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1d4chan>HyperionEinherjar at 15:42, 14 June 2023

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	Surprisingly, he's on pretty decent terms with [[Greasus Goldtooth]], the two having met in a negotiation to allow Cathayan Caravans through his territory. The two had bonded over their not so great relationship with their dads and came to an agreement to allow Cathayan Caravans through the Goldtooth lands in exchange for a toll. It seems to be a pretty major friendship, as Zhao's faction in Total War Warhammer 3 comes with a factionwide army upkeep buff to Ogre Mercenaries. Gotta respect a guy who sees beyond appearances.		Surprisingly, he's on pretty decent terms with [[Greasus Goldtooth]], the two having met in a negotiation to allow Cathayan Caravans through his territory. The two had bonded over their not so great relationship with their dads and came to an agreement to allow Cathayan Caravans through the Goldtooth lands in exchange for a toll. It seems to be a pretty major friendship, as Zhao's faction in Total War Warhammer 3 comes with a factionwide army upkeep buff to Ogre Mercenaries. Gotta respect a guy who sees beyond appearances.

	~~Also~~ worth ~~pointing out is~~ that ~~this dude fuuucks. Seriously, one of~~ Cathay~~'s lord units is know as~~ a "~~Dragon-Blooded Shugengan~~" ~~and that Dragon-Blooded bit is not a metaphor: they are humans with dragon blood somewhere~~ in ~~their ancestry. Considering that Zhao is pretty much~~ the ~~only~~ one ~~of the dragon siblings~~ who ~~doesn~~'~~t see humans as~~ a ~~step up from vermin we can assume that most~~ of ~~these lords are~~ his ~~bastard children or~~ the ~~descendants~~ of ~~bastard children,~~ and ~~considering~~ that ~~you can recruit an unlimited number~~ of ~~them over a campaign wellll..~~.		It's worth noting that Cathay has a sort of "Charlemagne/Genghis Khan" issue (related to how in the real world if one goes far back enough in a family tree you'll eventually hit ''someone'' who is related in some way to Charlemagne or Genghis Khan), except it's Zhao Ming. Cathay has a LOT of Dragon-Blooded nobility, and while his other siblings have felt the itch over the centuries, Zhao's more open-minded treatment of his subjects and followers means that the guy has never had issues warming his bedside. Needless to say, a large percentage of Dragon-blooded families trace their lineage back to Zhao.

	He also turns out to be a bit of a mamas boy and is the Moon Empress' favourite child, which probably contributes to his continued rule over the West while his other siblings think he might be nuts.		He also turns out to be a bit of a mamas boy and is the Moon Empress' favourite child, which probably contributes to his continued rule over the West while his other siblings think he might be nuts.

2A02:1810:4E2C:A900:8578:D7AD:D5EF:B781 at 03:25, 14 June 2023

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	Surprisingly, he's on pretty decent terms with [[Greasus Goldtooth]], the two having met in a negotiation to allow Cathayan Caravans through his territory. The two had bonded over their not so great relationship with their dads and came to an agreement to allow Cathayan Caravans through the Goldtooth lands in exchange for a toll. It seems to be a pretty major friendship, as Zhao's faction in Total War Warhammer 3 comes with a factionwide army upkeep buff to Ogre Mercenaries. Gotta respect a guy who sees beyond appearances.		Surprisingly, he's on pretty decent terms with [[Greasus Goldtooth]], the two having met in a negotiation to allow Cathayan Caravans through his territory. The two had bonded over their not so great relationship with their dads and came to an agreement to allow Cathayan Caravans through the Goldtooth lands in exchange for a toll. It seems to be a pretty major friendship, as Zhao's faction in Total War Warhammer 3 comes with a factionwide army upkeep buff to Ogre Mercenaries. Gotta respect a guy who sees beyond appearances.

