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This is a problem that has been around since [[Advanced Dungeons & Dragons]]; one of the key reasons that the [[gish]] concept through [[multiclassing]] took off so much was because it combined the fighter's low-level survivability with the wizard's high-level potency. It only got worse in [[Dungeons & Dragons 3rd Edition]]; the new multiclassing mechanics, combined with the scourge of "Ivory Tower Design" (aka, some choices are ''deliberately'' designed to be inferior to others) and the Fighter's front-loaded class design meant it was far more optimal to make it your "dip class" and focus your leveling on a more potent class.
This is a problem that has been around since [[Advanced Dungeons & Dragons]]; one of the key reasons that the [[gish]] concept through [[multiclassing]] took off so much was because it combined the fighter's low-level survivability with the wizard's high-level potency. It only got worse in [[Dungeons & Dragons 3rd Edition]]; the new multiclassing mechanics, combined with the scourge of "Ivory Tower Design" (aka, some choices are ''deliberately'' designed to be inferior to others) and the Fighter's front-loaded class design meant it was far more optimal to make it your "dip class" and focus your leveling on a more potent class.


[[Dungeons & Dragons 4th Edition]] attempted to end this problem by inventing the [[AEDU System]], which definitely ''worked'', but was enormously [[skub]]by.
==Ways This Was Addressed==
Due to the very diverse world of RPGs, there are no doubt multiple examples that show the issues being addressed in multiple ways. Some were viewed far more favorably than others.


[[Dungeons & Dragons 5th Edition]] also attempted to solve this problem with a less overtly new mechanic. Their solution was to remove the idea of spells automatically increasing in potency due to their caster's level; in this version, you have to sacrifice a spellcasting slot of higher level to increase the might of your spells.
*[[Dungeons & Dragons]]:
** [[Advanced Dungeons & Dragons]] - While made before this was an issue, it shows why this happened in the first place: Casters had to sacrifice initiative and spend several actions in order to cast their spells and if they were hit, that spell could potentially be wasted. In addition, their spell slots were restricted to the point that physical combat was a necessity.
** [[Dungeons & Dragons 3rd Edition]] (and [[Pathfinder]]) - The first case of this being shown. All casters benefited from their casting stats contributing to how many times they could cast in a day, all spells scaled with the caster's level, and spells were so potent that you could actually cast them during a turn without risk of losing it while prepping it. Also present is metamagic, which allows a caster to add extra effects to a spell for the cost of a higher spellslot than intended.
*** [[Book of Nine Swords]] - Attempted to address this by giving martials a system of slots similar to casters. They now gained a system of attacks, boosts, and stances grouped by differing disciplines that worked like spells with an exception: these resources always regenerated after every fight (and somewhat during a fight), enabling a practitioner to fight constantly, even when the casters wasted their last spells.
** [[Dungeons & Dragons 4th Edition]] - Attempted to end this problem by inventing the [[AEDU System]], which definitely ''worked'', but was enormously [[skub]]by. Essentially, everyone was stuck to the same style of abilities, with some being less available during the day compared to others.
** [[Dungeons & Dragons 5th Edition]] - Also attempted to solve this problem with a less overtly new mechanic. Their solution was to remove the idea of spells automatically increasing in potency due to their caster's level; in this version, you have to sacrifice a spellcasting slot of higher level to increase the might of your spells.
* [[Warhammer Fantasy Battles Roleplaying Game]] and [[Dark Heresy]] - While magic was locked to a single stat and spells were bought with experience, the real balancing factor was the fact that casting was innately a very risky ordeal that involved [[Warp|opening a gateway to Hell itself]] and required concentration (Here exemplified by a Willpower check) to harness successfully. If improperly controlled, the caster could potentially summon some horrific [[Daemons of Chaos|daemon]] who would be all too happy to kill anyone, summoner or no, alongside other possibly horrific effects.
** [[Navigator]]s (As seen in the [[Rogue Trader (RPG)|Rogue Trader RPG]]) were somewhat less dangerous. While their powers lacked any chance of opening gateways and at worst only dealt harm to the three-eyed caster, their repertoire of powers is significantly smaller.


