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1d4chan>Lordfapington69: /* The Game */

2023-06-15T16:42:12Z

The Game

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	* The [[cannon]] sniping issue has just moved to stone-throwers and is arguably worse, due to their effectiveness against a wider variety of targets, indirect fire, +1S and safer misfires.		* The [[cannon]] sniping issue has just moved to stone-throwers and is arguably worse, due to their effectiveness against a wider variety of targets, indirect fire, +1S and safer misfires.
	* Cavalry is significantly more powerful than 8th.		* Cavalry is significantly more powerful than 8th.
	* Magic lores were previously minorly changed so each has a less situational lore and weaken some of the 6th spells. Now almost every spell from every lore has been changed in some manner.		* Magic lores were previously minorly changed so each has a less situational lore attribute and weaken some of the 6th spells. Now almost every spell from every lore has been changed in some manner.
	* Lots of hard to remember and mostly pointless rule complications that pop up from someone saying something stupid on discord with no playtesting. Like everyone getting their own fly rule, or the charge rules changing every decimal edition change.		* Lots of hard to remember and mostly pointless rule complications that pop up from someone saying something stupid on discord with no playtesting. Like everyone getting their own fly rule, or the charge rules changing every decimal edition change.
	* Combined profiles for characters on monsters has had a ripple effect through the whole edition. Impacting rules from regeneration, force organization, magic items etc. Which, often hurts the balance for units that aren't Dreadlords on Dragons.		* Combined profiles for characters on monsters has had a ripple effect through the whole edition. Impacting rules from regeneration, force organization, magic items etc. Which, often hurts the balance for units that aren't Dreadlords on Dragons.

202.160.36.16: /* Good Bad and the Ugly */

2022-10-20T15:05:56Z

Good Bad and the Ugly

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	* This project is run by a tyrant with a few advisor and the occasional referendum.		* This project is run by a tyrant with a few advisor and the occasional referendum.
	* This man has openly admitted on podcast to not playing his game due to warhammer in his city being dead from Age of Sigmar. This does impact playtesting.		* This man has openly admitted on podcast to not playing his game due to warhammer in his city being dead from Age of Sigmar. This does impact playtesting.
	* The creator uses GW cannon, supplemented by historical accuracy, as the ultimate arbiter in deciding what should be included.This can lead to factions that are lore accurate but have (alleged) internal balace issues and unit bloat. Every additional unit may divide the fanbase.		* The creator uses GW cannon, supplemented by historical accuracy, as the ultimate arbiter in deciding what should be included. This can lead to factions that are lore accurate but have (alleged) internal balace issues and unit bloat. Every additional unit may divide the fanbase.
	* He uses WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get) as logic for equipment options, toughness etc. [[What\| for a game without any official models]].		* He uses WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get) as logic for equipment options, toughness etc. [[What\| for a game without any official models]].
	* Really hates factions having access to rule book lores, with most restricted to a few (Empire, High Elves, and Lizardmen).		* Really hates factions having access to rule book lores, with most restricted to a few (Empire, High Elves, and Lizardmen).

202.160.36.16: /* The Creator */

2022-10-20T15:05:26Z

The Creator

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	* This project is run by a tyrant with a few advisor and the occasional referendum.		* This project is run by a tyrant with a few advisor and the occasional referendum.
	* This man has openly admitted on podcast to not playing his game due to warhammer in his city being dead from Age of Sigmar. This does impact playtesting.		* This man has openly admitted on podcast to not playing his game due to warhammer in his city being dead from Age of Sigmar. This does impact playtesting.
	* ~~the~~ creator uses GW cannon, supplemented by historical accuracy, as the ultimate arbiter in deciding what should be included.This can lead to factions that are lore accurate but have (alleged) internal balace issues and unit bloat. Every additional unit may divide the fanbase.		* The creator uses GW cannon, supplemented by historical accuracy, as the ultimate arbiter in deciding what should be included.This can lead to factions that are lore accurate but have (alleged) internal balace issues and unit bloat. Every additional unit may divide the fanbase.
	* He uses WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get) as logic for equipment options, toughness etc. [[What\| for a game without any official models]].		* He uses WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get) as logic for equipment options, toughness etc. [[What\| for a game without any official models]].
	* Really hates factions having access to rule book lores, with most restricted to a few (Empire, High Elves, and Lizardmen).		* Really hates factions having access to rule book lores, with most restricted to a few (Empire, High Elves, and Lizardmen).

