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| [[File:Borys of Ebe.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Borys of Ebe, the first and only Dragon, being epic.]]
| | '''THE GRAND DAD EMPIRE''' ARE a prolific VINESAUCE-centric MEME group based in BEDROCK CITY. Their largest periods of activity seemed to be around the time SILVAGUNNER was terminated, when they were hosting several unofficial VINESAUCE gaming events (which they assure you repeatedly are ''not'' official Tournaments and are in no way affiliated with JOEL). |
| One of the many ways that [[Dark Sun]] differs from your traditional [[Dungeons & Dragons]] setting is that there are no native [[Dragon]]s. Oh, there are Athasian Drakes, but those are basically giant feral reptiles with innate elemental psychic powers - the Fire Drake, for example, is basically a T-Rex with pyrokinesis. In fact, there is supposedly only one Dragon in Athas - the Dragon of Tyr.
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| But that's not quite accurate. See, Athasian Dragons are epic-leveled multiclassed psionicist-defilers who have turned their combined magical powers towards transforming into a superior state. The Dragon of Tyr is the just first psion/defiler to complete the transition, and his former compatriots, the Sorcerer-Kings, are all at some level along the transformation themselves.
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| Athasian Dragons, needless to say, are nasty, ''nasty'' creatures, with immense physical, arcane and psionic power at their command. In their appearances prior to 4th edition, this was somewhat counterbalanced by the extreme requirements needed to progress through the levels to become a full-fledged dragon, and by the fact that most of those levels allowed the [[Dungeon Master]] to take control of your character whenever they felt like it. On the other hand, achieving even the lowest level of Athasian Dragonhood meant that your character became ageless, as well as gaining increasingly strong combat abilities, the ability to speak any language, along with eventually gaining a devastating breath weapon of superheated sand.
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| The ritual that creates the Athasian Dragon inspired the only Sorcerer-King to almost complete it, the [[Lich]] (or pseudo-[[Dracolich]]) Dregoth, to believe it was humanity's ultimate destiny to transform into dragons as a species. His experiments in bringing this about led to the creation of the [[Dray]] race. | | {{awesome}}== EVENTS == |
| | The VINESAUCE MEME events that The GRAND DAD EMPIRE held were known for being diverse and involved, due in large part to their incredibly strong YTP scene. These events would involve VINESAUCE-branded fan-made HIGH-QUALITY RIPS for SONGS that wouldn't exist for nearly a decade, and some that still don't! They also hosted some of the first KING FOR ANOTHER DAY tournaments, with fan HIGH-QUALITY RIPS. |
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| The Preserver counterpart for this creatrue is the [[Avangion]].
| | In later years, an event known as GRAND FEST was hosting PREMIERES for GRAND DAD Fantasy, KING FOR ANOTHER DAY, GRANDmachine, HE THICC 69, and MEME Wars, as of 2019. |
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| ==AD&D Athasian Dragons== | | == HIGH-QUALITY RIPS and MEMES == |
| The ability for players to become an Athasian Dragon first appeared in the [[Advanced Dungeons & Dragons]] splatbook "Defilers and Preservers: The Wizards of Athas", before being tweaked and appearing again in "Dragon Kings" - a splatbook dedicated to the "epic classes" of Dark Sun as a whole. The benign counterpart to the Athasian Dragon (Or "Dragon King" as it's called in the books) was also introduced in the latter book; the [[Avangion]].
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| Entering the Dragon King "class" requires that you be a [[Human]] or [[Half-Elf]] [[Wizard|Defiler]] of 20th level with the following minimum ability scores: [[Intelligence]] 18, [[Wisdom]] 16, and [[Constitution]] 15.
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| | * GRAND DAD 4: GRAND DAD IS GOD |
| | * GRAND DAD 5: DEATH TO 1D4CHAN |
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| Assuming you qualify, advancing requires a two-part process; gain the amount of XP, as indicated in the table below, and then, when you have enough XP to gain a level, you gotta successfully cast the spell ''Defiler Metamorphosis''. This gets harder and harder to cast as you gain in levels, requiring you to engage in various acts to grandiose consumption and destruction, channeling the lives of plants and animals along with elemental power into your own body to bring about the metamorphosis. Defiler Metamorphosis is a 10th level spell; this means it affects a defiling area equivalent to a 9th level spell, but also affecting living creatures within it (1d6/spell level damage, save vs. spell for half) - this is in addition to any living creatures required as spell components, which are guaranteed to be consumed as part of the casting. This is, obviously, extremely dangerous: if the spell is interrupted or disrupted, it '''kills''' the caster, no saves or take-backs. Even if cast successfully, the caster needs to pass a system shock test or die.
