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	* Characters have to pay for bows, and Wizards lost the option to even buy them.		* Characters have to pay for bows, and Wizards lost the option to even buy them.
	* Eternal Guard lost a point of leadership and Armor piercing but are no cheaper. Didn't even get the invite to the medium armor club like the other spear elves.		* Eternal Guard lost a point of leadership and Armor piercing but are no cheaper. Didn't even get the invite to the medium armor club like the other spear elves.
	* Magic Armour changes make it impossible for your characters to have an armour save better than 4+. You can't even access Lore of Metal to get ~~glitter~~ robes.		* Magic Armour changes make it impossible for your characters to have an armour save better than 4+. You can't even access Lore of Metal to get glittering robes.
	* Your magical lore selection got slashed in half. Losing Dark, High, Fire, Metal, and Death.		* Your magical lore selection got slashed in half. Losing Dark, High, Fire, Metal, and Death.
	* Lost armour pierce on spears.		* Lost armour pierce on spears.

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Spites of Athel Loren

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	===Spites of Athel Loren===		===Spites of Athel Loren===
	Yep, they've returned. These let tree-people tack on special rules in place of a magic item allowance. ~~Elve~~ characters can also buy one with their allowance.		Yep, they've returned. These let tree-people tack on special rules in place of a magic item allowance. Elven characters can also buy one with their allowance.

	*'''A Blight of Terrors:''' 25pts. Terror for your trees and elves since they usually lack it.		*'''A Blight of Terrors:''' 25pts. Terror for your trees and elves since they usually lack it.
	*'''A Cluster of Radiants:''' 25pts. Branchwraiths and Treeman Ancients Only. Adds a bonus dispel die to the dispel pool.		*'''A Cluster of Radiants:''' 25pts. Branchwraiths and Treeman Ancients Only. Adds a bonus dispel die to the dispel pool.
	*'''An Annoyance of Netlings:''' 20pts. -1 to hit the bearer for only 20 points? That's a deal.		*'''An Annoyance of Netlings:''' 20pts. -1 to hit the bearer for only 20 points? That's a deal.
	*'''A Muster of Malevolents:''' 15pts. Gives d6 poisoned magical S2 Shooting attacks with Quick to Fire. Pretty much gives the ~~Treepeaple~~ their form of quick shooting.		*'''A Muster of Malevolents:''' 15pts. Gives d6 poisoned magical S2 Shooting attacks with Quick to Fire. Pretty much gives the Treepeople their form of quick shooting.
	*'''A Pageant of Shrikes:''' 15pts. Gives an S4 magical shooting attack with sniper and slow to fire. What you'll be using to kill mages.		*'''A Pageant of Shrikes:''' 15pts. Gives an S4 magical shooting attack with sniper and slow to fire. What you'll be using to kill mages.
	*'''A Befuddlement of Mischiefs:''' 15pts. A bound PL3 Magic Missile that lets you force a unit make a stupidity on a 3d6. It can be ok, less so if it's on a unit with high leadership. Definitely not fun for many wizards.		*'''A Befuddlement of Mischiefs:''' 15pts. A bound PL3 Magic Missile that lets you force a unit make a stupidity on a 3d6. It can be ok, less so if it's on a unit with high leadership. Definitely not fun for many wizards.
	*'''A Lamentation of Despairs:''' 15pts. A bound PL3 Direct Damage that forces monsters or characters to test Ld or eat d3 save-ignoring hits. The former tends to have poor Leadership, so save it for them.		*'''A Lamentation of Despairs:''' 15pts. A bound PL3 Direct Damage that forces monsters or characters to test Ld or eat d3 save-ignoring hits. The former tends to have poor Leadership, so save it for them.
	*'''A Resplendence of Luminescents:''' 10 points for Magical Attacks? Really? Mathias dropped the ball when updating the Forest Spirit rule. Currently a pointless point sink.		*'''A Resplendence of Luminescents:''' 10 points for Magical Attacks? Really? Mathias dropped the ball when updating the Forest Spirit rule. Currently a pointless point sink.
	*'''A Murder of Spites:''' 10pts. Adds d6 poisoned magical melee S2 attacks, which might be handy for whittling away wounds.		*'''A Murder of Spites:''' 10pts. Adds d6 poisoned magical melee S2 attacks, which might be handy for whittling away wounds.