	Also worth pointing out is that this dude fuuucks. Seriously, one of Cathay's lord units is know as a "Dragon-Blooded Shugengan" and that Dragon-Blooded bit is not a metaphor: they are humans with dragon blood somewhere in their ancestry. Considering that Zhao is pretty much the only one of the dragon siblings who doesn't see humans as a step up from vermin we can assume that most of ~~theses~~ lords are his bastard children or the descendants of bastard children, and considering that you can recruit an unlimited number of them over a campaign wellll...		Also worth pointing out is that this dude fuuucks. Seriously, one of Cathay's lord units is know as a "Dragon-Blooded Shugengan" and that Dragon-Blooded bit is not a metaphor: they are humans with dragon blood somewhere in their ancestry. Considering that Zhao is pretty much the only one of the dragon siblings who doesn't see humans as a step up from vermin we can assume that most of these lords are his bastard children or the descendants of bastard children, and considering that you can recruit an unlimited number of them over a campaign wellll...

	He also turns out to be a bit of a mamas boy and is the Moon Empress' favourite child, which probably contributes to his continued rule over the West while his other siblings think he might be nuts.		He also turns out to be a bit of a mamas boy and is the Moon Empress' favourite child, which probably contributes to his continued rule over the West while his other siblings think he might be nuts.

129.95.234.255 at 23:57, 13 June 2023

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	Surprisingly, he's on pretty decent terms with [[Greasus Goldtooth]], the two having met in a negotiation to allow Cathayan Caravans through his territory. The two had bonded over their not so great relationship with their dads and came to an agreement to allow Cathayan Caravans through the Goldtooth lands in exchange for a toll. It seems to be a pretty major friendship, as Zhao's faction in Total War Warhammer 3 comes with a factionwide army upkeep buff to Ogre Mercenaries. Gotta respect a guy who sees beyond appearances.		Surprisingly, he's on pretty decent terms with [[Greasus Goldtooth]], the two having met in a negotiation to allow Cathayan Caravans through his territory. The two had bonded over their not so great relationship with their dads and came to an agreement to allow Cathayan Caravans through the Goldtooth lands in exchange for a toll. It seems to be a pretty major friendship, as Zhao's faction in Total War Warhammer 3 comes with a factionwide army upkeep buff to Ogre Mercenaries. Gotta respect a guy who sees beyond appearances.

	Also worth pointing out is that this dude fuuucks. Seriously, one of Cathay's lord units is know as a "Dragon-Blooded Shugengan" and that Dragon-Blooded bit is not a metaphor: they are humans with dragon blood somewhere in their ancestry. Considering that Zhao is pretty much the only one of the dragon siblings who doesn't see humans as a step up from vermin we can assume that most of theses lords are his bastard children, and considering that you can recruit an unlimited number of them over a campaign wellll...		Also worth pointing out is that this dude fuuucks. Seriously, one of Cathay's lord units is know as a "Dragon-Blooded Shugengan" and that Dragon-Blooded bit is not a metaphor: they are humans with dragon blood somewhere in their ancestry. Considering that Zhao is pretty much the only one of the dragon siblings who doesn't see humans as a step up from vermin we can assume that most of theses lords are his bastard children or the descendants of bastard children, and considering that you can recruit an unlimited number of them over a campaign wellll...

	He also turns out to be a bit of a mamas boy and is the Moon Empress' favourite child, which probably contributes to his continued rule over the West while his other siblings think he might be nuts.		He also turns out to be a bit of a mamas boy and is the Moon Empress' favourite child, which probably contributes to his continued rule over the West while his other siblings think he might be nuts.

