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Remember Sid Meier's definition of a good game as a series of interesting decisions[1]. Most roll-and-move games are designed to prevent decisions. | Remember Sid Meier's definition of a good game as a series of interesting decisions[1]. Most roll-and-move games are designed to prevent decisions. | ||
Some interesting cases of Roll And Move games: | Some interesting cases of Roll And Move games: My name is jeff lolololololololollllo nsdvjsdbqwhajf | ||
* [[Talisman]]: Partly gets away with RaM by, at minimum, giving you at least one choice per non-endgame turn (do I go left or right?) and giving you occasional interesting choices once you land on a square (Especially 4th edition, which introduced a fate point mechanic that offered a great deal of opportunity for interesting choices). | * [[Talisman]]: Partly gets away with RaM by, at minimum, giving you at least one choice per non-endgame turn (do I go left or right?) and giving you occasional interesting choices once you land on a square (Especially 4th edition, which introduced a fate point mechanic that offered a great deal of opportunity for interesting choices). | ||
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* [[Trivial Pursuit]]: Not a good game, but a good example of RaM being used for legitimate purposes: Since the game is '''really''' only about answering the questions, the board is only a way of keeping score and providing some structure to the game. | * [[Trivial Pursuit]]: Not a good game, but a good example of RaM being used for legitimate purposes: Since the game is '''really''' only about answering the questions, the board is only a way of keeping score and providing some structure to the game. | ||
** Other games with the same property include [[Clue]] | ** Other games with the same property include [[Clue]] | ||
== Headline text == | |||
* [[Snakes and Ladders]]: Other than possibly [[Monopoly]], the platonic ideal of a shitty RaM game. The only defense is that it was intended as [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzLYKY1nPsY religious propaganda] rather than being any actual fun. | |||
* [[Talisman]]: Partly gets away with RaM by, at minimum, giving you at least one choice per non-endgame turn (do I go left or right?) and giving you occasional interesting choices once you land on a square (Especially 4th edition, which introduced a fate point mechanic that offered a great deal of opportunity for interesting choices). | |||
* [[Backgammon]]: Gets away with RaM by making the game about ''which pieces'' you move once you rolled, and having the players meaningfully conflict once a move is complete. | |||
* [[Trivial Pursuit]]: Not a good game, but a good example of RaM being used for legitimate purposes: Since the game is '''really''' only about answering the questions, the board is only a way of keeping score and providing some structure to the game. | |||
** Other games with the same property include [[Clue]] | |||
== Headline text == | |||
* [[Snakes and Ladders]]: Other than possibly [[Monopoly]], the platonic ideal of a shitty RaM game. The only defense is that it was intended as [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzLYKY1nPsY religious propaganda] rather than being any actual fun. | |||
* [[Talisman]]: Partly gets away with RaM by, at minimum, giving you at least one choice per non-endgame turn (do I go left or right?) and giving you occasional interesting choices once you land on a square (Especially 4th edition, which introduced a fate point mechanic that offered a great deal of opportunity for interesting choices). | |||
* [[Backgammon]]: Gets away with RaM by making the game about ''which pieces'' you move once you rolled, and having the players meaningfully conflict once a move is complete. | |||
* [[Trivial Pursuit]]: Not a good game, but a good example of RaM being used for legitimate purposes: Since the game is '''really''' only about answering the questions, the board is only a way of keeping score and providing some structure to the game. | |||
** Other games with the same property include [[Clue]] | |||
== Headline text == | |||
* [[Snakes and Ladders]]: Other than possibly [[Monopoly]], the platonic ideal of a shitty RaM game. The only defense is that it was intended as [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzLYKY1nPsY religious propaganda] rather than being any actual fun. | |||
* [[Talisman]]: Partly gets away with RaM by, at minimum, giving you at least one choice per non-endgame turn (do I go left or right?) and giving you occasional interesting choices once you land on a square (Especially 4th edition, which introduced a fate point mechanic that offered a great deal of opportunity for interesting choices). | |||
