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Hey, you! Tired of just one Heavy Bolter? Wish to crush your foes with their own armour? Want to wear armour while you wear armour? Crave GIANT FUCKING DRILLS? Then the new Centurion Warsuit is for you!
Hey, you! Tired of just one Heavy Bolter? Wish to crush your foes with their own armour? Want to wear armour while you wear armour? Crave GIANT FUCKING DRILLS? Then the new Centurion Warsuit is for you!


A Centurion Squad is a new type of [[Space Marines]] Squad available with the release of [[Warhammer 40,000 6th edition|6th edition]]. A Centurion is a warsuit whose [[STC]] printout was discovered after the [[Age of Apostasy]]. After getting the "not [[heresy]]" stamp from the [[Adeptus Mechanicus]], the [[Imperium of Man]] began supplying [[Space Marine Chapter]]s with the suits, who dubbed them "Centurion" after the former officers of the [[Legiones Astartes]]. The Centurion is a specialist piece of equipment used for sieges or line-breaking. Despite not interfacing with the Space Marines [[Gene-seed|Black Carapace]], it gives the Marine durability that is rivaled by that of a [[Dreadnought]], without the requirement of losing their spine and three out of four limbs in a heroic, but probably avoidable last stand. Instead of recruiting out of the Chapter's First Company [[Veteran Squad|Veterans]], Centurion pilots are recruited from the [[Assault Squad|Assault]] or [[Devastator Squad]]s, as Centurions are only useful in specific roles of Assault and heavy weapons, and their pilots need to be immersed in a specific type of warfare.
A Centurion Squad is a new type of [[Space Marines]] Squad available with the release of [[Warhammer 40,000 6th edition|6th edition]]. A Centurion is a warsuit whose [[STC]] printout was discovered after the [[Age of Apostasy]]. After getting the "not [[heresy]]" stamp from the [[Adeptus Mechanicus]], the [[Imperium of Man]] began supplying [[Space Marine Chapter]]s with the suits, who dubbed them "Centurion" after the former officers of the [[Legiones Astartes]]. The Centurion is a specialist piece of equipment used for sieges or line-breaking. Despite not interfacing with the Space Marines [[Gene-seed|Black Carapace]], it gives the Marine durability that is rivaled by that of a [[Dreadnought]], without the requirement of losing their spine and three out of four limbs in a heroic, but probably avoidable last stand. Instead of recruiting out of the Chapter's First Company [[Veteran Squad|Veterans]], Centurion pilots are recruited from the [[Assault Squad|Assault]] or [[Devastator Squad]]s, as Centurions are only useful in specific roles of Assault and heavy weapons, and their pilots need to be immersed in a specific type of warfare (so why don't they recruit from the vanguard veterans?) .


While you won't be blam'd for calling them [[Reasonable Marines|"Reasonable Dreadnaughts"]], it should be noted that their current status makes them inferior to true dreadnaughts <s>in both loadout and points price</s> DUE TO LACK OF HEROIC SACRIFICE.  
While you won't be blam'd for calling them [[Reasonable Marines|"Reasonable Dreadnaughts"]], it should be noted that their current status makes them inferior to true dreadnaughts <s>in both loadout and points price</s> DUE TO LACK OF HEROIC SACRIFICE.  

Revision as of 17:09, 23 February 2014

At least it looks better than the Dreadknight

Hey, you! Tired of just one Heavy Bolter? Wish to crush your foes with their own armour? Want to wear armour while you wear armour? Crave GIANT FUCKING DRILLS? Then the new Centurion Warsuit is for you!

A Centurion Squad is a new type of Space Marines Squad available with the release of 6th edition. A Centurion is a warsuit whose STC printout was discovered after the Age of Apostasy. After getting the "not heresy" stamp from the Adeptus Mechanicus, the Imperium of Man began supplying Space Marine Chapters with the suits, who dubbed them "Centurion" after the former officers of the Legiones Astartes. The Centurion is a specialist piece of equipment used for sieges or line-breaking. Despite not interfacing with the Space Marines Black Carapace, it gives the Marine durability that is rivaled by that of a Dreadnought, without the requirement of losing their spine and three out of four limbs in a heroic, but probably avoidable last stand. Instead of recruiting out of the Chapter's First Company Veterans, Centurion pilots are recruited from the Assault or Devastator Squads, as Centurions are only useful in specific roles of Assault and heavy weapons, and their pilots need to be immersed in a specific type of warfare (so why don't they recruit from the vanguard veterans?) .

While you won't be blam'd for calling them "Reasonable Dreadnaughts", it should be noted that their current status makes them inferior to true dreadnaughts in both loadout and points price DUE TO LACK OF HEROIC SACRIFICE.

They are also commonly referred to as "Space Marine inside a Space Marine" or "baby Dreadknights" by fa/tg/uys. Sometimes "tubinators" by less fatguys.

Why they suck

All jokes aside these things suck. Their kit and stats seems good on the surface however in practice glaring weaknesses arise.

Good:

  • They have grav-cannons and grav-amps. Which is the stuff that rapes the living hell out of your Riptides, Broadsides, Terminators and everything else with suitably high armor save (2+ or 3+). And they re-roll, too.
  • S5 T5 W2 and 2+ each!
  • Slow and Purposeful, they can move, shoot, and assault!
  • They can each fire two weapons!
  • Twin-linked everywhere!

Bad:

  • No invuln save. Plasma will vaporize them.
  • Dev-Cens only have 1A except for the sarge and don't have power weapons meaning ANYTHING can tarpit them.
  • They cant run, overwatch, or sweeping advance
    • Ass-cens take forever to get into assault
    • If either squad is charged all those guns of theirs are useless.
  • Both units are very pricey points wise.
  • There's virtually nothing these guys do that another squad can't do for cheaper(with the exception of having 2Ws each).

The squad(s) also fail to synergize with most chapter tactics in the vanilla marines codex(Not really their fault though since they already have what ever bonus they would normally get).

  • Ultramarines:
    • Tactical Doctrine: With the exception of missile launchers, all the squad's ranged weapons are twin-linked making Tac Doc unneeded.
    • Assault Doctrine: Only benefits the assault centurions, is completely useless to Devastator Centurions.
    • Devastator Doctrine: Completly useless since neither squad can overwatch.
  • White Scars: All the non-bike focused bonuses do not apply to these units(along with Terminators) specifically.
  • Imperial Fists: The Devy-cens get Tank Hunters and +1 to building damage. Ass-cens get nothing. Bolter drill is useless since all their weapons are twin-linked
  • Black Templars: Challange support only really helps Ass-Cen Sarge since its the only version you'll want to get in CC. Crusaders is useless since the squad can't run or sweeping advance.
  • Salamanders: Flamecraft is nice but the Ass-Cens would already get the re-rolls to wound from their flamers being twin-linked. Since all their weapons are twin-linked already you'll only ever master craft a missile launcher or siege drill.
  • Raven Guard: Stealth and Scouts only apply to none bulky units/models. The second half only affects units with HoR and Jump Packs.

The only chapter tactic that isn't wasted on them is Iron Hands, since the 6+ gives them a small band-aid for their lack of invulns, and IWND can benefit their 2W sarges.

The main reason they fail is that they just don't fill any gaps in the marine army that weren't already filled, other then giving them a squad of 2W models. And it's not like Space Marines lack durability anyway.

TL;DR The squad has its uses but they can be very situational. Dev-Cents are the ultimate anti-everything-with-2+-save unit. If you get them close enough. Ass-Cents, sadly, are useless. Build them with grav-cannons. Trade all those lascannon, heavy bolter and melta bits to your friendly Guard player.

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