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1d4chan>Kimarous at 23:35, 20 June 2020

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	[[Category:Warhammer Tactics/Old]]		[[Category:Warhammer Tactics/Old]]
	[[Category:Warhammer 40000 2E]]		[[Category:Warhammer 40000 2E]]

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2A01:4C8:2F:BDF0:1DE2:EC8D:81AC:ACD: /* Shooting */Fixed incorrect information. I happen to have all the 2E core rulebooks, it's called "Wargear", not "Arsenal", at least in English.

2019-09-06T08:35:46Z

Shooting: Fixed incorrect information. I happen to have all the 2E core rulebooks, it's called "Wargear", not "Arsenal", at least in English.

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	Shooting was mostly the same: check range; if in range roll to hit; if hit roll to wound; if wounded opponent attempts save.		Shooting was mostly the same: check range; if in range roll to hit; if hit roll to wound; if wounded opponent attempts save.

	What complicated the game a lot was every weapon and armor having its own profile (one of the core rulebooks, '''~~Arsenal~~''' was basically just weapon profiles and each individual Codex pretty much piled it on), with possibly different hit and armor save modifiers depending on firing mode and Strength of incoming blow; and that's before bringing things like cover, marks of Chaos, wargear and other niceties in the mix. It was as you can imagine one hell of a clusterfuck at times, especially in bigger battles.		What complicated the game a lot was every weapon and armor having its own profile (one of the core rulebooks, '''Wargear''' was basically just weapon profiles and each individual Codex pretty much piled it on), with possibly different hit and armor save modifiers depending on firing mode and Strength of incoming blow; and that's before bringing things like cover, marks of Chaos, wargear and other niceties in the mix. It was as you can imagine one hell of a clusterfuck at times, especially in bigger battles.

	===Assault===		===Assault===

1d4chan>Ironhand69: /* Shooting */

2019-04-12T17:26:59Z

Shooting

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	===Shooting===		===Shooting===
	Shooting was mostly the same: check range; if in range roll to hit; if hit roll to ~~would~~; if wounded opponent attempts save.		Shooting was mostly the same: check range; if in range roll to hit; if hit roll to wound; if wounded opponent attempts save.

	What complicated the game a lot was every weapon and armor having its own profile (one of the core rulebooks, '''Arsenal''' was basically just weapon profiles and each individual Codex pretty much piled it on), with possibly different hit and armor save modifiers depending on firing mode and Strength of incoming blow; and that's before bringing things like cover, marks of Chaos, wargear and other niceties in the mix. It was as you can imagine one hell of a clusterfuck at times, especially in bigger battles.		What complicated the game a lot was every weapon and armor having its own profile (one of the core rulebooks, '''Arsenal''' was basically just weapon profiles and each individual Codex pretty much piled it on), with possibly different hit and armor save modifiers depending on firing mode and Strength of incoming blow; and that's before bringing things like cover, marks of Chaos, wargear and other niceties in the mix. It was as you can imagine one hell of a clusterfuck at times, especially in bigger battles.

	===Assault===		===Assault===

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	This is a placeholder for [[Warhammer_40,~~000_2th_edition~~\|2nd edition]] tactics.		This is a placeholder for [[Warhammer_40,000_2nd_edition\|2nd edition]] tactics.

	==Building Your Army==		==Building Your Army==

1d4chan>MagicJuggler at 18:33, 6 March 2018

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	* Models that did not Charge could Run (move double movement speed in a straight line), move as normal, or forfeit movement in order to enter Overwatch.		* Models that did not Charge could Run (move double movement speed in a straight line), move as normal, or forfeit movement in order to enter Overwatch.
	**'''Hiding:''' If a unit was composed entirely of small enough models (Terminators and cavalry are too big!), did not Run, and ended its move in Cover, it could Hide. Hiding works similarly to Mordheim in that you cannot be targeted by shooting until the enemy gets close to you. You can spot a hidden model up to twice your Initiative in inches away, so a Space Marine can detect hidden models within 8". However, even after spotting a Hidden unit, it merely becomes Detected: although the spotting unit can see without issue, other friendlies can only attack with AOEs (flamers/blasts) and even those only hit on a 4+ on top of normal rolls.		**'''Hiding:''' If a unit was composed entirely of small enough models (Terminators and cavalry are too big!), did not Run, and ended its move in Cover, it could Hide. Hiding works similarly to Mordheim in that you cannot be targeted by shooting until the enemy gets close to you. You can spot a hidden model up to twice your Initiative in inches away, so a Space Marine can detect hidden models within 8". However, even after spotting a Hidden unit, it merely becomes Detected: although the spotting unit can see without issue, other friendlies can only attack with AOEs (flamers/blasts) and even those only hit on a 4+ on top of normal rolls. A unit exits its Hidden/Detected status the moment it Runs or Shoots (even via Overwatch).

