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	*'''Dragon Ogre Shaggoth:''' 225pts. The big brother of the Dragon Ogres. The Shaggoth will fuck shit up. 5 attacks at WS6 S6 murders everything it runs into. Combining with either another hand weapon or a great weapon, there's nothing a Shaggoth won't murder. The obvious downside is that the Shaggoth is relatively vulnerable (T6, 4+ save and no way to regain wounds). It is the magnetic pole for shooting. Get this guy in combat fast and keep him there. Otherwise, he'll be headbutting cannonballs from turn 1. He is rather pricey, so have a plan before you field this guy. Compared to a Ghorgon, it has the armour, weapons, and weapons skill to flank elite units and clashes with monsters.		*'''Dragon Ogre Shaggoth:''' 225pts. The big brother of the Dragon Ogres. The Shaggoth will fuck shit up. 5 attacks at WS6 S6 murders everything it runs into. Combining with either another hand weapon or a great weapon, there's nothing a Shaggoth won't murder. The obvious downside is that the Shaggoth is relatively vulnerable (T6, 4+ save and no way to regain wounds). It is the magnetic pole for shooting. Get this guy in combat fast and keep him there. Otherwise, he'll be headbutting cannonballs from turn 1. He is rather pricey, so have a plan before you field this guy. Compared to a Ghorgon, it has the armour, weapons, and weapons skill to flank elite units and clashes with monsters.

	*'''[[Ghorgon]]:''' 225pts. 50pts cheaper, and ~~the only thing lost is that he only~~ gains 1W instead of ~~d3 from Swallowing an enemy whole~~. With Ld10, m7, and stubborn this unit can operate independently and should be flanking rank and file at every opportunity. If it gets into combat with high S & I models like Swordmasters, they'll take you to have the board in one combat. With Frenzy and Bloodgreed, a cunning opponent will attack it in the flank with chaff and have it running around all game.		*'''[[Ghorgon]]:''' 225pts. 50pts cheaper, and now gains an attack instead of forging all attacks to Swallow Whole (but only receives 1 W). With Ld10, m7, and stubborn this unit can operate independently and should be flanking rank and file at every opportunity. If it gets into combat with high S & I models like Swordmasters, they'll take you to have the board in one combat. With Frenzy and Bloodgreed, a cunning opponent will attack it in the flank with chaff and have it running around all game.

	*'''[[Cygor]]:''' 180pts. Unchanged from 8e, except 100pts cheaper. This is a monster that decided instead of hitting anything in close combat, it will be a stone thrower and a miscast catalyst. The 100pt drop is viable and what you'll want to be used to kill enemy warmachines, wizards, and other high-value targets.		*'''[[Cygor]]:''' 180pts. Unchanged from 8e, except 100pts cheaper. This is a monster that decided instead of hitting anything in close combat, it will be a stone thrower and a miscast catalyst. The 100pt drop is viable and what you'll want to be used to kill enemy warmachines, wizards, and other high-value targets.

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	*'''The Dark Heart: Enchanted Item''' 30pts. Adds +d3" to any charge, pretty much saving you in the fringe cases where you fall just a little short of the mark.		*'''The Dark Heart: Enchanted Item''' 30pts. Adds +d3" to any charge, pretty much saving you in the fringe cases where you fall just a little short of the mark.

	*'''Beast Banner: Magic Standard''' 60pts. A simple gives a unit units +1 Strength. Good for a unit you NEED to survive or cause casualties, especially a large Gor unit when combined with Wyssman's Wildform. Your BSB can only take it as it's 60pts.		*'''Beast Banner: Magic Standard''' 60pts. A simple gives a unit units +1 Strength. Good for a unit you NEED to survive or cause casualties, especially a large Gor unit when combined with Wyssman's Wildform. Your BSB can only take it as it's 60pts. While not quite magic items, these still give properties that combo well with them—also the only way to make your Beast Banner BSB tougher and deadlier. Near mandatory to stick Gnarled Hide and Gouge-Tusks on him to give him a chance in a challenge. Never forget that the Beast Banner increases his S too.

	===Gifts of Chaos===		===Gifts of Chaos===

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	===Gifts of Chaos===		===Gifts of Chaos===
	While not quite magic items, these still give properties that combo well with them—also the only way to make your Beast Banner BSB tougher and deadlier. Near mandatory to stick Gnarled Hide and Gouge-Tusks on him to give him a chance in a challenge. Never forget that the Beast Banner increases his S too.

