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'''-4 Str''' is a [[meme]] and [[Troll|trollbait]] from [[/tg/]]. The term is used as a shorthand way of saying that all women -- especially [[adventurers]] -- are significantly weaker than men, and ought to take a -4 modifier to their [[Stat|strength]] score. One can guarantee that by invoking these words a musclegirl image dump (such as the one on this page) or a stupid argument (such as this page) will ensue, sometimes both (example: this page).
==History==
Though its origins are shrouded in mystery, some evidence has come along to point to -4 Str's beginnings, or at least a very similar concept.
:An oldfag says: ''"This meme is at least as old as 1978. Check page 15 of [[Advanced Dungeons & Dragons|1st ed. AD&D]]: a table for racial min/max for each stat and gender, but the only real difference is -1 Str for femme Dwarves, -2 Str for femme Elves, -3 Str for femme Gnomes and Halflings. All the other stats -- Int, Wis, Dex, Con, Chr -- are the same for both genders. Cue feminazi bashing of [[Gary Gygax]]."''
==See Also:==
*[[Katanas_are_Underpowered_in_d20#Women_are_Underpowered_in_D20|Women are Underpowered in d20]]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_records_in_athletics List of world records in athletics]
*Comparable weight classes in the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_world_records_in_Olympic_weightlifting list of world records in weightlifting]
*[[Female Fantasy Armor]]
==Gallery==
<gallery>
Image:No -4 STR.jpg|"ah-ha-ha-ha NO."
Image:-4_Strength.JPG|A wild musclegirl appears! Wat do?
Image:-4strbawwderp.JPG|A popular image for posting in -4 str threads.
Image:AD&D page16.png|1st Ed D&D; the origin of the meme?
Image:Minus4strbanned.png|Who says there are no [[mods]] in /tg/?
</gallery>

Latest revision as of 23:52, 10 February 2026