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	*'''Blood Tithe''': Although the annoying Mark of Khorne tax on every unit (non Daemon ofc) and the Possessed tax (when using a slaughtercult formation) for the minimum requirement, the Blood Tithe table really does add so much to your army! Giving your entire army Feel No Pain can help swing a combat in your favour and giving everyone +1 attack can mean the difference of missing an extra BT point or gain extra per turn and seriously weakening your enemy! Use this table to your full advantage!		*'''Blood Tithe''': Although the annoying Mark of Khorne tax on every unit (non Daemon ofc) and the Possessed tax (when using a slaughtercult formation) for the minimum requirement, the Blood Tithe table really does add so much to your army! Giving your entire army Feel No Pain can help swing a combat in your favour and giving everyone +1 attack can mean the difference of missing an extra BT point or gain extra per turn and seriously weakening your enemy! Use this table to your full advantage!
	*'''We soar on wings of fire!''': With two formations giving us either 2 units of Raptors, 1 unit of Warp Talons or 2 units of Bikes and a unit of Fleshounds, we really do have an overabundance of fast units, not even including a Jump Daemon Prince of pure shrekage! Fleshhounds are your saving grace for this army since they have scout so use your scouting move to threaten psykers or get closer to the cover as the 5++ and T4 ~~dont~~ mean much against regular bolter-fire! Remember, no first (game) turn assaults for units using Scout (or Infiltrate) Bring as many Fleshhound units as you want since one formation holds 4 units of these little devils!		*'''We soar on wings of fire!''': With two formations giving us either 2 units of Raptors, 1 unit of Warp Talons or 2 units of Bikes and a unit of Fleshounds, we really do have an overabundance of fast units, not even including a Jump Daemon Prince of pure shrekage! Fleshhounds are your saving grace for this army since they have scout so use your scouting move to threaten psykers or get closer to the cover as the 5++ and T4 don't mean much against regular bolter-fire! Remember, no first (game) turn assaults for units using Scout (or Infiltrate) Bring as many Fleshhound units as you want since one formation holds 4 units of these little devils!
	*'''I thought our lucky number was 8?''': Even though the sacred number of Khorne is 8, there is a bucketload of Strength 5 attacks coming from this army since Icon of Wrath is usually around 15 to 20pts per squad which is just awesome if you think about it. 20pts to gain +1 to combat res, Furious Charge and Re-Roll charge range?! So much win.		*'''I thought our lucky number was 8?''': Even though the sacred number of Khorne is 8, there is a bucketload of Strength 5 attacks coming from this army since Icon of Wrath is usually around 15 to 20pts per squad which is just awesome if you think about it. 20pts to gain +1 to combat res, Furious Charge and Re-Roll charge range?! So much win.

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	: 1 VP if you kill an opposing unit that's either falling back or has the Psyker/Brotherhood of Psykers/Psychic Pilot USRs. Since Psykers are more common nowadays thanks to the Psychic phase, this can be nice.		: 1 VP if you kill an opposing unit that's either falling back or has the Psyker/Brotherhood of Psykers/Psychic Pilot USRs. Since Psykers are more common nowadays thanks to the Psychic phase, this can be nice.

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	*'''Chaos Terminators''': They're still damnably expensive, but still benefit from their nebulous power weapon loadout. Since they're stuck with MoK, the best role for them is the anvil unit, deep-striking on the field and grabbing whatever they can to thin the herd and suck up an untimely assault. If you don't care about them surviving, you can throw in combi-weapons if you can spare the points just to make the Blood Tithe worth it. Chaos Terminators are a good unit for getting Blood Tithe points since they are solid at ranged combat due to their combi-weapons and are pretty nasty in close combat by the own and then Blood Tithe just further boosts their offensive powers. FnP Terminators? Furious Charge + Rage Terminators? 3 attack '''BASE''' Terminators? The world is your oyster.		*'''Chaos Terminators''': They're still damnably expensive, but still benefit from their nebulous power weapon loadout. Since they're stuck with MoK, the best role for them is the anvil unit, deep-striking on the field and grabbing whatever they can to thin the herd and suck up an untimely assault. If you don't care about them surviving, you can throw in combi-weapons if you can spare the points just to make the Blood Tithe worth it. Chaos Terminators are a good unit for getting Blood Tithe points since they are solid at ranged combat due to their combi-weapons and are pretty nasty in close combat by the own and then Blood Tithe just further boosts their offensive powers. FnP Terminators? Furious Charge + Rage Terminators? 3 attack '''BASE''' Terminators? The world is your oyster.