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| Athasian Dragons require Obsidian Orbs to cast their Psionic Enchantments (10th level spells) - no orb, no 10th level magic (although psionics and 9th or lower level spells still work fine). An obsidian orb is 1d20 inches across and costs at least 1,000 gold pieces to make. Once forged, it must be activated by being swallowed by the dragon, passing through their system after absorbing the requisite energies in 1d3 days. A dragon can have as many of these orbs as they like; there's no bonuses for multiples, but it does give them back ups. There's a catch, though; an athasian dragon doesn't need any orbs to first begin the metamorphosis (though preparing one may be done as part of the ritual to ascend to level 21), for all subsequent levels, it has to re-swallow '''all''' of its currently activated orbs as part of the casting of Defiler Metamorphosis. If it doesn't do this? The spell won't work.
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| Because AD&D was full of bullshit rules, Athasian Dragon PCs are taken out of their players' hands from levels 25 to 29, because "the transformation is so painful they fly into a destructive rampage". That's right, you spend more than half this class as a DMPC.
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| Regardless of level, an athasian dragon saves as a 21st level [[wizard]]. Additionally, each time it gains a level in this class, it gains a new psionic science, a new psionic discipline, and a new level's worth of psionic strength points - in addition to whatever psionic powers it had before. So, yeah, you're basically gaining a free level in [[psion]]icist each time you level up in addition to the other goodies.
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| Upon becoming an athasian dragon, a character becomes eternal - they will never die of old age - and they gain the ability to speak any language, as per a permanent Tongues spell.
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| Points rolled on Hit Dice are rolled add directly to the dragon king's hit point total; Constitution modifiers are added per die rolled.
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| ===Metamorphosis Stages===
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| [[File:Athasian dragon metamorphosis 2E.jpg|thumb|right|An illustration of the gradual change]]
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| '''21st-level dragon:''' A dragon character who reaches 21st level makes the first in a series of ten alterations to its physical form. When completed, the humanoid form of the dragon doubles in mass to 350 pounds. The dragon may retain its original height and simply gain bulk, may grow as tall as 8 feet, or may simply grow more dense. Physical changes are uncontrollable and unpredictable. Though it still retains humanoid characteristics, the dragon's face elongates slightly and its nostrils lengthen. The dragon's spine becomes more pronounced, and rudimentary scales appear on the shoulders and back. THAC0 remains 11.
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| '''23rd-level dragon:''' The dragon grows to around 650 pounds and gains another foot in height. All limbs lengthen drastically, including fingers and toes. The dragon's neck also lengthens, lifting its now reptilian head and face far above its shoulders; all hair vanishes by this level. THAC0 becomes 9.
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| '''24th-level dragon:''' The dragon's humanoid origins can hardly be recognized. Its weight increases to nearly 900 pounds and it can be as much as 12 feet long. Tough scales, now everywhere but the underbelly and the underside of its limbs, grant a natural Armor Class of 4. The legs become strikingly inhuman, developing huge thighs and a hard angled, bony calf and taloned foot. At this level the dragon may also hunch severely at shoulder and waist, and can move either upright or on all four limbs at a rate of 15. Its wicked claws give two attacks per round (2d10 damage). THAC0 drops to an 8.
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| '''25th-level dragon:''' Now fully 12 feet long from snout to growing tail, the dragon weighs around 1,600 pounds. Its scales give AC 0 and now have a magical enchantment that allows only weapons of +1 or better magic to hit. The dragon's jaws protrude remarkably, allowing a bite attack that inflicts 4d12 damage. The dragon enters a period of uncontrolled savagery known as its "animalistic period". THAC0 falls to 7.
