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'''THE GRAND DAD EMPIRE''' ARE a prolific VINESAUCE-centric MEME group based in BEDROCK CITY.  Their largest periods of activity seemed to be around the time SILVAGUNNER was terminated, when they were hosting several unofficial VINESAUCE gaming events (which they assure you repeatedly are ''not'' official Tournaments and are in no way affiliated with JOEL).
Here is a list of all armies that have been part of the many "[[Warhammer]]" settings, and in how many of them they're playable.  


They operated out of the SilvaGunner YouTube channel until it was terminated in 2014, after which they appear to have transitioned briefly to GiivaSunner in September of 2016 before returning to SilvaGunner in June of 2018.
'''Disclaimer''': This list takes into account the rules, not the models. For example, all elf models can be used on eldar lists as "count as", and viceversa, but that doesn't mean they have similar rules. This list is more interested in armies that keep similar rules and named units in all settings.
*To make things easier, some factions that share a lot of similarities will be counted together. The one exception will be orc(k)s in general, due to all of them being wildly different in each setting.
*Also, this list doesn't take into account the smaller specialist games, such as [[Kill Team (Specialist Game)|Kill Team]], [[Warcry]], [[Warhammer Underworlds]] or [[Bloodbowl]]. Thus, their exclusive factions are not included here.
*While the list of the playable armies in WTOW will be almost identical, if not 100% identical to the old WHFB armies, we'll keep the TBD tag until we get official confirmation. The only exeption will be the armies that won't make sense being there (aka, the 40k ones).


== CHANNELS ==
==The List==
The original forums appeared to function as four services: preparation and communication in service of coming events, discussion about new HIGH-QUALITY RIPS, MEME showcase, and general VINESAUCE or unrelated discussion.


{{awesome}}== EVENTS ==
{| class="wikitable"
The VINESAUCE MEME events that The GRAND DAD EMPIRE held were known for being diverse and involved, due in large part to their incredibly strong YTP scene. These events would involve VINESAUCE-branded fan-made HIGH-QUALITY RIPS for SONGS that wouldn't exist for nearly a decade, and some that still don't!  They also hosted some of the first KING FOR ANOTHER DAY tournaments, with fan HIGH-QUALITY RIPS.
|-
! Army
! [[Warhammer 40,000]] (40K)
! [[Horus Heresy]] (30k)
! [[Warhammer Fantasy Battle]] (WHFB)
! [[Age of Sigmar|Warhammer: Age of Sigmar]] (AoS)
! [[Warhammer: The Old World]] (WTOW)
! Total games playable.
|-
| [[Space Marines]] ("Codex" SM, [[Deathwatch|DW]], [[Grey Knights|GK]], [[Blood Angels|BA]], [[Space Wolves|SW]], [[Dark Angels|DA]])
| Playable
| Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| 2 (1 for DW/GK)


In later years, an event known as GRAND FEST was hosting PREMIERES for GRAND DAD Fantasy, KING FOR ANOTHER DAY, GRANDmachine, HE THICC 69, and MEME Wars, as of 2019.
|-
| [[Imperial Guard]] (AM, [[Tempestus Scions| Scions]], first half of Militia and Cults)
| Playable
| Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| 2


== HIGH-QUALITY RIPS and MEMES ==
|-
Some HIGH-QUALITY RIPS appear to have seen releases or updates in 5th and 6th edition.  Note that The GRAND DAD EMPIRE seem to have been most active between 2012 and 2019.
| [[Solar Auxilia]]
| Non Playable
| Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
|1


* GRAND DAD 2: SPASTIC BOOGALOO
|-
* GRAND DAD 3: THE GAUNTLET OF ASS (FEATURING SMOL NOZOMI, TITO DICKMAN, SPONGE, HE THICC, and SANS UNDERTALE)  
| [[Adeptus Mechanicus]] (AdMech/Mechanicum)
* GRAND DAD 4: GRAND DAD IS GOD
| Playable
* GRAND DAD 5: DEATH TO 1D4CHAN
| Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| 2


