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	Iterative successes converge towards our inevitable victory, bitches.		Iterative successes converge towards our inevitable victory, bitches.
	~~==Tier Lists==~~



	~~'''Aurora'''~~
	*''Maiden of Gears'' (FoW): If you're running Aurora, you are running her with a bunch of clockwork angels. This list gives some nice bonuses to said clockwork angels, and allows you to buy two extra units of them. It also gives a bunch of bonuses to Steelsoul Protectors such as advanced deployment and the possibility to field more of them, which help guard Aurora's otherwise squishy clockwork flock. The tier 4 of this list requires two or more heavy vectors. Although this doesn't seem to synergize well with Aurora's otherwise fast, assassination-oriented playstyle, convergence players should almost always be using some heavy vectors anyway, and the tier bonus for this level gives them advanced <s>deployment</s> move to help them work better with your angels.

	~~'''Axis'''~~
	*''Sustained Attack'' (FoW): There are two reasons that you take this theme list and some of the extreme restrictions it applies (limited warjack selection, minimal shooting even by the low standards of an Axis list, and not even a single way to get Flare support): one, you get to bring 4 Enigma Foundries for 8 points, ergo you get to return up to 12 infantry models a turn. Two, your clockwork vessel infantry units get AD. This is probably the ur-jam list for Convergence, as 4 full units of Obstructors/Reductors (flavor to taste) and 4 Enigma Foundries sets you back only 32 points for 40 bodies that can replace a little over a full unit a turn in ideal circumstances. Needless to say, this is a skew list: you will roll over a lot of lists that simply aren't prepared to handle that many infantry in one place, but be wary of mass infantry kill or lists with high defense that can walk through most of your infantry with minimal fear for their lives (e.g. any Khador list with Iron Flesh).

	~~'''Directrix'''~~
	''Carrier Group'' (FoW): This theme exists in case anyone wanted to know what it was like to run a swarm of bees into battle. If you follow this to tier 4, then all servitors go to FA4 which could amount to FA44types*3per group=48 servitors (for 28 f'ing points!!!)and your two prime axioms will spawn 6 more of your choice turn 1 and one more every turn after that...that is silly. (Don't take max servitors). This theme isn't bad though if you take a bunch of bombs and elim servitors along with double axiom. Your bots take out infantry and axioms to lay the hurt on literally everything else...arc noding through the axioms every chance you get. You will lose the servitors very quickly but hopefully not before you take out all of their infantry that can kill the axioms...with those out of the way the axioms can clean up everything else (in theory). A hilarious, although not necessarily practical, way to run this list is to take max elimination servitors. Then drag in an opponent's warjack with the Axiom, cast Backlash on it, and put 10+ damage on the opponent's warcaster with puncture.

	~~'''Lucant'''~~
	*''Iron Giants'' (FoW): As the name implies, this tier list is about taking a wall of steel, and plastering your opponent against it. There is also an alpha-strike theme, apparently, as the list gives you +1 to your roll to start the game at tier 1 and gives a unit Advance Deployment at tier 2. Other than that, you get more, cheaper heavy vectors, and you are limited to basically anything with a medium or large base. Not the best tier list, but not the worst either.

	~~'''Syntherion'''~~
	*''The Great Machine'' (FoW): The CoC version of the Mortenebra or Absylonia tier list, where you're working under restrictions that don't matter too much because you mostly get to take what you wanted to take anyways. The benefits are correspondingly modest, but nice to have: tiers 2 and 3 are probably the most important, as they allow you to put all your friendly-target upkeeps out on round one while still being able to allocate focus to your battlegroup, and free focus on your Corollary means that you have a bit more flexibility early game because getting it fueled up isn't a priority. The tier 4 bonus (free Galvanizer) isn't something to build your list around, but free is free.


	~~[[Category: Warmachine Tactics]]~~

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Our Warjacks are Different

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	Iterative successes converge towards our inevitable victory, bitches.		Iterative successes converge towards our inevitable victory, bitches.
	~~==Our Warjacks are Different==~~

	~~Because the rules for Convergence vectors (warjacks) are so important to how the overall army functions, it's worth briefly discussing the differences:~~

	*'''The Interface Node''': The cortex equivalent for vectors, because the Convergence doesn't believe in building machines with an artificial intelligence. Basically a cortex for all intents and purposes (if it's crippled, you can't allocate focus to the vector), but any rules that specify the cortex specifically (e.g. Domination, the auto-cortex damage on the Lancer's shock shield) don't apply to the interface node. Spells and abilities that specify the cortex aren't overly common (relegated to Cygnar, mostly), but it's worth keeping in mind so that you can tell that eHaley player to screw off when she tries to Dominate your Cipher.