	* '''Crown of Horns:''' 35pts. General only. Grants 5++ Ward Save and a side bonus of +1 to any Rally attempts for his unit (this can happen to even the best of them from time to time). Frees up a Talisman for your lord.		* '''Crown of Horns:''' 35pts. General only. Grants 5++ Ward Save and a side bonus of +1 to any Rally attempts for his unit (this can happen to even the best of them from time to time). Frees up a Talisman for your lord.

1d4chan>Stephenlucas600: /* Rare Units */

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Rare Units

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	*'''[[Dragon Ogre]]s:''' Hauled back from the WoC list. They are like Minotoarurs crossed with the speed of Centigors and a scaly wall. Also, hitting with S5 before using Great Weapons will pain any lesser unit you'll face. They're fast, too: at M7, you can slam them into your enemy's juicy units with ease. They're immune to lightning-based attacks as well. Use this to troll gun-heavy Skaven armies. Don't waste these guys on regular infantry; maul your enemy's biggest units, counter-charge knights, slay monsters, and kill anything worth a lot of points. Be careful, though. These guys are tough but not invincible.		*'''[[Dragon Ogre]]s:''' Hauled back from the WoC list. They are like Minotoarurs crossed with the speed of Centigors and a scaly wall. Also, hitting with S5 before using Great Weapons will pain any lesser unit you'll face. They're fast, too: at M7, you can slam them into your enemy's juicy units with ease. They're immune to lightning-based attacks as well. Use this to troll gun-heavy Skaven armies. Don't waste these guys on regular infantry; maul your enemy's biggest units, counter-charge knights, slay monsters, and kill anything worth a lot of points. Be careful, though. These guys are tough but not invincible.
	**in the Beastmen book, they are very similar to the Minotoarurs. Unlike Dragon Ogre, Minotoarurs can get magic banners while getting more attacks every time they win a combat round. Dragon Ogre only wins out in the toughness department, has a high Ld8 for beastmen, and calvery speeds to nudge them into the faster side of swiftstride.		**in the Beastmen book, they are very similar to the Minotoarurs. Unlike Dragon Ogre, Minotoarurs can get magic banners while getting more attacks every time they win a combat round. Dragon Ogre only wins out in the toughness department, has a high Ld8 for beastmen, and calvery speeds to nudge them into the faster side of swiftstride.
	**[[TLDNR]] Minotoarurs is more head-on in mino-buses. At the same time, Dragon Ogres operate as smaller units that are better as heavy-hitting calvery that come in on the flanks away from the center blob while also being more resilient for the points.		**[[TLDNR]] Minotoarurs is more head-on in mino-buses. At the same time, Dragon Ogres operate as smaller units that are better as heavy-hitting monstrous calvery that come in on the flanks away from the center blob while also being more resilient for the points.

	*'''Dragon Ogre Shaggoth:''' 225pts. The big brother of the Dragon Ogres. The Shaggoth will fuck shit up. 5 attacks at WS6 S6 murders everything it runs into. Combining with either another hand weapon or a great weapon, there's nothing a Shaggoth won't murder. The obvious downside is that the Shaggoth is relatively vulnerable (T6, 4+ save and no way to regain wounds). It is the magnetic pole for shooting. Get this guy in combat fast and keep him there. Otherwise, he'll be headbutting cannonballs from turn 1. He is rather pricey, so have a plan before you field this guy. Compared to a Ghorgon, it has the armour, weapons, and weapons skill to flank elite units and clashes with monsters.		*'''Dragon Ogre Shaggoth:''' 225pts. The big brother of the Dragon Ogres. The Shaggoth will fuck shit up. 5 attacks at WS6 S6 murders everything it runs into. Combining with either another hand weapon or a great weapon, there's nothing a Shaggoth won't murder. The obvious downside is that the Shaggoth is relatively vulnerable (T6, 4+ save and no way to regain wounds). It is the magnetic pole for shooting. Get this guy in combat fast and keep him there. Otherwise, he'll be headbutting cannonballs from turn 1. He is rather pricey, so have a plan before you field this guy. Compared to a Ghorgon, it has the armour, weapons, and weapons skill to flank elite units and clashes with monsters.
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	*'''[[Hag Tree]]:''' 200pts. Monster trees are now on your side. These things have randomized attacks (but d6+2 is far from terrible), it lacks any flanks or rear, and it can heal for any models it kills in close combat. It also acts as a mobile debuff aura of -1 Ld. It's slow-moving but makes more of a tough unit to hold up an enemy, so your ambushing and flanking gors mobs can crush them in combat.		*'''[[Hag Tree]]:''' 200pts. Monster trees are now on your side. These things have randomized attacks (but d6+2 is far from terrible), it lacks any flanks or rear, and it can heal for any models it kills in close combat. It also acts as a mobile debuff aura of -1 Ld. It's slow-moving but makes more of a tough unit to hold up an enemy, so your ambushing and flanking gors mobs can crush them in combat.

