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'''-4 Str''' is a [[meme]] from [[/tg/]]. The term is used as a shorthand way of saying that all women -- especially [[adventurers]] -- are significantly weaker than men, and ought to take a -4 modifier to their [[Stat|strength]] score. | |||
'''-4 Str''' is a [[meme | |||
==History== | ==History== | ||
Though its origins are shrouded in mystery, some evidence has come along to point to -4 Str's beginnings, or at least a very similar concept. | Though its origins are shrouded in mystery, some evidence has come along to point to -4 Str's beginnings, or at least a very similar concept. | ||
:An oldfag says: ''"This meme is at least as old as 1978. Check page 15 of [[Advanced Dungeons & Dragons|1st ed. AD&D]]: a table for racial min/max for each stat and gender, but the only real difference is -1 Str for femme Dwarves, -2 Str for femme Elves, -3 Str for femme | :An oldfag says: ''"This meme is at least as old as 1978. Check page 15 of [[Advanced Dungeons & Dragons|1st ed. AD&D]]: a table for racial min/max for each stat and gender, but the only real difference is -1 Str for femme [[Dwarf|Dwarves]], -2 Str for femme [[Elf|Elves]], -3 Str for femme [[Gnome]]s and [[Halfling]]s. All the other stats -- Int, Wis, Dex, Con, Chr -- are the same for both genders. Cue bashing of [[Gary Gygax]]."'' | ||
There ''are'' other differences than the list above, like female humans only getting up to 18/50 Strength where male humans can reach the max cap of 18/100. | |||
==See Also:== | ==See Also:== | ||
*[[ | *[[Katanas are Underpowered in d20#Women are Underpowered in D20|Women are Underpowered in d20]] | ||
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_records_in_athletics List of world records in athletics] | |||
==Gallery== | ==Gallery== | ||
<gallery> | <gallery> | ||
Image:AD&D page16.png|1st Ed D&D; the origin of the meme? | Image:AD&D page16.png|1st Ed D&D; the origin of the meme? | ||
</gallery> | </gallery> | ||
[[Category:Meme]] | [[Category:Meme]] | ||
Latest revision as of 16:04, 21 May 2026
-4 Str is a meme from /tg/. The term is used as a shorthand way of saying that all women -- especially adventurers -- are significantly weaker than men, and ought to take a -4 modifier to their strength score.
History[edit | edit source]
Though its origins are shrouded in mystery, some evidence has come along to point to -4 Str's beginnings, or at least a very similar concept.
- An oldfag says: "This meme is at least as old as 1978. Check page 15 of 1st ed. AD&D: a table for racial min/max for each stat and gender, but the only real difference is -1 Str for femme Dwarves, -2 Str for femme Elves, -3 Str for femme Gnomes and Halflings. All the other stats -- Int, Wis, Dex, Con, Chr -- are the same for both genders. Cue bashing of Gary Gygax."
There are other differences than the list above, like female humans only getting up to 18/50 Strength where male humans can reach the max cap of 18/100.
See Also:[edit | edit source]
Gallery[edit | edit source]
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1st Ed D&D; the origin of the meme?