24.219.145.208: /* The Updated Armies */

2022-10-17T09:14:03Z

The Updated Armies

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	==== The Updated Armies ====		==== The Updated Armies ====
	=====[[Bretonnia]]=====		=====[[Bretonnia]]=====
	* Was borderline [[cheese\|op]] with the Lance Formation making ~~knight's errant hitting~~ harder than ~~dragon princes~~, however, the update to Lance Formation removed Devastating Charge from them and made them relevant but no longer endowed with insane numbers of attacks. The Lore of the Lady is made to protect their knights and help out in duels, working as a support lore. Unfortunately, you can bring the guns they had in pre-5th Edition without giving up any of the Blessing. All in all, Bretonnia after its rework is a relevant faction again without being over the top		* Was borderline [[cheese\|op]] with the Lance Formation making Knights Errant hit harder than Dragon Princes, however, the update to Lance Formation removed Devastating Charge from them and made them relevant but no longer endowed with insane numbers of attacks. The Lore of the Lady is made to protect their knights and help out in duels, working as a support lore. Unfortunately, you can bring the guns they had in pre-5th Edition without giving up any of the Blessing. All in all, Bretonnia after its rework is a relevant faction again without being over the top

	** They also have cheap but low Leadership Men-at-Arms. Bowmen can come out on top point for point with Elf archers so long as they can manage to fire first (otherwise, they'll generally panic and flee), and Men at Arms can make cost effective, if not particularly threatening, chaff.		** They also have cheap but low Leadership Men-at-Arms. Bowmen can come out on top point for point with Elf archers so long as they can manage to fire first (otherwise, they'll generally panic and flee), and Men at Arms can make cost effective, if not particularly threatening, chaff.

24.219.145.208: /* The Updated Armies */

2022-10-17T09:13:25Z

The Updated Armies

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	==== The Updated Armies ====		==== The Updated Armies ====
	=====[[Bretonnia]]=====		=====[[Bretonnia]]=====
	* Was borderline [[cheese\|op]] with the Lance Formation making knight's errant hitting harder than dragon princes, however, the update to Lance Formation removed Devastating Charge from them and made them relevant but no longer endowed with insane numbers of attacks. The Lore of the Lady is made to protect their knights and help out in duels, working as a support lore. Unfortunately, you can bring the [[guns~~\|firearm]]~~ they had in pre-5th Edition without giving up any of the Blessing.		* Was borderline [[cheese\|op]] with the Lance Formation making knight's errant hitting harder than dragon princes, however, the update to Lance Formation removed Devastating Charge from them and made them relevant but no longer endowed with insane numbers of attacks. The Lore of the Lady is made to protect their knights and help out in duels, working as a support lore. Unfortunately, you can bring the guns they had in pre-5th Edition without giving up any of the Blessing. All in all, Bretonnia after its rework is a relevant faction again without being over the top

	** They also have cheap but low Leadership Men-at-Arms. Bowmen can come out on top point for point with Elf archers so long as they can manage to fire first (otherwise, they'll generally panic and flee), and Men at Arms can make cost effective, if not particularly threatening, chaff.		** They also have cheap but low Leadership Men-at-Arms. Bowmen can come out on top point for point with Elf archers so long as they can manage to fire first (otherwise, they'll generally panic and flee), and Men at Arms can make cost effective, if not particularly threatening, chaff.

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	* Asinine addition of Clan distrust to discourage unit variety.		* Asinine addition of Clan distrust to discourage unit variety.
	* A nerfing of Slaves and Clanrats in an edition where massed infantry already got gutted.		* A nerfing of Slaves and Clanrats in an edition where massed infantry already got gutted.
	* ~~Increase~~ price of Clanrats and Stormvermin		* Increased price of Clanrats and Stormvermin.
	* Nerfing/removal of Unique magic items that made Skaven Characters Survivable ontop of the edition wide magic item restrictions.		* All your cool rare monsters are worse, which may have been needed for the Hell Pit Abomination but was harder on the Doomwheel, for example. Thankfully, your magic has types now so no more using everything without line of site and in combat, and going magic heavy is better than ever for the rats.
	* All your cool rare monsters ~~and warmachines~~ are worse. Thankfully, your magic has types now so no more using everything without line of site and in combat.

