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	*'''[[Kritza]]:''' 135pts. the Rat Prince. [[skaven\|not those ones]]. The only unique thing about him from a normal vampire thug is being so hard to kill and running from death with full wounds again.		*'''[[Kritza]]:''' 135pts. the Rat Prince. [[skaven\|not those ones]]. The only unique thing about him from a normal vampire thug is being so hard to kill and running from death with full wounds again.

			*'''[[Ivya Volga]]:''' 120pts. by lore she is a monster hunter though her talents are not getting malled, rather than having a way to deal with high toughness and wounds characteristics. Followed by a B2B Flock of Doom and -1WS and a -1 to monster Attacks. All this reveals that her real talent is not getting hit and mowing low armor chaff.

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	*'''Blood Dragon Fighter:''' no arguing that they are the best default vampire fighters. Already with heavy armor and buy a shield and other Mondaine weapons if you don't need magic items.		*'''Blood Dragon Fighter:''' no arguing that they are the best default vampire fighters. Already with heavy armor and buy a shield and other Mondaine weapons if you don't need magic items.

	*'''Strigoi:''' Although they can't take weapons ~~and armour~~ with ~~the~~ only their T5/4 and Curse of the Revenant power or a talisman for protection, they are cheaper fighters and have the lore of beasts and deployment tricks with the crypt ghouls like an ambush. They have hatred so good at hitting.		*'''Strigoi:''' Although they can't take weapons with only their Natural Armour (6+), T6/5, and Curse of the Revenant power, generic armour, or a talisman for protection, they are cheaper fighters and have the lore of beasts and deployment tricks with the crypt ghouls like an ambush. They have hatred and are so good at hitting.
	**'''Strigoi In the face:''' ~~take~~ him with Hunter in the Dark, Ghoulkin or on Terrorgheist, and other combat powers. now have a Super beast turn one in enemy's potential flank (can's charge first turn with scout so needs to be placed in cover).		**'''Strigoi In the face:''' Take him with Hunter in the Dark, Ghoulkin or on Terrorgheist, and other combat powers. now have a Super beast turn one in the enemy's potential flank (can's charge first turn with scout so needs to be placed in cover).

	*'''Lahmian Shadow dualist:''' Although Blood Dragons specialize in melee and armour, Lahmias ~~are~~ a better caster/dualist hybrid. Should take additional hand weapon, light armour, and Poisoned Attacks upgrades for duals. They have several powers that help with killing and not killed by heroes, Innocence Lost(ASF, and rolling hits because ~~your~~ faster), Lightning Reflexes and Quickblood is your defense.		*'''Lahmian Shadow dualist:''' Although Blood Dragons specialize in melee and armour, Lahmias is a better caster/dualist hybrid. Should take additional hand weapon, light armour, and Poisoned Attacks upgrades for duals. They have several powers that help with killing and not killed by heroes, Innocence Lost(ASF, and rolling hits because you're faster), Lightning Reflexes, and Quickblood is your defense.
	**Transfix could make heroes sitting ducks, but need a bad roll.		**Transfix could make heroes sitting ducks but need a bad roll.
	**~~for~~ magic items consider something to boost your strength past a mere 5 and/or more attacks. ~~add~~ Glittering scales or Nightshroud and you have a hard to kill duelist and caster.		**For magic items, consider something to boost your strength past a mere 5 and/or more attacks. Add Glittering scales or Nightshroud, and you have a hard-to-kill duelist and caster.

	*'''Lahmian siege engine:''' Lahmians are no joke on a Coven Throne, Ton of attacks and lots of protection, and a bound spell that for our purposes lets her reroll wounds. Stacking more things: Poisoned Attacks, Nightshroud, Innocence Lost, Lore of Shadows. It will run you 515pts with 40 left for other gear.		*'''Lahmian siege engine:''' Lahmians are no joke on a Coven Throne, Ton of attacks and lots of protection, and a bound spell that for our purposes lets her reroll wounds. Stacking more things: Poisoned Attacks, Nightshroud, Innocence Lost, Lore of Shadows. It will run you 515pts with 40 left for other gear.
	**Your enemy will have to overcome T5 4+/4++, ASL, pass a contested roll or may not hit, ~~rerolling wounds~~, and be stripped of all their strength bonuses.		**Your enemy will have to overcome T5 4+/4++, ASL, pass a contested roll or may not hit, -1 to wound rolls, and be stripped of all their strength bonuses.
	**On your side your extra slippery with Shadows giving you 12" movement with every cast and debuffing enemies more. Mountains of attacks ~~ontop~~ of Rerolling hits from ASF, Rerolling and +1 to wound, plus other gear.		**On your side, your extra slippery with Shadows giving you 12" movement with every cast and debuffing enemies more. Mountains of attacks on top of Rerolling hits from ASF, Rerolling, and +1 to wound, plus other gear.