	*'''[[Ramhorn]]:''' ~~225pts~~. Mega Razorgors are now huge enough to be ridden by a pack of Bestigors with Great Weapons. These can be mounts for your Beastlords and Shamans. These things are much beefier with d6+2 impact hits and frenzy while affording a 4+ natural armour save and stubborn. This unit wants to smash up those shiny knights on the charge to get an OVERRUN! So to smash the unit behind it. In addition, the Extra Crew allows it to have a unit strength big enough to disrupt an enemy if they had the misfortune of getting charged by this big guy. If the impact doesn't kill the entire unit, it will have to wait through the counter-attack before it finishes its mauling.		*'''[[Ramhorn]]:''' 250pts. Mega Razorgors are now huge enough to be ridden by a pack of Bestigors with Great Weapons. These can be mounts for your Beastlords and Shamans. These things are much beefier with d6+2 impact hits and frenzy while affording a 4+ natural armour save and stubborn. This unit wants to smash up those shiny knights on the charge to get an OVERRUN! So to smash the unit behind it. In addition, the Extra Crew allows it to have a unit strength big enough to disrupt an enemy if they had the misfortune of getting charged by this big guy. If the impact doesn't kill the entire unit, it will have to wait through the counter-attack before it finishes its mauling.

	==Regiments of Renown==		==Regiments of Renown==

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	'''Mark of Chaos:''' At last (again), the beastmen can claim marks for themselves, as well as the appropriate God-Lores. As with the WoC, these marks are priced differently from Characters and units, but only Beastlords, Doombulls, Wargors, Gorebulls, Bestigors, Minotaurs, and Bray Shamans can buy a mark (Bray Shamans must take god's lore if they take a mark, Khorne's prejudice is still in effect). Your Warlord and BSB must be of the same mark, and your Marked units treat each other as Suspicors or Distrusted Allies if they have different marks. (Keep in mind that having your wizard have an opposite mark to your frontline can let you do some friendly fire shenanigans.)		'''Mark of Chaos:''' At last (again), the beastmen can claim marks for themselves, as well as the appropriate God-Lores. As with the WoC, these marks are priced differently from Characters and units, but only Beastlords, Doombulls, Wargors, Gorebulls, Bestigors, Minotaurs, and Bray Shamans can buy a mark (Bray Shamans must take god's lore if they take a mark, Khorne's prejudice is still in effect). Your Warlord and BSB must be of the same mark, and your Marked units treat each other as Suspicors or Distrusted Allies if they have different marks. (Keep in mind that having your wizard have an opposite mark to your frontline can let you do some friendly fire shenanigans.)
	*'''Mark of [[Khorne]]:''' Grants frenzy.		*'''Mark of [[Khorne]]:''' Grants frenzy.
	**It's harder to hold ~~your unit back from running at that pike line~~ but ~~gets~~ more attacks (especially if augmented by weapons, banners, and magic) and harder to chase off by Psychology attacks.		**It's harder for your unit to hold thier position by not chasing after those fleeing archers, but they get more attacks (especially if augmented by weapons, banners, and magic) and are harder to chase off by Psychology attacks.
	*'''Mark of [[Nurgle]]:''' Adds +1 to Toughness but -2 Initiative.		*'''Mark of [[Nurgle]]:''' Adds +1 to Toughness but -2 Initiative.
	**You're going to move slower than molasses, but the jump from toughness 4->5 makes you a wall		**You're going to move slower than molasses, but the jump from toughness 4->5 makes you a wall

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	**An alternative mark for tanking, giving a more evergreen ward save, and you don't lose anything.		**An alternative mark for tanking, giving a more evergreen ward save, and you don't lose anything.

	'''Beastmen Ambush''': Gone are the shitty-ass restrictions that ruined this tactic for Beastmen players! Units gain Ambush if not mounted, and now all add a +1 to all rolls to determine whether your Gors and ~~Ungors~~ arrive from reserves, which is a far better gift. Improves Ambush arrivals by +0.166%, arriving 5/6 of the time.		'''Beastmen Ambush''': Gone are the shitty-ass restrictions that ruined this tactic for Beastmen players! Units gain Ambush if not mounted, and now all add a +1 to all rolls to determine whether your Gors, Ungors, and Centigors arrive from reserves, which is a far better gift. Improves Ambush arrivals by +0.166%, arriving 5/6 of the time.

