rending or strength 6-8 counter-attack will make even assault terminators buckle under the weight of hits coming their way]], and should their dear Patriarch come close enough, it gives your little guardsmen clones a little more power to keep those obnoxious boyz, witches (yes, Dark Eldar players still field witches), ogryns, striking scorpions or other anti-tarpit units from removing your psuedo-guard tarpits.
	# '''Wall Creeper''': Your Warlord gains the ''Move through cover'' special rule. In addition, your Warlord and his unit never suffer the penalty to Initiative for charging through difficult terrain. Pretty straightforward, but helps a lot, especially when dealing with stealthed or entrenched units, and gives your warlord more options for where he can practically pop up to wreak havoc. If you're running a Patriarch with Genestealers, this is the one you want in lieu of Ambush Leader.		# '''Wall Creeper''': Your Warlord gains the ''Move through cover'' special rule. In addition, your Warlord and his unit never suffer the penalty to Initiative for charging through difficult terrain. Pretty straightforward, but helps a lot, especially when dealing with stealthed or entrenched units, and gives your warlord more options for where he can practically pop up to wreak havoc. If you're running a Patriarch with Genestealers, this is the one you want in lieu of Ambush Leader.
	# '''Born Survivor''': Your Warlord gains the ''It Will Not Die'' special rule. Anything without instant death is going to shit their pants if they come across your warlord now (not like they weren't doing that already). It helps make up for your warlords' low armor saves, for sure.		# '''Born Survivor''': Your Warlord gains the ''It Will Not Die'' special rule. Anything without instant death is going to shit their pants if they come across your warlord now (not like they weren't doing that already). It helps make up for your warlords' low armor saves, for sure.

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	===HQ===		===HQ===
	*'''Patriarch:''' Just under 100 points for an ML1 Super-Genestealer with access to Biomancy, Telepathy, and Broodmind; he also makes cult units within 12" Fearless. But, mind games aren’t the Patriarch’s only hobby. He also enjoys ripping out 4 S6 attacks with Rending, Shred, '''and''' AP3, and can buy familiars to add even more S4 attacks to the pile. [[Kharn\|A pretty fun guy]], for a ‘nid. Ultimately, with the Patriarch's combination of psychic powers and beastly stats, with invisibility on he can go toe to toe with most characters, specially since he ''will'' beat them to the punch unless they are a daemon princes or Jain Zar. He also grants a 12" bubble of ''Fearless'' to make sure your fragile units hold the line.		*'''Patriarch:''' Just under 100 points for an ML1 Super-Genestealer with access to Biomancy, Telepathy, and Broodmind; he also makes cult units within 12" Fearless. But, mind games aren’t the Patriarch’s only hobby. He also enjoys ripping out 4 S6 attacks with Rending, Shred, '''and''' AP3, and can buy familiars to add even more S4 attacks to the pile. [[Kharn\|A pretty fun guy]], for a ‘nid. Ultimately, with the Patriarch's combination of psychic powers and beastly stats, with invisibility on he can go toe to toe with most characters, specially since he ''will'' beat them to the punch unless they are a daemon princes or Jain Zar. He also grants a 12" bubble of ''Fearless'' to make sure your fragile units hold the line.
	*'''The Abominant''' The ugly mutant Genestealer version of the Hulk, challenging the Patriarch himself as the ultimate GC killer. He might look like something from the texas chainsaw massacre and is uglier than Joseph Merrick but this guy is one you don't want leaping straight towards your tank battery. He comes armed with a big hammer... but what a hammer it is! it can split land raiders in two with a devastating '''strength 12''' attack! He is also near impossible to kill with 5 wounds, D3 regenerative wounds each turn AND bestial vigour allowing him to completely ignore wounds on a 5+ whilst weakening all attacks against him by 1. Give him 3 or 4 Aberrant bodyguards (which he also buffs) and let him loose! ...Horrifying.
	*'''Magus:''' 40 points for an ML1 psyker with access to Biomancy, Telepathy, and Broodmind, as well as a whole bunch of special rules. He can be upgraded to ML2 and you should most definitely do this. He projects a 12" bubble of ''Adamantium Will'' to himself and other Cult units, so while it's not ''as'' good as a psychic hood, he's a denying machine. (Do not underestimate him. With autopass look out sir and a force stave, over a couple of turns he can and will slowly beat his way through all manner of squads and multi-wound models, if you end up in assault.)		*'''Magus:''' 40 points for an ML1 psyker with access to Biomancy, Telepathy, and Broodmind, as well as a whole bunch of special rules. He can be upgraded to ML2 and you should most definitely do this. He projects a 12" bubble of ''Adamantium Will'' to himself and other Cult units, so while it's not ''as'' good as a psychic hood, he's a denying machine. (Do not underestimate him. With autopass look out sir and a force stave, over a couple of turns he can and will slowly beat his way through all manner of squads and multi-wound models, if you end up in assault.)
	*'''Primus:''' Cheap and cheerful. Same str 4 T3, but with the ablity to join non-genestealer units. Grants a 12" bubble of ''Hatred'' to really buff up your close combat potential.		*'''Primus:''' Cheap and cheerful. Same str 4 T3, but with the ablity to join non-genestealer units. Grants a 12" bubble of ''Hatred'' to really buff up your close combat potential.