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	**for mounts, unless your list needs a zombie dragon, keeping it down to a Hellstead, Barded Nighmare, or the Flying Horror power is enough.		**for mounts, unless your list needs a zombie dragon, keeping it down to a Hellstead, Barded Nighmare, or the Flying Horror power is enough.

	*'''Blood Dragon Fighter:''' no arguing that they are the best default vampire fighters. ~~already~~ with ~~Full plate~~ and buy a shield and other Mondaine weapons if you don't need magic items.		*'''Blood Dragon Fighter:''' no arguing that they are the best default vampire fighters. Already with heavy armor and buy a shield and other Mondaine weapons if you don't need magic items.

	*'''Strigoi:''' Although they can't take weapons and armour with the only their T5/4 and Curse of the Revenant power or a talisman for protection, they are cheaper fighters and have the lore of beasts and deployment tricks with the crypt ghouls like an ambush. They have hatred so good at hitting.		*'''Strigoi:''' Although they can't take weapons and armour with the only their T5/4 and Curse of the Revenant power or a talisman for protection, they are cheaper fighters and have the lore of beasts and deployment tricks with the crypt ghouls like an ambush. They have hatred so good at hitting.

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	*'''[[Isabella von Carstein]]:''' As it stands for 110pts, she's not a caster (being only a level 1 Wizard in Lore of Vampires) or a fighter (being that she only has the vanilla Vampire stats with Beguile and her only equipment is Heavy Armor and a Hand Weapon). The most she can do is support other vampires using the Blood Chalice to make sure they don't die.		*'''[[Isabella von Carstein]]:''' As it stands for 110pts, she's not a caster (being only a level 1 Wizard in Lore of Vampires) or a fighter (being that she only has the vanilla Vampire stats with Beguile and her only equipment is Heavy Armor and a Hand Weapon). The most she can do is support other vampires using the Blood Chalice to make sure they don't die.
	**Of course, there's always the fact that if she kicks it, Vlad goes nuts, with Frenzy and Hatred and whatnot. It's also possible that he'll die first (not as likely), and she will get Frenzy and Hatred, but as previously mentioned, she's not geared for fighting. She isn't worth it on her own but put her with Vlad, and they have great potential.		**Of course, there's always the fact that if she kicks it, Vlad goes nuts, with Frenzy and Hatred and whatnot. It's also possible that he'll die first (not as likely), and she will get Frenzy and Hatred, but as previously mentioned, she's not geared for fighting. She isn't worth it on her own, but put her with Vlad, and they have great potential.

			*'''[[Cado Ezechiar]]:''' 160 pts. A vampire on a quest for vengeance against chaos. A lv 1 Death wizard with a unique magic missile/augment that deals extra damage to chaos or a weaker Invocation of Nehek. His ring summons a ghost of a past ally once per turn to aid him for a different phase, Steed lets him move like a horse, Tutor is better magic, and Fallen gives KB and MW.
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	===Special Units===		===Special Units===
	*'''[[Grave Guard]]:''' Coming in at 10 points, these supercharged Skeleton Warriors boast medium armour and can be upgraded to heavy armour and Shields for a point each.Offensivly, they can get Great Weapons or Polearms for 2pts. With killing blow and S4 tanking them up with shields and heavy armour and relying on killingblow and flankers to cause damage is probably the right move. They are a lot more resilient and killy than Skeletons and just as easy to raise, be sure they're in range for Invocation of Nehek. Stuff a Wight King into this unit and take them in a block for a hard-hitting anvil force. These skellies are a nightmare for any high T non-monstrous troops. Finnally, ~~dont~~ forget their juice 50pt magic standard allowance(bring Banner of the Barrows).		*'''[[Grave Guard]]:''' Coming in at 10 points, these supercharged Skeleton Warriors boast medium armour and can be upgraded to heavy armour and Shields for a point each.Offensivly, they can get Great Weapons or Polearms for 2pts. With killing blow and S4 tanking them up with shields and heavy armour and relying on killingblow and flankers to cause damage is probably the right move. They are a lot more resilient and killy than Skeletons and just as easy to raise, be sure they're in range for Invocation of Nehek. Stuff a Wight King into this unit and take them in a block for a hard-hitting anvil force. These skellies are a nightmare for any high T non-monstrous troops. Finnally, don't forget their juice 50pt magic standard allowance(bring Banner of the Barrows).

	*'''[[Black Knights]]:''' Another unit that got some love, with free lances and edition wide impact hits this will bring the pain. Though, you're paying one point more at 22pts. Same stats as Grave Guard, with the option for barding and heavy armour for 2pts each. Can absolutely butcher anything they hit in the flank. Being cavalry, they only regain 1+Wizard Level wounds from Invocation of Nehek.		*'''[[Black Knights]]:''' Another unit that got some love, with free lances and edition wide impact hits this will bring the pain. Though, you're paying one point more at 22pts. Same stats as Grave Guard, with the option for barding and heavy armour for 2pts each. Can absolutely butcher anything they hit in the flank. Being cavalry, they only regain 1+Wizard Level wounds from Invocation of Nehek.

