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	Xenos [[In_Spaaace\|IN SPAAAAC]]… er, in 30k.		Xenos [[In_Spaaace\|IN SPAAAAC]]… er, in 30k.

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Other Codexes

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	== Other Codexes ==		== Other Codexes ==
	=== Chaos Daemons ===		=== Chaos Daemons ===
	~~It seems, at this point, that~~ the ~~Warhammer 40,000 Chaos~~ Daemons ~~codex~~ is a ~~fully compatible list already~~, ~~and they’ve got some~~ Heresy-~~specific toys to help~~ them ~~compete (Samus, Cor’bax, Word Bearer Battle Brothers, etc.) There probably isn’t anything that needs~~ to ~~be changed; if there is, Forge World will be on it~~.		While the 40K Daemons list is perfectly suitable to ally in a 30k army of Word Bearers, ''Horus Heresy Book Eight: Malevolence'' actually did a bizarre thing: They released a new army called "Daemons of the Ruinstorm". This army, which represents the daemons as an unknown army of erratic xenoforms with no information, grants them a near-unprecedented degree of customization matched only by the Tyranids of 4th Edition while also making them very unique compared to the nineteen flavors of space marines and two flavors of guardsmen.

	=== Chaos Space Marines ===		=== Chaos Space Marines ===
	40k Chaos Space Marines don’t exactly fit well in 30k, thematically. That said, for rare pre-Heresy renegade Legiones Astartes, you do have a number of options: from Word Bearers, to Blackshields (''Horus Heresy Book Six Retribution''), to ordinary Legion lists (possibly with Imperialis Militia & Cults as allies). You’re better off proxying Daemon Engines as regular 30k vehicles anyway, and if you love Chaos Spawn or Plague Zombies or Obliterators or whatever, maybe ally some proxied Mechanicum.		40k Chaos Space Marines don’t exactly fit well in 30k, thematically. That said, for rare pre-Heresy renegade Legiones Astartes, you do have a number of options: from Word Bearers, to Blackshields (''Horus Heresy Book Six: Retribution''), to ordinary Legion lists (possibly with Imperialis Militia & Cults as allies). You’re better off proxying Daemon Engines as regular 30k vehicles anyway, and if you love Chaos Spawn or Plague Zombies or Obliterators or whatever, maybe ally some proxied Mechanicum.

	=== Khorne Daemonkin ===		=== Khorne Daemonkin ===
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	=== Renegades and Heretics ===		=== Renegades and Heretics ===
	Just play the Imperialis Militia & Cults list (''Horus Heresy Book Five Tempest''), it’s almost the same thing.		Just play the Imperialis Militia & Cults list (''Horus Heresy Book Five: Tempest''), it’s almost the same thing.

	=== Tyrant’s Legion ===		=== Tyrant’s Legion ===
	Just pla– wait, seriously?		Just pla– wait, seriously?

	(Hey, we love the Tyrant’s Legion, but ~~don’t~~ you ~~have the imagination to~~ realize that you can just play a themed Army of Dark Compliance (''Horus Heresy Book Six Retribution'')?)		(Hey, we love the Tyrant’s Legion, but didn't you realize that you can just play a themed Army of Dark Compliance (''Horus Heresy Book Six: Retribution'') to cover this?)

	=== Other Imperial Armies ===		=== Other Imperial Armies ===
	Organizationally, nothing like them existed at this time at the kind of scale that compared with the Legiones Astartes. Even so, something like them probably existed on a small scale, so here is what you would usually proxy them as:		Organizationally, nothing like them existed at this time at the kind of scale that compared with the Legiones Astartes. Even so, something like them probably existed on a small scale, so here is what you would usually proxy them as:

	==== Adepta ~~Sororita~~ ====		==== Adepta Sororitas ====
	Adepta ~~Sororita~~ models, in the sense of being some kind of band of elite Emperor-worshipping space missionaries in power armor, can be represented by the Solar Auxilia list (''Horus Heresy Book Four Conquest''). They wouldn't have access to Heresy exclusive weapons like Volkite weaponry,Raipers~~,no Veletarii~~, nor would they have Leman Russ, Malcador, or Baneblade variants. Arco-flagellants make decent stand-ins for Ogryn Charonites. While Penitent Engines's could fill in for Castellax~~. This~~ would require having a Enginseer with a Cortex Controller to avoid becoming [[That Guy]]. Better yet you could ~~wait for~~ Book 7 and use models to represent the Sisters of Silence.		Adepta Sororitas models, in the sense of being some kind of band of elite Emperor-worshipping space missionaries in power armor, can be represented by the Solar Auxilia list (''Horus Heresy Book Four: Conquest''). They wouldn't have access to Heresy exclusive weapons like Volkite weaponry, Raipers, nor would they have Leman Russ, Malcador, or Baneblade variants. Arco-flagellants make decent stand-ins for Ogryn Charonites and Celestians make good stand-ins for Veletarii. While Penitent Engines could fill in for the Castellax, this would require having a Enginseer with a Cortex Controller to avoid becoming [[That Guy]]. Better yet, you could use Talons of the Emperor (''Horus HEresy Book Seven: Inferno'') and use the models to represent the Sisters of Silence.

	==== Grey Knights/Legion of the Damned ====		==== Grey Knights/Legion of the Damned ====
	Grey Knights and Legion of the Damned, as elite super-powered Space Marines without an acknowledged Legion tie, can be represented by the Blackshields list (''Horus Heresy Book Six Retribution'').		Grey Knights and Legion of the Damned, as elite super-powered Space Marines without an acknowledged Legion tie, can be represented by the Blackshields list (''Horus Heresy Book Six: Retribution''), possibly led by one of the [[Knights-Errant]].

	==== Imperial Knights ====		==== Imperial Knights ====
	Imperial Knights can be represented by the Questoris Knights list (''Horus Heresy Book Four Conquest'').		Imperial Knights can be represented by the Questoris Knights list (''Horus Heresy Book Four: Conquest'').

	==== Cult Mechanicus ====		==== Cult Mechanicus ====

1d4chan>Kracked Mynd: /* Genestealer Cults */

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Genestealer Cults

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	* At least one HQ selection must be an Exodite Monarch.		* At least one HQ selection must be an Exodite Monarch.
	* If an Allied Detachment is fielded it may not contain Eldar models (of any kind).		* If an Allied Detachment is fielded it may not contain Eldar models (of any kind).

	~~== Genestealer Cults ==~~
	Another army that (by official accounts, at least) could not have existed during the Great Crusade or even the Horus Heresy afterwards. Unlike Tau (but fittingly, like the Tyranids) however, it is a fairly obvious and appropriate proxy force for several enemies which ''did'' exist during the Great Crusade - all sorts of human forces that were enslaved by xenos or psychic parasites, or simply tyrant-leaders who enforced obedience through forced hypno-conditioning or drug dependence and which used gene-crafted or cybernetically augmented elites.

	On the other hand, these would mostly be better represented with the Imperialis Militia & Cults list (''Horus Heresy Book Five Tempest'') than with the Genestealer Cults list for battles in the Age of Darkness: the ''Rogue Psyker'' represents the Genestealer Magus, the ''Auxilia Ogryn Brute Squads'' represent Abberants, Hybrids can be represented with the ''Feral Warriors'' and ''Tainted Flesh'' Provenances of War, etc. This makes the army compatible with the Age of Darkness ruleset with no special modifications required.

	Nevertheless, this guts the list of its most interesting features, namely the Cult Ambush mechanics and, you know, the ''actual Genestealer'' units. So using the actual Genestealer Cults army list may be worthwhile.

	In fact, the Genestealer Cults list works pretty well in Age of Darkness games without modification. They're kind-of like an inverse-Mechanicum. Like every non-Astartes army in Age of Darkness, they lack the sheer versatility of the Legiones Astartes, and at higher point-level games they work best with allies or as allies.

