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	6th edition came out and introduced "Hull Points" as a mechanic for vehicles. While in theory, one could destroy an enemy vehicle by exploding it, in practice, firing enough glancing shots to strip it of health would prevent the extremes of 5th, where lucky dice rolling could have a single lightly-armored truck take five or six direct hits from a Railgun and still stand, while a Leman Russ Battle Tank died to one. If you damage a vehicle enough, it will be destroyed, no extraneous luck required. Unfortunately for many, vehicle damage was still generally an unforgiving affair; add general restrictions preventing Assaulting from most transports, and the fact most infantry could move-and-fire Rapid-fire weapons at full-range, and most transports lost a lot of purpose. The worst insult was the fact that vehicles could not score for objectives, even if they were carrying Troops that could. Some vehicles still had their use (Flyers were very useful to have, as were Serpents and the Catacomb Command Barge) but for the most part, vehicles were missing from the game.		6th edition came out and introduced "Hull Points" as a mechanic for vehicles. While in theory, one could destroy an enemy vehicle by exploding it, in practice, firing enough glancing shots to strip it of health would prevent the extremes of 5th, where lucky dice rolling could have a single lightly-armored truck take five or six direct hits from a Railgun and still stand, while a Leman Russ Battle Tank died to one. If you damage a vehicle enough, it will be destroyed, no extraneous luck required. Unfortunately for many, vehicle damage was still generally an unforgiving affair; add general restrictions preventing Assaulting from most transports, and the fact most infantry could move-and-fire Rapid-fire weapons at full-range, and most transports lost a lot of purpose. The worst insult was the fact that vehicles could not score for objectives, even if they were carrying Troops that could. Some vehicles still had their use (Flyers were very useful to have, as were Serpents and the Catacomb Command Barge) but for the most part, vehicles were missing from the game.

	~~We're now in~~ 7th. Hull points remain, but the damage table is more forgiving; unless using a dedicated anti-tank weapon like a Lascannon or Railgun, a penetrating hit will not outright destroy a vehicle in one go. Combined with missions that favor taking-and-holding objectives in the midfield, as well as allowing any model to score, and vehicles are potentially an important element of the game nowadays, though nowhere as dominant as they were back in 5th edition.		In 7th, Hull points remain, but the damage table is more forgiving; unless using a dedicated anti-tank weapon like a Lascannon or Railgun, a penetrating hit will not outright destroy a vehicle in one go. Combined with missions that favor taking-and-holding objectives in the midfield, as well as allowing any model to score, and vehicles are potentially an important element of the game nowadays, though nowhere as dominant as they were back in 5th edition.

			We are now in 8th. Vehicles, are... Well... Fucked. AV is completely gone, and vehicles are essentially oversized infantry. AS of 2, but a fuckload of wounds. So keep in mind that some of the information in this article is no longer correct.

	===Types of Vehicles, and their Roles===		===Types of Vehicles, and their Roles===

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	*'''Note''': Many people tend to ignore the 2016 supplement, especially if one player doesn't own it. In some cases an entire flgs will have a soft ban on it or just prefer not to use it. Find out with your local group before hand, it could mean the difference on which fliers you bring or leave behind.		*'''Note''': Many people tend to ignore the 2016 supplement, especially if one player doesn't own it. In some cases an entire flgs will have a soft ban on it or just prefer not to use it. Find out with your local group before hand, it could mean the difference on which fliers you bring or leave behind.

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	40k has a word salad of special vehicle-types: Tanks, transports, flyers, skimmers, fast, walkers, chariot, heavy, super-heavy (walkers/flyers/tanks), and so on so forth.		40k has a word salad of special vehicle-types: Tanks, transports, flyers, skimmers, fast, walkers, chariot, heavy, super-heavy (walkers/flyers/tanks), and so on so forth.