	===Heirlooms of Athel Loren===		===Heirlooms of Athel Loren===

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Enchanted Arrows

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	*'''Starfire Shafts:''' Enemies that test for panic because of these arrows are forced to re-roll a successful check. Works best if your targets don't have much armor or toughness like Goblins or small skirmish units.		*'''Starfire Shafts:''' Enemies that test for panic because of these arrows are forced to re-roll a successful check. Works best if your targets don't have much armor or toughness like Goblins or small skirmish units.
	*'''Swiftshiver Shards:''' These are for massed fire units. They'll allow you to fire multiple shots when on the move, then Asrai Archery turns this into only a -1 to hit. You won't mind shooting 2 arrows each that hit on a 4+.		*'''Swiftshiver Shards:''' These are for massed fire units. They'll allow you to fire multiple shots when on the move, then Asrai Archery turns this into only a -1 to hit. You won't mind shooting 2 arrows each that hit on a 4+.
	*'''Trueflight Arrows:''' Similar to the tomb kings, Your arrows ignore all Ballistic modifiers that were not the product of magic items or spells. Your walls, ~~loss~~ formations, and camouflage are meaningless now.		*'''Trueflight Arrows:''' Similar to the tomb kings, Your arrows ignore all Ballistic modifiers that were not the product of magic items or spells. Your walls, lose formations, and camouflage are meaningless now.

	===Spites of Athel Loren===		===Spites of Athel Loren===

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Cons

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	===Cons===		===Cons===
	* ~~You~~ glass cannon ~~units~~ Close-Combat units lost their cannon properties and are even more glass-like. This army is now the stereotypical [[elf\|shooty pansy elves.]]		* Your glass cannon Close-Combat units lost their cannon properties and are even more glass-like. This army is now the stereotypical [[elf\|shooty pansy elves.]]
	* Characters have to pay for bows, and Wizards lost the option to even buy them.		* Characters have to pay for bows, and Wizards lost the option to even buy them.
	* Eternal Guard lost a point of leadership and Armor piercing but are no cheaper. Didn't even get the invite to the medium armor club like the other spear elves.		* Eternal Guard lost a point of leadership and Armor piercing but are no cheaper. Didn't even get the invite to the medium armor club like the other spear elves.

1d4chan>Stephenlucas600: /* Special Characters */

2023-02-28T15:14:09Z

Special Characters

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	**'''Drycha Hamadreth:''' 340pts. Jumping from Hero to Lord, Drycha in her [[Dreadknight]] TREEMONSTER form, returns and surpass the melee monster she used to be now with a base of '''6 Attacks and 5 wounds'''. In addition, her body is also swarming with spites that can be used in both melee and shooting. Both are poisoned with 2d6 S1 attacks (and the shooting spites suffer no penalty for moving and shooting), but at the start of each turn, you can upgrade one mode of them to dealing 3d6 bites.		**'''Drycha Hamadreth:''' 340pts. Jumping from Hero to Lord, Drycha in her [[Dreadknight]] TREEMONSTER form, returns and surpass the melee monster she used to be now with a base of '''6 Attacks and 5 wounds'''. In addition, her body is also swarming with spites that can be used in both melee and shooting. Both are poisoned with 2d6 S1 attacks (and the shooting spites suffer no penalty for moving and shooting), but at the start of each turn, you can upgrade one mode of them to dealing 3d6 bites.