	*'''Bloodcrushers''': They're still really shit here. Fearless doesn't help the fact that they only come with a 5++ daemon save and T4. So they die easily despite being Daemons. That being said; these guys are best when used within the formation since they gain +1 attack if they are outnumbered (which is most of the time) plus they can get another +1 attack from either Rage and/or the +1 Attack Blood Tithes which would give each Bloodcrusher 5 Strength 6 (daemons of khorne have furious change and these are base 5) AP3 attacks at WS5 on the charge, plus a Strength 5 HoW hit. Imagine that each Bloodcrusher is a Chapter Master with a jump pack and relic blade and it's actually not far off. Just be wary of ANYTHING Strength 8 or above since it will instant death them. If only Feel No Pain Blood Tithe worked against instant death!		*'''Bloodcrushers''': They're still really shit here. Fearless doesn't help the fact that they only come with a 5++ daemon save and T4. So they die easily despite being Daemons. That being said; these guys are best when used within the formation since they gain +1 attack if they are outnumbered (which is most of the time) plus they can get another +1 attack from either Rage and/or the +1 Attack Blood Tithes which would give each Bloodcrusher 5 Strength 6 (daemons of khorne have furious change and these are base 5) AP3 attacks at WS5 on the charge, plus a Strength 5 HoW hit. Imagine that each Bloodcrusher is a Chapter Master with a jump pack and relic blade and you're actually not far off. Just be wary of ANYTHING Strength 8 or above since it will instant death them. If only Feel No Pain Blood Tithe worked against instant death!
	**The rules that prevented ICs from joining your daemon units are not found in this codex. Your CSM ICs (no mark/daemonic alignment restrictions in this codex), as well as the Chaos Lord from the Daemonkin Codex, can join this unit. So a Biker or Juggernaut IC could run at the fore in order to mitgate S8 shooting attacks. I still find this unit lacking.		**The rules that prevented ICs from joining your daemon units are not found in this codex. Your CSM ICs (no mark/daemonic alignment restrictions in this codex), as well as the Chaos Lord from the Daemonkin Codex, can join this unit. So a Biker or Juggernaut IC could run at the fore in order to mitgate S8 shooting attacks. I still find this unit lacking.

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	*'''Chaos Terminators''': They're still damnably expensive, but still benefit from their nebulous power weapon loadout. Since they're stuck with MoK, the best role for them is the anvil unit, deep-striking on the field and grabbing whatever they can to thin the herd and suck up an untimely assault. If you don't care about them surviving, you can throw in combi-weapons if you can spare the points just to make the Blood Tithe worth it. Chaos Terminators are a good unit for getting Blood Tithe points since they are solid at ranged combat due to their combi-weapons and are pretty nasty in close combat by the own and then Blood Tithe just further boosts their offensive powers. FnP Terminators? Furious Charge + Rage Terminators? 3 attack '''BASE''' Terminators? The world is your oyster.		*'''Chaos Terminators''': They're still damnably expensive, but still benefit from their nebulous power weapon loadout. Since they're stuck with MoK, the best role for them is the anvil unit, deep-striking on the field and grabbing whatever they can to thin the herd and suck up an untimely assault. If you don't care about them surviving, you can throw in combi-weapons if you can spare the points just to make the Blood Tithe worth it. Chaos Terminators are a good unit for getting Blood Tithe points since they are solid at ranged combat due to their combi-weapons and are pretty nasty in close combat by the own and then Blood Tithe just further boosts their offensive powers. FnP Terminators? Furious Charge + Rage Terminators? 3 attack '''BASE''' Terminators? The world is your oyster.

	*'''Bloodcrushers''': They're still really shit here. Fearless doesn't help the fact that they only come with a 5++ daemon save and T4. So they die easily despite being Daemons. That being said; these guys are best when used within the formation since they gain +1 attack if they are outnumbered (which is most of the time) plus they can get another +1 attack from either Rage and/or the +1 Attack Blood Tithes which would give each Bloodcrusher 5 Strength 6 (daemons of khorne have furious change and these are base 5) AP3 attacks at WS5 on the charge, plus a Strength 5 HoW hit. Just be wary of ANYTHING Strength 8 or above since it will instant death them. If only Feel No Pain Blood Tithe worked against instant death!		*'''Bloodcrushers''': They're still really shit here. Fearless doesn't help the fact that they only come with a 5++ daemon save and T4. So they die easily despite being Daemons. That being said; these guys are best when used within the formation since they gain +1 attack if they are outnumbered (which is most of the time) plus they can get another +1 attack from either Rage and/or the +1 Attack Blood Tithes which would give each Bloodcrusher 5 Strength 6 (daemons of khorne have furious change and these are base 5) AP3 attacks at WS5 on the charge, plus a Strength 5 HoW hit. Imagine that each Bloodcrusher is a Chapter Master with a jump pack and relic blade and it's actually not far off. Just be wary of ANYTHING Strength 8 or above since it will instant death them. If only Feel No Pain Blood Tithe worked against instant death!
	**The rules that prevented ICs from joining your daemon units are not found in this codex. Your CSM ICs (no mark/daemonic alignment restrictions in this codex), as well as the Chaos Lord from the Daemonkin Codex, can join this unit. So a Biker or Juggernaut IC could run at the fore in order to mitgate S8 shooting attacks. I still find this unit lacking.		**The rules that prevented ICs from joining your daemon units are not found in this codex. Your CSM ICs (no mark/daemonic alignment restrictions in this codex), as well as the Chaos Lord from the Daemonkin Codex, can join this unit. So a Biker or Juggernaut IC could run at the fore in order to mitgate S8 shooting attacks. I still find this unit lacking.