GRAND DAD IS LOVE
|-
GRAND DAD IS LIFE
| [[Imperial Knight|Imperial Knights]] (IK)
GRAND DAD WILL CONQUER THIS WIKI
| Playable
FOR MEMES
| Playable
FOR VINESAUCE
| Non Playable
AND FOR
| Non Playable
SILVAGUNNER
| Non Playable
[[Category: Meme]][[Category: GRAND DAD]][[Category: GRAND DAD Fantasy]][[Category: Awesome]]
| 2
 
|-
| [[Adeptus Titanicus|Adeptus Titanicus]] (Titans)
| Playable
| Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| 2
 
|-
| [[Sisters of Battle]]/[[Ecclesiarchy|Adeptus Ministorum]] (SoB)
| Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| 1
 
|-
| Talons of the Emperor ([[Adeptus Custodes|AC]], [[Sisters of Silence|SoS]])
| Playable
| Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| 2
 
|-
| [[Officio Assassinorum]]
| Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| 1
 
|-
| [[Inquisition]] (Inq)
| Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| 1
 
|-
| [[Squats]]
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| 0
 
|-
| [[Chaos Space Marines]] (CSM, [[Death Guard|DG]], [[Thousand Sons|TS]], Traitor legions)
| Playable
| Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| 2
 
|-
| [[Chaos Daemons]] (CD)
| Playable
| Playable
| Playable
| See Alliance: Chaos
| TBD
| 4
 
|-
| [[Chaos Knight|Renegade Knights]] (RK)
| Playable
| Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| 2
 
|-
| [[Lost and the Damned|Lost and Dammned]] (Renegades and Heretics, second half of Militia and Cults)
| Playable
| Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| 2
 
|-
| [[Eldar]] (Cr, [[Dark Eldar|DE]], [[Harlequins|Har]], [[Ynnari]])
| Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| 1
 
|-
| [[Tyranids]] (Nids, [[Genestealers|GSC]])
| Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| 1
 
|-
| [[Necrons]] (Nec)
| Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| 1
 
|-
| [[Orks]]
| Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| 1
 
|-
| [[Tau]]
| Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| 1
 
|-
| [[The Empire (Warhammer Fantasy)|Empire of Man]]
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Playable
| See Alliance: Order
| TBD
| 2
 
|-
| [[Bretonnia]]
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Playable
| See Alliance: Order
| TBD
| 2
 
|-
| [[Kislev]]
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Playable
| Non Playable
| Confirmed
| 2
 
|-
| Elves ([[High Elves (Warhammer Fantasy)|HE]], [[Dark Elves (Warhammer Fantasy)|DE]], [[Wood Elves (Warhammer Fantasy)|WE]])
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Playable
| See Alliance: Order
| TBD
| 2
 
|-
| [[Dwarfs (Warhammer Fantasy)|Dwarves]]
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Playable
| See Alliance: Order
| TBD
| 2
 
|-
| [[Tomb Kings]]
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Playable
| See Alliance: Death
| TBD
| 2
 
|-
| [[Vampire Counts]]
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Playable
| See Alliance: Death
| TBD
| 2
 
|-
| [[Lizardmen]]/Seraphon
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Playable
| See Alliance: Order
| TBD
| 2
 
|-
| [[Orcs & Goblins]]
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Playable
| See Alliance: Destructuon
| TBD
| 2
 
|-
| [[Ogre Kingdoms|Ogres]]
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Playable
| See Alliance: Destructuon
| TBD
| 2
 
|-
| [[Warriors of Chaos]]
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Playable
| See Alliance: Chaos
| TBD
| 2
 
|-
| [[Chaos Dwarves]]
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Playable
| See Alliance: Chaos
| TBD
| 2
 
|-
| [[Beastmen]]
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Playable
| See Alliance: Chaos
| TBD
| 2
 
|-
| [[Skaven]]
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Playable
| See Alliance: Chaos
| TBD
| 2
 
|-
| [[Stormcast Eternals]]
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| See Alliance: Order
| TBD
| 1
 
|-
| [[Daughters of Khaine]]
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| See Alliance: Order
| TBD
| 1
 
|-
| [[Fyreslayers]]
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| See Alliance: Order
| TBD
| 1
 
|-
| [[Idoneth Deepkin]]
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| See Alliance: Order
| TBD
| 1
 
|-
| [[Kharadron Overlords]]
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| See Alliance: Order
| TBD
| 1
 
|-
| [[Lumineth Realm-Lords]]
 