	*'''Naestra & Arahan, [[Sisters of Twilight]]:''' 275/495pts. You don't take them to win, you take them to troll. For 275 points, you get the pair on the back of Gwindalor the Great Eagle and ~~for~~ a few 220 more can have them ride the forest dragon Ceithin-Har. Why you ever would take them on a dragon is a mystery since the eagle allows them to re-roll failed to hits, and the dragon can only charge if they pass Leadership (Not a big issue, but inconvenient when it triggers). Their Dragon is 80pts cheaper than the glade lord's since Gwindalor is clearly 80pts. The Conjoined Destiny rule means they will stay around full health as long as the enemy doesn't finish the job. In melee, the sisters are identical Glade Captains, with Naestra gaining a +1 to wound forces of destruction while Arahan has it against forces of order. They also have 2 special bows. Naestra has a str 5 d6 wound longbow which gives her mount a wound back if she wounds with it, and Arahan has a bow that fires 2d6 str 2 Ap(1) poisoned shots. Between them, they have good shooting and survival thanks to their previous rules and weapons. However, these compete badly with the waystalker, lvl 1 spellsinger, and BSB in the Heroes section, so choose wisely. Pity you can't take these gals on foot though...		*'''[[The Lady of Vines]]:''' 340 pts. Aos import. a Monstrous Forest Spirit lord that wants other spirits around her protection to get into the thick of a fight. A lv 2 wizard with a unique spell that gives a 12" a 6+ ward aura to Spirits, the option to give her unit +1 to hit or make them -1 to hit, a MW(D3) Spear/javelin, and a 6" aura of soft cover for Forest Spirit. Pairs up with Treekin and Sylvan Hunters.

			*'''Naestra & Arahan, [[Sisters of Twilight]]:''' 275/495pts. You don't take them to win, you take them to troll. For 275 points, you get the pair on the back of Gwindalor the Great Eagle, and a few 220 more can have them ride the forest dragon Ceithin-Har. Why you ever would take them on a dragon is a mystery since the eagle allows them to re-roll failed to hits, and the dragon can only charge if they pass Leadership (Not a big issue, but inconvenient when it triggers). Their Dragon is 80pts cheaper than the glade lord's since Gwindalor is clearly 80pts. The Conjoined Destiny rule means they will stay around full health as long as the enemy doesn't finish the job. In melee, the sisters are identical Glade Captains, with Naestra gaining a +1 to wound forces of destruction while Arahan has it against forces of order. They also have 2 special bows. Naestra has a str 5 d6 wound longbow which gives her mount a wound back if she wounds with it, and Arahan has a bow that fires 2d6 str 2 Ap(1) poisoned shots. Between them, they have good shooting and survival thanks to their previous rules and weapons. However, these compete badly with the waystalker, lvl 1 spellsinger, and BSB in the Heroes section, so choose wisely. Pity you can't take these gals on foot though...

	*'''[[Naieth]] the Prophetess:''' 155pts. High Seer of Athel Loren. She's a Spellsinger with a free power dies each magic phase. Her other trick is an owl that sits upon any standard bearer (but can't stay on them for longer than a turn) and lets the unit re-roll 1s to hit with missiles. While Ariel is just jam-packed with things to do, Naieth is purely a support hero, so do keep her out of combat.		*'''[[Naieth]] the Prophetess:''' 155pts. High Seer of Athel Loren. She's a Spellsinger with a free power dies each magic phase. Her other trick is an owl that sits upon any standard bearer (but can't stay on them for longer than a turn) and lets the unit re-roll 1s to hit with missiles. While Ariel is just jam-packed with things to do, Naieth is purely a support hero, so do keep her out of combat.

