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	===Battle Engines===		===Battle Engines===
	*'''Arcantrik Force Generator:''' A delightful support model. Each shot from ~~it's~~ teleforce cannon gets a special attack type. Blasted Earth puts down a decent AOE which is rough terrain for a round, Destructor raises the power of the attack, and momentum slams models away or knocks them down if large. Dual shot lets you fire twice if you don't move, and Range Booster gives nearby models an increase to range. Blasted Earth paired with dual shot lets you drop rough terrain in two spots, and the range booster is useful with any ranged unit, which the elves have plenty of.		*'''Arcantrik Force Generator:''' A delightful support model. Each shot from its teleforce cannon gets a special attack type. Blasted Earth puts down a decent AOE which is rough terrain for a round, Destructor raises the power of the attack, and momentum slams models away or knocks them down if large. Dual shot lets you fire twice if you don't move, and Range Booster gives nearby models an increase to range. Blasted Earth paired with dual shot lets you drop rough terrain in two spots, and the range booster is useful with any ranged unit, which the elves have plenty of.

	===Units===		===Units===

1d4chan>MagisterCrow: /* Unit Analysis */

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Unit Analysis

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	*'''Ravyn, Eternal Light:''' Ravyn is a strange bird. Her Feat emphasizes ranged attacking, but her spells and weapon emphasize her melee abilities. Snipe complements almost every ranged model in the Retribution very well, from Mage Hunter Strike Force to the Phoenix's cannon. Veil of Mists lets you pop through terrain and attack enemies, or obscure your troops and protect them from charges and ranged attacks. Eliminator's a decent spell, if you have an Arc Node, and Vortex of Destruction is absolutely cruel if you're leading a melee charge. Vortex of Destruction works especially well with the many Weapon Master and Flanking models that the Retribution gets, but it also applies to ranged attacks at the target in Ravyn's melee range.		*'''Ravyn, Eternal Light:''' Ravyn is a strange bird. Her Feat emphasizes ranged attacking, but her spells and weapon emphasize her melee abilities. Snipe complements almost every ranged model in the Retribution very well, from Mage Hunter Strike Force to the Phoenix's cannon. Veil of Mists lets you pop through terrain and attack enemies, or obscure your troops and protect them from charges and ranged attacks. Eliminator's a decent spell, if you have an Arc Node, and Vortex of Destruction is absolutely cruel if you're leading a melee charge. Vortex of Destruction works especially well with the many Weapon Master and Flanking models that the Retribution gets, but it also applies to ranged attacks at the target in Ravyn's melee range.

	:Ravyn is a ~~relatively simple character~~ to ~~grasp~~, ~~compared~~ to her ~~peers~~. She ~~encourages her list to function at range through use~~ of ~~Veil of Mists~~, Snipe, and ~~her~~ Feat~~, and~~ once ~~the enemy closes she switches to melee mode with Eliminator~~, ~~Vortex of Destruction, and her combination of Virtuoso plus Quick Work and Thresher to give her~~ a ~~very large amount of melee attacks~~. ~~Run~~ her ~~with a Phoenix and~~ some ~~Mage Hunter Strike Force~~ and ~~she won't disappoint you~~.		:Ravyn has some issues with where to put her focus, both the stat and in a gameplay sense. She’s kitted out to be a very powerful anti-infantry caster, but most of her spells want her to be support and her feat is kitted for ranged combat. She also just doesn’t have the staying power you want from a frontline warcaster. The result is a bit of a confused warcaster, but one that can still work. Snipe is still a monster of a spell, and while Snipe+Feat=Go is not the game ended it once was, you can still have a dangerous feat turn. Give her some invictors and consider marshaling a ‘jack or two.