	=====[[Dwarfs]]=====		=====[[Dwarfs]]=====

24.219.145.208: /* Bretonnia */

2022-10-17T09:09:16Z

Bretonnia

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	==== The Updated Armies ====		==== The Updated Armies ====
	=====[[Bretonnia]]=====		=====[[Bretonnia]]=====
	* is borderline [[cheese\|op]] with the ~~lance formation~~ making knight's errant hitting harder than dragon princes, ~~near universal ward saves~~, ~~which can be increased~~ to ~~4+ rerolling 1's~~. ~~And a unique lore tailor~~ made to ~~make your knight charges unstoppable~~, ~~your characters undefeatable in~~ a ~~challenge and your units safe from shooting~~. ~~Oh and~~ you can bring [[guns\|firearm]] ~~while keeping~~ the ~~blessing, so much for chivalry~~.		* Was borderline [[cheese\|op]] with the Lance Formation making knight's errant hitting harder than dragon princes, however, the update to Lance Formation removed Devastating Charge from them and made them relevant but no longer endowed with insane numbers of attacks. The Lore of the Lady is made to protect their knights and help out in duels, working as a support lore. Unfortunately, you can bring the [[guns\|firearm]] they had in pre-5th Edition without giving up any of the Blessing.
	** They also have ~~some of the best shooting and under costed~~ Men-at-Arms. Bowmen can come out ~~ontop~~ point for point with Elf archers, and Men at Arms can ~~beat any human (non-chaos) core infantry point for point~~.		** They also have cheap but low Leadership Men-at-Arms. Bowmen can come out on top point for point with Elf archers so long as they can manage to fire first (otherwise, they'll generally panic and flee), and Men at Arms can make cost effective, if not particularly threatening, chaff.

	=====[[Wood Elves]]=====		=====[[Wood Elves]]=====

1d4chan>Lordfapington69: /* Skaven */

2022-08-29T16:28:03Z

Skaven

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	* Increase price of Clanrats and Stormvermin		* Increase price of Clanrats and Stormvermin
	* Nerfing/removal of Unique magic items that made Skaven Characters Survivable ontop of the edition wide magic item restrictions.		* Nerfing/removal of Unique magic items that made Skaven Characters Survivable ontop of the edition wide magic item restrictions.
	* All your cool rare monsters and warmachines are worse. ~~Of course~~, your magic has types now so no more using everything without line of site and in combat.		* All your cool rare monsters and warmachines are worse. Thankfully, your magic has types now so no more using everything without line of site and in combat.

	=====[[Dwarfs]]=====		=====[[Dwarfs]]=====

1d4chan>Stephenlucas600: /* The Updated Armies */

2022-08-24T23:51:44Z

The Updated Armies

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	** They also have some of the best shooting and under costed Men-at-Arms. Bowmen can come out ontop point for point with Elf archers, and Men at Arms can beat any human (non-chaos) core infantry point for point.		** They also have some of the best shooting and under costed Men-at-Arms. Bowmen can come out ontop point for point with Elf archers, and Men at Arms can beat any human (non-chaos) core infantry point for point.

	======[[Wood Elves]]======		=====[[Wood Elves]]=====
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	* Got arbitrarily shafted (an army he admitted to never playing) with most of the 8th edition book being ignored with odd justification such as:		* Got arbitrarily shafted (an army he admitted to never playing) with most of the 8th edition book being ignored with odd justification such as:
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	* Are somehow less knowledgeable in magic than Humans. With the eight lores being more or less split between them and Dark Elves on based on arbitrary [[alignment]].		* Are somehow less knowledgeable in magic than Humans. With the eight lores being more or less split between them and Dark Elves on based on arbitrary [[alignment]].

	======[[Skaven\| Skaven]]======		=====[[Skaven\| Skaven]]=====
	* Asinine addition of Clan distrust to discourage unit variety.		* Asinine addition of Clan distrust to discourage unit variety.
	* A nerfing of Slaves and Clanrats in an edition where massed infantry already got gutted.		* A nerfing of Slaves and Clanrats in an edition where massed infantry already got gutted.
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	* All your cool rare monsters and warmachines are worse. Of course, your magic has types now so no more using everything without line of site and in combat.		* All your cool rare monsters and warmachines are worse. Of course, your magic has types now so no more using everything without line of site and in combat.

	======[[Dwarfs]]======		=====[[Dwarfs]]=====
	* Having half their engineering runes unable to be used on cannons and organ guns for 'balance', while half the magic items in the game are broken on a lord riding a monster anyhow. If they're gonna restrict dwarfs most of the regen/ward/healing items should not be taken on dragon mounted characters.		* Having half their engineering runes unable to be used on cannons and organ guns for 'balance', while half the magic items in the game are broken on a lord riding a monster anyhow. If they're gonna restrict dwarfs most of the regen/ward/healing items should not be taken on dragon mounted characters.