	'''Forest Strider''': Many of your models can walk through forests with no trouble.		'''Forest Strider''': Many of your models can walk through forests with no trouble.

1d4chan>Stephenlucas600: /* Magic */

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Magic

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	<tab name="Lore of the Wild">		<tab name="Lore of the Wild">
	''Attribute: Primal Onslaught:'' Casting allows any units within 6" to add a bonus die to Primal Fury rolls. This can make the waves of horns quite dangerous.		''Attribute: Primal Onslaught:'' Casting allows any units within 6" to add a bonus die to Primal Fury rolls. This can make the waves of horns quite dangerous.
	:*'''Signature: Bestial Surge (7/14):''' Allows ALL friendly units within a whopping 6" to get an additional 2-7" in movement directly towards an enemy unit. Useful if you are under threat of missile fire or you just need that little extra bump to get into charge range. Remember that Beastmen survive by being aggressive, so this can't hurt. However, compared to other lore's signature spells, this spell leaves a Beastman underwhelmed, unless you are using more than one Bray Shaman to cast it per turn, in which case it is decently useful. IF you augment it, you double the spell's range, but at 14+, you'~~re not going to be seeing~~ this a lot.		:*'''Signature: Bestial Surge (7/14):''' Allows ALL friendly units within a whopping 6" to get an additional 2-7" in movement directly towards an enemy unit. Useful if you are under threat of missile fire or you just need that little extra bump to get into charge range. Remember that Beastmen survive by being aggressive, so this can't hurt. However, compared to other lore's signature spells, this spell leaves a Beastman underwhelmed unless you are using more than one Bray Shaman to cast it per turn, in which case it is decently useful. IF you augment it, you double the spell's range, but at 14+, you won't see this a lot.
	#'''Viletide (5/8):''' An easy to casy 24" magic missile that hits an enemy for 5D6 S1 hits. Great for hunting warmachines, as a S1 hit is still a hit on a 6+, horrible for everything above T2 (Read: practically everything else). For anything else, you want ''Flock of Doom'' from Beasts instead (5+ 2D6 S2 and boostable to 48" range).		#'''Viletide (5/8):''' An easy to casy 24" magic missile that hits an enemy for 5D6 S1 hits. Great for hunting warmachines, as a S1 hit is still a hit on a 6+, horrible for everything above T2 (Read: practically everything else). For anything else, you want ''Flock of Doom'' from Beasts instead (5+ 2D6 S2 and boostable to 48" range).
	#'''Devolve (8/16):''' You know the Jabberslythe's ''Aura of Madness''? This is the spell version of that. All enemies within 12" take a Ld test, if they fail, the unit takes wounds equal to the number failed by. Combos nicely with Doom and Darkness from Lore of Death. Don't plan on using this around any generals or BSB since they'll have the IP to bust your groove.		#'''Devolve (8/16):''' You know the Jabberslythe's ''Aura of Madness''? This is the spell version of that. All enemies within 12" take a Ld test, if they fail, the unit takes wounds equal to the number failed by. Combos nicely with Doom and Darkness from Lore of Death. Don't plan on using this around any generals or BSB since they'll have the IP to bust your groove.
	#'''Bray-Scream (8/13):''' The third spell gives the caster an S4 breath weapon (S5 if Agmented). Use on Malagor after flying into a flank to turn those large hordes into mincemeat, or use it on a character in close combat.		#'''Bray-Scream (8/13):''' The third spell gives the caster an S4 breath weapon (S5 if Agmented). Use on Malagor after flying into a flank to turn those large hordes into mincemeat, or use it on a character in close combat.
	#'''Traitor-Kin (10+):''' All enemy ~~cav~~ within 12" ~~(basically, anyone on a mount or chariot) gets~~ attacked by their own mount at its strength and attacks ('''KILL THE STAR DRAGON RIDER!''') while ignoring anything offered by the beast. Engage trollface when playing Bretonnia or up against a monster happy army (monsters with handlers on it like ~~Sphinx's~~ and Araknaroks attack themselves)... otherwise, sit down and wonder why you didn't take Lore of Beasts.		#'''Traitor-Kin (10+):''' All enemy mounted units and Mixed beast units within 12" get attacked by their own mount/beasts at its strength and attacks ('''KILL THE STAR DRAGON RIDER!''') while ignoring anything offered by the beast. Engage trollface when playing Bretonnia or up against a monster-happy army (monsters with handlers on it like Hydras, Sphinxs, and Araknaroks attack themselves)... otherwise, sit down and wonder why you didn't take Lore of Beasts.
	#'''Mantle Of Ghorok (10+):''' One friendly character within 6" gains +D6 S and A.... but takes a wound for rolling any 6s for those characteristics. It's useful for making that Doombull into the unholy rape train he was always meant to be without paying for magical weapons, but if you're packing a quite a few strength/attack boosting weapons (aka what every weapon in the beastmen armory does) then you can safely skip it. You could use it on your caster if you get stuck in combat- takes him from S4 and A2 to possibly S10 and A8 (although at that point he's deader than dead)		#'''Mantle Of Ghorok (10+):''' One friendly character within 6" gains +D6 S and A.... but takes a wound for rolling any 6s for those characteristics. It's useful for making that Doombull into the unholy rape train he was always meant to be without paying for magical weapons, but if you're packing a quite a few strength/attack boosting weapons (aka what every weapon in the beastmen armory does) then you can safely skip it. You could use it on your caster if you get stuck in combat- takes him from S4 and A2 to possibly S10 and A8 (although at that point he's deader than dead)
	#'''Savage Dominion (15+):''' This spell has awesome potential, it lets you summon one Giant, Ghorgon, or Jabberslythe (your choice). Sounds good so far... but any wound suffered by your beastie means that the caster has to make a T test for ''each wound took'', and a failed test means taking a non-savable wound; that's not too terrible. Especially considering the only characters that can take this are T5. Removing that asinine restriction that forces the caster not to attack or cast, this spell becomes preferable if you grab it.		#'''Savage Dominion (15+):''' This spell has awesome potential, it lets you summon one Giant, Ghorgon, or Jabberslythe (your choice). Sounds good so far... but any wound suffered by your beastie means that the caster has to make a T test for ''each wound took'', and a failed test means taking a non-savable wound; that's not too terrible. Especially considering the only characters that can take this are T5. Removing that asinine restriction that forces the caster not to attack or cast, this spell becomes preferable if you grab it.

