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	{{topquote\|Where we're going, we won't need eyes to see.\|Dr Weir - Event Horizon}}		{{topquote\|Where we're going, we won't need eyes to see.\|Dr Weir - Event Horizon}}
	{{topquote\|Abandon all hope, ye who enter.\|The Inferno}}		{{topquote\|Abandon all hope, ye who enter.\|The Inferno}}

	~~ALL THE CRAZY SHIT GOES DOWN HERE.~~

	'''The Warp''' (also called the '''Empyrean''', the '''Immaterium''',		'''The Warp''' (also called the '''Empyrean''', the '''Immaterium''',

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1d4chan>Derpysaurus: /* 40k */ Not sure where Doomguy fits in this sentence, but I am adding more Lion fluff

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40k: Not sure where Doomguy fits in this sentence, but I am adding more Lion fluff

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	According to old parts of lore the Material Universe is affected by the big four Chaos Gods fighting each other for supremacy. If [[Khorne]] has taken the lead? A lot more fighting and war. [[Nurgle]]? More plagues and decay. [[Slaanesh]]? A lot more torture and rape. [[Tzeentch]]? A lot more Machiavellian scheming and [[JUST AS PLANNED]]. The validity of this is debatable as it comes from Chaos worshippers themselves, and we know how legit these guys are when it comes to information about the warp.		According to old parts of lore the Material Universe is affected by the big four Chaos Gods fighting each other for supremacy. If [[Khorne]] has taken the lead? A lot more fighting and war. [[Nurgle]]? More plagues and decay. [[Slaanesh]]? A lot more torture and rape. [[Tzeentch]]? A lot more Machiavellian scheming and [[JUST AS PLANNED]]. The validity of this is debatable as it comes from Chaos worshippers themselves, and we know how legit these guys are when it comes to information about the warp.

	If you're not a [[Chaos]] god, a Chaos Spess Mehreen or a [[Daemon\|Daemon]], you have no business staying here without [[Call of Cthulhu\| Sanity checks]] (Unless you're [[Kaldor Draigo]], [[Oxyotl]] ~~and/or~~ [[Leman Russ]] (according to [[If the Emperor had a Text-to-Speech Device]]) ~~(Doomguy started out making sanity checks~~, ~~when~~ he ~~failed them a c~~'~~tan made him a god)~~, in which case you can freely stroll around, burning down Nurgle's Garden, killing Slaanesh's personal Handmaidens and breaking Canon with every step). The [[Imperium of Man]] has [[Gellar Field\|shitty protection against it]], and effectively plays a game of Russian roulette in hopes that they wouldn't get themselves dismembered alive in 11 dimensions speeding towards wherever the [[Empra]] tells them to. Which of course means that all the races of the galaxy flock to the Warp like dumbass boy scouts to a knot-tying badge, except for the [[Tau]] (who are only just discovering these horrors awaiting their tasty naivete, with their primitive Warp-Drives only skimming the stable surface of the Warp), the [[Necrons]] (which hate it, and thus use a Star Trek-like FTL that functions in realspace and therefore does not need the Warp. [[RAGE\|FUCKING CHEATERS]].), and the [[Tyranids]] who use wonky gravity manipulation to get around when they need FTL travel. The [[Eldar]] and [[Dark Eldar]] are also somewhat cheating, as they use the [[Webway]] which is like a complex network of highways through the Warp once engineered by the now-extinct [[Old Ones]] when the Warp was a lot more stable back then, a lot safer but a hell of a lot easier to get lost in. If the Warp is the deep web, then the webway is like Tor, which provide an anonymous safety from being 1337 H4X0Red by the FBI, sentient viruses or horrendous cybercriminals, only that in this Tor you'll have to encrypt all the confusing maths and find the global servers yourself.		If you're not a [[Chaos]] god, a Chaos Spess Mehreen or a [[Daemon\|Daemon]], you have no business staying here without [[Call of Cthulhu\| Sanity checks]] (Unless you're [[Kaldor Draigo]], [[Oxyotl]], [[Leman Russ]] (according to [[If the Emperor had a Text-to-Speech Device]]), or if you're the motherfucking [[Lion El'Jonson\|Lion]] who is so [[awesome\|baller]] he subconsciously created his ''[[Mirror-Caliban\|own sub-realm]]'' within the Warp, in which case you can freely stroll around, burning down Nurgle's Garden, killing Slaanesh's personal Handmaidens and [[Plot armour\|breaking Canon with every step]]). The [[Imperium of Man]] has [[Gellar Field\|shitty protection against it]], and effectively plays a game of Russian roulette in hopes that they wouldn't get themselves dismembered alive in 11 dimensions speeding towards wherever the [[Empra]] tells them to. Which of course means that all the races of the galaxy flock to the Warp like dumbass boy scouts to a knot-tying badge, except for the [[Tau]] (who are only just discovering these horrors awaiting their tasty naivete, with their primitive Warp-Drives only skimming the stable surface of the Warp), the [[Necrons]] (which hate it, and thus use a Star Trek-like FTL that functions in realspace and therefore does not need the Warp. [[RAGE\|FUCKING CHEATERS]].), and the [[Tyranids]] who use wonky gravity manipulation to get around when they need FTL travel. The [[Eldar]] and [[Dark Eldar]] are also somewhat cheating, as they use the [[Webway]] which is like a complex network of highways through the Warp once engineered by the now-extinct [[Old Ones]] when the Warp was a lot more stable back then, a lot safer but a hell of a lot easier to get lost in. If the Warp is the deep web, then the webway is like Tor, which provide an anonymous safety from being 1337 H4X0Red by the FBI, sentient viruses or horrendous cybercriminals, only that in this Tor you'll have to encrypt all the confusing maths and find the global servers yourself.

