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Backstory

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	When a fleet of transports arrives to finally collect the exiled Calibanites, he becomes a key part of the plot to root out sympathisers within the newly arrived Dark Angels and mentally influence them whilst Luther gives a stirring oratory. However, when it looks like things are going ''too well'', Zahariel takes issue with the lack of [[Chaos\|conflict]], believing it will cause a stagnation of Luther's plan. So Zahariel kills that Dark Angel's commander Belath ''(Astelan's nemesis)'' and the party devolves into bloodshed.		When a fleet of transports arrives to finally collect the exiled Calibanites, he becomes a key part of the plot to root out sympathisers within the newly arrived Dark Angels and mentally influence them whilst Luther gives a stirring oratory. However, when it looks like things are going ''too well'', Zahariel takes issue with the lack of [[Chaos\|conflict]], believing it will cause a stagnation of Luther's plan. So Zahariel kills that Dark Angel's commander Belath ''(Astelan's nemesis)'' and the party devolves into bloodshed.

	He then chases down the Lord Cypher, who took the ensuing carnaged caused by the fighting to level a few plasma shots at Zahariel. They have a stand off where the Watchers in the Dark protect Cypher from Z's attacks, but back off when they realise he is being fueled by the Ouroboros and threatens to let it loose from the cage. Without the protection of the Watchers, Zahariel then kills the Lord Cypher. ''(we don't see the death in gory details, only Cypher's fall and the body being hidden by the Librarians)''.		He then chases down the Lord Cypher, who took the ensuing carnaged caused by the fighting to level a few plasma shots at Zahariel. They have a stand off where the Watchers in the Dark protect Cypher from Z's attacks, but back off when they realise he is being fueled by the Ouroboros and threatens to let it loose from the cage. Without the protection of the Watchers, Zahariel then kills the Lord Cypher. ''(We don't see the death in gory details, only Cypher's fall and the body being hidden by the Librarians.)''

	When no-one can find the body, Zahariel is then invested as the new Lord Cypher by Luther.		When no-one can find the body, Zahariel is then invested as the new Lord Cypher by Luther.

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	Later, after following Cypher around for a bit to see where he's been sneaking off to, Zahariel realises that he didn't manage to kill the Ouroboros earlier, and it comes back with a bit of a vengeance. [[Cypher]] has a spastic attack and runs away.		Later, after following Cypher around for a bit to see where he's been sneaking off to, Zahariel realises that he didn't manage to kill the Ouroboros earlier, and it comes back with a bit of a vengeance. [[Cypher]] has a spastic attack and runs away.

	'''''Angels of Caliban''''' follows immediately after this point, where Zahariel has been buried under a cave of rubble and is treated to visions from the Ouroboros and comes to the conclusion that the Ouroboros is in fact the soul of Caliban, and takes a level up in power as he starts drawing from it.		'''''Angels of Caliban''''' follows immediately after this point, where Zahariel has been buried under a cave of rubble and is treated to visions from the Ouroboros and comes to the conclusion that the Ouroboros is in fact the soul of Caliban, and takes a level up in power as he starts drawing from it.