* [[Backgammon]]: Gets away with RaM by making the game about ''which pieces'' you move once you rolled, and having the players meaningfully conflict once a move is complete. | |||
* [[Trivial Pursuit]]: Not a good game, but a good example of RaM being used for legitimate purposes: Since the game is '''really''' only about answering the questions, the board is only a way of keeping score and providing some structure to the game. | |||
** Other games with the same property include [[Clue]] | |||
== Headline text == | |||
* [[Snakes and Ladders]]: Other than possibly [[Monopoly]], the platonic ideal of a shitty RaM game. The only defense is that it was intended as [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzLYKY1nPsY religious propaganda] rather than being any actual fun. | |||
* [[Talisman]]: Partly gets away with RaM by, at minimum, giving you at least one choice per non-endgame turn (do I go left or right?) and giving you occasional interesting choices once you land on a square (Especially 4th edition, which introduced a fate point mechanic that offered a great deal of opportunity for interesting choices). | |||
* [[Backgammon]]: Gets away with RaM by making the game about ''which pieces'' you move once you rolled, and having the players meaningfully conflict once a move is complete. | |||
* [[Trivial Pursuit]]: Not a good game, but a good example of RaM being used for legitimate purposes: Since the game is '''really''' only about answering the questions, the board is only a way of keeping score and providing some structure to the game. | |||
** Other games with the same property include [[Clue]] | |||
== Headline text == | |||
* [[Snakes and Ladders]]: Other than possibly [[Monopoly]], the platonic ideal of a shitty RaM game. The only defense is that it was intended as [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzLYKY1nPsY religious propaganda] rather than being any actual fun. | |||
* [[Talisman]]: Partly gets away with RaM by, at minimum, giving you at least one choice per non-endgame turn (do I go left or right?) and giving you occasional interesting choices once you land on a square (Especially 4th edition, which introduced a fate point mechanic that offered a great deal of opportunity for interesting choices). | |||
* [[Backgammon]]: Gets away with RaM by making the game about ''which pieces'' you move once you rolled, and having the players meaningfully conflict once a move is complete. | |||
* [[Trivial Pursuit]]: Not a good game, but a good example of RaM being used for legitimate purposes: Since the game is '''really''' only about answering the questions, the board is only a way of keeping score and providing some structure to the game. | |||
** Other games with the same property include [[Clue]] | |||
== Headline text == | |||
* [[Snakes and Ladders]]: Other than possibly [[Monopoly]], the platonic ideal of a shitty RaM game. The only defense is that it was intended as [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzLYKY1nPsY religious propaganda] rather than being any actual fun. | |||
* [[Talisman]]: Partly gets away with RaM by, at minimum, giving you at least one choice per non-endgame turn (do I go left or right?) and giving you occasional interesting choices once you land on a square (Especially 4th edition, which introduced a fate point mechanic that offered a great deal of opportunity for interesting choices). | |||
* [[Backgammon]]: Gets away with RaM by making the game about ''which pieces'' you move once you rolled, and having the players meaningfully conflict once a move is complete. | |||
* [[Trivial Pursuit]]: Not a good game, but a good example of RaM being used for legitimate purposes: Since the game is '''really''' only about answering the questions, the board is only a way of keeping score and providing some structure to the game. | |||
** Other games with the same property include [[Clue]] | |||
== Headline text == | |||
* [[Snakes and Ladders]]: Other than possibly [[Monopoly]], the platonic ideal of a shitty RaM game. The only defense is that it was intended as [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzLYKY1nPsY religious propaganda] rather than being any actual fun. | |||
* [[Talisman]]: Partly gets away with RaM by, at minimum, giving you at least one choice per non-endgame turn (do I go left or right?) and giving you occasional interesting choices once you land on a square (Especially 4th edition, which introduced a fate point mechanic that offered a great deal of opportunity for interesting choices). | |||
* [[Backgammon]]: Gets away with RaM by making the game about ''which pieces'' you move once you rolled, and having the players meaningfully conflict once a move is complete. | |||