	However this doesn't mean there are no benevolent entities in warp, the problem is that either that specific benevolent entity is the Emperor (who's now <s>catatonic</s> in a position where he has no mouth and must scream, while his soul is being used as a psychic navigation lighthouse in the Warp called the Astronomicon), or they interfere with Materium once in a billion years, and when they do, they actually do nothing of significance. Also, benevolent entities would get consumed by evil entities, and/or are quickly exaggerated or "Warp"ed into something evil due to the massive amount of suffering in the material world. Or since 99% of the stuff in the warp wants to kill you and eat your soul, they also tend to just get ignored.		However this doesn't mean there are no benevolent entities in warp, the problem is that either that specific benevolent entity is the Emperor (who's now <s>catatonic</s> in a position where he has no mouth and must scream, while his soul is being used as a psychic navigation lighthouse in the Warp called the Astronomicon), or they interfere with Materium once in a billion years, and when they do, they actually do nothing of significance. Also, benevolent entities would get consumed by evil entities, and/or are quickly exaggerated or "Warp"ed into something evil due to the massive amount of suffering in the material world. Or since 99% of the stuff in the warp wants to kill you and eat your soul, they also tend to just get ignored.

1d4chan>Kirbanzo: /* 40k */

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	==40k==		==40k==
	In the universe of Warhammer 40,000, the Warp is the [[Grimdark]] answer to the "Hyperspace" trend that's universally present in almost all Space Opera for faster-than-light travel and communication. Unlike in Fantasy, the Warp in 40k is actually an adaptation of two metaphysical frameworks: Plato's World of Ideas, and Carl Jung's Collective Unconscious. Both describe a conceptual metaphysical dimension consisting of the common Ideas and thoughts present in all existence. In Platonic philosophy, all the Ideas we think are actually manifestations of a higher Extradimensional Idea. To Jung, our collective Unconscious is populated by such absolute and unending Ideas, known as Archetypes; Gods in Classical mythology are an example of this.		In the universe of Warhammer 40,000, the Warp is the [[Grimdark]] answer to the "Hyperspace" trend that's universally present in almost all Space Opera for [[FTL (Warhammer 40,000)\|faster-than-light travel]] and communication. Unlike in Fantasy, the Warp in 40k is actually an adaptation of two metaphysical frameworks: Plato's World of Ideas, and Carl Jung's Collective Unconscious. Both describe a conceptual metaphysical dimension consisting of the common Ideas and thoughts present in all existence. In Platonic philosophy, all the Ideas we think are actually manifestations of a higher Extradimensional Idea. To Jung, our collective Unconscious is populated by such absolute and unending Ideas, known as Archetypes; Gods in Classical mythology are an example of this.

