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	*'''Icelus Dreadnought'''		*'''Icelus Dreadnought'''
	The Icelus is the iconic dreadnought for the Emperor's Nightmares, it can kill just about any sort of target. With the default loadout, it can plink with a sniper rifle, then wade in with six attacks on the charge that reroll wounds. Also, since it counts as a monstrous creature and has Furious Charge by default, it will have an average penetration roll of 13. It can take a variety of heavier weapons in order to lose its Nimble rules, a tradeoff acceptable for some. A Relic Blade or Thunder Hammer/Stormshield can be quite effective, spelling near-instant death for characters and tanks alike. Notably, for each Techmarine you take, one Icelus Dreadnought counts as troops. Typically, an Icelus can move 11" a turn, possibly charging 18", seeing as it can reroll the Fleet dice. Considering you can infiltrate 12" away, this puts you in easy charge range, even with cover. To add to the rapetrain nature of the Iceluses, taking 2 Masters of the Forge and 3 Techmarines can mean that you can have a grand total of 8 Icelus Dreadnoughts. This is an incredibly potent alphastrike, the downside being that the T4(6) nature of an Icelus means they're walking missile bait. TL;DR, Icelus Dreads are useful for nearly everything.		The Icelus is the iconic dreadnought for the Emperor's Nightmares, it can kill just about any sort of target. With the default loadout, it can plink with a sniper rifle, then wade in with six attacks on the charge that reroll wounds. Also, since it counts as a monstrous creature and has Furious Charge by default, it will have an average penetration roll of 13. It can take a variety of heavier weapons in order to lose its Nimble rules, a tradeoff acceptable for some. A Relic Blade or Thunder Hammer/Stormshield can be quite effective, spelling near-instant death for characters and tanks alike. Notably, for each Techmarine you take, one Icelus Dreadnought counts as troops. Typically, an Icelus can move 11" a turn, possibly charging 18", seeing as it can reroll the Fleet dice. Considering you can infiltrate 12" away, this puts you in easy charge range, even with cover. To add to the rapetrain nature of the Iceluses, taking 2 Masters of the Forge and 3 Techmarines can mean that you can have a grand total of 8 Icelus Dreadnoughts. This is an incredibly potent alphastrike, the downside being that the T4(6)[Fuck that noise, 6e means it's T6 straight] nature of an Icelus means they're walking missile/powerfist bait. TL;DR, Icelus Dreads are useful for nearly everything.

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	*'''Isidore Demeter'''		*'''Isidore Demeter'''
	The Adjustant of the Dawn, Isidore is a jump pack commander for those who really like getting stuck in. He makes Assault Marines troops slots, has a Chapter Tactics rule granting Furious Charge, has four wounds, and strikes at S6. Costs almost as much as a Land Raider, but worth it if you have a fetish for Assault Marines. He also lets you take an Honor Guard, which is better with Isidore because they're in Terminator Armor, more suited to the Dawn's brute-force tactics. However, Isidore has a jump pack, meaning they'll slow him down, but they can act as ablative wounds ~~untiil the enemy gets within his 18" charge range~~.		The Adjustant of the Dawn, Isidore is a jump pack commander for those who really like getting stuck in. He makes Assault Marines troops slots, has a Chapter Tactics rule granting Furious Charge, has four wounds, and strikes at S6. Costs almost as much as a Land Raider, but worth it if you have a fetish for Assault Marines. He also lets you take an Honor Guard, which is better with Isidore because they're in Terminator Armor, more suited to the Dawn's brute-force tactics. However, Isidore has a jump pack, meaning they'll slow him down, but they can act as ablative wounds. And since he can't leave them, this is a pretty big drawback.
	*'''Eloyes Galen'''		*'''Eloyes Galen'''
	Isidore's opposite, the Keeper of Dusk, a good choice for you sneaky motherfuckers. He makes Nightkin troops choices, grants Scout instead of combat tactics, and has a poisoned 3+ Darkfire(negates effects of night fighting) heavy 3/rapid fire sniper rifle that's AP2. Try saying that all in one go. He lets you take an Honor Guard, but since he's more typically an infiltrator and Honor Guards are typically CC, why the fuck would you want a dedicated shooting leader attacking in close quarters? Well, maybe if you want Scouting Terminators.		Isidore's opposite, the Keeper of Dusk, a good choice for you sneaky motherfuckers. He makes Nightkin troops choices, grants Scout instead of combat tactics, and has a poisoned 3+ Darkfire(negates effects of night fighting) heavy 3/rapid fire sniper rifle that's AP2. Try saying that all in one go. He lets you take an Honor Guard, but since he's more typically an infiltrator and Honor Guards are typically CC, why the fuck would you want a dedicated shooting leader attacking in close quarters? Well, maybe if you want Scouting Terminators.