* [[Trivial Pursuit]]: Not a good game, but a good example of RaM being used for legitimate purposes: Since the game is '''really''' only about answering the questions, the board is only a way of keeping score and providing some structure to the game. | |||
** Other games with the same property include [[Clue]] | |||
== Headline text == | |||
* [[Snakes and Ladders]]: Other than possibly [[Monopoly]], the platonic ideal of a shitty RaM game. The only defense is that it was intended as [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzLYKY1nPsY religious propaganda] rather than being any actual fun. | |||
* [[Talisman]]: Partly gets away with RaM by, at minimum, giving you at least one choice per non-endgame turn (do I go left or right?) and giving you occasional interesting choices once you land on a square (Especially 4th edition, which introduced a fate point mechanic that offered a great deal of opportunity for interesting choices). | |||
* [[Backgammon]]: Gets away with RaM by making the game about ''which pieces'' you move once you rolled, and having the players meaningfully conflict once a move is complete. | |||
* [[Trivial Pursuit]]: Not a good game, but a good example of RaM being used for legitimate purposes: Since the game is '''really''' only about answering the questions, the board is only a way of keeping score and providing some structure to the game. | |||
** Other games with the same property include [[Clue]] | |||
== Headline text == | |||
* [[Snakes and Ladders]]: Other than possibly [[Monopoly]], the platonic ideal of a shitty RaM game. The only defense is that it was intended as [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzLYKY1nPsY religious propaganda] rather than being any actual fun. | |||
* [[Talisman]]: Partly gets away with RaM by, at minimum, giving you at least one choice per non-endgame turn (do I go left or right?) and giving you occasional interesting choices once you land on a square (Especially 4th edition, which introduced a fate point mechanic that offered a great deal of opportunity for interesting choices). | |||
* [[Backgammon]]: Gets away with RaM by making the game about ''which pieces'' you move once you rolled, and having the players meaningfully conflict once a move is complete. | |||
* [[Trivial Pursuit]]: Not a good game, but a good example of RaM being used for legitimate purposes: Since the game is '''really''' only about answering the questions, the board is only a way of keeping score and providing some structure to the game. | |||
** Other games with the same property include [[Clue]] | |||
== Headline text == | |||
* [[Snakes and Ladders]]: Other than possibly [[Monopoly]], the platonic ideal of a shitty RaM game. The only defense is that it was intended as [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzLYKY1nPsY religious propaganda] rather than being any actual fun. | |||
* [[Talisman]]: Partly gets away with RaM by, at minimum, giving you at least one choice per non-endgame turn (do I go left or right?) and giving you occasional interesting choices once you land on a square (Especially 4th edition, which introduced a fate point mechanic that offered a great deal of opportunity for interesting choices). | |||
* [[Backgammon]]: Gets away with RaM by making the game about ''which pieces'' you move once you rolled, and having the players meaningfully conflict once a move is complete. | |||
* [[Trivial Pursuit]]: Not a good game, but a good example of RaM being used for legitimate purposes: Since the game is '''really''' only about answering the questions, the board is only a way of keeping score and providing some structure to the game. | |||
** Other games with the same property include [[Clue]] | |||
== Headline text == | |||
* [[Snakes and Ladders]]: Other than possibly [[Monopoly]], the platonic ideal of a shitty RaM game. The only defense is that it was intended as [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzLYKY1nPsY religious propaganda] rather than being any actual fun. | |||
* [[Talisman]]: Partly gets away with RaM by, at minimum, giving you at least one choice per non-endgame turn (do I go left or right?) and giving you occasional interesting choices once you land on a square (Especially 4th edition, which introduced a fate point mechanic that offered a great deal of opportunity for interesting choices). | |||
* [[Backgammon]]: Gets away with RaM by making the game about ''which pieces'' you move once you rolled, and having the players meaningfully conflict once a move is complete. | |||
* [[Trivial Pursuit]]: Not a good game, but a good example of RaM being used for legitimate purposes: Since the game is '''really''' only about answering the questions, the board is only a way of keeping score and providing some structure to the game. | |||
** Other games with the same property include [[Clue]] | |||
== Headline text == | |||