62.25.109.196: /* HQ */

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	===HQ===		===HQ===
	*'''Patriarch:''' Just under 100 points for an ML1 Super-Genestealer with access to Biomancy, Telepathy, and Broodmind; he also makes cult units within 12" Fearless. But, mind games aren’t the Patriarch’s only hobby. He also enjoys ripping out 4 S6 attacks with Rending, Shred, '''and''' AP3, and can buy familiars to add even more S4 attacks to the pile. [[Kharn\|A pretty fun guy]], for a ‘nid. Ultimately, with the Patriarch's combination of psychic powers and beastly stats, with invisibility on he can go toe to toe with most characters, specially since he ''will'' beat them to the punch unless they are a daemon princes or Jain Zar. He also grants a 12" bubble of ''Fearless'' to make sure your fragile units hold the line.		*'''Patriarch:''' Just under 100 points for an ML1 Super-Genestealer with access to Biomancy, Telepathy, and Broodmind; he also makes cult units within 12" Fearless. But, mind games aren’t the Patriarch’s only hobby. He also enjoys ripping out 4 S6 attacks with Rending, Shred, '''and''' AP3, and can buy familiars to add even more S4 attacks to the pile. [[Kharn\|A pretty fun guy]], for a ‘nid. Ultimately, with the Patriarch's combination of psychic powers and beastly stats, with invisibility on he can go toe to toe with most characters, specially since he ''will'' beat them to the punch unless they are a daemon princes or Jain Zar. He also grants a 12" bubble of ''Fearless'' to make sure your fragile units hold the line.
			*'''The Abominant''' The ugly mutant Genestealer version of the Hulk, challenging the Patriarch himself as the ultimate GC killer. He might look like something from the texas chainsaw massacre and is uglier than Joseph Merrick but this guy is one you don't want leaping straight towards your tank battery. He comes armed with a big hammer... but what a hammer it is! it can split land raiders in two with a devastating '''strength 12''' attack! He is also near impossible to kill with 5 wounds, D3 regenerative wounds each turn AND bestial vigour allowing him to completely ignore wounds on a 5+ whilst weakening all attacks against him by 1. Give him 3 or 4 Aberrant bodyguards (which he also buffs) and let him loose! ...Horrifying.
	*'''Magus:''' 40 points for an ML1 psyker with access to Biomancy, Telepathy, and Broodmind, as well as a whole bunch of special rules. He can be upgraded to ML2 and you should most definitely do this. He projects a 12" bubble of ''Adamantium Will'' to himself and other Cult units, so while it's not ''as'' good as a psychic hood, he's a denying machine. (Do not underestimate him. With autopass look out sir and a force stave, over a couple of turns he can and will slowly beat his way through all manner of squads and multi-wound models, if you end up in assault.)		*'''Magus:''' 40 points for an ML1 psyker with access to Biomancy, Telepathy, and Broodmind, as well as a whole bunch of special rules. He can be upgraded to ML2 and you should most definitely do this. He projects a 12" bubble of ''Adamantium Will'' to himself and other Cult units, so while it's not ''as'' good as a psychic hood, he's a denying machine. (Do not underestimate him. With autopass look out sir and a force stave, over a couple of turns he can and will slowly beat his way through all manner of squads and multi-wound models, if you end up in assault.)
	*'''Primus:''' Cheap and cheerful. Same str 4 T3, but with the ablity to join non-genestealer units. Grants a 12" bubble of ''Hatred'' to really buff up your close combat potential.		*'''Primus:''' Cheap and cheerful. Same str 4 T3, but with the ablity to join non-genestealer units. Grants a 12" bubble of ''Hatred'' to really buff up your close combat potential.
	*'''Acolyte Iconward:''' Your other HQ choice, and thankfully not limited to a one only deal in the Cult Insurrection Detachment. His statline is only marginally better than a normal Acolyte ''(+1 BS, W, A)'' and his stock gear is useless crap. He comes with a Sacred Cult Banner, granting Furious Charge to units within 12". His other rule is his ''Nexus of Devotion'' which grants all friendly cult units within 12" the ''Feel No Pain (6+)'' rule, or improves it by one. This gives a layer of protection in an army where 5+ saves essentially mean no save at all.		*'''Acolyte Iconward:''' Your other HQ choice, and thankfully not limited to a one only deal in the Cult Insurrection Detachment. His statline is only marginally better than a normal Acolyte ''(+1 BS, W, A)'' and his stock gear is useless crap. He comes with a Sacred Cult Banner, granting Furious Charge to units within 12". His other rule is his ''Nexus of Devotion'' which grants all friendly cult units within 12" the ''Feel No Pain (6+)'' rule, or improves it by one. This gives a layer of protection in an army where 5+ saves essentially mean no save at all.