	*'''Dawnlord Vyros:''' Vyros1 is the opposite of all the other casters in the Retribution's core book. While every other warcaster is firmly about turning their army towards some kind of strategic gimmick (heavy offense, anti-magic, battlefield manipulation, ranged attacks), Vyros1 is entirely defensive. Rather than repurposing the army for his own needs, he supplements whatever units you pick. He can give them additional armor and make them Fearless, he can increase their speed and give them Pathfinder, he can allow them to ignore clouds and forests and other models for Line of Sight purposes, he makes their front arc 360 degrees (which is a pretty solid and fairly unique advantage), and he has decent offensive capabilities besides all that. With Vyros, you have the closest to a 'traditional' army list, in that you will need to pick a balanced set of offense and defense, melee and ranged, sprinkled with some support, in order for your army to be effective. He doesn't give you extra options or dramatically change the way that your units interact with each other or the enemy: instead, he subtly makes your units better. They become faster, more resilient, and more synergistic. He allows you to field whatever parts of the Retribution you want, and he will make them work together.		*'''Dawnlord Vyros:''' Vyros1 is the opposite of all the other casters in the Retribution's core book. While every other warcaster is firmly about turning their army towards some kind of strategic gimmick (heavy offense, anti-magic, battlefield manipulation, ranged attacks), Vyros1 is entirely defensive. Rather than repurposing the army for his own needs, he supplements whatever units you pick. He can give them additional armor and make them Fearless, he can increase their speed and give them Pathfinder, he can allow them to ignore clouds and forests and other models for Line of Sight purposes, he makes their front arc 360 degrees (which is a pretty solid and fairly unique advantage), and he has decent offensive capabilities besides all that. With Vyros, you have the closest to a 'traditional' army list, in that you will need to pick a balanced set of offense and defense, melee and ranged, sprinkled with some support, in order for your army to be effective. He doesn't give you extra options or dramatically change the way that your units interact with each other or the enemy: instead, he subtly makes your units better. They become faster, more resilient, and more synergistic. He allows you to field whatever parts of the Retribution you want, and he will make them work together.

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	*'''Griffon:''' Take two if you're taking any. Great for Jack Marshals, relatively durable, and they do good damage on the charge. Try to avoid dropping Focus into them if at all possible: but do keep in mind that even one Griffon in a group of infantry will drastically increase the survival rate of the little guys. Even though the Griffon is considered a cheap and fragile jack, just one of them can still take more punishment than an entire unit of Dawnguard Sentinels and still be a threat.		*'''Griffon:''' Take two if you're taking any. Great for Jack Marshals, relatively durable, and they do good damage on the charge. Try to avoid dropping Focus into them if at all possible: but do keep in mind that even one Griffon in a group of infantry will drastically increase the survival rate of the little guys. Even though the Griffon is considered a cheap and fragile jack, just one of them can still take more punishment than an entire unit of Dawnguard Sentinels and still be a threat.
	*'''Siren''': A light Vyre warjack, but in terms of role, think of it as a “medium” warjack. The Siren hits relatively hard for a light ‘jack, and further has blessed and magic weapons to ensure that it hits hard. It has an ability to spend focus to not suffer a damage roll from an attack, which makes it able to negate that one big hit, but requires you camp focus. It’s only once a turn, so never camp more than one. It’s gun is a moderately powerful and decent ranged attack that can take over a model it boxes. Overall, the Siren makes for a good mid range combat ‘jack.		*'''Siren''': A light Vyre warjack, but in terms of role, think of it as a “medium” warjack. The Siren hits relatively hard for a light ‘jack, and further has blessed and magic weapons to ensure that it hits hard. It has an ability to spend focus to not suffer a damage roll from an attack, which makes it able to negate that one big hit, but requires you camp focus. It’s only once a turn, so never camp more than one. It’s gun is a moderately powerful and decent ranged attack that can take over a model it boxes. Overall, the Siren makes for a good mid range combat ‘jack.
			*'''Harpy''': This...is an odd model. It has the same pillowy fists you expect from retribution, but also flies. It has a lighter ARM, but actually decent MAT and RAT. It’s gun, the wind flayed, is decent range and POW that fires twice and pushes back. Relatively cheap with some OK support, but don’t expect it to rake in kills.
	=====Character Light Myrmidons=====		=====Character Light Myrmidons=====
	*'''Moros:''' Moros is Garryth's personal 'jack...and it shows. On it's own, it has Pathfinder and Stealth and can spend focus to get faster. It's ranged weapon basically makes it's target unable to do much and drops its defense to a set 5. When paired with Garryth, it gains acrobatics, making it able to charge right over friendly lines.		*'''Moros:''' Moros is Garryth's personal 'jack...and it shows. On it's own, it has Pathfinder and Stealth and can spend focus to get faster. It's ranged weapon basically makes it's target unable to do much and drops its defense to a set 5. When paired with Garryth, it gains acrobatics, making it able to charge right over friendly lines.

