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1d4chan>Fikilili at 10:01, 3 June 2023

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			[[File:typicalwhale.jpeg\|right\|300px\|thumb\|Fig. 1: A typical whale of the type this article is about]]
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	{{topquote\|I spared no expenses.\|John Hammond, [[Dinosaur\|Jurassic Park]]}}		{{topquote\|I spared no expenses.\|John Hammond, [[Dinosaur\|Jurassic Park]]}}
	{{topquote\|Don't ask questions, just consume product. And then get excited for next product.\|Jay Bauman, The Nerd Crew}}		{{topquote\|Don't ask questions, just consume product. And then get excited for next product.\|Jay Bauman, The Nerd Crew}}

	~~[[File:typicalwhale.jpeg\|right\|300px\|thumb\|Fig. 1: A typical whale of the type this article is about]]~~		Whales (infraorder: Cetacea) are some of the most majestic mammals on planet Earth. Despite their watery habitat, they require to breathe at the surface and do not possess gills. They count as one of the largest animals to ever exist, as well as one of the smartest, and many types have become very endangered species due mainly to overhunting. They have occasionally appeared as real world creature encounters in /tg/ related games like D&D or Pathfinder. But we could only wish this here article was only about them.
	~~[[File:Humpback_Whale_underwater_shot.jpeg\|right\|300px\|thumb\|Fig. 2: A typical whale of the type this article ''isn't'' about]]~~

	Whales (infraorder: Cetacea) are ~~one~~ of the most majestic mammals on planet Earth. Despite their watery habitat, they require to breathe at the surface and ~~does~~ not possess gills. They count as one of the largest animals to ever exist, one of the smartest and many types have become very endangered species due mainly to overhunting. They have occasionally appeared as real world creature encounters in /tg/ related games like D&D or Pathfinder. But we could only wish this here article was only about them.

	'''Whales''', also known as '''Money-hoes''', '''Consoomers''', '''Addicts''', '''Extra-spenders''', '''"Superfans"''', '''EA's moneypit''', '''the FOMO crowd''', '''"Our dear and very faithful fanbase"''', are a fringe of consumers and, unfortunately, tabletop players who possess too much money for their own good. Although they vary in many ways, Whales are easily identifiable by their habit of buying shit that they shouldn't buy, but still do because, as they usually try to justify themselves;		'''Whales''', also known as '''Money-hoes''', '''Consoomers''', '''Addicts''', '''Extra-spenders''', '''"Superfans"''', '''EA's moneypit''', '''the FOMO crowd''', '''"Our dear and very faithful fanbase"''', are a fringe of consumers and, unfortunately, tabletop players who possess too much money for their own good. Although they vary in many ways, Whales are easily identifiable by their habit of buying shit that they shouldn't buy, but still do because, as they usually try to justify themselves;
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	*[[FAIL\|It's ''their'' well hard-earned money.]] (no)		*[[FAIL\|It's ''their'' well hard-earned money.]] (no)
	*[[Bullshit\|And they can stop doing this at any time.]]		*[[Bullshit\|And they can stop doing this at any time.]]
			*[[Wut\|The company will die without financial help.]]
	In reality, they lose tons of money and are the victims of dangerous business practices and offers that more often than not border on what could considered ''scams''. Companies like [[EA]], [[Blizzard\|Activision-Blizzard]] or [[Games Workshop]] profit off of those Whales when it comes to their shadiest practices. You name them; microtransactions, cosmetics, shit-deals, scams, lootboxes...		In reality, they lose tons of money and are the victims of dangerous business practices and offers that more often than not border on what could considered ''scams''. Companies like [[EA]], [[Blizzard\|Activision-Blizzard]] or [[Games Workshop]] profit off of those Whales when it comes to their shadiest practices. You name them; microtransactions, cosmetics, shit-deals, scams, lootboxes...
	This has an effect of making what ''practically'' everyone agrees sucks ass and complains about to work (read; bad games and bad offers), because Whales don't care about they spend their money. This has a tendency of making a lot of peeps really mad, since they can't really stop them from spending like maniacs.		This has an effect of making what ''practically'' everyone agrees sucks ass and complains about to work (read; bad games and bad offers), because Whales don't care about how they spend their money. This has a tendency of making a lot of peeps really mad, since they can't really stop them from spending like maniacs.