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| See Alliance: Order
| TBD
| 1
 
|-
| [[Sylvaneth]]
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| See Alliance: Order
| TBD
| 1
 
|-
| [[Flesh-Eater Courts]]
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| See Alliance: Death
| TBD
| 1
 
|-
| [[Nighthaunt]]
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| See Alliance: Death
| TBD
| 1
 
|-
| [[Ossiarch Bonereapers]]
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| See Alliance: Death
| TBD
| 1
 
|-
| [[Sons of Behemat]]
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| Non Playable
| See Alliance: Destruction
| TBD
| 1
 
|}
 
==Some details==
*Age of Sigmar did a lot of renaming to old factions, as well as mix and match certain armies to fit the new lore. Thus, it's important to check the alliances to see if WHFB units have rules in AoS and in which faction.
**Cities of Sigmar is where pretty much all the Empire models (and High & Dark elves, and regular Dwarves, and whatever survived from Bretonnia...) ended up. It's a collage of old armies on the side of Order all together.
**Chaos Daemons is divided into multiple battletomes in AoS: Blades of Khorne, Disciples of Tzeentch, Maggotkin of Nurgle and Hedonites of Slaanesh.
**Most of the Warriors of Chaos are now either in the Slaves to Darkness faction or in other one of the Chaos Alliance.
**Chaos Dwarves are now the Legion of Azgorh.
**The Beastmen are now the Beasts Of Chaos who also took the Dragon Ogres, renamed Dragon Ogors, from the Chaos Warriors list.
**The old Orcs and Goblins are now multiple armies of Destruction, such as the Gloomspite Gitz, Bonesplitters, Ironjaws...
**The old skeleton warriors and vampires from the Vampire Counts are in one of the many armies of the Death Alliance.
*The Chaos Daemons in general are the most versatile faction of all, since they can be played in all settings. In contrast, almost all 40k armies (and some of the AoS ones) are only playable in their own setting. The division between the sci-fi 40k and the low/high fantasy makes this inevitable, though the shared realm of Chaos makes Chaos armies able to share certain units.
*At the opposite end of the spectrum, 40k has the most squatted armies with one army no longer being playable in its setting in any way (the squats, obviously). Though, if you look at it from a transition perspective, AoS squatted both Bretonnia and the Tomb Kings in its move from WHFB, so you make the call.
**While Bretonnia and the Tomb Kings "''technically''" have rules for AoS, they were pretty much there as a quick "Warscroll Compendium" to give their player some solace for the transition, which won't get any updates ever, so they are ''de facto'' squatted in AoS, and there's little to no hope to see them in Age of Sigmar 2nd Edition. Still, until then, they can be played with official rules, so they count as playable.
*The Adeptus Mechanicus used to be divided into two factions, the Skitarii and the Cult Mechanicus, but since that divide was solved in 8th Ed. (and let's face it, there was no reason to keep them separate), they count as a single faction on the list.
*Likewise, the Imperial Agents used to include Sororitas, Inquisitors, Astra Telepathica, the Assassinorum... but since they all had their own armies separately afterwards, they are counted as such.
*Solar Auxilia have the unique spot of only being available on HH and not on 40k, understandably so due to the lore.
 
[[Category:Warhammer Fantasy]]
[[Category:Age of Sigmar]]
[[Category:Warhammer 40,000]]
[[Category:Games Workshop]]

Revision as of 16:49, 14 August 2020

Here is a list of all armies that have been part of the many "Warhammer" settings, and in how many of them they're playable.