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	*'''Daemon:''' You might be forgiven for thinking this is a melee 'jack, what with the blessed fists and decent MAT. But the gun is the main point of this 'jack, and it's a doozy. Basically, once you hit with it, it pushes everything nearby toward the target, then drops a decent POW AoE template on top of it. It's a potent way to clear out infantry and, failing that, pull things out of position.		*'''Daemon:''' You might be forgiven for thinking this is a melee 'jack, what with the blessed fists and decent MAT. But the gun is the main point of this 'jack, and it's a doozy. Basically, once you hit with it, it pushes everything nearby toward the target, then drops a decent POW AoE template on top of it. It's a potent way to clear out infantry and, failing that, pull things out of position.

	*'''Harpy''': This...is an odd model. It has the same pillowy fists you expect from retribution, but also flies. It has a lighter ARM, but actually decent MAT and RAT. It’s gun, the wind flayed, is decent range and POW that fires twice and pushes back. Relatively cheap with some OK support, but don’t expect it to rake in kills.

	*'''Sphinx:''' This 'jack is a bit more of a rounded kit, but has, unsurprisingly, a neat trick with its gun. Mk. 3 updated the gun so that it now causes anything hit by it to suffer from Arcane Attraction. Basically, this makes spells used against the target gain range, which can pair well with spell focused warcasters like Rahn and Ossyan.		*'''Sphinx:''' This 'jack is a bit more of a rounded kit, but has, unsurprisingly, a neat trick with its gun. Mk. 3 updated the gun so that it now causes anything hit by it to suffer from Arcane Attraction. Basically, this makes spells used against the target gain range, which can pair well with spell focused warcasters like Rahn and Ossyan.
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	*'''Discordia:''' Despite being Rahn's personal 'jack, Discordia sees a lot of play with others. For reasons only PP knows, it got a huge buff in Mk. 3. The main draw of this 'jack is the gun. Long range, high POW spray. For a long time, it was the Retribution's most reliable method to deal with stealth. Now, it's just as nasty, but also makes models damaged unable to cast spells. Discordia can also spend a focus to gain bonuses to armor against ranged attacks and ignore blast damage, granting these bonuses to nearby models as well. In melee, if it hits with both it's initial attacks, it can can models away from it. Oh, and now when bonded to Rahn...it never suffers from crippled systems. After all that, it's cost went down in Mk 3, so have fun fielding this lovely piece of destruction.		*'''Discordia:''' Despite being Rahn's personal 'jack, Discordia sees a lot of play with others. For reasons only PP knows, it got a huge buff in Mk. 3. The main draw of this 'jack is the gun. Long range, high POW spray. For a long time, it was the Retribution's most reliable method to deal with stealth. Now, it's just as nasty, but also makes models damaged unable to cast spells. Discordia can also spend a focus to gain bonuses to armor against ranged attacks and ignore blast damage, granting these bonuses to nearby models as well. In melee, if it hits with both it's initial attacks, it can can models away from it. Oh, and now when bonded to Rahn...it never suffers from crippled systems. After all that, it's cost went down in Mk 3, so have fun fielding this lovely piece of destruction.

			*'''Hemera''': Meet Issyria’s personal ‘jack, and oh boy is it built for her. It has stats on par with other Shyeel heavies, and packs not only an arc node, but an arc node that reduces the cost of spells cast through it. While he’s up close, he gives bonuses to other Retribution models, and can reposition to ensure that the arc node is where you want it. It’s gun is a wide AOE blast that is magical and dispels on a crit. While bonded to Issyria, she gets one upkeep spell for free, freeing up her focus. Hemera obviously works well with Issyria, but the enhanced arc node makes him dangerous with any caster.