	==Why are whales like this?==		==Why are whales like this?==

1d4chan>Saarlacfunkel at 18:04, 2 June 2023

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	[[File:typicalwhale.jpeg\|right\|300px\|thumb\|Fig. 1: A typical whale of the type this article is about]]		[[File:typicalwhale.jpeg\|right\|300px\|thumb\|Fig. 1: A typical whale of the type this article is about]]
			[[File:Humpback_Whale_underwater_shot.jpeg\|right\|300px\|thumb\|Fig. 2: A typical whale of the type this article ''isn't'' about]]

	Whales (infraorder: Cetacea) are one of the most majestic mammals on planet Earth. Despite their watery habitat, they require to breathe at the surface and does not possess gills. They count as one of the largest animals to ever exist, one of the smartest and many types have become very endangered species due mainly to overhunting. They have occasionally appeared as real world creature encounters in /tg/ related games like D&D or Pathfinder. But we could only wish this here article was only about them.		Whales (infraorder: Cetacea) are one of the most majestic mammals on planet Earth. Despite their watery habitat, they require to breathe at the surface and does not possess gills. They count as one of the largest animals to ever exist, one of the smartest and many types have become very endangered species due mainly to overhunting. They have occasionally appeared as real world creature encounters in /tg/ related games like D&D or Pathfinder. But we could only wish this here article was only about them.

1d4chan>Saarlacfunkel at 18:00, 2 June 2023

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	{{topquote\|Don't ask questions, just consume product. And then get excited for next product.\|Jay Bauman, The Nerd Crew}}		{{topquote\|Don't ask questions, just consume product. And then get excited for next product.\|Jay Bauman, The Nerd Crew}}

	[[File:typicalwhale.jpeg\|right\|300px\|thumb\|Fig. 1: A typical type ~~whale~~]]		[[File:typicalwhale.jpeg\|right\|300px\|thumb\|Fig. 1: A typical whale of the type this article is about]]

	Whales (infraorder: Cetacea) are one of the most majestic mammals on planet Earth. Despite their watery habitat, they require to breathe at the surface and does not possess gills. They count as one of the largest animals to ever exist, one of the smartest and many types have become very endangered species due mainly to overhunting. They have occasionally appeared as real world creature encounters in /tg/ related games like D&D or Pathfinder. But we could only wish this here article was only about them.		Whales (infraorder: Cetacea) are one of the most majestic mammals on planet Earth. Despite their watery habitat, they require to breathe at the surface and does not possess gills. They count as one of the largest animals to ever exist, one of the smartest and many types have become very endangered species due mainly to overhunting. They have occasionally appeared as real world creature encounters in /tg/ related games like D&D or Pathfinder. But we could only wish this here article was only about them.

1d4chan>Saarlacfunkel at 18:00, 2 June 2023

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	{{topquote\|I spared no expenses.\|John Hammond, [[Dinosaur\|Jurassic Park]]}}		{{topquote\|I spared no expenses.\|John Hammond, [[Dinosaur\|Jurassic Park]]}}
	{{topquote\|Don't ask questions, just consume product. And then get excited for next product.\|Jay Bauman, The Nerd Crew}}		{{topquote\|Don't ask questions, just consume product. And then get excited for next product.\|Jay Bauman, The Nerd Crew}}

			[[File:typicalwhale.jpeg\|right\|300px\|thumb\|Fig. 1: A typical type whale]]

	Whales (infraorder: Cetacea) are one of the most majestic mammals on planet Earth. Despite their watery habitat, they require to breathe at the surface and does not possess gills. They count as one of the largest animals to ever exist, one of the smartest and many types have become very endangered species due mainly to overhunting. They have occasionally appeared as real world creature encounters in /tg/ related games like D&D or Pathfinder. But we could only wish this here article was only about them.		Whales (infraorder: Cetacea) are one of the most majestic mammals on planet Earth. Despite their watery habitat, they require to breathe at the surface and does not possess gills. They count as one of the largest animals to ever exist, one of the smartest and many types have become very endangered species due mainly to overhunting. They have occasionally appeared as real world creature encounters in /tg/ related games like D&D or Pathfinder. But we could only wish this here article was only about them.

