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'''The GRAND DAD EMPIRE''' ARE a prolific [[VINESAUCE]]-centric MEME group based in BEDROCK CITY. Their largest periods of activity seemed to be around the time SILVAGUNNER was terminated, when they were hosting several unofficial VINESAUCE gaming events (which they assure you repeatedly are ''not'' official Tournaments and are in no way affiliated with [[JOEL]]).
{{topquote|If there is anything I have learned in my travels across the Planes, it is that many things may change the nature of a man. Whether regret, or love, or revenge or fear - whatever you ''believe'' can change the nature of a man, can. I’ve seen belief move cities, make men stave off death, and turn an evil hag's heart half-circle. This entire Fortress has been constructed from belief. Belief damned a woman, whose heart clung to the hope that another loved her when he did not. Once, it made a man seek immortality and achieve it. And it has made a posturing spirit think it is something more than a part of me.|The Nameless One, ''[[Planescape: Torment]]''}}
What is [[Magic]]? Well one way it's framed is being the opposite of Science. A [[wizard]] casting a levitation spell or a [[Dragon|20 meter long armored reptile flying about shooting fire from it's mouth without burning it's jaws off]] or a [[Golem|animated clay statue]] is something which operates outside the laws of physics as we know them. But here's the thing, in another world where things are different magic could be just another set of natural laws which can be observed, experimented on and repeatable results and predictions can be made to expand one's understanding of the nature of Magic. In that case, the study of Magic eventually becomes just another school of scientific thought. Probably one with a lot of rituals and fancy ornaments (ranging from really important to the work to "we like to make a big show of things"), but Scientific none-the-less. Many fantasy worlds have made very good use of this outlook of things one way or another, but there are those which want to avoid it.


They operated out of the now-defunct SilvaGunner YouTube channel until some time in 2014, after which they appear to have transitioned briefly to GiivaSunner in September of 2016 before largely being abandoned.
One of the most popular ways to get around this is the idea of '''Belief Function'''. If you drop an object on Earth in a vacuum it will accelerate at 9.8 meters per second per second towards the planet's center until it hits ground. You can rant and rave about how Issac Newton was an idiot and his ideas are hogwash all you want, believe that this is not the case in the depths of your soul and plead and pray for this not to be the case with all your heart, the rock will still fall in accordance with the laws of gravity. The Universe does not care what you believe, it simply is. In a world with Belief Function, things are different. Reality is shaped to some degree or another by what people believe, especially in aggregate. In those worlds enough belief can disrupt that constant, or create someone who intervenes to do so.


== Forums ==
A related concept with a lot of crossover to Belief Function is Emotion Function, in which magic is dependent on the Emotional State of the person wielding it and emotions can have an impact on reality.
The original forums appeared to function as four services: preparation and communication in service of coming events, discussion about new HIGH-QUALITY RIPS, MEME showcase, and general VINESAUCE or unrelated discussion.
== Examples of Belief Function  ==
* [[Discworld]]: Belief is a powerful force. The Gods exist due to belief and wither away once belief in them fails.
* [[Glorantha]]
* [[Planescape]]
* [[White Wolf]]'s Technocracy is built around Belief Function
* [[Warhammer]] (Both Fantasy and 40k)
* In real life, "Global Consciousness" was a theory in quantum mechanics that perception and consciousness could influence the behavior of quantum particles, and thus having everyone around the world thinking the same thing could affect reality itself. This theory has since been debunked, which is honestly [[Warp|a very good thing when you think about it.]]


== Events ==
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The VINESAUCE gaming events that The GRAND DAD Fugitives held were known for being diverse and involved, due in large part to their incredibly strong homebrew scene.  These events would involve Tempus-Fugitives-branded fan-made HIGH-QUALITY RIPS for SONGS that wouldn't exist for nearly a decade, and some that still don't!  They also hosted some of the first KING FOR ANOTHER DAY tournaments, with fan HIGH-QUALITY RIPS.
[[category: Fantasy]]
 
In later years, an event known as Fugitive Fest was hosting play sessions for [[GRAND DAD Fantasy]], [[KING FOR ANOTHER DAY]], [[GRANDmachine]], [[HE THICC]], and [[MEME Wars]], as of 2019.
 
== HIGH-QUALITY RIPS and MEMES == Some HIGH-QUALITY RIPS appear to have seen releases or updates in 5th and 6th edition.  Note that The GRAND DAD Fugitives seem to have been most active between 2007 and 2013.
 
* GRAND DAD 2: SPASTIC BOOGALOO
* GRAND DAD: The Gauntlet of ASS (SANS, PAPYRUS, SPONGE, HE THICC, and SMOL NOZOMI)
* '''GRAND DAD''' 3: GRAND DAD IS GOD
 
GRAND DAD IS LOVE
GRAND DAD IS LIFE
GRAND DAD WILL CONQUER THIS WIKI
FOR MEMES
FOR VINESAUCE
AND FOR
SILVAGUNNER
 
[[Category: Memes]][[Category: GRAND DAD]][[Category: GRAND DAD Fantasy]]

Latest revision as of 23:09, 17 June 2023

"If there is anything I have learned in my travels across the Planes, it is that many things may change the nature of a man. Whether regret, or love, or revenge or fear - whatever you believe can change the nature of a man, can. I’ve seen belief move cities, make men stave off death, and turn an evil hag's heart half-circle. This entire Fortress has been constructed from belief. Belief damned a woman, whose heart clung to the hope that another loved her when he did not. Once, it made a man seek immortality and achieve it. And it has made a posturing spirit think it is something more than a part of me."

– The Nameless One, Planescape: Torment

What is Magic? Well one way it's framed is being the opposite of Science. A wizard casting a levitation spell or a 20 meter long armored reptile flying about shooting fire from it's mouth without burning it's jaws off or a animated clay statue is something which operates outside the laws of physics as we know them. But here's the thing, in another world where things are different magic could be just another set of natural laws which can be observed, experimented on and repeatable results and predictions can be made to expand one's understanding of the nature of Magic. In that case, the study of Magic eventually becomes just another school of scientific thought. Probably one with a lot of rituals and fancy ornaments (ranging from really important to the work to "we like to make a big show of things"), but Scientific none-the-less. Many fantasy worlds have made very good use of this outlook of things one way or another, but there are those which want to avoid it.

One of the most popular ways to get around this is the idea of Belief Function. If you drop an object on Earth in a vacuum it will accelerate at 9.8 meters per second per second towards the planet's center until it hits ground. You can rant and rave about how Issac Newton was an idiot and his ideas are hogwash all you want, believe that this is not the case in the depths of your soul and plead and pray for this not to be the case with all your heart, the rock will still fall in accordance with the laws of gravity. The Universe does not care what you believe, it simply is. In a world with Belief Function, things are different. Reality is shaped to some degree or another by what people believe, especially in aggregate. In those worlds enough belief can disrupt that constant, or create someone who intervenes to do so.

A related concept with a lot of crossover to Belief Function is Emotion Function, in which magic is dependent on the Emotional State of the person wielding it and emotions can have an impact on reality.

Examples of Belief Function[edit | edit source]

  • Discworld: Belief is a powerful force. The Gods exist due to belief and wither away once belief in them fails.
  • Glorantha
  • Planescape
  • White Wolf's Technocracy is built around Belief Function
  • Warhammer (Both Fantasy and 40k)
  • In real life, "Global Consciousness" was a theory in quantum mechanics that perception and consciousness could influence the behavior of quantum particles, and thus having everyone around the world thinking the same thing could affect reality itself. This theory has since been debunked, which is honestly a very good thing when you think about it.
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