	*'''Hypnos:''' Hypnos is...a bit of an odd 'jack. For starters, it's an arc node, so that's good. It's got a good, powerful gun with a good AoE, which is also good. The gun ignores LOS, concealment, and cover, which is fantastic. In melee, it's...decent, but not spectacular, the big selling point being that when it hits, it puts on a debuff that makes the target unable to move except to change facing and slaps a hefty defense penalty. When bonded with Ossyan, that gets slapped on the gun. Overall, a decent toolkit 'jack with some nasty debuff potential.		*'''Hypnos:''' Hypnos is...a bit of an odd 'jack. For starters, it's an arc node, so that's good. It's got a good, powerful gun with a good AoE, which is also good. The gun ignores LOS, concealment, and cover, which is fantastic. In melee, it's...decent, but not spectacular, the big selling point being that when it hits, it puts on a debuff that makes the target unable to move except to change facing and slaps a hefty defense penalty. When bonded with Ossyan, that gets slapped on the gun. Overall, a decent toolkit 'jack with some nasty debuff potential.

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Light Myrmidons

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	*'''Gorgon:''' Has a basic light Myrmidon statline. Force lock is THE REASON why you take this guy, and has some beautiful tactical applications. Rob a small unit or solo of their movement, or pin a big 'jack or beast in place for a heavy to attack next turn. Stall solos, pin down warcasters, slowing units, force the enemy to break formation. The polarity cannon now imposes a speed penalty, and those no longer affect charges. However, the Gorgon still makes it possible to lock down lanes with good placement.		*'''Gorgon:''' Has a basic light Myrmidon statline. Force lock is THE REASON why you take this guy, and has some beautiful tactical applications. Rob a small unit or solo of their movement, or pin a big 'jack or beast in place for a heavy to attack next turn. Stall solos, pin down warcasters, slowing units, force the enemy to break formation. The polarity cannon now imposes a speed penalty, and those no longer affect charges. However, the Gorgon still makes it possible to lock down lanes with good placement.
	*'''Griffon:''' Take two if you're taking any. Great for Jack Marshals, relatively durable, and they do good damage on the charge. Try to avoid dropping Focus into them if at all possible: but do keep in mind that even one Griffon in a group of infantry will drastically increase the survival rate of the little guys. Even though the Griffon is considered a cheap and fragile jack, just one of them can still take more punishment than an entire unit of Dawnguard Sentinels and still be a threat.		*'''Griffon:''' Take two if you're taking any. Great for Jack Marshals, relatively durable, and they do good damage on the charge. Try to avoid dropping Focus into them if at all possible: but do keep in mind that even one Griffon in a group of infantry will drastically increase the survival rate of the little guys. Even though the Griffon is considered a cheap and fragile jack, just one of them can still take more punishment than an entire unit of Dawnguard Sentinels and still be a threat.
			*'''Siren''': A light Vyre warjack, but in terms of role, think of it as a “medium” warjack. The Siren hits relatively hard for a light ‘jack, and further has blessed and magic weapons to ensure that it hits hard. It has an ability to spend focus to not suffer a damage roll from an attack, which makes it able to negate that one big hit, but requires you camp focus. It’s only once a turn, so never camp more than one. It’s gun is a moderately powerful and decent ranged attack that can take over a model it boxes. Overall, the Siren makes for a good mid range combat ‘jack.
	=====Character Light Myrmidons=====		=====Character Light Myrmidons=====
	*'''Moros:''' Moros is Garryth's personal 'jack...and it shows. On it's own, it has Pathfinder and Stealth and can spend focus to get faster. It's ranged weapon basically makes it's target unable to do much and drops its defense to a set 5. When paired with Garryth, it gains acrobatics, making it able to charge right over friendly lines.		*'''Moros:''' Moros is Garryth's personal 'jack...and it shows. On it's own, it has Pathfinder and Stealth and can spend focus to get faster. It's ranged weapon basically makes it's target unable to do much and drops its defense to a set 5. When paired with Garryth, it gains acrobatics, making it able to charge right over friendly lines.

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Vyre

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	*'''Daemon:''' You might be forgiven for thinking this is a melee 'jack, what with the blessed fists and decent MAT. But the gun is the main point of this 'jack, and it's a doozy. Basically, once you hit with it, it pushes everything nearby toward the target, then drops a decent POW AoE template on top of it. It's a potent way to clear out infantry and, failing that, pull things out of position.		*'''Daemon:''' You might be forgiven for thinking this is a melee 'jack, what with the blessed fists and decent MAT. But the gun is the main point of this 'jack, and it's a doozy. Basically, once you hit with it, it pushes everything nearby toward the target, then drops a decent POW AoE template on top of it. It's a potent way to clear out infantry and, failing that, pull things out of position.