	His typically idealistic position starts changing at this point, where his position within Luther's circle of trust becomes the member who wants to see Caliban restored to its "pure" state, opposed to '''Astelan''' who sees only the glory days of the "First Legion" ''(distinct from the "Dark Angels" who came later)'' and separate from Luther's design for a resurgent "Order" ''(also distinct from the Dark Angels or the "First")'' or the Lord Cypher who -along with the Watchers- only wants to keep a lid on the Ouroboros.		His typically idealistic position starts changing at this point, where his position within Luther's circle of trust becomes the member who wants to see Caliban restored to its "pure" state, opposed to '''Astelan''' who sees only the glory days of the "First Legion" ''(distinct from the "Dark Angels" who came later)'' and separate from Luther's design for a resurgent "Order" ''(also distinct from the Dark Angels or the "First")'' or the Lord Cypher who -along with the Watchers- only wants to keep a lid on the Ouroboros.
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	When a fleet of transports arrives to finally collect the exiled Calibanites, he becomes a key part of the plot to root out sympathisers within the newly arrived Dark Angels and mentally influence them whilst Luther gives a stirring oratory. However, when it looks like things are going ''too well'', Zahariel takes issue with the lack of [[Chaos\|conflict]], believing it will cause a stagnation of Luther's plan. So Zahariel kills that Dark Angel's commander Belath ''(Astelan's nemesis)'' and the party devolves into bloodshed.		When a fleet of transports arrives to finally collect the exiled Calibanites, he becomes a key part of the plot to root out sympathisers within the newly arrived Dark Angels and mentally influence them whilst Luther gives a stirring oratory. However, when it looks like things are going ''too well'', Zahariel takes issue with the lack of [[Chaos\|conflict]], believing it will cause a stagnation of Luther's plan. So Zahariel kills that Dark Angel's commander Belath ''(Astelan's nemesis)'' and the party devolves into bloodshed.

	He then chases down the Lord Cypher, who took the ensuing carnaged caused by the fighting to level a few plasma shots at Zahariel. They have a stand off where the Watchers in the Dark protect Cypher from Z's attacks, but back off when they realise he is being fueled by the Ouroboros and threatens to let it loose from the cage. Without the protection of the Watchers, Zahariel then kills the Lord Cypher. ''(we don't see the death in gory details, only Cypher's fall and the body being hidden by the Librarians)''		He then chases down the Lord Cypher, who took the ensuing carnaged caused by the fighting to level a few plasma shots at Zahariel. They have a stand off where the Watchers in the Dark protect Cypher from Z's attacks, but back off when they realise he is being fueled by the Ouroboros and threatens to let it loose from the cage. Without the protection of the Watchers, Zahariel then kills the Lord Cypher. ''(we don't see the death in gory details, only Cypher's fall and the body being hidden by the Librarians)''.

	When no-one can find the body, Zahariel is then invested as the new Lord Cypher by Luther.		When no-one can find the body, Zahariel is then invested as the new Lord Cypher by Luther.
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	==41st Millennium?==		==41st Millennium?==
	As the plot progresses, Zahariel is overwhelmed by the [[Ouroboros]] and becomes its vessel for its power, which he believes is the "Heart of Caliban", though it is strongly intimated that he does not really understand what he is dealing with. Zahariel kills the Lord Cypher of Luther's era and takes his place. This makes him a strong contender for the secret identity of [[Cypher]] in the 41st Millennium, especially considering that both figures have a strong connection to the Ouroboros device and are pretty much the only individuals outside of the [[Watchers in the Dark]] who are aware of its capabilities.		As the plot progresses, Zahariel is overwhelmed by the [[Ouroboros]] and becomes its vessel for its power, which he believes is the "Heart of Caliban", though it is strongly intimated that he does not really understand what he is dealing with. Zahariel kills the Lord Cypher of Luther's era and takes his place. This makes him a strong contender for the secret identity of [[Cypher]] in the 41st Millennium, especially considering that both figures have a strong connection to the Ouroboros device and are pretty much the only individuals outside of the [[Watchers in the Dark]] who are aware of its capabilities.

	However, Luther points out that ''"his"'' Cypher was slain by Corswain during the battle over Caliban, though Luther only has hearsay to support this assumption, and it does not appear to fit the Dark Angels understanding of events.		However, Luther points out that ''"his"'' Cypher was slain by Corswain during the battle over Caliban, though Luther only has hearsay to support this assumption, and it does not appear to fit the Dark Angels understanding of events.

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	He does exist in the [[The Horus Heresy: Legions]] as the first Warlord to be released in the Defenders of Caliban set.		He does exist in the [[The Horus Heresy: Legions]] as the first Warlord to be released in the Defenders of Caliban set.