	:Additionally your warcasters can reactivate vectors within 6 inches without having to be in base contact and vectors cannot form bonds (since they don't have cortexes), but this probably won't come into play much unless you play a lot of multi-warcaster games or your group makes heavy use of the warjack bonding rules.
	*'''MAT and RAT scores''': Unlike other warjacks, vectors do not have innate MAT or RAT scores, instead using their controlling warcaster's current MAT/RAT values. Vectors are also immune to any abilities that increase or reduce MAT/RAT unless their warcaster is affected, which means that a vector ignores things like the MAT penalty from Gorman's Black Oil bomb (although the other effects will still apply). Anything that adds or subtracts from an attack roll still works normally, however, since it's not directly affecting the vector's MAT/RAT score.

	:With the current stable of warcasters, this rule is something of a mixed blessing: with the exception of Syntherion (who has the most well-rounded attack scores at 6/5) every warcaster in the Convergence has either a below average MAT (Directrix) or RAT (Aurora somewhat, Lucant and Axis particularly). The low average RAT scores is particularly painful given the number of vectors that have ranged weapons: while you can use Flare support to compensate somewhat, trying to make heavy use of non-Cipher or Diffuser shooty vectors with someone like Axis and his asstastic RAT 2 will probably be a fool's errand. This in turn will heavily affect the rest of your army's composition, as the value of certain models and units will vary considerably from warcaster to warcaster based on their ability to cover areas that a vector may not be able to adequately handle.
	<blockquote>Be VERY careful with your warcaster. if someone manages to land a MAT or RAT penalty on your warcaster it will effect all of your Vectors, conversely you just need to buff your warcaster to buff all your Vectors board wide. This will be a massive efficiency boost to all buffing and nerfing spells, for you and for your enemy if you allow it.</blockquote>
	*'''Focus Induction''': The ability that makes this faction tick. Once per turn when a vector spends focus, it may allocate a focus to another vector within 6 inches: a vector can receive multiple focus points this way, although it can't exceed normal allocation limits.

	:Unique to Convergence, this gives vectors a degree of focus efficiency that is not present anywhere else in Warmachine, because the efficiency of a point of focus '''increases''' when there are more vectors that it can be passed around to (as opposed to normal Warmachine factions, where too many warjacks will otherwise strain a warcaster's focus without some sort of mitigating spell or ability). You'll run into diminishing returns if you take too many focus-hungry vectors (e.g. ones that are going to spend 2-3 focus per turn, but who can only pass along one due to the induction rules), but you still get more effective focus to work with regardless.

	:Because of how induction rules work, you're generally not going to want to fully load down one vector with 3 focus during your main allocation, as is typical with most Warmachine factions: instead you'll probably want to spread the focus around to vectors with lower overall focus consumption, activate them first and then pass along the focus to the vector you want loaded for bear. This will allow you to do more with less focus, but requires you to plan out your turn farther in advance than you might have to with other factions to make sure that the focus points are where you need them when you need them. Take this into consideration when building your lists: vectors who are going to sit back and plink with their guns can probably get away with one or two focus a turn and will probably be the start of your induction chain, while melee vectors who are going to be smashing heavy targets will need all the focus you can give.

	==Unit Analysis==		==Unit Analysis==

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Why Play Convergence?

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	~~==Why Play Convergence?==~~

	Fluff-wise: it's a religion full of scientists, engineers, and steampunk [[Neckbeard\|neckbeards]] who transfer their souls into clockwork bodies and talk to their science moon goddess through the inconsistencies in the output of a giant calculating machine. They're also working to prepare the world as a vessel for her to inhabit, regardless of the desires of all those Philistines who don't think turning Caen into a giant sterile clockwork utopia is totally awesome.

	Crunch-wise: the Convergence can play a 'jack heavy game on par with the Protectorate. Between unique rules, plentiful access to Repair and/or Bodge as well as a support solo or two many Convergence warcasters can build perfectly viable 'jack heavy lists. Supporting your 'jacks are a variety of troops who have all the advantages of being non-living models without the taint of [[Warmachine/Tactics/Cryx\|ridiculous bullshit]], who are in turn supported by solos who can bring back destroyed warrior models over and over to really piss your opponent off. Also <strike>markerlights</strike> flares.

	Much like their fluff this is very much an army where the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. Each gear may not be particularly outstanding on its own and your order of activations will be very important, but when things go [[just as planned]] your Rube Goldberg army will grind your opponent's army into clockwork kibble between their teeth. Basically, if the statement "Warmachine is just Magic: the Gathering with models" doesn't send you screaming out of the room, you'll probably find something to like in the Convergence.