* [[Snakes and Ladders]]: Other than possibly [[Monopoly]], the platonic ideal of a shitty RaM game. The only defense is that it was intended as [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzLYKY1nPsY religious propaganda] rather than being any actual fun. | |||
* [[Talisman]]: Partly gets away with RaM by, at minimum, giving you at least one choice per non-endgame turn (do I go left or right?) and giving you occasional interesting choices once you land on a square (Especially 4th edition, which introduced a fate point mechanic that offered a great deal of opportunity for interesting choices). | |||
* [[Backgammon]]: Gets away with RaM by making the game about ''which pieces'' you move once you rolled, and having the players meaningfully conflict once a move is complete. | |||
* [[Trivial Pursuit]]: Not a good game, but a good example of RaM being used for legitimate purposes: Since the game is '''really''' only about answering the questions, the board is only a way of keeping score and providing some structure to the game. | |||
** Other games with the same property include [[Clue]] | |||
== Headline text == | |||
* [[Snakes and Ladders]]: Other than possibly [[Monopoly]], the platonic ideal of a shitty RaM game. The only defense is that it was intended as [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzLYKY1nPsY religious propaganda] rather than being any actual fun. | |||
* [[Talisman]]: Partly gets away with RaM by, at minimum, giving you at least one choice per non-endgame turn (do I go left or right?) and giving you occasional interesting choices once you land on a square (Especially 4th edition, which introduced a fate point mechanic that offered a great deal of opportunity for interesting choices). | |||
* [[Backgammon]]: Gets away with RaM by making the game about ''which pieces'' you move once you rolled, and having the players meaningfully conflict once a move is complete. | |||
* [[Trivial Pursuit]]: Not a good game, but a good example of RaM being used for legitimate purposes: Since the game is '''really''' only about answering the questions, the board is only a way of keeping score and providing some structure to the game. | |||
** Other games with the same property include [[Clue]] | |||
== Headline text == | |||
* [[Snakes and Ladders]]: Other than possibly [[Monopoly]], the platonic ideal of a shitty RaM game. The only defense is that it was intended as [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzLYKY1nPsY religious propaganda] rather than being any actual fun. | |||
* [[Talisman]]: Partly gets away with RaM by, at minimum, giving you at least one choice per non-endgame turn (do I go left or right?) and giving you occasional interesting choices once you land on a square (Especially 4th edition, which introduced a fate point mechanic that offered a great deal of opportunity for interesting choices). | |||
* [[Backgammon]]: Gets away with RaM by making the game about ''which pieces'' you move once you rolled, and having the players meaningfully conflict once a move is complete. | |||
* [[Trivial Pursuit]]: Not a good game, but a good example of RaM being used for legitimate purposes: Since the game is '''really''' only about answering the questions, the board is only a way of keeping score and providing some structure to the game. | |||
** Other games with the same property include [[Clue]] | |||
== Headline text == | |||
* [[Snakes and Ladders]]: Other than possibly [[Monopoly]], the platonic ideal of a shitty RaM game. The only defense is that it was intended as [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzLYKY1nPsY religious propaganda] rather than being any actual fun. | * [[Snakes and Ladders]]: Other than possibly [[Monopoly]], the platonic ideal of a shitty RaM game. The only defense is that it was intended as [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzLYKY1nPsY religious propaganda] rather than being any actual fun. | ||
Footnote 1: Yes, even rhythm games offer interesting choices: how you play, how you learn, how much and what kind of effort you put into mastering a given song or level, etc. | Footnote 1: Yes, even rhythm games offer interesting choices: how you play, how you learn, how much and what kind of effort you put into mastering a given song or level, etc. | ||
[[Category:Board Games]] | [[Category:Board Games]] |
Revision as of 15:49, 7 October 2019
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Roll (or spin) and Move board games have a bad reputation, for some very good reasons. The main one is that they usually amount to Ameritrash: The player has no control, and as such, needs not put any thought into moving.
Remember Sid Meier's definition of a good game as a series of interesting decisions[1]. Most roll-and-move games are designed to prevent decisions.