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	Holy shit, this guy is badass. WS7, four wounds, Eternal Warrior, strikes with his chainfist(!) at initiative EIGHT(!), he penalises leadership by -1 if within 6", and by -2 if he's in base to base contact. The catch? At 350 Euros he costs more than a Land Raider or a small squad of Terminators. Also, his allies have a chance of shooting him if they're within a foot. Whoops. He can also gain free attacks by killing your dudes but what the fuck would you do that for?		Holy shit, this guy is badass. WS7, four wounds, Eternal Warrior, strikes with his chainfist(!) at initiative EIGHT(!), he penalises leadership by -1 if within 6", and by -2 if he's in base to base contact. The catch? At 350 Euros he costs more than a Land Raider or a small squad of Terminators. Also, his allies have a chance of shooting him if they're within a foot. Whoops. He can also gain free attacks by killing your dudes but what the fuck would you do that for?
	*'''Taheton Hector'''		*'''Taheton Hector'''
	Captain of the Second Company, Taheton has a teleport homer and allows drop-podding troops within 6" of him to shoot twice. Not bad. If he dies, a pie plate gets dropped on his position and HAS to scatter, making him a double-edged sword. He also does some rerollable shit with reserves once a turn.		Captain of the Second Company, Taheton has a teleport homer and allows drop-podding troops within 6" of him to shoot twice. Not bad. If he dies, a pie plate gets dropped on his position and HAS to scatter, making him a double-edged sword. He also does some rerollable shit with reserves once a game. Good for a turn-2 alphastrike.
	*'''Leander Nyseos'''		*'''Leander Nyseos'''
	The second-cheapest special character, Leander is butthurt about Sleepless and won't let them attend his parties. How rude. However, he makes any weapons he uses Pinning if attacking at night or outside of 12". Not bad. He also PERMITS(!) you to trade Combat Tactics for Infiltrate. Note that it says "May", not "Must."		The second-cheapest special character, Leander is butthurt about Sleepless and won't let them attend his parties. How rude. However, he makes any weapons he uses Pinning if attacking at night or outside of 12". Not bad. He also PERMITS(!) you to trade Combat Tactics for Infiltrate. Note that it says "May", not "Must."

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2012-06-25T06:37:21Z

Fast Attack

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	*'''Icelus Dreadnought'''		*'''Icelus Dreadnought'''
	The Icelus is the iconic dreadnought for the Emperor's Nightmares, it can kill just about any sort of target. With the default loadout, it can plink with a sniper rifle, then wade in with six attacks on the charge that reroll wounds. Also, since it counts as a monstrous creature and has Furious Charge by default, it will have an average penetration roll of 13. It can take a variety of heavier weapons in order to lose its Nimble rules, a tradeoff acceptable for some. A Relic Blade or Thunder Hammer/Stormshield can be quite effective, spelling near-instant death for characters and tanks alike. Notably, for each Techmarine you take, one Icelus Dreadnought counts as troops. Typically, an Icelus can move 11" a turn, possibly charging 18", ~~considering~~ it can reroll the Fleet dice. Considering you can infiltrate 12" away, taking 2 Masters of the Forge and 3 Techmarines can mean that you can have a grand total of 8 Icelus Dreadnoughts. This is an incredibly potent alphastrike, ~~but~~ the T4(6) nature of an Icelus means they're walking missile bait. TL;DR, Icelus Dreads are useful for nearly everything.		The Icelus is the iconic dreadnought for the Emperor's Nightmares, it can kill just about any sort of target. With the default loadout, it can plink with a sniper rifle, then wade in with six attacks on the charge that reroll wounds. Also, since it counts as a monstrous creature and has Furious Charge by default, it will have an average penetration roll of 13. It can take a variety of heavier weapons in order to lose its Nimble rules, a tradeoff acceptable for some. A Relic Blade or Thunder Hammer/Stormshield can be quite effective, spelling near-instant death for characters and tanks alike. Notably, for each Techmarine you take, one Icelus Dreadnought counts as troops. Typically, an Icelus can move 11" a turn, possibly charging 18", seeing as it can reroll the Fleet dice. Considering you can infiltrate 12" away, this puts you in easy charge range, even with cover. To add to the rapetrain nature of the Iceluses, taking 2 Masters of the Forge and 3 Techmarines can mean that you can have a grand total of 8 Icelus Dreadnoughts. This is an incredibly potent alphastrike, the downside being that the T4(6) nature of an Icelus means they're walking missile bait. TL;DR, Icelus Dreads are useful for nearly everything.