	== Tau ==		== Tau ==

1d4chan>BibiFloris: /* Adepta Sororita */

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Adepta Sororita

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	==== Adepta Sororita ====		==== Adepta Sororita ====
	Adepta Sororita models, in the sense of being some kind of band of elite Emperor-worshipping space missionaries in power armor, can be represented by the Solar Auxilia list (''Horus Heresy Book Four Conquest''). They wouldn't have access to Heresy exclusive weapons like Volkite weaponry,Raipers,no Veletarii, nor would they have Leman Russ, Malcador, or Baneblade variants. Arco-flagellants make decent stand-ins for Ogryn Charonites. While Penitent Engines's could fill in for Castellax. This would require having a Enginseer with a Cortex Controller to avoid becoming [[~~That_Guy~~]]. Better yet you could wait for Book 7 and use models to represent the Sisters of Silence.		Adepta Sororita models, in the sense of being some kind of band of elite Emperor-worshipping space missionaries in power armor, can be represented by the Solar Auxilia list (''Horus Heresy Book Four Conquest''). They wouldn't have access to Heresy exclusive weapons like Volkite weaponry,Raipers,no Veletarii, nor would they have Leman Russ, Malcador, or Baneblade variants. Arco-flagellants make decent stand-ins for Ogryn Charonites. While Penitent Engines's could fill in for Castellax. This would require having a Enginseer with a Cortex Controller to avoid becoming [[That Guy]]. Better yet you could wait for Book 7 and use models to represent the Sisters of Silence.

	==== Grey Knights/Legion of the Damned ====		==== Grey Knights/Legion of the Damned ====

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Militarum Tempestus

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	==== Militarum Tempestus ====		==== Militarum Tempestus ====
	Militarum Tempestus can use the Solar Auxilia list (''Horus Heresy Book Four Conquest'').		Militarum Tempestus can use the Solar Auxilia list (''Horus Heresy Book Four Conquest'').

			Don't do that - Do Militia with Survivors of a Dark Age, it's cheaper, and closer to what you want.

	==== Inquisition ====		==== Inquisition ====

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	== Other Codexes ==		== Other Codexes ==
	~~=== Skitarii, Blood Angels, Dark Angels, etc. ===~~
	This is not an attempt to provide a stopgap for forces that Forge World has given every indication of preparing to release useful list content for in the future. Sorry, you’ll just have to wait (or, add to the lists yourself).

	=== Chaos Daemons ===		=== Chaos Daemons ===
	It seems, at this point, that the Warhammer 40,000 Chaos Daemons codex is a fully compatible list already, and they’ve got some Heresy-specific toys to help them compete (Samus, Cor’bax, Word Bearer Battle Brothers, etc.) There probably isn’t anything that needs to be changed; if there is, Forge World will be on it.		It seems, at this point, that the Warhammer 40,000 Chaos Daemons codex is a fully compatible list already, and they’ve got some Heresy-specific toys to help them compete (Samus, Cor’bax, Word Bearer Battle Brothers, etc.) There probably isn’t anything that needs to be changed; if there is, Forge World will be on it.

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Skitarii, Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Space Wolves, etc.

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	== Other Codexes ==		== Other Codexes ==
	=== Skitarii, Blood Angels, Dark Angels~~, Space Wolves~~, etc. ===		=== Skitarii, Blood Angels, Dark Angels, etc. ===
	This is not an attempt to provide a stopgap for forces that Forge World has given every indication of preparing to release useful list content for in the future. Sorry, you’ll just have to wait (or, add to the lists yourself).		This is not an attempt to provide a stopgap for forces that Forge World has given every indication of preparing to release useful list content for in the future. Sorry, you’ll just have to wait (or, add to the lists yourself).

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Adepta Sororita

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	==== Adepta Sororita ====		==== Adepta Sororita ====
	Adepta Sororita models, in the sense of being some kind of band of elite Emperor-worshipping space missionaries in power armor, can be represented by the Solar Auxilia list (''Horus Heresy Book Four Conquest'').		Adepta Sororita models, in the sense of being some kind of band of elite Emperor-worshipping space missionaries in power armor, can be represented by the Solar Auxilia list (''Horus Heresy Book Four Conquest''). They wouldn't have access to Heresy exclusive weapons like Volkite weaponry,Raipers,no Veletarii, nor would they have Leman Russ, Malcador, or Baneblade variants. Arco-flagellants make decent stand-ins for Ogryn Charonites. While Penitent Engines's could fill in for Castellax. This would require having a Enginseer with a Cortex Controller to avoid becoming [[That_Guy]]. Better yet you could wait for Book 7 and use models to represent the Sisters of Silence.

	==== Grey Knights/Legion of the Damned ====		==== Grey Knights/Legion of the Damned ====