	* '''Fast''' Vehicles can fire more weapons on-the-move, and move further on a Flat-Out move.		* '''Fast:''' Vehicles can fire more weapons on-the-move, and move further on a Flat-Out move.
	*'''Tank''' just simply means the vehicle can Tank Shock enemy models and Ram enemy vehicles. Tank Shock is discussed further down.		*'''Tank:''' just simply means the vehicle can Tank Shock enemy models and Ram enemy vehicles. Tank Shock is discussed further down.
	*'''Skimmers''' simply ignore intervening terrain/models when moving, and can elect to Jink should an enemy shoot. Note that although Skimmer by itself doesn't give a move bonus to Flat Out, a Fast Skimmer has a bigger bonus than a Fast Vehicle that isn't a skimmer.		*'''Skimmers:''' simply ignore intervening terrain/models when moving, and can elect to Jink should an enemy shoot. Note that although Skimmer by itself doesn't give a move bonus to Flat Out, a Fast Skimmer has a bigger bonus than a Fast Vehicle that isn't a skimmer.
	*'''Flyer:''' Flyers come in from Reserves, being hard-to-hit, and usually are able to alpha-strike a position without too much reprisal. However, their inability to stay stationary, combined with limited firing arcs, means you usually get one good round of shooting with them every other turn...make them count!		*'''Flyer:''' Flyers come in from Reserves, being hard-to-hit, and usually are able to alpha-strike a position without too much reprisal. However, their inability to stay stationary, combined with limited firing arcs, means you usually get one good round of shooting with them every other turn...make them count!
	**'''Hover:''' This simply means that the Flyer can choose to move as though it were a Fast Skimmer. Though this makes them vulnerable to return fire, it does allow them more freedom in moving/selecting targets.		**'''Hover:''' This simply means that the Flyer can choose to move as though it were a Fast Skimmer. Though this makes them vulnerable to return fire, it does allow them more freedom in moving/selecting targets.
	*'''Walker''' Refers to typically slow moving stumpy robots that can be upgraded with a variety of close combat or long ranged weapons depending on the model and army. Usually best served as support, but can comprise the majority of the force.		*'''Walker:''' Refers to typically slow moving stumpy robots that can be upgraded with a variety of close combat or long ranged weapons depending on the model and army. Usually best served as support, but can comprise the majority of the force.
	*'''Immobile''' Drop Pods, or similar. They can't tank shock, or move or ram, but they generally Deep Strike. Allow short-range units to close quickly.		*'''Immobile:''' Drop Pods, or similar. They can't tank shock, or move or ram, but they generally Deep Strike. Allow short-range units to close quickly.

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	===More Than a Nice Paint Job: Armor Values===		===More Than a Nice Paint Job: Armor Values===
	All vehicles have an armor profile, split into three numbers: Front, Side, and Rear. These ''Armor Values'' mostly range from 10 to 14. AV values are roughly equivalent to Toughness values 4 below them, so ''AV10'' is roughly equivalent to ''T6'', while ''AV14'' is roughly equivalent to ''T10''. However, ''AV'' is stronger against weak weapons than ''T'' for the same equivalent value, as ''AV'' becomes immune to attacks one S point faster (with AV10 being immune to S3 weapons or weaker, while T6 is immune to S2 weapons or weaker), and weaker against strong weapons (AV10 will be wounded on a 1+ by an S9 weapon, whereas no weapon of any strength can automatically wound T6).		All vehicles have an armor profile, split into three numbers: Front, Side, and Rear. These ''Armor Values'' mostly range from 10 to 14. AV values are roughly equivalent to Toughness values 4 below them, so ''AV10'' is roughly equivalent to ''T6'', while ''AV14'' is roughly equivalent to ''T10''. However, ''AV'' is stronger against weak weapons than ''T'' for the same equivalent value, as ''AV'' becomes immune to attacks one S point faster (with AV10 being immune to S3 weapons or weaker, while T6 is immune to S2 weapons or weaker), and weaker against strong weapons (AV10 will be wounded on a 1+ by an S9 weapon, whereas no weapon of any strength can automatically wound T6). Also, it is typically much more difficult to get saves onto your Vehicles (and downright impossible to get armour saves onto them) than it is onto Infantry, so in practice, AV is deceptively fragile and Vehicles will die faster than a Monstrous Creature of similar Toughness.