1d4chan>MagicJuggler: /* Why Play Khorne Daemonkin? */

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Why Play Khorne Daemonkin?

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	==Why Play [[Khorne]] Daemonkin?==		==Why Play [[Khorne]] Daemonkin?==

	~~Don't bother~~ Daemonkin ~~are a dead duck~~ as of 8th Edition they are no longer a supported faction. Fingers crossed a future dataslate will be released but till then your can mix Chaos Space Marines with Daemons as they have the Keyword CHAOS but the Bloodtithe table is gone and with the new Summoning rules it will never return in ~~its current form~~. Cheers Games Workshop~~.....~~.		A quick Disclaimer: Daemonkin as an army only exist in 7th edition. Cheers Games Workshop.

	Because you're an old neckbeard who can remember the days of a unified codex for all the forces of [[Chaos]], when daemons walked alongside marines. Or you could be thinking that the [[Warriors of Chaos]] had a neato deal on it thanks to [[The End Times]] merging them with Daemons, [[Beastmen]], and later [[Skaven]].		Because you're an old neckbeard who can remember the days of a unified codex for all the forces of [[Chaos]], when daemons walked alongside marines. Or you could be thinking that the [[Warriors of Chaos]] had a neato deal on it thanks to [[The End Times]] merging them with Daemons, [[Beastmen]], and later [[Skaven]].
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	Who this ISN'T for, sadly, is anyone looking for an actually fixed [[Chaos Space Marines]] or [[Daemons]] codex. A lot of the same issues with those books still exist, and it opens up its own bevy of issues. The most glaring issue is that obviously everything has Mark of Khorne or Daemon of Khorne...but has to pay for it? If we are a Khorne only army....why couldn't MoK either be free or discounted? It's a stupidly high tax on all our units.		Who this ISN'T for, sadly, is anyone looking for an actually fixed [[Chaos Space Marines]] or [[Daemons]] codex. A lot of the same issues with those books still exist, and it opens up its own bevy of issues. The most glaring issue is that obviously everything has Mark of Khorne or Daemon of Khorne...but has to pay for it? If we are a Khorne only army....why couldn't MoK either be free or discounted? It's a stupidly high tax on all our units.

	HOWEVER, while not top tier, it is surprisingly strong for a chaos space marine melee based army. ~~Recently Khorne~~ Daemonkin ~~lists have placed very highly at large tournaments. (Albeit~~, it ~~requires spamming of~~ especially ~~strong units such as fleshhounds and Bloodthirsters)~~.		HOWEVER, while not top tier, it is surprisingly strong for a chaos space marine melee based army. Being able to take Heldrakes and Soulgrinders in the same detachment has its uses, and the Gorepack is a decent formation. Daemonkin were pretty much a rush-job army in 7th that existed to hock "NEW AND IMPROVED" Bloodthirsters that were also being released for WHFB End Times, and it shows, especially in the FAQ. Caveat emptor.

	==Pros and Cons of the army==		==Pros and Cons of the army==

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	==Why Play [[Khorne]] Daemonkin?==		==Why Play [[Khorne]] Daemonkin?==

			Don't bother Daemonkin are a dead duck as of 8th Edition they are no longer a supported faction. Fingers crossed a future dataslate will be released but till then your can mix Chaos Space Marines with Daemons as they have the Keyword CHAOS but the Bloodtithe table is gone and with the new Summoning rules it will never return in its current form. Cheers Games Workshop......

	Because you're an old neckbeard who can remember the days of a unified codex for all the forces of [[Chaos]], when daemons walked alongside marines. Or you could be thinking that the [[Warriors of Chaos]] had a neato deal on it thanks to [[The End Times]] merging them with Daemons, [[Beastmen]], and later [[Skaven]].		Because you're an old neckbeard who can remember the days of a unified codex for all the forces of [[Chaos]], when daemons walked alongside marines. Or you could be thinking that the [[Warriors of Chaos]] had a neato deal on it thanks to [[The End Times]] merging them with Daemons, [[Beastmen]], and later [[Skaven]].

1d4chan>Lukash: /* Tactical Objectives */

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Tactical Objectives

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