1d4chan>Stephenlucas600: /* Special Characters */

2023-02-28T15:02:42Z

Special Characters

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	*'''[[Durthu\|Durthu Oakheart]]:''' 320pts. Everyone's favorite racist tree is back with some serious reworks. While maintaining his Ancient statline and casting, his weapons are all changed. For starters, he has d6 additional S2 attacks that can give a slight penalty to hit him in melee while also weakening their armour enough for him to mock anything that crosses him. While still a hand weapon, his sword lets him re-roll to hit every turn with perpetual hatred while making his frenzy endless. As always, Wyssan's Wildform or Savage Beast of Horros (yes, re-read the lore: ''Horros'') is all you need from him.		*'''[[Durthu\|Durthu Oakheart]]:''' 320pts. Everyone's favorite racist tree is back with some serious reworks. While maintaining his Ancient statline and casting, his weapons are all changed. For starters, he has d6 additional S2 attacks that can give a slight penalty to hit him in melee while also weakening their armour enough for him to mock anything that crosses him. While still a hand weapon, his sword lets him re-roll to hit every turn with perpetual hatred while making his frenzy endless. As always, Wyssan's Wildform or Savage Beast of Horros (yes, re-read the lore: ''Horros'') is all you need from him.

	*'''[[Drycha]]:''' 200pts. She became way more fragile this time around. Since she's now docked to only TWO WOUNDS with Fanatical Resolve only granting her +1 attack for losing a wound, she's going to be way less likely to fight without a pack of dryads or treekin by her side, Dryad Aspects or not. Fortunately, her lores have changed to be able to use Life or Athel Loren, letting her at least recover if need be. Her Selling point now is her ability to have Forest Spirit units ambush out of forests with the addition of the Newer tree-people and the ability to move forest terrain.		*'''[[Drycha]]:''' 200pts. She became way more fragile this time around. Since she's now docked to only TWO WOUNDS with Fanatical Resolve only granting her +1 attack for losing a wound, she's going to be way less likely to fight without a pack of dryads or treekin by her side, Dryad Aspects or not. Fortunately, her lores have changed to be able to use Life or Athel Loren, letting her at least recover if need be. Her Selling point now is her ability to have Forest Spirit units ambush out of forests with the addition of the Newer tree people and the ability to move forest terrain.
	**'''Drycha Hamadreth:''' 340pts. Jumping from Hero to Lord, Drycha in her [[Dreadknight]] TREEMONSTER form, returns and surpass the melee monster she used to be now with a base of '''6 Attacks and 5 wounds'''. In addition, her body is also swarming with spites that can be used in both melee and shooting. Both are poisoned with 2d6 S1 attacks (and the shooting spites suffer no penalty for moving and shooting), but at the start of each turn you can ~~elect to~~ upgrade one mode of them to dealing 3d6 bites.		**'''Drycha Hamadreth:''' 340pts. Jumping from Hero to Lord, Drycha in her [[Dreadknight]] TREEMONSTER form, returns and surpass the melee monster she used to be now with a base of '''6 Attacks and 5 wounds'''. In addition, her body is also swarming with spites that can be used in both melee and shooting. Both are poisoned with 2d6 S1 attacks (and the shooting spites suffer no penalty for moving and shooting), but at the start of each turn, you can upgrade one mode of them to dealing 3d6 bites.