Disclaimer: This list takes into account the rules, not the models. For example, all elf models can be used on eldar lists as "count as", and viceversa, but that doesn't mean they have similar rules. This list is more interested in armies that keep similar rules and named units in all settings.

  • To make things easier, some factions that share a lot of similarities will be counted together. The one exception will be orc(k)s in general, due to all of them being wildly different in each setting.
  • Also, this list doesn't take into account the smaller specialist games, such as Kill Team, Warcry, Warhammer Underworlds or Bloodbowl. Thus, their exclusive factions are not included here.
  • While the list of the playable armies in WTOW will be almost identical, if not 100% identical to the old WHFB armies, we'll keep the TBD tag until we get official confirmation. The only exeption will be the armies that won't make sense being there (aka, the 40k ones).

The List

Army Warhammer 40,000 (40K) Horus Heresy (30k) Warhammer Fantasy Battle (WHFB) Warhammer: Age of Sigmar (AoS) Warhammer: The Old World (WTOW) Total games playable.
Space Marines ("Codex" SM, DW, GK, BA, SW, DA) Playable Playable Non Playable Non Playable Non Playable 2 (1 for DW/GK)
Imperial Guard (AM, Scions, first half of Militia and Cults) Playable Playable Non Playable Non Playable Non Playable 2
Solar Auxilia Non Playable Playable Non Playable Non Playable Non Playable 1
Adeptus Mechanicus (AdMech/Mechanicum) Playable Playable Non Playable Non Playable Non Playable 2
Imperial Knights (IK) Playable Playable Non Playable Non Playable Non Playable 2
Adeptus Titanicus (Titans) Playable Playable Non Playable Non Playable Non Playable 2
Sisters of Battle/Adeptus Ministorum (SoB) Playable Non Playable Non Playable Non Playable Non Playable 1
Talons of the Emperor (AC, SoS) Playable Playable Non Playable Non Playable Non Playable 2
Officio Assassinorum Playable Non Playable Non Playable Non Playable Non Playable 1
Inquisition (Inq) Playable Non Playable Non Playable Non Playable Non Playable 1
Squats Non Playable Non Playable Non Playable Non Playable Non Playable 0
Chaos Space Marines (CSM, DG, TS, Traitor legions) Playable Playable Non Playable Non Playable Non Playable 2
Chaos Daemons (CD) Playable Playable Playable See Alliance: Chaos TBD 4
Renegade Knights (RK) Playable Playable Non Playable Non Playable Non Playable 2
Lost and Dammned (Renegades and Heretics, second half of Militia and Cults) Playable Playable Non Playable Non Playable Non Playable 2
Eldar (Cr, DE, Har, Ynnari) Playable Non Playable Non Playable Non Playable Non Playable 1
Tyranids (Nids, GSC) Playable Non Playable Non Playable Non Playable Non Playable 1
Necrons (Nec) Playable Non Playable Non Playable Non Playable Non Playable 1
Orks Playable Non Playable Non Playable Non Playable Non Playable 1
Tau Playable Non Playable Non Playable Non Playable Non Playable 1
Empire of Man Non Playable Non Playable Playable See Alliance: Order TBD 2
Bretonnia Non Playable Non Playable Playable See Alliance: Order TBD 2
Kislev Non Playable Non Playable Playable Non Playable Confirmed 2
Elves (HE, DE, WE) Non Playable Non Playable Playable See Alliance: Order TBD 2
Dwarves Non Playable Non Playable Playable See Alliance: Order TBD 2
Tomb Kings Non Playable Non Playable Playable See Alliance: Death TBD 2
Vampire Counts Non Playable Non Playable Playable See Alliance: Death TBD 2
Lizardmen/Seraphon Non Playable Non Playable Playable See Alliance: Order TBD 2
Orcs & Goblins Non Playable Non Playable Playable See Alliance: Destructuon TBD 2
Ogres Non Playable Non Playable Playable See Alliance: Destructuon TBD 2
Warriors of Chaos Non Playable Non Playable Playable See Alliance: Chaos TBD 2
Chaos Dwarves Non Playable Non Playable Playable See Alliance: Chaos TBD 2
Beastmen Non Playable Non Playable Playable See Alliance: Chaos TBD 2
Skaven Non Playable Non Playable Playable See Alliance: Chaos TBD 2
Stormcast Eternals Non Playable Non Playable Non Playable See Alliance: Order TBD 1
Daughters of Khaine Non Playable Non Playable Non Playable See Alliance: Order TBD 1
Fyreslayers Non Playable Non Playable Non Playable See Alliance: Order TBD 1
Idoneth Deepkin Non Playable Non Playable Non Playable See Alliance: Order TBD 1
Kharadron Overlords Non Playable Non Playable Non Playable See Alliance: Order TBD 1
Lumineth Realm-Lords Non Playable Non Playable Non Playable See Alliance: Order TBD 1
Sylvaneth Non Playable Non Playable Non Playable See Alliance: Order TBD 1
Flesh-Eater Courts Non Playable Non Playable Non Playable See Alliance: Death TBD 1
Nighthaunt Non Playable Non Playable Non Playable See Alliance: Death TBD 1
Ossiarch Bonereapers Non Playable Non Playable Non Playable See Alliance: Death TBD 1
Sons of Behemat Non Playable Non Playable Non Playable See Alliance: Destruction TBD 1