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| '''26th-level dragon:''' By this time, the 2,000-pound form is completely hunched but can still stand erect at its full 16-foot height at times. Its scales have improved to AC -2. The hind legs have strengthened, allowing a jump of 5' per round. Also, its great claws now inflict 2d10 + 5 points of damage, with a THAC0 of 5.
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| '''27th-level dragon:''' With this new level, the dragon nearly doubles its weight to 4,000 pounds (2 tons) and a length of 20 feet. Its armor improves to AC -4. With the progressing metamorphosis, it can now use its breath weapon, a cone of superheated sand 5' wide at its base, 50' long, and 100' in diameter at the far end, inflicting 10d12 damage, with a THAC0 of 3.
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| '''28th-level dragon:''' The dragon's weight increases to 10,000 pounds (5 tons), and its length reaches to 25 feet, mostly due to its full-grown tail. The tail can attack (5d10 damage). Also, the dragon's claws now inflict 2d10 + 10 damage each. Hide and scales lend it AC -6 and immunity to weapons of less than +2 magical enchantment. Also, the dragon has a natural magic resistance of 20% at this level. THAC0 drops to 1.
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| '''29th-level dragon:''' The dragon is 30 feet long and 20,000 pounds (10 tons). Wings sprout at this level, but only give 18 (C) flying speed. Armor improves to AC -8 and magic resistance to 40% . The breath weapon inflicts 20d12 damage. At the end of this experience level, the dragon's animalistic period draws to a close, and cold cunning and reason once again take control. At 29th level, the dragon's THAC0 becomes -1 .
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| '''30th-level dragon:''' This final stage of the metamorphosis leaves the humanoid form completely behind in favor of a pure dragon, 40 feet long and 50,000 pounds (25 tons). Its wings are fully developed, allowing 45 (A) flying movement. Scales give AC -10 and magic resistance of 80%. Attacks improve to 2d10 + 15 damage each; breath weapon reaches its maximum 25d12 damage. THAC0 is -3 .
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| '''Low (21st - 23rd level)''': The Defiler is merely beginning the metamorphosis. The preparation for casting at these levels requires access to ancient documents, tablets, and scrolls that have never been studied by another defiler. Each of the lower-level steps requires that such materials must be studied for at least eight hours every day for an entire year. The material components must include vast riches (at least 10,000 gp worth of jewels, gems, coins, or artistic treasures), a huge structure where the transformation might take place (which can be reused for all transformations of this group), and no fewer than 1,000 Hit Dice of living creatures for the life-leeching process (this last and similar requirements along the way might be one of the major reasons that most of the Sorcerer-Kings rule over large city-states, so as to have a sufficient stock of "volunteers" no one might miss). The riches vanish and the living creatures are slain one heartbeat after the defiler begins casting. The spell is cast from the deep interior of the structure where the caster will actually transform. No other beings may be present at the instant of casting.
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| '''Middle (24th - 26th level)''': The preparation time extends to two years. During this time, the caster visits a powerful creature on an elemental plane for three days of every 15. The material components include fewer riches (at least 5,000 gp) but more(!) living creatures (no fewer than 2,000 Hit Dice). A new structure must be built, which can be used for all three middle level transformations.
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| '''High (27th, 28th, and 29th level)''': The high levels of Dragon Metamorphosis must take place on either an Elemental or the [[Astral Plane]]. No structure or riches are required, but the caster must travel to the plane of choice with no fewer than 200 Hit Dice of living creatures from the Prime Material plane. The living creatures must be no fewer than 10 Hit Dice each and must willingly travel to the plane and participate (i.e., die) in the casting. Casting time is 24 hours, and at least three powerful beings from that plane must cooperate for that time.
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| In 3rd edition, the Athasian dragon appeared as an epic level prestige class in [[Dragon Magazine]] #339, cutting out most of the stuff that made AD&D's Dragon progression a real pain in the ass. Instead of casting spells with a flat chance of killing you just to level up, you could level up normally. You still had to put up with the bullshit of the DM taking control of your character at certain levels, though.
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| Like in AD&D, characters can gain draconic traits slowly, adding more bulk and power with each level. In addition, at every level other than 1st, 4th, 7th and 10th, you gain spellcasting abilities as if you had gained a level in an arcane or manifester (psionic) class. By the end, an Athasian dragon is Huge size, can burrow and fly, can use all a normal dragon's melee attacks and Frightful Presence, and can breath a cone of sand dealing 10d12 points of damage. And that's on top of the character's spellcasting abilities and epic feats. They can also drain hit points from the creatures around them to protect them from the backlash of epic level spells.