	*'''Naestra & Arahan, [[Sisters of Twilight]]:''' 275/495pts. You don't take them to win, you take them to troll. For 275 points you get the pair on the back of Gwindalor the Great Eagle and for a few 220 more can have them ride the forest dragon Ceithin-Har. Why you ever would take them on a dragon is a mystery since the eagle allows them to re-roll failed to hits and the dragon can only charge if they pass Leadership (Not a big issue, but inconvenient when it triggers). Their Dragon is 80pts cheaper than the glade lord's since Gwindalor is clearly 80pts. The Conjoined Destiny rule means they will stay around full health as long as the enemy doesn't finish the job. In melee, the sisters are identical Glade Captains with Naestra ~~gain~~ a +1 to wound forces of destruction while Arahan has it against forces of order. They also have 2 special bows. Naestra has a str 5 d6 wound longbow which gives her mount a wound back if she wounds with it and Arahan has a bow that fires 2d6 str 2 Ap(1) poisoned shots. Between them ~~have~~, they have good shooting and survival thanks to their previous rules and weapons. ~~These~~ compete badly with the waystalker, lvl 1 spellsinger, and BSB in the Heroes section ~~though~~ so ~~chose~~ wisely. Pity you can't take these gals on foot though...		*'''Naestra & Arahan, [[Sisters of Twilight]]:''' 275/495pts. You don't take them to win, you take them to troll. For 275 points, you get the pair on the back of Gwindalor the Great Eagle and for a few 220 more can have them ride the forest dragon Ceithin-Har. Why you ever would take them on a dragon is a mystery since the eagle allows them to re-roll failed to hits, and the dragon can only charge if they pass Leadership (Not a big issue, but inconvenient when it triggers). Their Dragon is 80pts cheaper than the glade lord's since Gwindalor is clearly 80pts. The Conjoined Destiny rule means they will stay around full health as long as the enemy doesn't finish the job. In melee, the sisters are identical Glade Captains, with Naestra gaining a +1 to wound forces of destruction while Arahan has it against forces of order. They also have 2 special bows. Naestra has a str 5 d6 wound longbow which gives her mount a wound back if she wounds with it, and Arahan has a bow that fires 2d6 str 2 Ap(1) poisoned shots. Between them, they have good shooting and survival thanks to their previous rules and weapons. However, these compete badly with the waystalker, lvl 1 spellsinger, and BSB in the Heroes section, so choose wisely. Pity you can't take these gals on foot though...

	*'''[[Naieth]] the Prophetess:''' 155pts. High Seer of Athel Loren. She's a Spellsinger with a free power dies each magic phase. Her other trick is an owl that sits upon any standard bearer (but can't stay on them for longer than a turn) and lets the unit re-roll 1s to hit with missiles. While Ariel is just jam-packed with things to do, Naieth is purely a support hero, so do keep her out of combat.		*'''[[Naieth]] the Prophetess:''' 155pts. High Seer of Athel Loren. She's a Spellsinger with a free power dies each magic phase. Her other trick is an owl that sits upon any standard bearer (but can't stay on them for longer than a turn) and lets the unit re-roll 1s to hit with missiles. While Ariel is just jam-packed with things to do, Naieth is purely a support hero, so do keep her out of combat.
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	*'''[[Gruarth the Beastmaster]]:''' 75pts. In case you needed more support for alters, you get a named hero for them. He's joined by a pair of wolves who can move away from him if you want (though they're always within 12" of Gruarth). Gruarth himself has light armour that becomes medium armour when shot by missiles and has a pair of bolas with Piercing 1, Multishot (2), and Sniper that he can use to trap an enemy from escaping from the puppers or to rip the wizard from a meddlesome bodyguard unit.		*'''[[Gruarth the Beastmaster]]:''' 75pts. In case you needed more support for alters, you get a named hero for them. He's joined by a pair of wolves who can move away from him if you want (though they're always within 12" of Gruarth). Gruarth himself has light armour that becomes medium armour when shot by missiles and has a pair of bolas with Piercing 1, Multishot (2), and Sniper that he can use to trap an enemy from escaping from the puppers or to rip the wizard from a meddlesome bodyguard unit.

	*'''[[Sceolan]], Lord of the Hooked Blade:''' 185pts. Glade Lord that can hang out with Deepwood Scouts, gives a core unit ambush, has The Bow of Loren, and buckler that let him counter-attack.		*'''[[Sceolan]], Lord of the Hooked Blade:''' 185pts. Glade Lord that can hang out with Deepwood Scouts gives a core unit ambush and has The Bow of Loren and buckler that let him counter-attack.

	*'''[[Wychwethyl The Wild]]:''' ~~125pts~~. An extra aggressive Shadowdancer, able to attack models not in base contact (which will infuriate Skaven to no end) and can slash up one big front rank ~~instead~~ of his normal ~~number of attacks once per game~~. His most useful function is his Drum which gives his unit swiftride on the charge.		*'''[[Wychwethyl The Wild]]:''' 135pts. An extra aggressive Shadowdancer, able to attack models not in base contact (which will infuriate Skaven to no end) and can slash up one big front rank as on of his normal Shadow Dances. His most useful function is his Drum which gives his unit swiftride on the charge.