1d4chan>ThatOneBruvva: /* Famous whale-bait */

2023-05-27T12:31:15Z

Famous whale-bait

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	* The [[Japan\|Japanese]] managed to hone this down to such a point that they've given it a whole term: '''Gacha''', which is derived from ''Gacha''pon, little coin-operated kiosks that give you random tiny toys. Any mobile games coming from somewhere in eastern Asia (mainly Japan, but also includes [[China]] and South Korea) pretty much wallow in this mechanic to uproarious success by having whales dump loads of cash for random drops in hopes of getting their [[waifu]]/husbando as well as the ability to min-max them to hell.		* The [[Japan\|Japanese]] managed to hone this down to such a point that they've given it a whole term: '''Gacha''', which is derived from ''Gacha''pon, little coin-operated kiosks that give you random tiny toys. Any mobile games coming from somewhere in eastern Asia (mainly Japan, but also includes [[China]] and South Korea) pretty much wallow in this mechanic to uproarious success by having whales dump loads of cash for random drops in hopes of getting their [[waifu]]/husbando as well as the ability to min-max them to hell.
	** While not quite [[weeb]], [[Star Wars]] Battlefront 2 was famously lambasted for its egregious overload of lootboxes. It's dependence on buying lootboxes to get all of the items in the game was so outrageous that it even got governments to turn a critical eye to the nature of the whole mess. Not helping was EA's own defense of this bullshit, which became the most downvoted comment in [[Reddit]] history.		** While not quite [[weeb]], [[Star Wars]] Battlefront 2 was famously lambasted for its egregious overload of lootboxes. It's dependence on buying lootboxes to get all of the items in the game was so outrageous that it even got governments to turn a critical eye to the nature of the whole mess. Not helping was EA's own defense of this bullshit, which became the most downvoted comment in [[Reddit]] history.
			** [[Blizzard\|Overwatch]] - that is, the first one - was viewed by some as the first case of lootboxes arriving in the west, but funnily enough all those boxes gave were mere cosmetics with the big rewards being super-rare character skins. Removing these boxes only for the costs of directly buying those same cosmetics at a significant markup was but one of the countless many mistakes that have put the sequel under a hail of criticism.
	* Another industry that thrives upon this is Card Games. After all, you have no idea what cards you'll get so you'll be spending hundreds of bucks just so you can get that super-rare, nice-looking card that can finish your build.		* Another industry that thrives upon this is Card Games. After all, you have no idea what cards you'll get so you'll be spending hundreds of bucks just so you can get that super-rare, nice-looking card that can finish your build.
	* Many mobile games and games aimed at younger children take the lootbox model to a nasty degree, in that the game becomes unplayable or otherwise exceptionally grindy if you try to play for free.		* Many mobile games and games aimed at younger children take the lootbox model to a nasty degree, in that the game becomes unplayable or otherwise exceptionally grindy if you try to play for free.