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	*'''Phobetor Dreadnought'''		*'''Phobetor Dreadnought'''
	First off, dreadnoughts as troops? Fuck yeah. Second off, they grant a single unit within 3" FNP. If possible, it has to be sleepless. He gives +1 LD to Sleepless if near them, also, and has to stay within coherence of them even though he's not in their unit, or else move to join them. (WTF mate.) Can get pissy if his charges get killed.		First off, dreadnoughts as troops? Fuck yeah. Second off, they grant a single unit within 3" FNP. If possible, it has to be sleepless. He gives +1 LD to Sleepless if near them, also, and has to stay within coherence of them even though he's not in their unit, or else move to join them. (WTF mate.) Can get pissy if his charges get killed.

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			*'''Icelus Dreadnought'''
			The Icelus is the iconic dreadnought for the Emperor's Nightmares, it can kill just about any sort of target. With the default loadout, it can plink with a sniper rifle, then wade in with six attacks on the charge that reroll wounds. Also, since it counts as a monstrous creature and has Furious Charge by default, it will have an average penetration roll of 13. It can take a variety of heavier weapons in order to lose its Nimble rules, a tradeoff acceptable for some. A Relic Blade or Thunder Hammer/Stormshield can be quite effective, spelling near-instant death for characters and tanks alike. Notably, for each Techmarine you take, one Icelus Dreadnought counts as troops. Typically, an Icelus can move 11" a turn, possibly charging 18", considering it can reroll the Fleet dice. Considering you can infiltrate 12" away, taking 2 Masters of the Forge and 3 Techmarines can mean that you can have a grand total of 8 Icelus Dreadnoughts. This is an incredibly potent alphastrike, but the T4(6) nature of an Icelus means they're walking missile bait. TL;DR, Icelus Dreads are useful for nearly everything.

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	*'''Techmarine'''		*'''Techmarine'''
	For some reason, you can upgrade Techmarines to non-HQ-slot Masters of the Forge. Why this was a good idea is beyond me, but you can do it. It's about the same as a regular Master of the Forge, including the ability to take one Icelus Dreadnought as troops per Techmarine. They CAN take Servitors, but why you would do so is beyond me.		For some reason, you can upgrade Techmarines to non-HQ-slot Masters of the Forge. Why this was a good idea is beyond me, but you can do it. It's about the same as a regular Master of the Forge, including the ability to take one Icelus Dreadnought as troops per Techmarine. They CAN take Servitors, but why you would do so is beyond me.

			===Troops===
			*'''Tactical Squad'''
			It's still a fucking tactical squad. They take objectives, don't take more than two, tops, because everything else is frankly better. A Secundus character will have stealth, and therefore can grant stealth to these guys, giving them better survivability. Take a ten-man squad with a plasma gun, a lascannon, and a Techmarine with a plasma gun and Prophetic Schematics. Sit in the back field and hunt tanks.
			*'''Scout Squad'''
			The only real change is the ability to upgrade them to Secundus Operatives, giving them WS/BS4 and a 3+ save. May or may not be worth it.
			*'''Sleepless'''
			They Rage, they're Fearless, they charge furiously, and every last one of them can use a thunder hammer. That's right, no limit to special weapons. At 20 bits each, though, you really don't want to do that. They can have Jump Packs, but this shit gets expensive like a bitchy girlfriend. If they don't have a character with them, they can go nuts. This is rather bad. Often accompanied by...
			*'''Phobetor Dreadnought'''
			First off, dreadnoughts as troops? Fuck yeah. Second off, they grant a single unit within 3" FNP. If possible, it has to be sleepless. He gives +1 LD to Sleepless if near them, also, and has to stay within coherence of them even though he's not in their unit, or else move to join them. (WTF mate.) Can get pissy if his charges get killed.