	====Overwatch====		====Overwatch====

1d4chan>MagicJuggler: /* Movement */

2018-03-06T18:30:44Z

Movement

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	===Movement===		===Movement===

	The ~~movement phase was a little different back~~ in ~~2nd edition~~. You ~~started with giving an order~~ to ~~every unit~~ (~~that was not~~ fleeing) ~~by putting~~ the ~~correct token next to them~~. ~~You could chose between~~ "Charge" (~~self-explanatory~~), "Run~~" (~~move up to ~~twice~~ the ~~movement score but could not end too~~ close to ~~the enemy or shoot)~~, "~~Move" (move up to movement score but~~ can ~~shoot some weapons)~~, ~~"Stand Ground"~~ (~~cannot move but can shoot at full efficiency~~) and "Overwatch~~" (special order~~ that ~~allowed to fire at the first enemy unit crossing the mini's LoS ''~~during the ~~opponent's turn''~~)		The 2nd Edition Movement Phase has more in common with Warhammer Fantasy than later editions of 40k. The key things to note:

			* You declare charges before anything else: A unit may charge one or more enemy units, and a charge move is a straight line equal to twice the model's move characteristic.

			* All "compulsory moves" (fleeing troops, out of control vehicles, etc) are resolved next. Models resolve their charges afterwards, and then the remainder of units "move as normal."

			* Models that did not Charge could Run (move double movement speed in a straight line), move as normal, or forfeit movement in order to enter Overwatch.
			**'''Hiding:''' If a unit was composed entirely of small enough models (Terminators and cavalry are too big!), did not Run, and ended its move in Cover, it could Hide. Hiding works similarly to Mordheim in that you cannot be targeted by shooting until the enemy gets close to you. You can spot a hidden model up to twice your Initiative in inches away, so a Space Marine can detect hidden models within 8". However, even after spotting a Hidden unit, it merely becomes Detected: although the spotting unit can see without issue, other friendlies can only attack with AOEs (flamers/blasts) and even those only hit on a 4+ on top of normal rolls.

			====Overwatch====

			A unit that forfeits its movement during the Movement Phase may enter Overwatch. (Note: Vehicles may still move and Overwatch). This section is complicated enough to have its own section, will fill out.

	===Psychic===		===Psychic===

1d4chan>MagicJuggler at 15:59, 23 February 2018

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	[[Category:Warhammer 40000 Tactics(2E)]]		[[Category:Warhammer 40000 Tactics(2E)]]
			[[Category:Warhammer Tactics/Old]]
			[[Category:Warhammer 40000 2E]]

1d4chan>MagicJuggler at 02:57, 17 February 2018

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	This is a placeholder for [[Warhammer_40,000_2th_edition\|2nd edition]] tactics.		This is a placeholder for [[Warhammer_40,000_2th_edition\|2nd edition]] tactics.

			==Building Your Army==

			The good news is that battles in 2nd edition are generally of a smaller scale than you're used to. While Guardsmen cost 5 to 4 points from 5th edition onward, they cost 10 points in 2nd edition, while Space Marines were 33 points per model. Likewise, the standard point value for 2nd edition is 1500 points as opposed to the 1850-2000 points of later editions. As a result, 2nd edition games are far smaller in scale by comparison.

			The bad news is that a lot of the armies have special paper templates and bespoke rules, and a lot of options never had corresponding models; if you want to play a Squat army, or use old school Ork minis, you're going to either have to scrounge on Ebay or get to heavy conversion. Likewise, you will need to print out or hunt down a deck of power and warp cards if you're going to go heavy in Psykers.

			The main thing to note however is that you do not have a FoC: You do not have Troops/Elites/Fast Attack/Heavy Support like editions 3rd and onward. However, you must spend at least 25% of your army's points on core units, and you have other restrictions depending on your army.

	==General Tactics==		==General Tactics==
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	===Movement===		===Movement===

	The movement phase was a little different back in 2nd edition. You started with giving an order to every unit (that was not fleeing) by putting the correct token next to them. You could chose between "Charge" (self-explanatory), "Run" (move up to twice the movement score but could not end too close to the enemy or shoot), "Move" (move up to movement score but can shoot some weapons), "Stand Ground" (cannot move but can shoot at full efficiency) and "Overwatch" (special order that allowed to fire at the first enemy unit crossing the mini's LoS ''during the opponent's turn'')		The movement phase was a little different back in 2nd edition. You started with giving an order to every unit (that was not fleeing) by putting the correct token next to them. You could chose between "Charge" (self-explanatory), "Run" (move up to twice the movement score but could not end too close to the enemy or shoot), "Move" (move up to movement score but can shoot some weapons), "Stand Ground" (cannot move but can shoot at full efficiency) and "Overwatch" (special order that allowed to fire at the first enemy unit crossing the mini's LoS ''during the opponent's turn'')

			===Psychic===
			Covered [[Warhammer_40,000/Tactics/Psychic_101(2E)\|here]].

	===Shooting===		===Shooting===