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===Contact with the Team===
===Contact with the Team===
thenightaflame@gmail.com if you're interested in joining the effort.  Content here will be mirrored at warsword20t.blogger.com (I'll get authorship rights to those on the core team).
thenightaflame@gmail.com if you're interested in joining the effort.  Content here will be mirrored at warsword20t.blogspot.com (I'll get authorship rights to those on the core team).
(anyone else who wants to add their contact info here, feel free)
(anyone else who wants to add their contact info here, feel free)


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1. Wound Allocation
1. Wound Allocation
2. Points level for Tournament play
2. Points level for Tournament play
3. Heavy/special weapons forced to fire at same thing as rest of unit
3. Heavy/special weapons forced to fire at same thing as rest of unit
4. Lack of scenarios
4. Lack of scenarios
5.TLOS
6. Capping unit losses by visible enemies from shooting unit.


=== Space Knights Rules Bitching ===
=== Space Knights Rules Bitching ===


1. Rhino cost
1. Rhino cost
2. Lack of love for Black Crusaders and Shadowy Angels compared to Space Vikings, Space Vampires, and Blue Ubermarines
2. Lack of love for Black Crusaders and Shadowy Angels compared to Space Vikings, Space Vampires, and Blue Ubermarines


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1. Codex: Devils not incorporated into overall Corrupted codex.
1. Codex: Devils not incorporated into overall Corrupted codex.
2. Spawn sucks
2. Spawn sucks
3. See 1 for the Eye of Scary codex as well
3. See 1 for the Eye of Scary codex as well


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1. Carnvorex needs to not suck
1. Carnvorex needs to not suck
2. Ditto for tyrannosaurex (Lower point cost?)
2. Ditto for tyrannosaurex (Lower point cost?)
3. Pyrobeast needs to not suck (longer range probably)
3. Pyrobeast needs to not suck (longer range probably)
4. Alpha warrior needs to be able to ride in Squishy Transport Pod
4. Alpha warrior needs to be able to ride in Squishy Transport Pod


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1. BS 4 Flame Warriors
1. BS 4 Flame Warriors
2. drones don't count towards 25% casualties for checks
2. drones don't count towards 25% casualties for checks
3. Suits aren't elite, or at least have larger squad sizes
3. Suits aren't elite, or at least have larger squad sizes
4. Bugmen need to not suck.
4. Bugmen need to not suck.
5. Octopus Transport isn't mandatory for Paizofinders.
5. Octopus Transport isn't mandatory for Paizofinders.
6. Rail rules from 6th ed "leak"?
6. Rail rules from 6th ed "leak"?


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1. Cost increases across the board, notably for psycannon ammo
1. Cost increases across the board, notably for psycannon ammo
2. What Plasma Siphon?
2. What Plasma Siphon?



Latest revision as of 16:58, 23 June 2023

In the GrimDarkness of a long time ago in a galaxy far, far, away, there is an unfunny writefag trying to fix complete grimderp.

The Idea[edit | edit source]

Take the core rules of Warhammer 40k and tweak them into something that is balanced. Replace the Fluff (which we can't keep anyway) with something that approaches making sense but still has an ubergothic feel to it, and has the possibility of some day actually moving forward. To maybe generate a small enough amount of money off of this so it can be self-supporting (paying for hosting, maybe actually some artwork for the releases, promotion, and the like).

Contact with the Team[edit | edit source]

thenightaflame@gmail.com if you're interested in joining the effort. Content here will be mirrored at warsword20t.blogspot.com (I'll get authorship rights to those on the core team). (anyone else who wants to add their contact info here, feel free)

Hilskum@gmail.com - Dark Eldar guy

Want to Help Without Joining the Team?[edit | edit source]

If you like the idea of creating a game that is mostly 40k, but without the most annoying issues of 40k, we need your input and once we start pumping out variations on the rules, we need play testers.

  • Input
    • messages with general comments, gripes, bitching, moaning, whining, and informing me exactly how I'm stupid can be sent to thenightaflame@gmail.com -- I would prefer you actually send useful information such as your ideas on what needs to be changed as why, but this is the interent
    • complaints about specific rules in 40k can be

Fluffy shit[edit | edit source]

Space Knights[edit | edit source]

Followers of new-age space jesus. Through his teachings, believe that they are the natrual evolution of humanity into a better state. As such, they are looking to spread their empire into space as far as they can. They believe that anything that even remotely threatens humanity, such as the normally non-confrontational Takun empire, should be destroyed before they can restrict humanity. This actually started most of the TaKun's hostilities with other races, although the man in charge of the chapter that initiated the attack believes it was entirely justified.

The Corrupted[edit | edit source]

Like their normal counterparts, believe in the advancement of humanity. However, purity has been forsaken in the pursuit of becoming competely perfect and indestroyable. They will not consider themselves completely advanced until they have killed off anything in the universe that isn't them or at least attempting to perfect themselves through the chaos deities. To further drive in the SPAAACE JESUSSSSSS references and to save our asses from the lawyers, there are 7 chaos gods, each for a sin. NotKhorne and notSlaneesh are still responsible for wrath and lust, while notNurgle is a representation of gluttony (disease consuming all in it's path) and notTzneech is a representation of pride (constantly changing oneself and the world around them in order for it to be perfect idk). There could possibly be minor rule variants for what your units were before turning to chaos, but they're mostly the same.