			*'''Harpy''': This...is an odd model. It has the same pillowy fists you expect from retribution, but also flies. It has a lighter ARM, but actually decent MAT and RAT. It’s gun, the wind flayed, is decent range and POW that fires twice and pushes back. Relatively cheap with some OK support, but don’t expect it to rake in kills.

	*'''Sphinx:''' This 'jack is a bit more of a rounded kit, but has, unsurprisingly, a neat trick with its gun. Mk. 3 updated the gun so that it now causes anything hit by it to suffer from Arcane Attraction. Basically, this makes spells used against the target gain range, which can pair well with spell focused warcasters like Rahn and Ossyan.		*'''Sphinx:''' This 'jack is a bit more of a rounded kit, but has, unsurprisingly, a neat trick with its gun. Mk. 3 updated the gun so that it now causes anything hit by it to suffer from Arcane Attraction. Basically, this makes spells used against the target gain range, which can pair well with spell focused warcasters like Rahn and Ossyan.

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Warcasters

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	:Helynna is meant to be a battlegroup caster, and it shows. She grants good survivability and mobility buffs early on, then can soften or debuff targets for her jacks to finish off. Note that she is focus hungry beyond the pale, between her focus on 'jacks and her spells. Sylys should be included to keep her Rhythm of War going early on, and Arcanists are a must. Helios is an interesting, if somewhat expensive, option as it can spread focus around quite well. She is about as tough as wet tissue, so you're going to want to keep an Shield Guard nearby, Aspis being the obvious choice. Units and Solos are going to need to be good enough to hold their own as she has no support for them. Dawnguard are a good pick for this reason. An arc node is going to be useful with her offensive spells. Also, bear in mind that her feat, while potent, doesn't actually repair your warjacks, and if your opponent is smart, they're going to make sure they don't leave a lot of crippled-but-not-dead warjacks around. Then again, if you opponent fails to wreck that Phoenix...		:Helynna is meant to be a battlegroup caster, and it shows. She grants good survivability and mobility buffs early on, then can soften or debuff targets for her jacks to finish off. Note that she is focus hungry beyond the pale, between her focus on 'jacks and her spells. Sylys should be included to keep her Rhythm of War going early on, and Arcanists are a must. Helios is an interesting, if somewhat expensive, option as it can spread focus around quite well. She is about as tough as wet tissue, so you're going to want to keep an Shield Guard nearby, Aspis being the obvious choice. Units and Solos are going to need to be good enough to hold their own as she has no support for them. Dawnguard are a good pick for this reason. An arc node is going to be useful with her offensive spells. Also, bear in mind that her feat, while potent, doesn't actually repair your warjacks, and if your opponent is smart, they're going to make sure they don't leave a lot of crippled-but-not-dead warjacks around. Then again, if you opponent fails to wreck that Phoenix...


			* '''Lord Ghyrrshyld, the Forgiven''' No bullshit, meet Goreshade 4. Off the bat, the first thing to not is that both he and all ‘jacks in his command get arcane vortex, which, aside from being bullshit, makes his army incredibly hard to pin down. His stats are average, but his sword still freezes anything it hits.

			:Spells are backlash to make warcasters sad, frost field to drag down defenses, ghost walk to just walk through things, hex blast to strip enemy upkeep’s, mage sight to negate cover and stealth, and finally, revive to bring back models from the dead. Yes, seriously. One thing to note is that these spells are all firmly in the 2-3 focus range, so keeping them up is a chore. His feat give everyone around concealment, immunity to cold, and makes enemy models around him stationary.

			:Ghyrrshyld is a potent but somewhat odd caster. He works well as a buffer and debuffer, making his allies happy and his foes sad. Make a list to suit. His arcane vortex trick works particularly well to create bubbles of denial. Helios can help with focus. After, grab units and solos that hit hard, like mage hunters and dawnguard, and hit them like a frosty hammer.

	===Myrmidons (Warjacks)===		===Myrmidons (Warjacks)===