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	All vehicles have an armor profile, split into three numbers: Front, Side, and Rear. These ''Armor Values'' mostly range from 10 to 14. AV values are roughly equivalent to Toughness values 4 below them, so ''AV10'' is roughly equivalent to ''T6'', while ''AV14'' is roughly equivalent to ''T10''. However, ''AV'' is stronger against weak weapons than ''T'' for the same equivalent value, as ''AV'' becomes immune to attacks one S point faster (with AV10 being immune to S3 weapons or weaker, while T6 is immune to S2 weapons or weaker), and weaker against strong weapons (AV10 will be wounded on a 1+ by an S9 weapon, whereas no weapon of any strength can automatically wound T6).		All vehicles have an armor profile, split into three numbers: Front, Side, and Rear. These ''Armor Values'' mostly range from 10 to 14. AV values are roughly equivalent to Toughness values 4 below them, so ''AV10'' is roughly equivalent to ''T6'', while ''AV14'' is roughly equivalent to ''T10''. However, ''AV'' is stronger against weak weapons than ''T'' for the same equivalent value, as ''AV'' becomes immune to attacks one S point faster (with AV10 being immune to S3 weapons or weaker, while T6 is immune to S2 weapons or weaker), and weaker against strong weapons (AV10 will be wounded on a 1+ by an S9 weapon, whereas no weapon of any strength can automatically wound T6).

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	\|+ Armor Values		\|+ Armor Values
	! Number !! Description !! Toughness Equivalent !! Maximum Immune Strength !! Minimum Guaranteed Injury		! Number !! Description !! Toughness Equivalent !! Maximum Immune Strength !! Minimum Guaranteed Injury Strength
	\|-		\|- align="center"
	!10		!10
	\|Super-Light armor. Not even armor, really, just a plate covering the structure of the vehicle. Usually found on small, fast craft and the rear of heavier vehicles. A Space Marine can ''punch'' through this.		\|Super-Light armor. Not even armor, really, just a plate covering the structure of the vehicle. Usually found on small, fast craft and the rear of heavier vehicles. A Space Marine can ''punch'' through this.
	\| 6 \|\| 3 \|\| 9		\| 6 \|\| 3 \|\| 9
	\|-		\|- align="center"
	!11		!11
	\|Light armor, or some actual armor plating. Scout vehicles usually get something like this. A Space Marine can't punch through this, but a Heavy Bolter can. It'll stop most infantry weapons but crumple before real firepower.		\|Light armor, or some actual armor plating. Scout vehicles usually get something like this. A Space Marine can't punch through this, but a Heavy Bolter can. It'll stop most infantry weapons but crumple before real firepower.
	\| 7 \|\| 4 \|\| 10		\| 7 \|\| 4 \|\| 10
	\|-		\|- align="center"
	!12		!12
	\|Medium armor. Now we're talking! This is the first armor value that takes dedicated anti-tank weaponry to fight, and even a Krak Missile only stands a 50% chance of doing anything. The Chimera enjoys a front plate with this.		\|Medium armor. Now we're talking! This is the first armor value that takes dedicated anti-tank weaponry to fight, and even a Krak Missile only stands a 50% chance of doing anything. The Chimera enjoys a front plate with this.
	\| 8 \|\| 5 \|\| -		\| 8 \|\| 5 \|\| -
	\|-		\|- align="center"
	!13		!13
	\|Heavy armor. Autocannons will barely scratch this, and Krak grenades will just leave an ugly scuff on the paint. The Predator has this, as does Necron Quantum Shielding.		\|Heavy armor. Autocannons will barely scratch this, and Krak grenades will just leave an ugly scuff on the paint. The Predator has this, as does Necron Quantum Shielding.
	\| 9 \|\| 6 \|\| -		\| 9 \|\| 6 \|\| -
	\|-		\|- align="center"
	!14		!14
	\|Super-Heavy armor. The purview of walking, rolling and floating fortresses with a reputation for being stupidly hard to kill. The Land Raider and Leman Russ get this, as do most Lord of War slot vehicles. Either find a way around this, use melta weapons, or the strongest ordnance you have, because nothing else will work.		\|Super-Heavy armor. The purview of walking, rolling and floating fortresses with a reputation for being stupidly hard to kill. The Land Raider and Leman Russ get this, as do most Lord of War slot vehicles. Either find a way around this, use melta weapons, or the strongest ordnance you have, because nothing else will work.
	\| 10 \|\| 7 \|\| -		\| 10 \|\| 7 \|\| -
	\|-		\|- align="center"
	!15		!15
	\|Titan armor. Mostly the realm of Fortifications, but some high-end Super-Heavies get it too. If you run into this...just give up.		\|Titan armor. Mostly the realm of Fortifications, but some high-end Super-Heavies get it too. If you run into this...just give up.