	*'''[[Aethis The Wanderer]]:''' 165pts. Is a Shadowdancer with +2 to his WS and S ~~thanks to his magical swords~~. He can drop it down the bonus to +1 instead to lower an enemy model's attack by 1 for the turn.		*'''[[Aethis The Wanderer]]:''' 165pts. Thanks to his magical swords, he is a Shadowdancer with +2 to his WS and S. He can drop down the bonus to +1 instead to lower an enemy model's attack by 1 for the turn.

	====Generic Characters====		====Generic Characters====

1d4chan>Stephenlucas600: /* Cons */

2023-02-26T20:33:46Z

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	===Cons===		===Cons===
	* You glass cannon units Close-Combat units lost their cannon properties, and are even more glass like. This army is now the stereotypical [[elf\|shooty pansy elves.]]		* You glass cannon units Close-Combat units lost their cannon properties and are even more glass-like. This army is now the stereotypical [[elf\|shooty pansy elves.]]
	* Characters have to pay for bows and Wizards lost the option to even buy them.		* Characters have to pay for bows, and Wizards lost the option to even buy them.
	* Eternal Guard lost a point of leadership and Armor piercing but are no cheaper. Didn't even get the invite to the medium armor club like the other spear elves.		* Eternal Guard lost a point of leadership and Armor piercing but are no cheaper. Didn't even get the invite to the medium armor club like the other spear elves.
	* Magic Armour changes ~~makes~~ it impossible for your characters to have an armour save better than 4+. You ~~don~~'t even ~~have~~ access to Lore of Metal to get glitter robes.		* Magic Armour changes make it impossible for your characters to have an armour save better than 4+. You can't even access Lore of Metal to get glitter robes.
	* Your magical lore selection got slashed in half. Losing Dark, High, Fire, Metal, and Death.		* Your magical lore selection got slashed in half. Losing Dark, High, Fire, Metal, and Death.
	* Lost armour pierce on spears.		* Lost armour pierce on spears.
	* Your elves no longer gain Murderess and Martial Prowess in ~~forest~~. [[Derp\|In fact, most don't gain a damn thing in forest.]]		* Your elves no longer gain Murderess and Martial Prowess in forests. [[Derp\|In fact, most don't gain a damn thing in forest.]]
	* Almost all of ~~you~~ melee units got worse in Melee. Wild Rider's mounts don't have frenzy, Eternal Guard lost armour pierce and Dryads lost Toughness.		* Almost all of your melee units got worse in Melee. Wild Rider's mounts don't have frenzy, Eternal Guard lost armour pierce and Dryads lost Toughness.
	* Warhawks went from being the best unit in the book (and probably top 5 in ~~the~~ edition) to unit you should leave on the shelf.		* Warhawks went from being the best unit in the book (and probably top 5 in 8th edition) to unit you should leave on the shelf.

	==Special rules==		==Special rules==

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Cons

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	* Lost armour pierce on spears.		* Lost armour pierce on spears.
	* Your elves no longer gain Murderess and Martial Prowess in forest. [[Derp\|In fact, most don't gain a damn thing in forest.]]		* Your elves no longer gain Murderess and Martial Prowess in forest. [[Derp\|In fact, most don't gain a damn thing in forest.]]
	* Almost all of you melee units got worse in Melee. Wild Rider's mounts ~~dont~~ have frenzy, Eternal Guard lost armour pierce and Dryads lost Toughness.		* Almost all of you melee units got worse in Melee. Wild Rider's mounts don't have frenzy, Eternal Guard lost armour pierce and Dryads lost Toughness.
	* Warhawks went from being the best unit in the book (and probably top 5 in the edition) to unit you should leave on the shelf.		* Warhawks went from being the best unit in the book (and probably top 5 in the edition) to unit you should leave on the shelf.