1d4chan>AzraelWalker at 23:47, 13 June 2023

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	Surprisingly, he's on pretty decent terms with [[Greasus Goldtooth]], the two having met in a negotiation to allow Cathayan Caravans through his territory. The two had bonded over their not so great relationship with their dads and came to an agreement to allow Cathayan Caravans through the Goldtooth lands in exchange for a toll. It seems to be a pretty major friendship, as Zhao's faction in Total War Warhammer 3 comes with a factionwide army upkeep buff to Ogre Mercenaries. Gotta respect a guy who sees beyond appearances.		Surprisingly, he's on pretty decent terms with [[Greasus Goldtooth]], the two having met in a negotiation to allow Cathayan Caravans through his territory. The two had bonded over their not so great relationship with their dads and came to an agreement to allow Cathayan Caravans through the Goldtooth lands in exchange for a toll. It seems to be a pretty major friendship, as Zhao's faction in Total War Warhammer 3 comes with a factionwide army upkeep buff to Ogre Mercenaries. Gotta respect a guy who sees beyond appearances.

			Also worth pointing out is that this dude fuuucks. Seriously, one of Cathay's lord units is know as a "Dragon-Blooded Shugengan" and that Dragon-Blooded bit is not a metaphor: they are humans with dragon blood somewhere in their ancestry. Considering that Zhao is pretty much the only one of the dragon siblings who doesn't see humans as a step up from vermin we can assume that most of theses lords are his bastard children, and considering that you can recruit an unlimited number of them over a campaign wellll...

	He also turns out to be a bit of a mamas boy and is the Moon Empress' favourite child, which probably contributes to his continued rule over the West while his other siblings think he might be nuts.		He also turns out to be a bit of a mamas boy and is the Moon Empress' favourite child, which probably contributes to his continued rule over the West while his other siblings think he might be nuts.

			==Chaos Corruption==
			Zhao has a subtle bit of characterization that hints to the fact that he may be beginning to fall to the corruptive effects of [[Chaos]]. While he is considered "eccentric" by his siblings, several of his voice lines suggest that he is beginning to hear voices and that they are becoming loud enough to cause him some level of distress. Combine that with the fact that he spends a lot of time around the [[Warpstone]] desert and that as an alchemist he has probally come into contact with a lot of Warpstone during his experiments and his eccentricity starts looking less like a personality trait and more like Chaos corruption. Which would be bad to say the least.

	==Tabletop Extrapolations==		==Tabletop Extrapolations==

2A02:1810:4E2C:A900:6160:277B:3094:F705 at 18:37, 6 May 2023

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	==Tabletop Extrapolations==		==Tabletop Extrapolations==

	While it probably be years before the Old World picks up steam enough to be able to feature Cathay and the Dragon siblings as units, one can extrapolate what kind of abilities Zhao Ming would bring to the tabletop. Thanks to Total War, we know three of these:		While it probably be years before the Old World picks up steam enough to be able to feature Cathay and the Dragon siblings as units, one can extrapolate what kind of abilities Zhao Ming would bring to the tabletop. Thanks to Total War, we know three of these:

	* Dragon Shapechange: A bit of a given, though it really begs the question whether Zhao (or any of his siblings) will start out in human form, or dragon.		* Dragon Shapechange: A bit of a given, though it really begs the question whether Zhao (or any of his siblings) will start out in human form, or dragon.

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	* Ward of Iron: Zhao's unique ability in Total War, which gives units surrounding Zhao a boost to their defense.		* Ward of Iron: Zhao's unique ability in Total War, which gives units surrounding Zhao a boost to their defense.

			*If Old world has an ally system, maybe the ability to take a few Ogre units in a kind of Age of Sigmar style coalition.