1d4chan>Redvsdead: /* Famous whale-bait */

2023-05-27T04:36:48Z

Famous whale-bait

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	'''[[Hats]]''': What? It's just a hat. A silly hat. A wacky, unfitting hat. Hats are funny. Don't you wanna buy it? It won't affect the game. Of course not, but its got a price tag. Cosmetics are everywhere in modern video games; they serve zero purpose and they are the ones who most likely get defended by the public. Because they have no impact on the gameplay, so it must be all good, right? '''WRONG.''' The Whale is attracted to such frivolous bullshit. Even though in older games, there would've been in-game currency you could've won if you played legit, now its practically faster and more efficient to just drop that credit card and feed your spending addiction. [[Derp\|For just a fucking hat]].		'''[[Hats]]''': What? It's just a hat. A silly hat. A wacky, unfitting hat. Hats are funny. Don't you wanna buy it? It won't affect the game. Of course not, but its got a price tag. Cosmetics are everywhere in modern video games; they serve zero purpose and they are the ones who most likely get defended by the public. Because they have no impact on the gameplay, so it must be all good, right? '''WRONG.''' The Whale is attracted to such frivolous bullshit. Even though in older games, there would've been in-game currency you could've won if you played legit, now its practically faster and more efficient to just drop that credit card and feed your spending addiction. [[Derp\|For just a fucking hat]].
	* ''Famously'', [[Team Fortress 2]] and Counter Strike: Global Offensive are guilty of this. Big time. And their respective fanbases are in complete denial of how ludicrously ridiculous the whole ordeal became. Sure, you can buy hats at a very cheap price from resellers in the case of TF2, but CS:GO has a whole unhinged part of its fanbase (and that's saying something) who goes extremely crazy for a bunch of ''gloves''. Unsurprisingly, some ~~palyers~~ and even content creators have become addicted to collecting those things, and the workshops of both games are filled to the brim with hats, warpaints and reskins. They even bicker about which hat should get added into the game. God forbid you actually confront them about it, they will just call you poor.		* ''Famously'', [[Team Fortress 2]] and Counter Strike: Global Offensive are guilty of this. Big time. And their respective fanbases are in complete denial of how ludicrously ridiculous the whole ordeal became. Sure, you can buy hats at a very cheap price from resellers in the case of TF2, but CS:GO has a whole unhinged part of its fanbase (and that's saying something) who goes extremely crazy for a bunch of ''gloves''. Unsurprisingly, some players and even content creators have become addicted to collecting those things, and the workshops of both games are filled to the brim with hats, warpaints and reskins. They even bicker about which hat should get added into the game. God forbid you actually confront them about it, they will just call you poor.
	* [[The Elder Scrolls\|Oblivion]] infamously had the Horse Armor debacle. It was one of the earliest examples of a company charging money for cosmetics, and was roundly mocked by the gaming community at the time. ''Oh, if only we knew of what was to come.'' Over a decade later, Bethesda would go overboard with microtransactions for Fallout 76, which became one of the many reasons why the game sucked so badly that Bethesda had to be sold to Microsoft.		* [[The Elder Scrolls\|Oblivion]] infamously had the Horse Armor debacle. It was one of the earliest examples of a company charging money for cosmetics, and was roundly mocked by the gaming community at the time. ''Oh, if only we knew of what was to come.'' Over a decade later, Bethesda would go overboard with microtransactions for Fallout 76, which became one of the many reasons why the game sucked so badly that Bethesda had to be sold to Microsoft.
	* [[Darktide]]. In the game, you have the mandatory shop of frivolous wares, in which you can find hats. And this thing was designed by Satan's marketing team. To put it simply, there's a timer on all of the hats. If it goes off, the hat ''might be'' gone forever. To get them, you must obtain a certain amount of in-game bucks. By doing certain missions, which themselves are temporary. Funny thing is, you never have enough cash to buy the hats at the end of each mission, so you must max out your characters and carry those missions faster to get enough money in-time to obtain it. '''OR''' you buy it with Paypal. The choice is obvious to the whale.		* [[Darktide]]. In the game, you have the mandatory shop of frivolous wares, in which you can find hats. And this thing was designed by Satan's marketing team. To put it simply, there's a timer on all of the hats. If it goes off, the hat ''might be'' gone forever. To get them, you must obtain a certain amount of in-game bucks. By doing certain missions, which themselves are temporary. Funny thing is, you never have enough cash to buy the hats at the end of each mission, so you must max out your characters and carry those missions faster to get enough money in-time to obtain it. '''OR''' you buy it with Paypal. The choice is obvious to the whale.

174.48.165.232 at 20:46, 26 May 2023

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1d4chan>A Walrus: /* Why are whales like this? */

2023-05-26T16:38:37Z

Why are whales like this?

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	==Why are whales like this?==		==Why are whales like this?==
	A big part of this is what's known as the Skinner Box ~~mentality~~. In the 1950s, prof. B.F. Skinner ran some tests on pigeons using two types of test boxes. One had a button which if pushed dispensed a treat from a chute, the other a button which dispensed treats randomly. Birds locked in the first type simply pecked until they were full, but those in the second type kept pecking constantly. They also developed quirks, if one looked over their shoulder before a peck that released a treat they'd do it again before each peck. You get the same sort of responses with rats, along with humans. The casino industry is built on this.		A big part of this is what's known as the Skinner Box. In the 1950s, prof. B.F. Skinner ran some tests on pigeons using two types of test boxes. One had a button which if pushed dispensed a treat from a chute, the other a button which dispensed treats randomly. Birds locked in the first type simply pecked until they were full, but those in the second type kept pecking constantly. They also developed quirks, if one looked over their shoulder before a peck that released a treat they'd do it again before each peck. You get the same sort of responses with rats, along with humans. The casino industry is built on this.