Some details

  • Age of Sigmar did a lot of renaming to old factions, as well as mix and match certain armies to fit the new lore. Thus, it's important to check the alliances to see if WHFB units have rules in AoS and in which faction.
    • Cities of Sigmar is where pretty much all the Empire models (and High & Dark elves, and regular Dwarves, and whatever survived from Bretonnia...) ended up. It's a collage of old armies on the side of Order all together.
    • Chaos Daemons is divided into multiple battletomes in AoS: Blades of Khorne, Disciples of Tzeentch, Maggotkin of Nurgle and Hedonites of Slaanesh.
    • Most of the Warriors of Chaos are now either in the Slaves to Darkness faction or in other one of the Chaos Alliance.
    • Chaos Dwarves are now the Legion of Azgorh.
    • The Beastmen are now the Beasts Of Chaos who also took the Dragon Ogres, renamed Dragon Ogors, from the Chaos Warriors list.
    • The old Orcs and Goblins are now multiple armies of Destruction, such as the Gloomspite Gitz, Bonesplitters, Ironjaws...
    • The old skeleton warriors and vampires from the Vampire Counts are in one of the many armies of the Death Alliance.
  • The Chaos Daemons in general are the most versatile faction of all, since they can be played in all settings. In contrast, almost all 40k armies (and some of the AoS ones) are only playable in their own setting. The division between the sci-fi 40k and the low/high fantasy makes this inevitable, though the shared realm of Chaos makes Chaos armies able to share certain units.
  • At the opposite end of the spectrum, 40k has the most squatted armies with one army no longer being playable in its setting in any way (the squats, obviously). Though, if you look at it from a transition perspective, AoS squatted both Bretonnia and the Tomb Kings in its move from WHFB, so you make the call.
    • While Bretonnia and the Tomb Kings "technically" have rules for AoS, they were pretty much there as a quick "Warscroll Compendium" to give their player some solace for the transition, which won't get any updates ever, so they are de facto squatted in AoS, and there's little to no hope to see them in Age of Sigmar 2nd Edition. Still, until then, they can be played with official rules, so they count as playable.
  • The Adeptus Mechanicus used to be divided into two factions, the Skitarii and the Cult Mechanicus, but since that divide was solved in 8th Ed. (and let's face it, there was no reason to keep them separate), they count as a single faction on the list.
  • Likewise, the Imperial Agents used to include Sororitas, Inquisitors, Astra Telepathica, the Assassinorum... but since they all had their own armies separately afterwards, they are counted as such.
  • Solar Auxilia have the unique spot of only being available on HH and not on 40k, understandably so due to the lore.