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[[Category:Meme]]
'''-4 Str''' is a [[meme]] from [[/tg/]]. The term is used as a shorthand way of saying that all women -- especially [[adventurers]] -- are significantly weaker than men, and ought to take a -4 modifier to their [[Stat|strength]] score.
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The absolutely correct belief that all women, especially adventurers, are significantly weaker than men, thereby taking a -4 modifier to their strength score. One can guarantee that by invoking these words a musclegirl image dump will ensue <s>making it the ''only'' good reason to use this pathetic meme</s>  <s>which will bring the sick sexual deviants out of the woodwork</s>  Your fetish is not my fetish, and thank the gods for that.


;What to do if a musclegirl dump is poluting your /tg/
==History==
:Counter musclegirl image dump with Encyclopaedia Dramatica's Women page. Showing the universal truth of female inferiority to those miserable deviants.
Though its origins are shrouded in mystery, some evidence has come along to point to -4 Str's beginnings, or at least a very similar concept.
:An oldfag says: ''"This meme is at least as old as 1978. Check page 15 of [[Advanced Dungeons & Dragons|1st ed. AD&D]]: a table for racial min/max for each stat and gender, but the only real difference is -1 Str for femme [[Dwarf|Dwarves]], -2 Str for femme [[Elf|Elves]], -3 Str for femme [[Gnome]]s and [[Halfling]]s. All the other stats -- Int, Wis, Dex, Con, Chr -- are the same for both genders. Cue bashing of [[Gary Gygax]]."''


This meme probably came from [[FATAL]] or something.
There ''are'' other differences than the list above, like female humans only getting up to 18/50 Strength where male humans can reach the max cap of 18/100.
:An oldfag says: ''"This meme is at least as old as 1978. Check page 15 of [[Advanced Dungeons & Dragons|1st ed. AD&D]]: a table for racial min/max for each stat and gender, but the only real difference is -1 Str for femme Dwarves, -2 Str for femme Elves, -3 Str for femme Gnomes and Halflings.  All the other stats -- Int, Wis, Dex, Con, Chr -- are the same for both genders.  Cue feminazi bashing of Gary Gygax."''


* See also: [[Katanas_are_Underpowered_in_d20#Women_are_Underpowered_in_D20|Women are Underpowered in d20]]
==See Also:==
*[[Katanas are Underpowered in d20#Women are Underpowered in D20|Women are Underpowered in d20]]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_records_in_athletics List of world records in athletics]


==Gallery==
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Image:No -4 STR.jpg|"ah-ha-ha-ha NO."
Image:-4_Strength.JPG|A wild musclegirl appears! Wat do?
Image:-4strbawwderp.JPG|A popular image for posting in -4 str threads.
Image:AD&D page16.png|1st Ed D&D; the origin of the meme?
Image:AD&D page16.png|1st Ed D&D; the origin of the meme?
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[[Category:Meme]]

Latest revision as of 16:04, 21 May 2026

-4 Str is a meme from /tg/. The term is used as a shorthand way of saying that all women -- especially adventurers -- are significantly weaker than men, and ought to take a -4 modifier to their strength score.

History[edit | edit source]

Though its origins are shrouded in mystery, some evidence has come along to point to -4 Str's beginnings, or at least a very similar concept.

An oldfag says: "This meme is at least as old as 1978. Check page 15 of 1st ed. AD&D: a table for racial min/max for each stat and gender, but the only real difference is -1 Str for femme Dwarves, -2 Str for femme Elves, -3 Str for femme Gnomes and Halflings. All the other stats -- Int, Wis, Dex, Con, Chr -- are the same for both genders. Cue bashing of Gary Gygax."

There are other differences than the list above, like female humans only getting up to 18/50 Strength where male humans can reach the max cap of 18/100.

See Also:[edit | edit source]

Gallery[edit | edit source]

  • 1st Ed D&D; the origin of the meme?
    1st Ed D&D; the origin of the meme?
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