Some interesting cases of Roll And Move games: My name is jeff lolololololololollllo nsdvjsdbqwhajf
- Talisman: Partly gets away with RaM by, at minimum, giving you at least one choice per non-endgame turn (do I go left or right?) and giving you occasional interesting choices once you land on a square (Especially 4th edition, which introduced a fate point mechanic that offered a great deal of opportunity for interesting choices).
- Backgammon: Gets away with RaM by making the game about which pieces you move once you rolled, and having the players meaningfully conflict once a move is complete.
- Trivial Pursuit: Not a good game, but a good example of RaM being used for legitimate purposes: Since the game is really only about answering the questions, the board is only a way of keeping score and providing some structure to the game.
- Other games with the same property include Clue
Headline text
- Snakes and Ladders: Other than possibly Monopoly, the platonic ideal of a shitty RaM game. The only defense is that it was intended as religious propaganda rather than being any actual fun.
- Talisman: Partly gets away with RaM by, at minimum, giving you at least one choice per non-endgame turn (do I go left or right?) and giving you occasional interesting choices once you land on a square (Especially 4th edition, which introduced a fate point mechanic that offered a great deal of opportunity for interesting choices).
- Backgammon: Gets away with RaM by making the game about which pieces you move once you rolled, and having the players meaningfully conflict once a move is complete.
- Trivial Pursuit: Not a good game, but a good example of RaM being used for legitimate purposes: Since the game is really only about answering the questions, the board is only a way of keeping score and providing some structure to the game.
- Other games with the same property include Clue
Headline text
- Snakes and Ladders: Other than possibly Monopoly, the platonic ideal of a shitty RaM game. The only defense is that it was intended as religious propaganda rather than being any actual fun.
- Talisman: Partly gets away with RaM by, at minimum, giving you at least one choice per non-endgame turn (do I go left or right?) and giving you occasional interesting choices once you land on a square (Especially 4th edition, which introduced a fate point mechanic that offered a great deal of opportunity for interesting choices).
- Backgammon: Gets away with RaM by making the game about which pieces you move once you rolled, and having the players meaningfully conflict once a move is complete.
- Trivial Pursuit: Not a good game, but a good example of RaM being used for legitimate purposes: Since the game is really only about answering the questions, the board is only a way of keeping score and providing some structure to the game.
- Other games with the same property include Clue
Headline text
- Snakes and Ladders: Other than possibly Monopoly, the platonic ideal of a shitty RaM game. The only defense is that it was intended as religious propaganda rather than being any actual fun.
- Talisman: Partly gets away with RaM by, at minimum, giving you at least one choice per non-endgame turn (do I go left or right?) and giving you occasional interesting choices once you land on a square (Especially 4th edition, which introduced a fate point mechanic that offered a great deal of opportunity for interesting choices).
- Backgammon: Gets away with RaM by making the game about which pieces you move once you rolled, and having the players meaningfully conflict once a move is complete.
- Trivial Pursuit: Not a good game, but a good example of RaM being used for legitimate purposes: Since the game is really only about answering the questions, the board is only a way of keeping score and providing some structure to the game.
- Other games with the same property include Clue
Headline text
- Snakes and Ladders: Other than possibly Monopoly, the platonic ideal of a shitty RaM game. The only defense is that it was intended as religious propaganda rather than being any actual fun.
- Talisman: Partly gets away with RaM by, at minimum, giving you at least one choice per non-endgame turn (do I go left or right?) and giving you occasional interesting choices once you land on a square (Especially 4th edition, which introduced a fate point mechanic that offered a great deal of opportunity for interesting choices).
- Backgammon: Gets away with RaM by making the game about which pieces you move once you rolled, and having the players meaningfully conflict once a move is complete.
- Trivial Pursuit: Not a good game, but a good example of RaM being used for legitimate purposes: Since the game is really only about answering the questions, the board is only a way of keeping score and providing some structure to the game.
- Other games with the same property include Clue
Headline text
- Snakes and Ladders: Other than possibly Monopoly, the platonic ideal of a shitty RaM game. The only defense is that it was intended as religious propaganda rather than being any actual fun.