	Every little thought or emotion affects this Collective Unconscious to some degree. Most people can't do much to the warp on their own, but lots of people thinking similar thoughts or feeling similar things will have a pronounced effect, especially if said people are psychic, a la the world of ''[[Mage: The Ascension]]''. Even worse is that as part of our unconscious is born out of our worst collective nightmares, we can never rid ourselves of these daemons. Gods, who specialize in specific forms of thought and feeling, are born from this place when psychic energy accumulates with a critical mass (an example is the [[Emperor]] created by countless shamans committing suicide at the same time). This is the reason why the Chaos Gods, are well, chaotic to the extreme, because the Material Universe and everybody inhabiting it are themselves chaotic to the extreme and in need of serious psychiatric therapy and/or purging.		Every little thought or emotion affects this Collective Unconscious to some degree. Most people can't do much to the warp on their own, but lots of people thinking similar thoughts or feeling similar things will have a pronounced effect, especially if said people are psychic, a la the world of ''[[Mage: The Ascension]]''. Even worse is that as part of our unconscious is born out of our worst collective nightmares, we can never rid ourselves of these daemons. Gods, who specialize in specific forms of thought and feeling, are born from this place when psychic energy accumulates with a critical mass (an example is the [[Emperor]] created by countless shamans committing suicide at the same time). This is the reason why the Chaos Gods, are well, chaotic to the extreme, because the Material Universe and everybody inhabiting it are themselves chaotic to the extreme and in need of serious psychiatric therapy and/or purging.

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History

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	=== History ===		=== History ===
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	Supposedly (according to <strike> many theorists</strike> the most crusty and privileged Imperial historians with access to the oldest records available) one of the earliest and possibly the first encounter of Humanity with the horrors of the Warp occurred sometime during the third millennium with the 'Merican starship Event Horizon. While the ship's gravity drive did successfully open a gateway in spacetime, it leapt outside the known universe and into another dimension, described later on by Dr. Weir as "a dimension of pure Chaos, pure evil". The Event Horizon has since then gained an evil sentience, telekinetic abilities and some grimdark Gothic aesthetics, tormenting and mind-raping its occupants with the aim of compelling them to return to "Hell". The Event Horizon gradually faded in the records of spaceship accidents with the development of the Gellar field, until humanity would rediscover the true danger of the Warp 24 millennia later, stronger and more fucking horrifying than ever.		Supposedly (according to <strike> many theorists</strike> the most crusty and privileged Imperial historians with access to the oldest records available) one of the earliest and possibly the first encounter of Humanity with the horrors of the Warp occurred sometime during the third millennium with the 'Merican starship Event Horizon. While the ship's gravity drive did successfully open a gateway in spacetime, it leapt outside the known universe and into another dimension, described later on by Dr. Weir as "a dimension of pure Chaos, pure evil". The Event Horizon has since then gained an evil sentience, telekinetic abilities and some grimdark Gothic aesthetics, tormenting and mind-raping its occupants with the aim of compelling them to return to "Hell". The Event Horizon gradually faded in the records of spaceship accidents with the development of the Gellar field, until humanity would rediscover the true danger of the Warp 24 millennia later, stronger and more fucking horrifying than ever.

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Hitchhiker's guide to the warp

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	* Be careful as there is no leaving the kingdom ''Alterity''.		* Be careful as there is no leaving the kingdom ''Alterity''.
	* The Allpoints lead to the eight realms, it is occupied by Archaon.		* The Allpoints lead to the eight realms, it is occupied by Archaon.
			* Corvus Corax and the Legion of the Damned might help you.

	[[Category:Warhammer Fantasy]] [[Category:Warhammer 40,000]][[Category:Chaos]]		[[Category:Warhammer Fantasy]] [[Category:Warhammer 40,000]][[Category:Chaos]]

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	By this point you may be wondering why is that no one has developed extensive measures to counter warp based phenomena, the answer is that, yes, it has been some serious attempts, with variable measures of success.		By this point you may be wondering why is that no one has developed extensive measures to counter warp based phenomena, the answer is that, yes, it has been some serious attempts, with variable measures of success.