	====Ghosar Quintus Broodkin====		====Ghosar Quintus Broodkin====

62.25.109.196: /* Why Play Genestealer Cults? */

2018-09-14T10:16:55Z

Why Play Genestealer Cults?

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	*Your dudes have no durability to speak of. The whole army is T3 with 5+ armor, for the most part. Flamethrowers and basic infantry weapons wreck your shit.		*Your dudes have no durability to speak of. The whole army is T3 with 5+ armor, for the most part. Flamethrowers and basic infantry weapons wreck your shit.
	*You're gonna have a bad time in kill point games. If your enemy is allowed to castle up, you have very few tools for actually threatening them. You also have a hell of a time dealing with Deathstars. The army is designed to pick apart an enemy army piece by piece, but if your enemy is one solid block of dudes you're going to have a hard time carving them up.		*You're gonna have a bad time in kill point games. If your enemy is allowed to castle up, you have very few tools for actually threatening them. You also have a hell of a time dealing with Deathstars. The army is designed to pick apart an enemy army piece by piece, but if your enemy is one solid block of dudes you're going to have a hard time carving them up.
	*Fliers are going to give you fits. Your ranged anti-armor is already kind of lacking, and very few fliers are going to politely land next to your dudes so you can cut the pilot out of the cockpit with a cement saw.		*Fliers are going to give you fits. Your ranged anti-armor is already kind of lacking, and very few fliers are going to politely land next to your dudes so you can cut the pilot out of the cockpit with a cement saw. Or use missile launchers on Sentinels, its the only reliable anti-air weapon.
	*Your shooting is decent, but most of your ability to tackle tough targets comes from melee. That said, the satisfaction of watching an Imperial Knight go down to a bunch of miners armed with power tools is second to none. Just be prepared for massive casualties.		*Your shooting is decent, but most of your ability to tackle tough targets comes from melee. That said, the satisfaction of watching an Imperial Knight go down to a bunch of miners armed with power tools is second to none. Just be prepared for massive casualties.
	*<s>Allying with 'Nids or Imperial Guard fucks with your Cult Ambush abilities, as they technically count as "enemy models" for the purposes of ambushing or returning to the shadows.</s> Woo, the FAQ clarified that allies don't fuck with your Ambushing!		*<s>Allying with 'Nids or Imperial Guard fucks with your Cult Ambush abilities, as they technically count as "enemy models" for the purposes of ambushing or returning to the shadows.</s> Woo, the FAQ clarified that allies don't fuck with your Ambushing!

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Come the Apocalypse

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	*'''Chaos Space Marines''' Space Marines... But less heretical.		*'''Chaos Space Marines''' Space Marines... But less heretical.

	*'''Chaos ~~Demonstrations~~''' No great heavy support options to accompany Genestealers however Daemons of Slaanesh partner well with them.		*'''Chaos Daemons''' No great heavy support options to accompany Genestealers however Daemons of Slaanesh partner well with them.
	*'''Skitarii''' Their much better shooting skills and Anti-Air may well make up for your problems in both, but at Come the Apocalypse level they really aren't worth the hassle, Guardsmen are a much better choice, seen as they can provide that needed AA and won't waste turns standing around. Pass.		*'''Skitarii''' Their much better shooting skills and Anti-Air may well make up for your problems in both, but at Come the Apocalypse level they really aren't worth the hassle, Guardsmen are a much better choice, seen as they can provide that needed AA and won't waste turns standing around. Pass.
	*'''Cult Mechanicus''' Holy Requisitioner and Elimination Maniple are neat and fluffwise it fits to an infected mining colony.		*'''Cult Mechanicus''' Holy Requisitioner and Elimination Maniple are neat and fluffwise it fits to an infected mining colony.