	==~~Back Story~~==		==Backstory==
	Before the [[Imperium]] turned up, as a child of about seven years old he and his cousin ''Nemiel'' joined the '''The Order''' ''(a [[Paladin\|knightly]] order where [[Lion El'Jonson]] was grand master)'' after spending a night stood to attention without moving, outside of their fortress walls... without shoes or a coat... ON A [[Death World\|DEATH WORLD]].		Before the [[Imperium]] turned up, as a child of about seven years old he and his cousin ''Nemiel'' joined the '''The Order''' ''(a [[Paladin\|knightly]] order where [[Lion El'Jonson]] was grand master)'' after spending a night stood to attention without moving, outside of their fortress walls... without shoes or a coat... ON A [[Death World\|DEATH WORLD]].

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	'''Zahariel''' was a [[Awesome\|bad-ass]] [[Librarian]] of the [[Dark Angels\|First Legion]] during the [[Great Crusade]] and later joined [[Luther]] in exile on [[Caliban]] due to inexplicable orders of their [[Primarch]] [[Lion El'Jonson]], despite being one of the most [[Noblebright\|idealistic]] [[Space Marines]] you'll ever find.		'''Zahariel''' was a [[Awesome\|bad-ass]] [[Librarian]] of the [[Dark Angels\|First Legion]] during the [[Great Crusade]] and later joined [[Luther]] in exile on [[Caliban]] due to inexplicable orders of their [[Primarch]] [[Lion El'Jonson]], despite being one of the most [[Noblebright\|idealistic]] [[Space Marines]] you'll ever find.

	Also; ''if you believe half the ~~forums~~ on the internet'' a potential candidate for the secret identity of the [[Fallen Angels\|Fallen Angel]] [[Cypher]] ''(more on that below)''		Also, ''if you believe half the fora on the internet'' a potential candidate for the secret identity of the [[Fallen Angels\|Fallen Angel]] [[Cypher]] ''(more on that below)''.

	No model or rules yet exist for him in [[Forgeworld]]s [[Horus Heresy]] series, and may never exist, but we can only hope.		No model or rules yet exist for him in [[Forgeworld]]s [[Horus Heresy]] series, and may never exist, but we can only hope.

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2021-08-17T03:01:28Z

41st Millennium?

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	The novel ''Pandorax'' threw an interesting spanner into the mix by introducing a [[derp\|NOT-Fallen]] [[Fallen Angels\|Fallen]]. ''Grand Master Epimetheus'' was one of the [[Grey Knight]] founders along with [[Knights-Errant\|Janus, Khyron, etc]] and was trapped in stasis on Pandorax for ten thousand years. Grey Knights change their names to be anti-daemon, and 40k Epimetheus is very clearly a [[Psyker]] just as Zahariel was, unlike M41 [[Cypher]]. It is made quite clear in a conversation between Epimetheus and a [[Lord of Change]] that Epimetheus should not have existed in that timeline and that he somehow traded destinies with someone else. Though not actually ''Fallen'', this version of Epimetheus still considers himself "Fallen" since he really should have been, and so he avoids the 40k Dark Angels out of shame.		The novel ''Pandorax'' threw an interesting spanner into the mix by introducing a [[derp\|NOT-Fallen]] [[Fallen Angels\|Fallen]]. ''Grand Master Epimetheus'' was one of the [[Grey Knight]] founders along with [[Knights-Errant\|Janus, Khyron, etc]] and was trapped in stasis on Pandorax for ten thousand years. Grey Knights change their names to be anti-daemon, and 40k Epimetheus is very clearly a [[Psyker]] just as Zahariel was, unlike M41 [[Cypher]]. It is made quite clear in a conversation between Epimetheus and a [[Lord of Change]] that Epimetheus should not have existed in that timeline and that he somehow traded destinies with someone else. Though not actually ''Fallen'', this version of Epimetheus still considers himself "Fallen" since he really should have been, and so he avoids the 40k Dark Angels out of shame.