	===in 40k===		===In 40k===
	The biggest project to shutdown the warp for good was done by the C'tan and the Necrons before they jumped on the former and turned them into pokemón. During the [[War in Heaven\|War in Heaven]], they built a vast network of pylons made from the substance known as Noctilith to effectively negate the Old Ones' main advantage, that being the use of their Webway. Interestingly this may actually explain the boundaries of the current Eye of Terror, as it appears to be that the Necrons built the network with the specific idea to surround the Eldar's core territories as they were slowly becoming more advanced while the Old Ones were getting pwned across the galaxy. Unfortunately for the Necrons, the Eldar developed quicker than expected, and with their own rebellion against the C'tan crippling them, made them abandon the network project midway. How this would have affected the Necrons themselves now that they depend on the Webway through the Dolmen Gates is a great source of speculation.		The biggest project to shutdown the warp for good was done by the C'tan and the Necrons before they jumped on the former and turned them into pokemón. During the [[War in Heaven\|War in Heaven]], they built a vast network of pylons made from the substance known as Noctilith to effectively negate the Old Ones' main advantage, that being the use of their Webway. Interestingly this may actually explain the boundaries of the current Eye of Terror, as it appears to be that the Necrons built the network with the specific idea to surround the Eldar's core territories as they were slowly becoming more advanced while the Old Ones were getting pwned across the galaxy. Unfortunately for the Necrons, the Eldar developed quicker than expected, and with their own rebellion against the C'tan crippling them, made them abandon the network project midway. How this would have affected the Necrons themselves now that they depend on the Webway through the Dolmen Gates is a great source of speculation.

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	Tau are a bit of a mixed bag as for the most part they don't even believe there is any danger to the warp at all, which is terrible naive of them, but they got dealt a good hand in that they souls are particularly 'dim' in the warp which means they tend not to get noticed by the nasty things out there anyway.		Tau are a bit of a mixed bag as for the most part they don't even believe there is any danger to the warp at all, which is terrible naive of them, but they got dealt a good hand in that they souls are particularly 'dim' in the warp which means they tend not to get noticed by the nasty things out there anyway.

	===in Fantasy/AoS===		===In Fantasy/AoS===

	In the current AoS setting it's the Kharadron Overlords the ones who have been looking for a way to neutralize magic-related phenomena, with the development of the magic-dampening null projectors and voidstone scatter-mines, these technologies seem to be costly and not widespread, but it appears to have effects both upon the Winds of Magic and Chaos-born powers although this hasn't been explored more than beyond some minor references.		In the current AoS setting it's the Kharadron Overlords the ones who have been looking for a way to neutralize magic-related phenomena, with the development of the magic-dampening null projectors and voidstone scatter-mines, these technologies seem to be costly and not widespread, but it appears to have effects both upon the Winds of Magic and Chaos-born powers although this hasn't been explored more than beyond some minor references.

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	==Hitchhiker's guide to the warp==		==Hitchhiker's guide to the warp==
	* If you are NOT Chaos, Chaos-affilliated, Chaos-favored, a Blank, or a subject of "the divinity machine," [[Fist of the North Star\|you are already dead]] as the yawning abyss would have ripped your body apart and torn your soul asunder the moment you got close.		* If you are NOT Chaos, Chaos-affilliated, Chaos-favored, a Blank, Wulfen or a subject of "the divinity machine," [[Fist of the North Star\|you are already dead]] as the yawning abyss would have ripped your body apart and torn your soul asunder the moment you got close.
	** Caveat: [[Tuska Daemonkilla\|If youz an ork ave fun krumpen all da stuff with spikez on it!]] ~~Or a wulfen.~~		** Caveat: [[Tuska Daemonkilla\|If youz an ork ave fun krumpen all da stuff with spikez on it!]]
	*** In Warhammer Fantasy, the Warp only holds non-Daemon attack hazards for beings who are tempted by Chaos (so mostly just weak-minded humans). In fact, there is a character lost within the Warp who the Chaos Gods have forbidden from being harmed, as a parody of Dante's Inferno.		*** In Warhammer Fantasy, the Warp only holds non-Daemon attack hazards for beings who are tempted by Chaos (so mostly just weak-minded humans). In fact, there is a character lost within the Warp who the Chaos Gods have forbidden from being harmed, as a parody of Dante's Inferno.
	** Being favored by Chaos is difficult, but is possible with the right [[Chaos Gods\|"connections"]]. If you have earned favor with one of those connections you will be given a "pass"; this "pass" [[Chaos Spawn\|comes]] [[Daemon Prince\|in many]] [[Chaos Space Marine\|forms]], some of which are painful. It is also '''not''' "all access."		** Being favored by Chaos is difficult, but is possible with the right [[Chaos Gods\|"connections"]]. If you have earned favor with one of those connections you will be given a "pass"; this "pass" [[Chaos Spawn\|comes]] [[Daemon Prince\|in many]] [[Chaos Space Marine\|forms]], some of which are painful. It is also '''not''' "all access."