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			*'''Primus Terminator Squad'''
			These guys max out at 5 Terminators, but Among Equals means that they can split and rejoin other Terminator squads. Or at least, could if you could take more than one Primus Terminator squad. It can work with a Terminator Command Squad or Honor Guard.
			*'''Night Owl Bulwark Squad'''
			These guys are the Sternguards of the Nightmares. They get two heavy weapons regardless of squad size, but with Special Ammunition, it's a bit of a trade-off. Combi-weapons are best here, preferably anti-tank weapons as Dragonfire rounds ignore cover and thus make Flamers less attractive. Notably, a Darkfire Flare Rifle, if it hits the target, will let the rest of the squad re-roll missed hits. This is significant.
			*'''Secundus Nightkin'''
			A touch expensive at 20 schmuckers a pop, these guys infiltrate and use sniper rifles exclusively. At BS5, they'll almost always hit, so a darkfire flare rifle isn't as useful. One special or heavy weapon per five-man team, and two can have demo-charges. Significantly, they can take hellfire rounds for 30 points per model, making them hit and wound on a 2+. What's the catch, you might ask? It's an AP6 weapon. Not precisely inspiring. Lastly, they have special snowflake stances making them either A: Slow and Purposeful, B: Have defensive grenades, C: Move Through Cover, or D: Immediately go to ground, yet retain the ability to shoot, albeit at BS3. This is where a darkfire flare rifle comes in handy, a 50/50 shot of rerolling your 50/50 other shots? Not terrible. Note that Galen makes these guys Troops, which is pretty cool.
			*'''Dreadnoughts'''
			A typical Dreadnought, until you upgrade it to Veteran. A Primus Dread gets resilience against stuns/shaking and fleet, Secundus gets Stealth and a Darkfire Flare Rifle, Night Owls gain Tank Hunter and +6" range. If you take this, USE THE DAMN MELTA RULE. Last but not least, an Apothecary dread gives a unit within 3" Feel No Pain. This is pretty cool.
			*'''Ironclad Dreadnought'''
			It's a bog-standard Ironclad dread. Move along, citizen.
			*'''Walking Dead Dreadnought'''
			It's a Dreadnought that went insane from lack of sleep. Considering I'm awake at 2 AM writing this, I can sympathise. Immune to stun, can take a heavy flamer, fleet, furious charge, and can take lightning claws. Drop pod it into enemy lines and declare with utter solemnity that forsooth, the Rape Train Got No Brakes.
			*'''Techmarine'''
			For some reason, you can upgrade Techmarines to non-HQ-slot Masters of the Forge. Why this was a good idea is beyond me, but you can do it. It's about the same as a regular Master of the Forge, including the ability to take one Icelus Dreadnought as troops per Techmarine. They CAN take Servitors, but why you would do so is beyond me.

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 *'''Captain'''
 A typical Space Marine Captain with a handful of exceptions.  First being Signs of the Sleepless: Good for a beatstick, don't take it with a powerfist.  He can take hellfire rounds and a sniper rifle, and can use hellfire rounds with his sniper rifle.  Hitting on a 2+ and wounding on a 2+ is fine, except for the fact that it's one shot per round.  Whoop de fucking do, right?  Until you take the Secundus upgrade.  Gets Stealth, Infiltrate, Darkfire(flare) rounds, and the sniper rifle becomes heavy 2 AP 3.  Popping MEQ and Monstrous Critters at a distance is now easy, and he can bring a relic blade in case of close combat.  Alternately, take Terminator armor and a heavy flamer or assault cannon, in case you don't have enough mid-range firepower.  TL;DR, standard Captain who has the option to take special weapons.
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