	As an extension of this, the Lord of Change claims to be the one who corrupted half of the [[Dark Angels]] legion to become the [[Fallen Angels]], but remarks that Epimetheus was the one who "nearly spoiled everything." Epimetheus points out that he recognised this daemon even before it makes the claim of corrupting the legion proceeds to '''UNMAKE''' the fucker, true-deathing it into oblivion using its [[Truenamer\|True Name]]. If a simple Lord of Change over a few pages of a much bigger storyline really was the entity that corrupted Luther's portion of the Legion, then it means that Zahariel and the Ouroboros are just one more party in the Fallen/Loyalist war that inevitably destroyed the planet. Luther was definitely summoning what appeared to be [[Horror\|Blue Horrors]] without Zahariel's knowledge during his exile on Caliban, so there appear to by myriad factions of the Fallen. It also means that even though Zahariel was a pawn of the Ouroboros, he was not necessarily knowingly in league with one ''(or aware of)'' of the four chaos powers.		As an extension of this, the Lord of Change claims to be the one who corrupted half of the [[Dark Angels]] legion to become the [[Fallen Angels]], but remarks that Epimetheus was the one who "nearly spoiled everything." Epimetheus points out that he recognised this daemon even before it makes the claim of corrupting the legion proceeds to '''UNMAKE''' the fucker, true-deathing it into oblivion using its [[Truenamer\|True Name]]. If a simple Lord of Change over a few pages of a much bigger storyline really was the entity that corrupted Luther's portion of the Legion, then it means that Zahariel and the Ouroboros are just one more party in the Fallen/Loyalist war that inevitably destroyed the planet. Luther was definitely summoning what appeared to be [[Horror\|Blue Horrors]] without Zahariel's knowledge during his exile on Caliban, so there appear to be myriad factions of the Fallen. It also means that even though Zahariel was a pawn of the Ouroboros, he was not necessarily knowingly in league with one ''(or aware of)'' of the four chaos powers.

	Therefore there are several things to consider regarding what happens to Zahariel:		Therefore there are several things to consider regarding what happens to Zahariel:

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	BUT Luther [[What\|brings him back from the dead]] using [[Chaos\|"Advanced Medicine"]] just to ask him the creature's name so he can control it himself, using what he learned from the books of the Knights of Lupus.		BUT Luther [[What\|brings him back from the dead]] using [[Chaos\|"Advanced Medicine"]] just to ask him the creature's name so he can control it himself, using what he learned from the books of the Knights of Lupus.

	Zahariel had been recovering for several months, and when he awoke from his post-death coma Luther revealed that he now knew the [[Horus Heresy]] was in full swing ''(the [[Knights-Errant]] must have come to Caliban at this time and let that knowledge out)'' and Luther's plan to free Caliban from the Imperium was about to be enacted. Therefore an uncertain Zahariel lies to Luther and says he doesn't know the creature's name after realising that the Terrans were, in fact, trying to [[Not as Planned\|banish the creature instead of summon it.]]		Zahariel had been recovering for several months ([[Chaos\|eight]] months to be exact), and when he awoke from his post-death coma Luther revealed that he now knew the [[Horus Heresy]] was in full swing ''(the [[Knights-Errant]] must have come to Caliban at this time and let that knowledge out)'' and Luther's plan to free Caliban from the Imperium was about to be enacted. Therefore an uncertain Zahariel lies to Luther and says he doesn't know the creature's name after realising that the Terrans were, in fact, trying to [[Not as Planned\|banish the creature instead of summon it.]]

	Later, after following Cypher around for a bit to see where he's been sneaking off to, Zahariel realises that he didn't manage to kill the Ouroboros earlier, and it comes back with a bit of a vengeance. [[Cypher]] has a spastic attack and runs away.		Later, after following Cypher around for a bit to see where he's been sneaking off to, Zahariel realises that he didn't manage to kill the Ouroboros earlier, and it comes back with a bit of a vengeance. [[Cypher]] has a spastic attack and runs away.