1d4chan>GreySeerCriak at 13:28, 30 November 2022

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	[[File:Zhao ming.jpg\|400px\|thumb\|right\|[[Total War: WARHAMMER\|What if Lo Pan was a cool dude who did cocaine?]]]]		[[File:Zhao ming.jpg\|400px\|thumb\|right\|[[Total War: WARHAMMER\|What if Lo Pan was a cool dude who did cocaine?]]]]
	Zhao Ming, also known as '''the Iron Dragon''', is one of the two legendary lords for [[Cathay]] in [[Total War: Warhammer\| Total War: Warhammer 3]] and one of the first playable Cathayan characters in any Warhammer setting.		Zhao Ming, also known as '''the Iron Dragon''', is one of the two legendary lords for [[Cathay]] in [[Total War: Warhammer\| Total War: Warhammer 3]] and one of the first playable Cathayan characters in any Warhammer setting. While the fan reaction wasn’t as overtly positive as [[PROMOTIONS\|his sister’s]], most of the fanbase has proven to be fond of Zhao’s appearance and lore.

	Zhao is the son of the Dragon Emperor and Moon Empress. While his parents chill above Wei-Jin, Zhao runs the Western Provinces of Cathay from the city of Shang-Yang, which borders the Mountains of Mourn and as such has to deal with incursions of Skaven and Ogres; with him fending off such incursions with the aid of his army, plus his mastery of metal and yang magic, and the occasional bout of fire breath courtesy of his dragon form. However, being on the entry-point to Cathay he also sees the travellers and traders that make it from the west, with permanent embassies from the Empire, Estalia and Tilea.		Zhao is the son of the Dragon Emperor and Moon Empress. While his parents chill above Wei-Jin, Zhao runs the Western Provinces of Cathay from the city of Shang-Yang, which borders the Mountains of Mourn and as such has to deal with incursions of Skaven and Ogres; with him fending off such incursions with the aid of his army, plus his mastery of metal and yang magic, and the occasional bout of fire breath courtesy of his dragon form. However, being on the entry-point to Cathay he also sees the travellers and traders that make it from the west, with permanent embassies from the Empire, Estalia and Tilea.

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	Zhao Ming holds great skill in alchemy and likes to integrate it into his armies. He welcomes mages of all kinds, which causes his siblings to worry about his mental stability due to his proximity to the Great Maw, especially when he comes under a moment of eccentricity. This eccentricity is actually treating the people he leads as actual human beings with value and not simply viewing himself as above them unlike the rest of his family, so take it with a grain of salt. He is not exactly on good terms with his older sister [[Miao Ying]], and is often offended by her aloofness when they and their other three siblings meet.		Zhao Ming holds great skill in alchemy and likes to integrate it into his armies. He welcomes mages of all kinds, which causes his siblings to worry about his mental stability due to his proximity to the Great Maw, especially when he comes under a moment of eccentricity. This eccentricity is actually treating the people he leads as actual human beings with value and not simply viewing himself as above them unlike the rest of his family, so take it with a grain of salt. He is not exactly on good terms with his older sister [[Miao Ying]], and is often offended by her aloofness when they and their other three siblings meet.

	Surprisingly, he's on pretty decent terms with [[Greasus Goldtooth]], the two having met in a negotiation to allow Cathayan Caravans through his territory. The two had bonded over their not so great relationship with their dads and came to an agreement to allow Cathayan Caravans through the Goldtooth lands in exchange for a toll. It seems to be a pretty major friendship, as Zhao's faction in Total War Warhammer 3 comes with a factionwide army upkeep buff to Ogre Mercenaries.		Surprisingly, he's on pretty decent terms with [[Greasus Goldtooth]], the two having met in a negotiation to allow Cathayan Caravans through his territory. The two had bonded over their not so great relationship with their dads and came to an agreement to allow Cathayan Caravans through the Goldtooth lands in exchange for a toll. It seems to be a pretty major friendship, as Zhao's faction in Total War Warhammer 3 comes with a factionwide army upkeep buff to Ogre Mercenaries. Gotta respect a guy who sees beyond appearances.

	He also turns out to be a bit of a mamas boy and is the Moon Empress' favourite child, which probably contributes to his continued rule over the West while his other siblings think he might be nuts.		He also turns out to be a bit of a mamas boy and is the Moon Empress' favourite child, which probably contributes to his continued rule over the West while his other siblings think he might be nuts.