- Talisman: Partly gets away with RaM by, at minimum, giving you at least one choice per non-endgame turn (do I go left or right?) and giving you occasional interesting choices once you land on a square (Especially 4th edition, which introduced a fate point mechanic that offered a great deal of opportunity for interesting choices).
- Backgammon: Gets away with RaM by making the game about which pieces you move once you rolled, and having the players meaningfully conflict once a move is complete.
- Trivial Pursuit: Not a good game, but a good example of RaM being used for legitimate purposes: Since the game is really only about answering the questions, the board is only a way of keeping score and providing some structure to the game.
- Other games with the same property include Clue
Headline text
- Snakes and Ladders: Other than possibly Monopoly, the platonic ideal of a shitty RaM game. The only defense is that it was intended as religious propaganda rather than being any actual fun.
- Talisman: Partly gets away with RaM by, at minimum, giving you at least one choice per non-endgame turn (do I go left or right?) and giving you occasional interesting choices once you land on a square (Especially 4th edition, which introduced a fate point mechanic that offered a great deal of opportunity for interesting choices).
- Backgammon: Gets away with RaM by making the game about which pieces you move once you rolled, and having the players meaningfully conflict once a move is complete.
- Trivial Pursuit: Not a good game, but a good example of RaM being used for legitimate purposes: Since the game is really only about answering the questions, the board is only a way of keeping score and providing some structure to the game.
- Other games with the same property include Clue
Headline text
- Snakes and Ladders: Other than possibly Monopoly, the platonic ideal of a shitty RaM game. The only defense is that it was intended as religious propaganda rather than being any actual fun.
- Talisman: Partly gets away with RaM by, at minimum, giving you at least one choice per non-endgame turn (do I go left or right?) and giving you occasional interesting choices once you land on a square (Especially 4th edition, which introduced a fate point mechanic that offered a great deal of opportunity for interesting choices).
- Backgammon: Gets away with RaM by making the game about which pieces you move once you rolled, and having the players meaningfully conflict once a move is complete.
- Trivial Pursuit: Not a good game, but a good example of RaM being used for legitimate purposes: Since the game is really only about answering the questions, the board is only a way of keeping score and providing some structure to the game.
- Other games with the same property include Clue
Headline text
- Snakes and Ladders: Other than possibly Monopoly, the platonic ideal of a shitty RaM game. The only defense is that it was intended as religious propaganda rather than being any actual fun.
- Talisman: Partly gets away with RaM by, at minimum, giving you at least one choice per non-endgame turn (do I go left or right?) and giving you occasional interesting choices once you land on a square (Especially 4th edition, which introduced a fate point mechanic that offered a great deal of opportunity for interesting choices).
- Backgammon: Gets away with RaM by making the game about which pieces you move once you rolled, and having the players meaningfully conflict once a move is complete.
- Trivial Pursuit: Not a good game, but a good example of RaM being used for legitimate purposes: Since the game is really only about answering the questions, the board is only a way of keeping score and providing some structure to the game.
- Other games with the same property include Clue
Headline text
- Snakes and Ladders: Other than possibly Monopoly, the platonic ideal of a shitty RaM game. The only defense is that it was intended as religious propaganda rather than being any actual fun.
- Talisman: Partly gets away with RaM by, at minimum, giving you at least one choice per non-endgame turn (do I go left or right?) and giving you occasional interesting choices once you land on a square (Especially 4th edition, which introduced a fate point mechanic that offered a great deal of opportunity for interesting choices).
- Backgammon: Gets away with RaM by making the game about which pieces you move once you rolled, and having the players meaningfully conflict once a move is complete.
- Trivial Pursuit: Not a good game, but a good example of RaM being used for legitimate purposes: Since the game is really only about answering the questions, the board is only a way of keeping score and providing some structure to the game.
- Other games with the same property include Clue
Headline text
- Snakes and Ladders: Other than possibly Monopoly, the platonic ideal of a shitty RaM game. The only defense is that it was intended as religious propaganda rather than being any actual fun.