	Most Whales are descendants from people who suffer from shopping sprees. And they themselves have a certain mentality that pushes them to act this way. For one thing; most whales live in economically comfortable social spaces, or have always lived in conditions where they were permitted to obtain anything that they wished to have. That, or they had receive a form of trauma from a life from which they were refused a lot of things. This turned into an obsession with possessing things for the sake of possessing them, or be the talk of the town for a while.		Most Whales are descendants from people who suffer from shopping sprees. And they themselves have a certain mentality that pushes them to act this way. For one thing; most whales live in economically comfortable social spaces, or have always lived in conditions where they were permitted to obtain anything that they wished to have. That, or they had receive a form of trauma from a life from which they were refused a lot of things. This turned into an obsession with possessing things for the sake of possessing them, or be the talk of the town for a while.

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			[[File:typicalwhale.jpeg\|right\|300px\|thumb\|Fig. 1: A typical whale of the type this article is about]]
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	{{topquote\|I spared no expenses.\|John Hammond, [[Dinosaur\|Jurassic Park]]}}		{{topquote\|I spared no expenses.\|John Hammond, [[Dinosaur\|Jurassic Park]]}}
	{{topquote\|Don't ask questions, just consume product. And then get excited for next product.\|Jay Bauman, The Nerd Crew}}		{{topquote\|Don't ask questions, just consume product. And then get excited for next product.\|Jay Bauman, The Nerd Crew}}

	~~[[File:typicalwhale.jpeg\|right\|300px\|thumb\|Fig. 1: A typical whale of the type this article is about]]~~		Whales (infraorder: Cetacea) are some of the most majestic mammals on planet Earth. Despite their watery habitat, they require to breathe at the surface and do not possess gills. They count as one of the largest animals to ever exist, as well as one of the smartest, and many types have become very endangered species due mainly to overhunting. They have occasionally appeared as real world creature encounters in /tg/ related games like D&D or Pathfinder. But we could only wish this here article was only about them.
	~~[[File:Humpback_Whale_underwater_shot.jpeg\|right\|300px\|thumb\|Fig. 2: A typical whale of the type this article ''isn't'' about]]~~

	Whales (infraorder: Cetacea) are ~~one~~ of the most majestic mammals on planet Earth. Despite their watery habitat, they require to breathe at the surface and ~~does~~ not possess gills. They count as one of the largest animals to ever exist, one of the smartest and many types have become very endangered species due mainly to overhunting. They have occasionally appeared as real world creature encounters in /tg/ related games like D&D or Pathfinder. But we could only wish this here article was only about them.

	'''Whales''', also known as '''Money-hoes''', '''Consoomers''', '''Addicts''', '''Extra-spenders''', '''"Superfans"''', '''EA's moneypit''', '''the FOMO crowd''', '''"Our dear and very faithful fanbase"''', are a fringe of consumers and, unfortunately, tabletop players who possess too much money for their own good. Although they vary in many ways, Whales are easily identifiable by their habit of buying shit that they shouldn't buy, but still do because, as they usually try to justify themselves;		'''Whales''', also known as '''Money-hoes''', '''Consoomers''', '''Addicts''', '''Extra-spenders''', '''"Superfans"''', '''EA's moneypit''', '''the FOMO crowd''', '''"Our dear and very faithful fanbase"''', are a fringe of consumers and, unfortunately, tabletop players who possess too much money for their own good. Although they vary in many ways, Whales are easily identifiable by their habit of buying shit that they shouldn't buy, but still do because, as they usually try to justify themselves;
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	*[[FAIL\|It's ''their'' well hard-earned money.]] (no)		*[[FAIL\|It's ''their'' well hard-earned money.]] (no)
	*[[Bullshit\|And they can stop doing this at any time.]]		*[[Bullshit\|And they can stop doing this at any time.]]
			*[[Wut\|The company will die without financial help.]]
	In reality, they lose tons of money and are the victims of dangerous business practices and offers that more often than not border on what could considered ''scams''. Companies like [[EA]], [[Blizzard\|Activision-Blizzard]] or [[Games Workshop]] profit off of those Whales when it comes to their shadiest practices. You name them; microtransactions, cosmetics, shit-deals, scams, lootboxes...		In reality, they lose tons of money and are the victims of dangerous business practices and offers that more often than not border on what could considered ''scams''. Companies like [[EA]], [[Blizzard\|Activision-Blizzard]] or [[Games Workshop]] profit off of those Whales when it comes to their shadiest practices. You name them; microtransactions, cosmetics, shit-deals, scams, lootboxes...
	This has an effect of making what ''practically'' everyone agrees sucks ass and complains about to work (read; bad games and bad offers), because Whales don't care about they spend their money. This has a tendency of making a lot of peeps really mad, since they can't really stop them from spending like maniacs.		This has an effect of making what ''practically'' everyone agrees sucks ass and complains about to work (read; bad games and bad offers), because Whales don't care about how they spend their money. This has a tendency of making a lot of peeps really mad, since they can't really stop them from spending like maniacs.