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	===More Than a Nice Paint Job: Armor Values===		===More Than a Nice Paint Job: Armor Values===
	All vehicles have an armor profile, split into three numbers: Front, Side, and Rear. These ''Armor Values'' mostly range from 10 to 14.		All vehicles have an armor profile, split into three numbers: Front, Side, and Rear. These ''Armor Values'' mostly range from 10 to 14. AV values are roughly equivalent to Toughness values 4 below them, so ''AV10'' is roughly equivalent to ''T6'', while ''AV14'' is roughly equivalent to ''T10''. However, ''AV'' is stronger against weak weapons than ''T'' for the same equivalent value, as ''AV'' becomes immune to attacks one S point faster (with AV10 being immune to S3 weapons or weaker, while T6 is immune to S2 weapons or weaker), and weaker against strong weapons (AV10 will be wounded on a 1+ by an S9 weapon, whereas no weapon of any strength can automatically wound T6).

	~~'''AV10:'''~~ Super-Light armor. Not even armor, really, just a plate covering the structure of the vehicle. Usually found on small, fast craft and the rear of heavier vehicles. A Space Marine can ''punch'' through this.		{\| class="wikitable "
			\|+ Armor Values
	~~'''AV11:'''~~ Light armor, or some actual armor plating. Scout vehicles usually get something like this. A Space Marine can't punch through this, but a Heavy Bolter can. It'll stop most infantry weapons but crumple before real firepower.		! Number !! Description !! Toughness Equivalent !! Maximum Immune Strength !! Minimum Guaranteed Injury
			\|-
	~~'''AV12:'''~~ Medium armor. Now we're talking! This is the first armor value that takes dedicated anti-tank weaponry to fight, and even a Krak Missile only stands a 50% chance of doing anything. The Chimera enjoys a front plate with this.		!10
			\|Super-Light armor. Not even armor, really, just a plate covering the structure of the vehicle. Usually found on small, fast craft and the rear of heavier vehicles. A Space Marine can ''punch'' through this.
	~~'''AV13:'''~~ Heavy armor. Autocannons will barely scratch this, and Krak grenades will just leave an ugly scuff on the paint. The Predator has this, as does Necron Quantum Shielding.		\| 6 \|\| 3 \|\| 9
			\|-
	~~'''AV14:'''~~ Super-Heavy armor. The purview of walking, rolling and floating fortresses with a reputation for being stupidly hard to kill. The Land Raider and Leman Russ get this, as do most Lord of War slot vehicles. Either find a way around this, use melta weapons, or the strongest ordnance you have, because nothing else will work.		!11
			\|Light armor, or some actual armor plating. Scout vehicles usually get something like this. A Space Marine can't punch through this, but a Heavy Bolter can. It'll stop most infantry weapons but crumple before real firepower.
	~~'''AV15:'''~~ Titan armor. Mostly the realm of Fortifications, but some high-end Super-Heavies get it too. If you run into this...just give up.		\| 7 \|\| 4 \|\| 10
			\|-
			!12
			\|Medium armor. Now we're talking! This is the first armor value that takes dedicated anti-tank weaponry to fight, and even a Krak Missile only stands a 50% chance of doing anything. The Chimera enjoys a front plate with this.
			\| 8 \|\| 5 \|\| -
			\|-
			!13
			\|Heavy armor. Autocannons will barely scratch this, and Krak grenades will just leave an ugly scuff on the paint. The Predator has this, as does Necron Quantum Shielding.
			\| 9 \|\| 6 \|\| -
			\|-
			!14
			\|Super-Heavy armor. The purview of walking, rolling and floating fortresses with a reputation for being stupidly hard to kill. The Land Raider and Leman Russ get this, as do most Lord of War slot vehicles. Either find a way around this, use melta weapons, or the strongest ordnance you have, because nothing else will work.
			\| 10 \|\| 7 \|\| -
			\|-
			!15
			\|Titan armor. Mostly the realm of Fortifications, but some high-end Super-Heavies get it too. If you run into this...just give up.
			\| 11 \|\| 8 \|\| -
			\|}