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	*'''Summon Creatures of the Night:''' 10pts. If you plan on using Dire Wolves, Bat Swarms, and Fell Bats then this is good as those are expensive options point-wise, so increasing their numbers past starting size with Invocation of Nehek is a good choice.		*'''Summon Creatures of the Night:''' 10pts. If you plan on using Dire Wolves, Bat Swarms, and Fell Bats then this is good as those are expensive options point-wise, so increasing their numbers past starting size with Invocation of Nehek is a good choice.
	*'''Wolf Form:''' 10pts. Have a need to make a footslogging vampire but hate M4? Buy this and now they're faster than even ponies with M9 and Swiftsrtride!		*'''Wolf Form:''' 10pts. Have a need to make a footslogging vampire but hate M4? Buy this and now they're faster than even ponies with M9 and Swiftsrtride!
	*'''Wolf Lord:''' 10pts. Dire Wolves within 24" can now march ~~or flee from a charge~~.		*'''Wolf Lord:''' 10pts. Dire Wolves within 24" can now march.
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	*'''[[Dire Wolves]]:''' A very fast-moving alternative to the other core choices. The Dogs ring in at 6 points per model, with a cavalry-speed Movement of 9 (compared to the M4 of the rest of the core) and Swiftstride. They have similar Toughness, meaning they'll crumble as fast as Skeleton Warriors in unfavorable conflicts. They have one point higher WS and I, so combat will have more kills but otherwise share a stat line with Skeleton Warriors. They have the Slavering Charge (+1S on the charge) and Vanguard (after both armies deploy everything, but before the first turn, they may move 12").		*'''[[Dire Wolves]]:''' A very fast-moving alternative to the other core choices. The Dogs ring in at 6 points per model, with a cavalry-speed Movement of 9 (compared to the M4 of the rest of the core) and Swiftstride. They have similar Toughness, meaning they'll crumble as fast as Skeleton Warriors in unfavorable conflicts. They have one point higher WS and I, so combat will have more kills but otherwise share a stat line with Skeleton Warriors. They have the Slavering Charge (+1S on the charge) and Vanguard (after both armies deploy everything, but before the first turn, they may move 12").

	*'''[[Fell Bats]]:''' Your go-to for Warmachine hunting. Cost 14 points each and must be fielded in Units of 2 or more. Count as War Beasts, meaning they have Fly and Swiftstride (roll 3d6 when charging, discard lowest, add 12" to the Move, and do the same when fleeing). Its stats are like two humans sharing a pair of wings (likely to crumble), which is pretty meh. Still, with multiple models and Fly, they'll probably reach what war machines they need to get to unless your opponent spends some time shooting them, which will buy you time to get into melee, so either way, it's a win/win.		*'''[[Fell Bats]]:''' Your go-to for Warmachine hunting. Cost 12 points each and must be fielded in Units of 2 or more. Count as War Beasts, meaning they have Fly and Swiftstride (roll 3d6 when charging, discard lowest, add 12" to the Move, and do the same when fleeing). Its stats are like two humans sharing a pair of wings (likely to crumble), which is pretty meh. Still, with multiple models and Fly, they'll probably reach what war machines they need to get to unless your opponent spends some time shooting them, which will buy you time to get into melee, so either way, it's a win/win.

	*'''[[Bat swarms]]:''' 35 points each, but they have 6 Wounds and 6 Attacks. They are a Swarm: meaning they are Skirmishers, plus Unbreakable and Unstable (like the rest of your army). They have WS3, S2, T2, and I4, coupled with being Unstable, most likely will be the first thing to crumble after Zombies. Their Hover and Cloud of Horror disrupt all enemies they flank, which is awesome considering most of your army has terrible Initiative.		*'''[[Bat swarms]]:''' 35 points each, but they have 6 Wounds and 6 Attacks. They are a Swarm: meaning they are Skirmishers, plus Unbreakable and Unstable (like the rest of your army). They have WS3, S2, T2, and I4, coupled with being Unstable, most likely will be the first thing to crumble after Zombies. Their Hover and Cloud of Horror disrupt all enemies they flank, which is awesome considering most of your army has terrible Initiative.