	==Why are whales like this?==		==Why are whales like this?==

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	'''Battlepasses''': See this (presumably) free game? How do you make people pay for a game more than just once and in a regular interval? Battlepasses are essentially in-game programs that reward playing the game with certain in-game rewards that reset each month. However, paying for this battlepass not only speeds up your progression on that pass, spending enough on it also gets you to certain rewards that are otherwise inaccessible just by playing the game. Not only is this a recurring drain on the bank account, it also gives rise to the utterly paradoxical idea of treating this video game that you play to enjoy as a second job that pays in nothing physical.		'''Battlepasses''': See this (presumably) free game? How do you make people pay for a game more than just once and in a regular interval? Battlepasses are essentially in-game programs that reward playing the game with certain in-game rewards that reset each month. However, paying for this battlepass not only speeds up your progression on that pass, spending enough on it also gets you to certain rewards that are otherwise inaccessible just by playing the game. Not only is this a recurring drain on the bank account, it also gives rise to the utterly paradoxical idea of treating this video game that you play to enjoy as a second job that pays in nothing physical.

	'''DLC Pipelines''': One of the [[Skub\|skubbiest]] discussions on boards like /v/ revolve around the notion of an "expansion pack" and its difference with a "DLC Season Pass". For one thing, expansion packs ''actually'' expand on the game, whereas DLCs are often accused of filling big gaps in modern games. Henceforth, they are usually sold as a definitive part of the game, but one you gotta pay for. Whales who usually buy these are very faithful players, but they do not exactly care for the consequences of buying at large approximately $500 worth of DLCs. Companies take notes. They see all trade.		'''DLC Pipelines''': One of the [[Skub\|skubbiest]] discussions on boards like /v/ revolve around the notion of an "expansion pack" and its difference with a "DLC Season Pass". For one thing, expansion packs ''actually'' expand on the game, whereas DLCs are often accused of filling big gaps in modern games. Henceforth, they are usually sold as a definitive part of the game, but one you gotta pay for. Whales who usually buy these are very faithful players, but they do not exactly care for the consequences of buying at large approximately $500 worth of DLCs. Companies take notes. They see all trade. Some games companies are starting to move away from the DLC/Expansion model to the "Live Service" model. What this means that you have to pay a monthly fee to be able to even access the game to begin with, and that the game is basically never finished as its continually added to, which can be really annoying for more story-centric games. What's especially annoying is that TTRPGs like D&D are starting to move to the Live Service model as well.
	* [[Total War: Warhammer]] is famously guilty of this. Not only do you not have access to many of the central factions of the game if you don't actually spare <s>a few</s> all of your bucks, but the pipeline is so large that it might actually be more profitable to just start playing the tabletop version. Of course, nobody in the community even dares to approach the issue because this would mean directly calling out a system they have helped nurture for the past near-decade.		* [[Total War: Warhammer]] is famously guilty of this. Not only do you not have access to many of the central factions of the game if you don't actually spare <s>a few</s> all of your bucks, but the pipeline is so large that it might actually be more profitable to just start playing the tabletop version. Of course, nobody in the community even dares to approach the issue because this would mean directly calling out a system they have helped nurture for the past near-decade.
	* [[Stellaris\|Anything]] [[Hearts of Iron\|made]] [[Crusader Kings\|by]] [[Europa Universalis\|Paradox]] [[Victoria\|Interactive]]. The Wehraboos buying their games have practically given them so much money for their DLCs that they could fun a new Marshall plan on their own. They've been called out multiple times, but god forbid you directly confront their fanbase about this. They'll just call you "poor" and an "uncultured swine".		* [[Stellaris\|Anything]] [[Hearts of Iron\|made]] [[Crusader Kings\|by]] [[Europa Universalis\|Paradox]] [[Victoria\|Interactive]]. The Wehraboos buying their games have practically given them so much money for their DLCs that they could fun a new Marshall plan on their own. They've been called out multiple times, but god forbid you directly confront their fanbase about this. They'll just call you "poor" and an "uncultured swine".
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	'''[[Hats]]''': What? It's just a hat. A silly hat. A wacky, unfitting hat. Hats are funny. Don't you wanna buy it? It won't affect the game. Of course not, but its got a price tag. Cosmetics are everywhere in modern video games; they serve zero purpose and they are the ones who most likely get defended by the public. Because they have no impact on the gameplay, so it must be all good, right? '''WRONG.''' The Whale is attracted to such frivolous bullshit. Even though in older games, there would've been in-game currency you could've won if you played legit, now its practically faster and more efficient to just drop that credit card and feed your spending addiction. [[Derp\|For just a fucking hat]].		'''[[Hats]]''': What? It's just a hat. A silly hat. A wacky, unfitting hat. Hats are funny. Don't you wanna buy it? It won't affect the game. Of course not, but its got a price tag. Cosmetics are everywhere in modern video games; they serve zero purpose and they are the ones who most likely get defended by the public. Because they have no impact on the gameplay, so it must be all good, right? '''WRONG.''' The Whale is attracted to such frivolous bullshit. Even though in older games, there would've been in-game currency you could've won if you played legit, now its practically faster and more efficient to just drop that credit card and feed your spending addiction. [[Derp\|For just a fucking hat]].