	==Our Warjacks are Different==		==Our Warjacks are Different==

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	:With the current stable of warcasters, this rule is something of a mixed blessing: with the exception of Syntherion (who has the most well-rounded attack scores at 6/5) every warcaster in the Convergence has either a below average MAT (Directrix) or RAT (Aurora somewhat, Lucant and Axis particularly). The low average RAT scores is particularly painful given the number of vectors that have ranged weapons: while you can use Flare support to compensate somewhat, trying to make heavy use of non-Cipher or Diffuser shooty vectors with someone like Axis and his asstastic RAT 2 will probably be a fool's errand. This in turn will heavily affect the rest of your army's composition, as the value of certain models and units will vary considerably from warcaster to warcaster based on their ability to cover areas that a vector may not be able to adequately handle.		:With the current stable of warcasters, this rule is something of a mixed blessing: with the exception of Syntherion (who has the most well-rounded attack scores at 6/5) every warcaster in the Convergence has either a below average MAT (Directrix) or RAT (Aurora somewhat, Lucant and Axis particularly). The low average RAT scores is particularly painful given the number of vectors that have ranged weapons: while you can use Flare support to compensate somewhat, trying to make heavy use of non-Cipher or Diffuser shooty vectors with someone like Axis and his asstastic RAT 2 will probably be a fool's errand. This in turn will heavily affect the rest of your army's composition, as the value of certain models and units will vary considerably from warcaster to warcaster based on their ability to cover areas that a vector may not be able to adequately handle.
	<blockquote>Be VERY careful with your warcaster. if someone manages to land a MAT or RAT penalty on your warcaster it will effect all of your Vectors, conversely you just need to buff your warcaster to buff all your Vectors board wide. This will be a massive efficiency boost to all buffing and nerfing spells, for you and for your enemy if you allow it.</blockquote>		<blockquote>Be VERY careful with your warcaster. if someone manages to land a MAT or RAT penalty on your warcaster it will effect all of your Vectors, conversely you just need to buff your warcaster to buff all your Vectors board wide. This will be a massive efficiency boost to all buffing and nerfing spells, for you and for your enemy if you allow it.</blockquote>
	*'''Focus Induction''': ~~the big~~ ability that ~~gives vectors their spice~~. Once per turn when a vector spends focus, it may allocate a focus to another vector within 6 inches: a vector can receive multiple focus points this way, although it can't exceed normal allocation limits.		*'''Focus Induction''': The ability that makes this faction tick. Once per turn when a vector spends focus, it may allocate a focus to another vector within 6 inches: a vector can receive multiple focus points this way, although it can't exceed normal allocation limits.

	:Unique to Convergence, this gives vectors a degree of focus efficiency that is not present anywhere else in Warmachine, because the efficiency of a point of focus '''increases''' when there are more vectors that it can be passed around to (as opposed to normal Warmachine factions, where too many warjacks will otherwise strain a warcaster's focus without some sort of mitigating spell or ability). You'll run into diminishing returns if you take too many focus-hungry vectors (e.g. ones that are going to spend 2-3 focus per turn, but who can only pass along one due to the induction rules), but you still get more effective focus to work with regardless.		:Unique to Convergence, this gives vectors a degree of focus efficiency that is not present anywhere else in Warmachine, because the efficiency of a point of focus '''increases''' when there are more vectors that it can be passed around to (as opposed to normal Warmachine factions, where too many warjacks will otherwise strain a warcaster's focus without some sort of mitigating spell or ability). You'll run into diminishing returns if you take too many focus-hungry vectors (e.g. ones that are going to spend 2-3 focus per turn, but who can only pass along one due to the induction rules), but you still get more effective focus to work with regardless.

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	===Battle Engines===		===Battle Engines===
	*'''Transfinite Emergence Projector:''' ~~Well...~~ What can be said about a tower that sprays down lazors on your opponent? It has a spray attack that can be altered depending on the position of the ~~balls~~ that it spawns every turn. The 3 spawning balls can be placed in the right, left, or back arcs and can increase the number of dice for damage, number of dice for attack, or number of attacks, respectively. Short and skinny of this means that you start with 2 dice to hit, 2 dice to damage, and 2 autofire attacks. You can increase any of those by 1 for each bot you put in the respective arc....which means you can go after high def targets, high ARM targets, or a ton of targets (that are close together).		*'''Transfinite Emergence Projector:''' What can be said about a tower that sprays down lazors on your opponent? It has a spray attack that can be altered depending on the position of the servs that it spawns every turn. The 3 spawning balls can be placed in the right, left, or back arcs and can increase the number of dice for damage, number of dice for attack, or number of attacks, respectively. Short and skinny of this means that you start with 2 dice to hit, 2 dice to damage, and 2 autofire attacks. You can increase any of those by 1 for each bot you put in the respective arc....which means you can go after high def targets, high ARM targets, or a ton of targets (that are close together).
	The balls can also take the hit if your opponent decides to shoot at it. This means your opponent must shoot at you a minimum of 4 times before he hopes to touch you and this thing has high ARM and a good amount of health so shooting will require a ton of effort. It IS vulnerable to melee attacks. It doesn't synergise all that well with most of the casters (Iron mother has her ~~balls~~ that can make it hurt more) but does it really need to synergise with anything, it is a threat all on its own.		The balls can also take the hit if your opponent decides to shoot at it. This means your opponent must shoot at you a minimum of 4 times before he hopes to touch you and this thing has high ARM and a good amount of health so shooting will require a ton of effort. It IS vulnerable to melee attacks. It doesn't synergise all that well with most of the casters (Iron mother has her servitors that can make it hurt more) but does it really need to synergise with anything, it is a threat all on its own.

	==Tier Lists==		==Tier Lists==