- Talisman: Partly gets away with RaM by, at minimum, giving you at least one choice per non-endgame turn (do I go left or right?) and giving you occasional interesting choices once you land on a square (Especially 4th edition, which introduced a fate point mechanic that offered a great deal of opportunity for interesting choices).
- Backgammon: Gets away with RaM by making the game about which pieces you move once you rolled, and having the players meaningfully conflict once a move is complete.
- Trivial Pursuit: Not a good game, but a good example of RaM being used for legitimate purposes: Since the game is really only about answering the questions, the board is only a way of keeping score and providing some structure to the game.
- Other games with the same property include Clue
Headline text
- Snakes and Ladders: Other than possibly Monopoly, the platonic ideal of a shitty RaM game. The only defense is that it was intended as religious propaganda rather than being any actual fun.
- Talisman: Partly gets away with RaM by, at minimum, giving you at least one choice per non-endgame turn (do I go left or right?) and giving you occasional interesting choices once you land on a square (Especially 4th edition, which introduced a fate point mechanic that offered a great deal of opportunity for interesting choices).
- Backgammon: Gets away with RaM by making the game about which pieces you move once you rolled, and having the players meaningfully conflict once a move is complete.
- Trivial Pursuit: Not a good game, but a good example of RaM being used for legitimate purposes: Since the game is really only about answering the questions, the board is only a way of keeping score and providing some structure to the game.
- Other games with the same property include Clue
Headline text
- Snakes and Ladders: Other than possibly Monopoly, the platonic ideal of a shitty RaM game. The only defense is that it was intended as religious propaganda rather than being any actual fun.
- Talisman: Partly gets away with RaM by, at minimum, giving you at least one choice per non-endgame turn (do I go left or right?) and giving you occasional interesting choices once you land on a square (Especially 4th edition, which introduced a fate point mechanic that offered a great deal of opportunity for interesting choices).
- Backgammon: Gets away with RaM by making the game about which pieces you move once you rolled, and having the players meaningfully conflict once a move is complete.
- Trivial Pursuit: Not a good game, but a good example of RaM being used for legitimate purposes: Since the game is really only about answering the questions, the board is only a way of keeping score and providing some structure to the game.
- Other games with the same property include Clue
Headline text
- Snakes and Ladders: Other than possibly Monopoly, the platonic ideal of a shitty RaM game. The only defense is that it was intended as religious propaganda rather than being any actual fun.
- Talisman: Partly gets away with RaM by, at minimum, giving you at least one choice per non-endgame turn (do I go left or right?) and giving you occasional interesting choices once you land on a square (Especially 4th edition, which introduced a fate point mechanic that offered a great deal of opportunity for interesting choices).
- Backgammon: Gets away with RaM by making the game about which pieces you move once you rolled, and having the players meaningfully conflict once a move is complete.
- Trivial Pursuit: Not a good game, but a good example of RaM being used for legitimate purposes: Since the game is really only about answering the questions, the board is only a way of keeping score and providing some structure to the game.
- Other games with the same property include Clue
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- Snakes and Ladders: Other than possibly Monopoly, the platonic ideal of a shitty RaM game. The only defense is that it was intended as religious propaganda rather than being any actual fun.
- Talisman: Partly gets away with RaM by, at minimum, giving you at least one choice per non-endgame turn (do I go left or right?) and giving you occasional interesting choices once you land on a square (Especially 4th edition, which introduced a fate point mechanic that offered a great deal of opportunity for interesting choices).
- Backgammon: Gets away with RaM by making the game about which pieces you move once you rolled, and having the players meaningfully conflict once a move is complete.
- Trivial Pursuit: Not a good game, but a good example of RaM being used for legitimate purposes: Since the game is really only about answering the questions, the board is only a way of keeping score and providing some structure to the game.
- Other games with the same property include Clue
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- Snakes and Ladders: Other than possibly Monopoly, the platonic ideal of a shitty RaM game. The only defense is that it was intended as religious propaganda rather than being any actual fun.
Footnote 1: Yes, even rhythm games offer interesting choices: how you play, how you learn, how much and what kind of effort you put into mastering a given song or level, etc.