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'''-4 Str''' is a [[meme]] and [[Troll|trollbait]] from [[/tg/]]. The term is used as a shorthand way of saying that all women -- especially [[adventurers]] -- are significantly weaker than men, and ought to take a -4 modifier to their [[Stat|strength]] score. One can guarantee that by invoking these words, a [[musclegirl]] image dump or a stupid argument on whether or not real-life sexual dimorphism is significant enough to stat out will ensue (sometimes both). In any case, it's not worth taking seriously, whether the offending (haw) poster [[/pol/|actually thinks it should be]] or not.


==History==
Though its origins are shrouded in mystery, some evidence has come along to point to -4 Str's beginnings, or at least a very similar concept.
:An oldfag says: ''"This meme is at least as old as 1978. Check page 15 of [[Advanced Dungeons & Dragons|1st ed. AD&D]]: a table for racial min/max for each stat and gender, but the only real difference is -1 Str for femme [[Dwarf|Dwarves]], -2 Str for femme [[Elf|Elves]], -3 Str for femme [[Gnome]]s and [[Halfling]]s. All the other stats -- Int, Wis, Dex, Con, Chr -- are the same for both genders. Cue feminazi bashing of [[Gary Gygax]]."''
==See Also:==
*[[Katanas are Underpowered in d20#Women are Underpowered in D20|Women are Underpowered in d20]]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_records_in_athletics List of world records in athletics]
*Comparable weight classes in the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_world_records_in_Olympic_weightlifting list of world records in weightlifting]
*[[Female Fantasy Armor]]
==Gallery==
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Image:AD&D page16.png|1st Ed D&D; the origin of the meme?
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[[Category:Meme]]

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