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| What's the catch? Simple: prestige class bullshit. To join the epic prestige class, you have to have 24 points in both Knowledge (Arcana) and Knowledge (Psionics), have the Epic Spellcasting and Great Fortitude feats along with two metamagic and -psionic feats (each), '''and''' be able to cast both 9th-level spells and 6th-level psionic powers. Short of taking a god-awful PrC like cerebremancer, it was extremely difficult to enter as any kind of effective character in most scenarios. Unless you're playing with gestalt rules, in which case this is a piece of cake to enter...provided you sacrifice no less than 1,000 HD of living creatures and 50,000 gp.
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| [[File:Dragon of Tyr 4E.jpg|thumb|right|The Dragon of Tyr, the only known dragon in Athas, as depicted in 4e.]]
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| In 4th edition, of course, the Dragon King was brought back as an [[Epic Destiny]]. This version cut out all the bullshit; you just need to get an Arcane character to 21st level and take it. At 21st level it grants the features '''Draconian Defilement''' (arcane defiling grants +2 to attack roll or +6 damage) and '''Skin of the Dragon''' (you gain low-light vision, +2 to Intimidate, and +5 maximum hitpoints, as well as adding your Constitution modifier to your healing surge value). At level 24, it grants the feature '''Draconic Transformation''' (you gain a fly speed of 8, the ability to speak Draconic, and a +2 to any two of [[Intelligence]], [[Strength]], and/or [[Constitution]]). At level 26, you gain the Daily utility "Draconic Rampage", which lets you transform into a Large sized dragon and wreck shit for the rest of the encounter. At level 30, you gain the final feature of '''Draconic Terror''', which grants a new Encounter Attack in "Scathing Breath" (close blast 5 of fire damage that can blind enemies) as well as the ability to transform into a dragon for 1 turn as an Encounter version of the aforementioned Draconic Rampage.
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THE GRAND DAD EMPIRE ARE a prolific VINESAUCE-centric MEME group based in BEDROCK CITY. Their largest periods of activity seemed to be around the time SILVAGUNNER was terminated, when they were hosting several unofficial VINESAUCE gaming events (which they assure you repeatedly are not official Tournaments and are in no way affiliated with JOEL).
They operated out of the SilvaGunner YouTube channel until it was terminated in 2014, after which they appear to have transitioned briefly to GiivaSunner in September of 2016 before returning to SilvaGunner in June of 2018.
CHANNELS
The original forums appeared to function as four services: preparation and communication in service of coming events, discussion about new HIGH-QUALITY RIPS, MEME showcase, and general VINESAUCE or unrelated discussion.
EVENTS
The VINESAUCE MEME events that The GRAND DAD EMPIRE held were known for being diverse and involved, due in large part to their incredibly strong YTP scene. These events would involve VINESAUCE-branded fan-made HIGH-QUALITY RIPS for SONGS that wouldn't exist for nearly a decade, and some that still don't! They also hosted some of the first KING FOR ANOTHER DAY tournaments, with fan HIGH-QUALITY RIPS.
In later years, an event known as GRAND FEST was hosting PREMIERES for GRAND DAD Fantasy, KING FOR ANOTHER DAY, GRANDmachine, HE THICC 69, and MEME Wars, as of 2019.
HIGH-QUALITY RIPS and MEMES
Some HIGH-QUALITY RIPS appear to have seen releases or updates in 5th and 6th edition. Note that The GRAND DAD EMPIRE seem to have been most active between 2012 and 2019.
- GRAND DAD 2: SPASTIC BOOGALOO
- GRAND DAD 3: THE GAUNTLET OF ASS (FEATURING SMOL NOZOMI, TITO DICKMAN, SPONGE, HE THICC, and SANS UNDERTALE)
- GRAND DAD 4: GRAND DAD IS GOD
- GRAND DAD 5: DEATH TO 1D4CHAN
GRAND DAD IS LOVE
GRAND DAD IS LIFE
GRAND DAD WILL CONQUER THIS WIKI
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FOR VINESAUCE
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