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	*'''Flyer:''' Flyers come in from Reserves, being hard-to-hit, and usually are able to alpha-strike a position without too much reprisal. However, their inability to stay stationary, combined with limited firing arcs, means you usually get one good round of shooting with them every other turn...make them count!		*'''Flyer:''' Flyers come in from Reserves, being hard-to-hit, and usually are able to alpha-strike a position without too much reprisal. However, their inability to stay stationary, combined with limited firing arcs, means you usually get one good round of shooting with them every other turn...make them count!
	**'''Hover:''' This simply means that the Flyer can choose to move as though it were a Fast Skimmer. Though this makes them vulnerable to return fire, it does allow them more freedom in moving/selecting targets.		**'''Hover:''' This simply means that the Flyer can choose to move as though it were a Fast Skimmer. Though this makes them vulnerable to return fire, it does allow them more freedom in moving/selecting targets.
	*'''Walker''' Refers to typically slow moving stumpy robots that can be upgraded with a variety of close combat or long ranged weapons depending on the model and army. Usually best served as support, but can comprise the majority of the force.		*'''Walker''' Refers to typically slow moving stumpy robots that can be upgraded with a variety of close combat or long ranged weapons depending on the model and army. Usually best served as support, but can comprise the majority of the force.
			*'''Immobile''' Drop Pods, or similar. They can't tank shock, or move or ram, but they generally Deep Strike. Allow short-range units to close quickly.

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	All vehicles have an armor profile, split into three numbers: Front, Side, and Rear. These ''Armor Values'' mostly range from 10 to 14.		All vehicles have an armor profile, split into three numbers: Front, Side, and Rear. These ''Armor Values'' mostly range from 10 to 14.

	'''*AV10:''' Super-Light armor. Not even armor, really, just a plate covering the structure of the vehicle. Usually found on small, fast craft and the rear of heavier vehicles. A Space Marine can ''punch'' through this.		'''AV10:''' Super-Light armor. Not even armor, really, just a plate covering the structure of the vehicle. Usually found on small, fast craft and the rear of heavier vehicles. A Space Marine can ''punch'' through this.

	'''*AV11:''' Light armor, or some actual armor plating. Scout vehicles usually get something like this. A Space Marine can't punch through this, but a Heavy Bolter can. It'll stop most infantry weapons but crumple before real firepower.		'''AV11:''' Light armor, or some actual armor plating. Scout vehicles usually get something like this. A Space Marine can't punch through this, but a Heavy Bolter can. It'll stop most infantry weapons but crumple before real firepower.

	'''*AV12:''' Medium armor. Now we're talking! This is the first armor value that takes dedicated anti-tank weaponry to fight, and even a Krak Missile only stands a 50% chance of doing anything. The Chimera enjoys a front plate with this.		'''AV12:''' Medium armor. Now we're talking! This is the first armor value that takes dedicated anti-tank weaponry to fight, and even a Krak Missile only stands a 50% chance of doing anything. The Chimera enjoys a front plate with this.

	'''*AV13:''' Heavy armor. Autocannons will barely scratch this, and Krak grenades will just leave an ugly scuff on the paint. The Predator has this, as does Necron Quantum Shielding.		'''AV13:''' Heavy armor. Autocannons will barely scratch this, and Krak grenades will just leave an ugly scuff on the paint. The Predator has this, as does Necron Quantum Shielding.

	'''*AV14:''' Super-Heavy armor. The purview of walking, rolling and floating fortresses with a reputation for being stupidly hard to kill. The Land Raider and Leman Russ get this, as do most Lord of War slot vehicles. Either find a way around this, use melta weapons, or the strongest ordnance you have, because nothing else will work.		'''AV14:''' Super-Heavy armor. The purview of walking, rolling and floating fortresses with a reputation for being stupidly hard to kill. The Land Raider and Leman Russ get this, as do most Lord of War slot vehicles. Either find a way around this, use melta weapons, or the strongest ordnance you have, because nothing else will work.

	'''*AV15:''' Titan armor. Mostly the realm of Fortifications, but some high-end Super-Heavies get it too. If you run into this...just give up.		'''AV15:''' Titan armor. Mostly the realm of Fortifications, but some high-end Super-Heavies get it too. If you run into this...just give up.

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