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	'''''Armour'''''		'''''Armour'''''
	*'''Helm of Commandment:''' 25pts. If not in combat, one undead unit within 12" can use your WS. So, remember how Tomb Kings can let an attached unit share their WS? You can now do that AND share it with a unit you're not having them babysit!		*'''Helm of Commandment:''' 25pts. If not in combat, one undead unit within 12" can use your WS. So, remember how Tomb Kings can let an attached unit share their WS? You can now do that AND share it with a unit you're not having them babysit!
	*'''Armour of Night:''' 25pts. Models on foot only. This heavy ~~plate~~ inficts a -2 to hit to missiles that target you or your unit, which you'll need since you lack any good mobility.		*'''Armour of Night:''' 25pts. Models on foot only. This heavy armour inficts a -2 to hit to missiles that target you or your unit, which you'll need since you lack any good mobility.
	*'''The Cursed Shield of Mousillon:''' 10pts. Blood Dragon only. This shield takes one attack from one model in base contact. However, all Bretonnians have Hatred against you.		*'''The Cursed Shield of Mousillon:''' 10pts. Blood Dragon only. This shield takes one attack from one model in base contact. However, all Bretonnians have Hatred against you.
	*'''Wailing Helm:''' 25pts. This helm grants Terror, which can help when you're unable to grab it with powers.		*'''Wailing Helm:''' 25pts. This helm grants Terror, which can help when you're unable to grab it with powers.
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	'''''Enchanted Items'''''		'''''Enchanted Items'''''
	*'''The Casket of Ages:'''25pts. This One use. PL3 Bound Spell that inflicts an armour ignoring wound one enemy in base contact and then forces it to make a toughness check or die. a decent way to quickly kill a humanoid ~~chactacter~~.		*'''The Casket of Ages:'''25pts. This One use. PL3 Bound Spell that inflicts an armour-ignoring wound one enemy in base contact and then forces it to make a toughness check or die. A decent way to quickly kill a humanoid character.
	*'''Talon of Death:''' 35pts. This item deals an S5 hit to all enemy models in base contact at the beginning of the combat phase, making it a potential deterrent to combat.		*'''Talon of Death:''' 35pts. This item deals an S5 hit to all enemy models in base contact at the beginning of the combat phase, making it a potential deterrent to combat.
	*'''Talisman of the Lycni:''' 10pts. Vampires on foot only. The Vamps gain +4" to their movement and Swiftstride, which can be quite the gift if you know how to position them.		*'''Talisman of the Lycni:''' 10pts. Vampires on foot only. The Vamps gain +4" to their movement and Swiftstride, which can be quite the gift if you know how to position them.

	'''''Magic Standards'''''		'''''Magic Standards'''''
	*'''The Drakenhof Banner:''' 75pts. Very useful for an skelly bunker, this grants the attached undead unit with 4+ regen.		*'''The Drakenhof Banner:''' 75pts. Very useful for a skelly bunker, this grants the attached undead unit with 4+ regen.
	*'''Hell Banner:''' 40pts. This forces anyone within sight that isn't Immune to Psychology to take -1 to Leadership, which can compound with Fear and the like.		*'''Hell Banner:''' 40pts. This forces anyone within sight that isn't Immune to Psychology to take -1 to Leadership, which can compound with Fear and the like.
	*'''Banner of Doom:''' 25pts. This flag grants a 5+ regen against missiles, which is okay, boosted by the fact that it applies to anyone - including those units without Undead.		*'''Banner of Doom:''' 25pts. This flag grants a 5+ regen against missiles, which is okay, boosted by the fact that it applies to anyone - including those units without Undead.
	*'''Banner of the Dead Legion:''' 25pts. Using this banner makes your unit of undead count as double its unit strength in melee.		*'''Banner of the Dead Legion:''' 25pts. Using this banner makes your unit of undead count as double its unit strength in melee.
	*'''Banner of the Endless Nightmare:''' 15pts. This banner makes your unit count as having one more rank in regards ~~for~~ Combat Resolution (To a max Rank Bonus of +4), though it's meaningless unless you have a rank of 5+ models.		*'''Banner of the Endless Nightmare:''' 15pts. This banner makes your unit count as having one more rank in regards to Combat Resolution (To a max Rank Bonus of +4), though it's meaningless unless you have a rank of 5+ models.
	*'''Icon of Vengeance:''' 10pts. The unit with this flag will never suffer Instability if all your necromancers die, which is pretty keen if you're relying on some Black Knights and don't have your any Necromancy casters there.		*'''Icon of Vengeance:''' 10pts. The unit with this flag will never suffer Instability if all your necromancers die, which is pretty keen if you're relying on some Black Knights and don't have your any Necromancy casters there.
	*'''Cursed Pennant of Mousillon:''' 25pts. When in base contact with a unit using this banner, the enemy unit must re-roll any 6s they roll to hit, wound, or on any armor saves. Sadly, it does nothing for Wards or Regen.		*'''Cursed Pennant of Mousillon:''' 25pts. When in base contact with a unit using this banner, the enemy unit must re-roll any 6s they roll to hit, wound, or on any armor saves. Sadly, it does nothing for Wards or Regen.