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Dieselpunk is like a [[Steampunk]], but instead of Industrial revolution we got both World Wars and period between them. | |||
==Aesthetics== | |||
If steampunk is all about brass, steam, blimps and clockwork robots, then dieselpunk is steel, engines, tanks and dreadnoughts (of naval kind, not [[Dreadnought|walking boxes]]). | |||
[[ | The overall technology level hovers around 1940: we got machineguns, cars, piston planes (and very limited amount of jets), radios and black-and-white TV sets. Electronics are something of a gray area: they exists, but not very advanced; you can expect radio, radars, alarms, simple encrypting/decrypting machines and so on, but no portable phones, detectors, transistors and computers (barring occasional [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ENIAC ENIAC]-styled vacuum tube monstruosity). In a nutshell, if it looks like your grand-granddad would like it, that's steampunk, if it looks like it belongs to your grandpa, that's dieselpunk, and if it looks like your dad used it, that's early [[cyberpunk]]. | ||
Kriegers | Also worth mentioning that there is significant difference in mood: steampunk stories often lean on romantical side of things, adventuring with science of the future and all, while dieselpunk goes full [[grimdark]] with industrialised, automated warfare, totalitarism and nihilism; steampunk is "The Time Machine" and "Frankenstein", dieselpunk is "All Quiet On Eastern Front" and "Catch-22". | ||
==Examples== | |||
* [[Imperium]] (and, by extension, [[Chaos]] and [[Orks]], since they like to loot their tech) is embodiment of this. Rule of thumb: if it doesn't look like it came out of [[Force Weapons|Renai]][[Power Weapon|ssance]] Fair or [[Lasgun|cheap]] [[Titan|80'ies]] [[Plasma|sci]]-[[Melta|fi]] [[Adeptus Mechanicus|show]] ([[Power armor#Warhammer_40.2C000|or]] [[Imperial Knight|both]]), it's probably it. [[Imperial Guard]] is literally runs on it, special mention goes to [[Death Korps of Krieg|Kriegers]], [[Armageddon Steel Legion|Armageddoners]], [[Mordian Iron Guard|Mordians]], [[Valhalla]]ns and entirety of [[Commissar]]iat. | |||
* Generally, every [[Communism|Russian]] or Russian-equivalent faction in sufficiently advanced setting is this; see [[Khador]], [[AT-43|Red Bloc]]; good vidya examples are Soviets from [[Command_and_Conquer#Red_Alert_series|Red Alert]] and China from [[Command_and_Conquer#Generals_series|C&C:Generals]]. | |||
** [[Nazi]]s and similiary themed factions tend to share this property whenever they're not too busy playing with occultism, eugenics and Tesla weapons. Kinda understandable: would you [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bertha_(howitzer) look] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzer_VIII_Maus at] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landkreuzer_P._1500_Monster these] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elefant penis] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl-Ger%C3%A4t compensators]. | |||
* In /v/, examples are [[Fallout]] (albeit if you're inclined to split hairs, that's atompunk (50'es to 70'es)), first two Bioshocks (Infinite is more steampunky) and Dishonored. | |||
* For [[weeaboo]]s goes non-magical bits of Fullmetal Alchemist, half of what [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayao_Miyazaki Miyazaki] did, [[Avatar: The Last Airbender|Avatar's]] Fire Nation and whole Legend of Korra. | |||
Revision as of 09:26, 6 February 2016
Dieselpunk is like a Steampunk, but instead of Industrial revolution we got both World Wars and period between them.
Aesthetics
If steampunk is all about brass, steam, blimps and clockwork robots, then dieselpunk is steel, engines, tanks and dreadnoughts (of naval kind, not walking boxes).
The overall technology level hovers around 1940: we got machineguns, cars, piston planes (and very limited amount of jets), radios and black-and-white TV sets. Electronics are something of a gray area: they exists, but not very advanced; you can expect radio, radars, alarms, simple encrypting/decrypting machines and so on, but no portable phones, detectors, transistors and computers (barring occasional ENIAC-styled vacuum tube monstruosity). In a nutshell, if it looks like your grand-granddad would like it, that's steampunk, if it looks like it belongs to your grandpa, that's dieselpunk, and if it looks like your dad used it, that's early cyberpunk.
Also worth mentioning that there is significant difference in mood: steampunk stories often lean on romantical side of things, adventuring with science of the future and all, while dieselpunk goes full grimdark with industrialised, automated warfare, totalitarism and nihilism; steampunk is "The Time Machine" and "Frankenstein", dieselpunk is "All Quiet On Eastern Front" and "Catch-22".
Examples
- Imperium (and, by extension, Chaos and Orks, since they like to loot their tech) is embodiment of this. Rule of thumb: if it doesn't look like it came out of Renaissance Fair or cheap 80'ies sci-fi show (or both), it's probably it. Imperial Guard is literally runs on it, special mention goes to Kriegers, Armageddoners, Mordians, Valhallans and entirety of Commissariat.
- Generally, every Russian or Russian-equivalent faction in sufficiently advanced setting is this; see Khador, Red Bloc; good vidya examples are Soviets from Red Alert and China from C&C:Generals.
- In /v/, examples are Fallout (albeit if you're inclined to split hairs, that's atompunk (50'es to 70'es)), first two Bioshocks (Infinite is more steampunky) and Dishonored.
- For weeaboos goes non-magical bits of Fullmetal Alchemist, half of what Miyazaki did, Avatar's Fire Nation and whole Legend of Korra.