	* ''Famously'', [[Team Fortress 2]] and Counter Strike: Global Offensive are guilty of this. Big time. And their respective fanbases are in complete denial of how ludicrously ridiculous the whole ordeal became. Sure, you can buy hats at a very cheap price from resellers in the case of TF2, but CS:GO has a whole unhinged part of its fanbase (and that's saying something) who goes extremely crazy for a bunch of ''gloves''. Unsurprisingly, some palyers and even content creators have become addicted to collecting those things, and the workshops of both games are filled to the brim with hats, warpaints and reskins. They even bicker about which hat should get added into the game. God forbid you actually confront them about it, they will just call you poor.		* ''Famously'', [[Team Fortress 2]] and Counter Strike: Global Offensive are guilty of this. Big time. And their respective fanbases are in complete denial of how ludicrously ridiculous the whole ordeal became. Sure, you can buy hats at a very cheap price from resellers in the case of TF2, but CS:GO has a whole unhinged part of its fanbase (and that's saying something) who goes extremely crazy for a bunch of ''gloves''. Unsurprisingly, some palyers and even content creators have become addicted to collecting those things, and the workshops of both games are filled to the brim with hats, warpaints and reskins. They even bicker about which hat should get added into the game. God forbid you actually confront them about it, they will just call you poor.
			* [[The Elder Scrolls\|Oblivion]] infamously had the Horse Armor debacle. It was one of the earliest examples of a company charging money for cosmetics, and was roundly mocked by the gaming community at the time. ''Oh, if only we knew of what was to come.'' Over a decade later, Bethesda would go overboard with microtransactions for Fallout 76, which became one of the many reasons why the game sucked so badly that Bethesda had to be sold to Microsoft.
	* [[Darktide]]. In the game, you have the mandatory shop of frivolous wares, in which you can find hats. And this thing was designed by Satan's marketing team. To put it simply, there's a timer on all of the hats. If it goes off, the hat ''might be'' gone forever. To get them, you must obtain a certain amount of in-game bucks. By doing certain missions, which themselves are temporary. Funny thing is, you never have enough cash to buy the hats at the end of each mission, so you must max out your characters and carry those missions faster to get enough money in-time to obtain it. '''OR''' you buy it with Paypal. The choice is obvious to the whale.		* [[Darktide]]. In the game, you have the mandatory shop of frivolous wares, in which you can find hats. And this thing was designed by Satan's marketing team. To put it simply, there's a timer on all of the hats. If it goes off, the hat ''might be'' gone forever. To get them, you must obtain a certain amount of in-game bucks. By doing certain missions, which themselves are temporary. Funny thing is, you never have enough cash to buy the hats at the end of each mission, so you must max out your characters and carry those missions faster to get enough money in-time to obtain it. '''OR''' you buy it with Paypal. The choice is obvious to the whale.
	** Fat Shark never did this before. [[Vermintide]] had a similar system, but at least the pricetags were reasonable and you could actually obtain enough money through missions. Which actually aren't set on a timer and can be done at any given time. Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you, Fat Shark?		** Fat Shark never did this before. [[Vermintide]] had a similar system, but at least the pricetags were reasonable and you could actually obtain enough money through missions. Which actually aren't set on a timer and can be done at any given time. Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you, Fat Shark?
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	** While not quite [[weeb]], [[Star Wars]] Battlefront 2 was famously lambasted for its egregious overload of lootboxes. It's dependence on buying lootboxes to get all of the items in the game was so outrageous that it even got governments to turn a critical eye to the nature of the whole mess. Not helping was EA's own defense of this bullshit, which became the most downvoted comment in [[Reddit]] history.		** While not quite [[weeb]], [[Star Wars]] Battlefront 2 was famously lambasted for its egregious overload of lootboxes. It's dependence on buying lootboxes to get all of the items in the game was so outrageous that it even got governments to turn a critical eye to the nature of the whole mess. Not helping was EA's own defense of this bullshit, which became the most downvoted comment in [[Reddit]] history.
	* Another industry that thrives upon this is Card Games. After all, you have no idea what cards you'll get so you'll be spending hundreds of bucks just so you can get that super-rare, nice-looking card that can finish your build.		* Another industry that thrives upon this is Card Games. After all, you have no idea what cards you'll get so you'll be spending hundreds of bucks just so you can get that super-rare, nice-looking card that can finish your build.
			* Many mobile games and games aimed at younger children take the lootbox model to a nasty degree, in that the game becomes unplayable or otherwise exceptionally grindy if you try to play for free.