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	Shortly afterwards however, Nemiel gets his head punched off by his Primarch for having a minor disagreement over whether the legion can use [[Librarian]]s or not (during a FUCKING DAEMON INVASION I MIGHT ADD). ''Not that it stopped Zahariel using his powers back home anyway.''		Shortly afterwards however, Nemiel gets his head punched off by his Primarch for having a minor disagreement over whether the legion can use [[Librarian]]s or not (during a FUCKING DAEMON INVASION I MIGHT ADD). ''Not that it stopped Zahariel using his powers back home anyway.''

	So then, after much social and warp upheaval back home, Zahariel meets the [[Watchers in the Dark]] again who tell him how fucked up Caliban went, since humans killed all the [[Chaos Spawn\|beasts]] in the forest that were guarding (and soaking up the energies of) the [[Chaos\|tainted]] locations cause the planet had been hiding a dark secret since the beginning of time apparently (it is really close to the Eye of Terror), and now that shit (the Ouroboros) was waking up.		So then, after much social and warp upheaval back home, Zahariel meets the [[Watchers in the Dark]] again who tell him how fucked up Caliban went, since humans killed all the [[Chaos Spawn\|beasts]] in the forest that were guarding (and soaking up the energies of) the [[Chaos\|tainted]] locations cause the planet had been hiding a dark secret since the beginning of time apparently (it is really close to the Eye of Terror), and now that shit (the [[Ouroboros]]) was waking up.

	Luther ''(who in the mean time had been reading books from the [[Chaos\|Knights of Lupus]] with encouragement from the then-current Lord Cypher, believed to be one of the Knights of Lupus)'' discovers some Terrans doing a ritual apparently to summon a daemon. He and Zahariel go to break that shit up. [[derp\|Zahariel dies]] trying to kill it but learns its [[Daemon#True Names\|True Name]] in the process.		Luther ''(who in the mean time had been reading books from the [[Chaos\|Knights of Lupus]] with encouragement from the then-current Lord Cypher, believed to be one of the Knights of Lupus)'' discovers some Terrans doing a ritual apparently to summon a daemon. He and Zahariel go to break that shit up. [[derp\|Zahariel dies]] trying to kill it but learns its [[Daemon#True Names\|True Name]] in the process.

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Back Story

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	Before the [[Imperium]] turned up, as a child of about seven years old he and his cousin ''Nemiel'' joined the '''The Order''' ''(a [[Paladin\|knightly]] order where [[Lion El'Jonson]] was grand master)'' after spending a night stood to attention without moving, outside of their fortress walls... without shoes or a coat... ON A [[Death World\|DEATH WORLD]].		Before the [[Imperium]] turned up, as a child of about seven years old he and his cousin ''Nemiel'' joined the '''The Order''' ''(a [[Paladin\|knightly]] order where [[Lion El'Jonson]] was grand master)'' after spending a night stood to attention without moving, outside of their fortress walls... without shoes or a coat... ON A [[Death World\|DEATH WORLD]].

	After a few ~~year~~ and a cliche training montage, he loses his mentor and hero to a [[Chaos Spawn\|Beast of the Forest]], so naturally he goes on an EPIC QUEST FOR VENGEANCE!		After a few years and a cliche training montage, he loses his mentor and hero to a [[Chaos Spawn\|Beast of the Forest]], so naturally he goes on an EPIC QUEST FOR VENGEANCE!

	On the road discovers [[Watchers in the Dark]] who of course tell him "BEWARE", "THE FORESTS ARE HAUNTED", "TURN BACK", "YOU HAVE A SECRET HIDDEN POWER" and all that cliched shit, he continues on his merry way and eventually slays the beast.		On the road discovers [[Watchers in the Dark]] who of course tell him "BEWARE", "THE FORESTS ARE HAUNTED", "TURN BACK", "YOU HAVE A SECRET HIDDEN POWER" and all that cliched shit, he continues on his merry way and eventually slays the beast.