1d4chan>Stephenlucas600: /* Core Units */

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	As you may notice, except for the chariot, the core is filled with lots of chaff with varying power levels of killing. Want to take in numbers, fill out the combat lines, or place blobs into ambush or vanguard to tie up a unit early in the game.		As you may notice, except for the chariot, the core is filled with lots of chaff with varying power levels of killing. Want to take in numbers, fill out the combat lines, or place blobs into ambush or vanguard to tie up a unit early in the game.

	*'''[[Gors]]:''' A tribes primary warriors. Still toughness 4 infantry. 1pt costlier ~~but include~~ shields~~, can swap for~~ AHW ~~for free~~. Just like 8e, take the AHW. Although ~~the~~ shields ~~now give 5+ armour against~~ missile fire in the front arc. Take them in hordes ~~and~~ buff them with Lore of Beasts (preferable) or debuff their enemies with Lore of Shadow or Nurgle. Throw in leaders in the form of heroes and lords to try and bolster that weak LD - you'll need it, so you don't lose a huge block due to a flubbed round of combat.		*'''[[Gors]]:''' A tribes primary warriors. Still toughness 4 infantry. 1pt costlier for that mandatory shields or AHW. Just like 8e, take the AHW if used as disposable DPS. Although combined with Skirmishers, Light armor and new shields rules make Gors suprisingling resistant to missile fire in the front arc. Take them in hordes, buff them with Lore of Beasts (preferable), or debuff their enemies with Lore of Shadow or Nurgle. Throw in leaders in the form of heroes and lords to try and bolster that weak LD - you'll need it so you don't lose a huge block due to a flubbed round of combat.

	*'''[[Ungors]]:''' a tribe’s primary cannon fodder. 1pt cheaper than 8e for 4ppm makes them an easier pill to swallow. Half the price of Gors and a third the price of Bestigors with an armour upgrade. Take in small units to redirect and march block. Cheapest bunker for a Shaman. Also, one of the more durable due to shields.		*'''[[Ungors]]:''' a tribe’s primary cannon fodder. 1pt cheaper than 8e for 4ppm makes them an easier pill to swallow. Half the price of Gors and a third the price of Bestigors with an armour upgrade. Take in small units to redirect and march block. Cheapest bunker for a Shaman. Also, one of the more durable due to shields.