	'''Simping''': While not (usually) rooted in anything /tg/ would care about, it is nonetheless one it can be subject to thanks to the rise of real-play livestreams like [[Critical Role]] on sites such as YouTube and Twitch. Essentially anyone who streams on any of those sites will get weird people who will dump dozens, hundreds, maybe even thousands just to see the [[No Girls on the Internet\|cute girl on stream]] say their name. Why do they do this? Because these are people who sadly have lost touch with reality and view their relationship with the streamer as something closer than just a performer and an audience, the causes of this belief being a lengthy discourse on psychology us neckbeards playing make-believe with plastic toys aren't the most qualified for and only got worse with the 2020 pandemic.		'''Simping''': While not (usually) rooted in anything /tg/ would care about, it is nonetheless one it can be subject to thanks to the rise of real-play livestreams like [[Critical Role]] on sites such as YouTube and Twitch. Essentially anyone who streams on any of those sites will get weird people who will dump dozens, hundreds, maybe even thousands just to see the [[No Girls on the Internet\|cute girl on stream]] say their name. Why do they do this? Because these are people who sadly have lost touch with reality and view their relationship with the streamer as something closer than just a performer and an audience, the causes of this belief being a lengthy discourse on psychology us neckbeards playing make-believe with plastic toys aren't the most qualified for and only got worse with the 2020 pandemic.
	* Simping has taken on another meaning as well, in that someone will pay a girl for [[PROMOTIONS\|NSFW material]], usually only reserved to special paying individuals like them. While not as relevant to /tg/ as simps on TTRPG streams, the rise of sites like OnlyFans shows what lows these kinds of whales will go to.		* Simping has taken on another meaning as well, in that someone will pay a girl for [[PROMOTIONS\|NSFW material]], usually only reserved to special paying individuals like them. While not as relevant to /tg/ as simps on TTRPG streams, the rise of sites like OnlyFans shows what lows these kinds of whales will go to. May go hand-in-hand with the above point, as part of the Twitch-to-OnlyFans pipeline of simpery.
	* That said, the person on the other side of the stream isn't necessarily always winning, as that $100 they just received from some unlucky schmuck is split up between the streaming service, paying for relevant services, and paying the wages for any staff, and ultimately leaves the streamer with only a fraction of $100. Sometimes, that money will be spent on improving their streaming setup with new equipment or to pay for something behind-the-scenes, while other times they'll just blow it on petty shit like any of the other shit here.		* That said, the person on the other side of the stream isn't necessarily always winning, as that $100 they just received from some unlucky schmuck is split up between the streaming service, paying for relevant services, and paying the wages for any staff, and ultimately leaves the streamer with only a fraction of $100. Sometimes, that money will be spent on improving their streaming setup with new equipment or to pay for something behind-the-scenes, while other times they'll just blow it on petty shit like any of the other shit here.