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Revision as of 19:05, 8 October 2018

Linear Warriors, Quadratic Wizards is a /tg/-related trope that was popularized, if not created, by Dungeons & Dragons. It has its roots in Vancian Casting, and in particular the contrast between the Fighter and the Wizard (or, really, any martial character vs. any spellcaster, but we'll stick with the originals), and is a huge source of skub.

In a nutshell, LWQW refers to the disparity between fighters and wizards caused by the differing returns received as they level up. Fighters advance in a linear fashion; their skills improve, their attacking accuracy increases, and their attacks per round slowly increase. However, wizards advance in a quadratic fashion; they can cast more spells per day, they can cast more potent kinds of spells, and all of their lower-level spells increase in potency passively as well.

The end result? The high level fighter is clearly better than he was when he started... but the equally high-level wizard outclasses him in terms of potency and options.

This is a problem that has been around since Advanced Dungeons & Dragons; one of the key reasons that the gish concept through multiclassing took off so much was because it combined the fighter's low-level survivability with the wizard's high-level potency. It only got worse in Dungeons & Dragons 3rd Edition; the new multiclassing mechanics, combined with the scourge of "Ivory Tower Design" (aka, some choices are deliberately designed to be inferior to others) and the Fighter's front-loaded class design meant it was far more optimal to make it your "dip class" and focus your leveling on a more potent class.

Ways This Was Addressed

Due to the very diverse world of RPGs, there are no doubt multiple examples that show the issues being addressed in multiple ways. Some were viewed far more favorably than others.

  • Dungeons & Dragons:
    • Advanced Dungeons & Dragons - While made before this was an issue, it shows why this happened in the first place: Casters had to sacrifice initiative and spend several actions in order to cast their spells and if they were hit, that spell could potentially be wasted. In addition, their spell slots were restricted to the point that physical combat was a necessity.
    • Dungeons & Dragons 3rd Edition (and Pathfinder) - The first case of this being shown. All casters benefited from their casting stats contributing to how many times they could cast in a day, all spells scaled with the caster's level, and spells were so potent that you could actually cast them during a turn without risk of losing it while prepping it. Also present is metamagic, which allows a caster to add extra effects to a spell for the cost of a higher spellslot than intended.
      • Book of Nine Swords - Attempted to address this by giving martials a system of slots similar to casters. They now gained a system of attacks, boosts, and stances grouped by differing disciplines that worked like spells with an exception: these resources always regenerated after every fight (and somewhat during a fight), enabling a practitioner to fight constantly, even when the casters wasted their last spells.
    • Dungeons & Dragons 4th Edition - Attempted to end this problem by inventing the AEDU System, which definitely worked, but was enormously skubby. Essentially, everyone was stuck to the same style of abilities, with some being less available during the day compared to others.
    • Dungeons & Dragons 5th Edition - Also attempted to solve this problem with a less overtly new mechanic. Their solution was to remove the idea of spells automatically increasing in potency due to their caster's level; in this version, you have to sacrifice a spellcasting slot of higher level to increase the might of your spells.
  • Warhammer Fantasy Battles Roleplaying Game and Dark Heresy - While magic was locked to a single stat and spells were bought with experience, the real balancing factor was the fact that casting was innately a very risky ordeal that involved opening a gateway to Hell itself and required concentration (Here exemplified by a Willpower check) to harness successfully. If improperly controlled, the caster could potentially summon some horrific daemon who would be all too happy to kill anyone, summoner or no, alongside other possibly horrific effects.
    • Navigators (As seen in the Rogue Trader RPG) were somewhat less dangerous. While their powers lacked any chance of opening gateways and at worst only dealt harm to the three-eyed caster, their repertoire of powers is significantly smaller.