(I'll admit I added the last part in because the lack of anything chaos besides space marines is stupid to me)

Humans[edit | edit source]

Human society originally spread out across the stars to help decrease overpopulation, and then they ended up accidentally pissing off every single force in the galaxy. They butt heads with the not space marines on occasion because they aren't anywhere near to the level of perfection the not space marines are at, and in their piddly efforts to survive, occasionally piss them the fuck off. However, the earth is neutral ground, since it is the birthplace of humanity.

Elves[edit | edit source]

Like regular elves, but in space. Also they're dying out because literally everyone is fucking with the natural order CALM DOWN GUYS YOU ARE DESTROYING THE ECOSYSTEMS OF THESE PRECIOUS PLANETS!!!

Dark Elves (Drow???)[edit | edit source]

Like regular space elves, except they figured that the regular elves were also pussies. Also they are loosely allied with the corruption, but only in the sense that they exhibit all of their traits without actually being mutated past their normal forms.

Roks[edit | edit source]

Mean green rock machines. No literally, they're like rocks and moss, except with brains and guns. How do rocks even make guns?

Osirians[edit | edit source]

Skeleton people who oversee the universe. A few of them met some humans forever ago. As the unofficial guardians of the universe, they hate EVERYONE listed here with a passion. They are not above allying themselves with other groups if it means the prevention of the destruction of the universe.

The Swarm[edit | edit source]

OH MY GOD WHERE DID THEY COME FROM WHY DO THEY HAVE ARMOR OH GOD OH GOD NO PLEASE I POOP FROM THERE

Notau[edit | edit source]

Wait, that name works a little. Not enough to stop the lawsuits, but just enough. They want the worlds to unite. And if that fails, they'll just blow the fuck out of people who would stop them. Notice that since everyone hates each other, they want to blow the fuck out of everyone. Their involvement in all this conflict is entirely the fault of the space knights, and they should feel bad.

Fire-dykes[edit | edit source]

Once upon a time, a planet of feminists gained super-powers. These are their stories.

Not Grey Knights?[edit | edit source]

A little redundant since SPHEES MARHEENS are knights too, but whatever. Not sure if they count as people.

Other faggots[edit | edit source]

Hell if I know


The Bitching List[edit | edit source]

Rough order of rules you have issues with in descending order of magnitude. Organized by faction. Initial list probably sucks and so you should get off your ass and help make it better. Eventually these will be worked on to resolve them and make WarSword 20T suck less than it's progenitor.

General Rules[edit | edit source]

1. Wound Allocation

2. Points level for Tournament play

3. Heavy/special weapons forced to fire at same thing as rest of unit

4. Lack of scenarios

5.TLOS

6. Capping unit losses by visible enemies from shooting unit.

Space Knights Rules Bitching[edit | edit source]

1. Rhino cost

2. Lack of love for Black Crusaders and Shadowy Angels compared to Space Vikings, Space Vampires, and Blue Ubermarines

The Corrupted Rules Bitching[edit | edit source]

1. Codex: Devils not incorporated into overall Corrupted codex.

2. Spawn sucks

3. See 1 for the Eye of Scary codex as well

Humans Rules Bitching[edit | edit source]

1. Buff Deathwhack missile launcher for non-Armageddon play

Elves Rules Bitching[edit | edit source]

1. Buff Ghostbot squad/drop cost or something

Dark Elves (Drow???) Rules Bitching[edit | edit source]

(Honestly don't know any issues with them. Maybe fix Venom spam?)

Roks Rules Bitching[edit | edit source]

1. Warbuggy needs to not suck or at least be viable

Osirians Rules Bitching[edit | edit source]

(Again, dunno any issues here)

The Swarm Rules Bitching[edit | edit source]

1. Carnvorex needs to not suck

2. Ditto for tyrannosaurex (Lower point cost?)

3. Pyrobeast needs to not suck (longer range probably)

4. Alpha warrior needs to be able to ride in Squishy Transport Pod

Notau Rules Bitching[edit | edit source]

1. BS 4 Flame Warriors

2. drones don't count towards 25% casualties for checks

3. Suits aren't elite, or at least have larger squad sizes

4. Bugmen need to not suck.

5. Octopus Transport isn't mandatory for Paizofinders.

6. Rail rules from 6th ed "leak"?

Not Fire-dykes Rules Bitching[edit | edit source]

1. The entire damn codex.

Not Grey Knights? Rules Bitching[edit | edit source]

1. Cost increases across the board, notably for psycannon ammo

2. What Plasma Siphon?

Other faggots Rules Bitching[edit | edit source]

(Dunno if there were any left out. Maybe add an AdMech faction or somesuch?)