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Some would argue that he is a troll king amongst the rabble, but then if we called him that he would probably revel in the title; even in his earliest days, he described himself pithily as a "foul-mouthed, quick-firing blithering behind a facade of legitimate journalism", and is fully aware of how much [[RAGE]] he can generate and [[Cegorach|takes immense pleasure from it]]. Of course, anyone dumb enough to get so attached to their franchises and games that they take what he says as personal attacks is leaving themselves open and most likely deserves it (cough, implicating cough). On the other hand, you can find quotes of his scattered around 1d4chan, so either we have a /vg/ spy running around defacing our wiki, or we just don't hate him as much as we like to think we do. | Some would argue that he is a troll king amongst the rabble, but then if we called him that he would probably revel in the title; even in his earliest days, he described himself pithily as a "foul-mouthed, quick-firing blithering behind a facade of legitimate journalism", and is fully aware of how much [[RAGE]] he can generate and [[Cegorach|takes immense pleasure from it]]. Of course, anyone dumb enough to get so attached to their franchises and games that they take what he says as personal attacks is leaving themselves open and most likely deserves it (cough, implicating cough). On the other hand, you can find quotes of his scattered around 1d4chan, so either we have a /vg/ spy running around defacing our wiki, or we just don't hate him as much as we like to think we do. | ||
Highly critical as he is of modern gaming in general, Yahtzee discourages players from letting reviews decide everything for them, even his own, and encourages them to come up with their own opinions regarding games. Plus he's a fan of old-school fast-paced shooters like [[Doom]] and has recommended games such as [[Star Control]]: Origins, so his tastes can't be complete shite, eh? | |||
==Yahtzee and Warhammer== | ==Yahtzee and Warhammer== | ||
Warhammer and Warhammer 40k are among the many series he's referenced in his videos, which is at least fitting considering its British cultural origins, though it doesn't seem he has any interest in it himself. At one point in 2011, he wrote an article in his more at-length 'Extra Punctuation' editoral, bashing the setting of 40k based on his impression of the [[Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine|''Space Marine'' game]]; his calling the setting "juvenile" and overly [[grimdark]] has earned him quite a bit of [[butthurt|"well deserved" flak]], with the resulting [[skub|nerd rage]] festering all across the 40k community and seeping even into [[1d4chan|this very wiki]], if the page's history is any indication. | Warhammer and Warhammer 40k are among the many series he's referenced in his videos, which is at least fitting considering its '80s British cultural origins, though it doesn't seem he has any interest in it himself. At one point in 2011, he wrote an article in his more at-length 'Extra Punctuation' editoral, bashing the setting of 40k based on his impression of the [[Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine|''Space Marine'' game]]; his calling the setting "juvenile" and overly [[grimdark]] has earned him quite a bit of [[butthurt|"well deserved" flak]], with the resulting [[skub|nerd rage]] festering all across the 40k community and seeping even into [[1d4chan|this very wiki]], if the page's history is any indication. | ||
Of note is that he didn't actually review the game after playing it, which only fanned the flames further. Even ignoring that it would've been a waste of time anyway, as indicated by many other episodes - particularly where he "debated" between reviewing ''Space Marine'' and another game called ''Hard Reset'' - this was very likely a conscious decision. ("...given options, I'll go for the one that infuriates tosspots.") It may be that he doesn't particularly care about the series - at the least, he had clearly determined it to not be for him anyway, as he would with ''[[Total War: Warhammer II]]''. So yay for consistency! Also worth noting, many [[Legend of Zelda]] fans have leveled that same accusation at him for criticizing what he sees as repetitive "standard heroic myth" plots, in spite of him actually enjoying Wind Waker, Majora's Mask and Breath of the Wild. | Of note is that he didn't actually review the game after playing it, which only fanned the flames further. Even ignoring that it would've been a waste of time anyway, as indicated by many other episodes - particularly where he "debated" between reviewing ''Space Marine'' and another game called ''Hard Reset'' - this was very likely a conscious decision. ("...given options, I'll go for the one that infuriates tosspots.") It may be that he doesn't particularly care about the series - at the least, he had clearly determined it to not be for him anyway, as he would with ''[[Total War: Warhammer II]]''. So yay for consistency! Also worth noting, many [[Legend of Zelda]] fans have leveled that same accusation at him for criticizing what he sees as repetitive "standard heroic myth" plots, in spite of him actually enjoying Wind Waker, Majora's Mask and Breath of the Wild. | ||
In retrospect, this sort of thing is [[lulz|tacitly hilarious]], considering the amount of fans overall that will and do give 40k shit for being [[Grimderp|overwrought]] and [[Edgy|pointlessly dark]], especially in the hands of its less skilled writers; many oft-criticized plot elements and contrivances can also be summarized as reading like [[/co/|so much by-the-book capeshit]], especially given the comics industry's own history with regards to laying on the grimdark too thickly. That's not to say those fans are wrong, but something something pots meet kettles. Plus it's not like /tg/ doesn't actively run with the idea of being nerd rage personified, lulzy as it can be [[Not As Planned|when it becomes genuine]]. | In retrospect, this sort of thing is [[lulz|tacitly hilarious]], considering the amount of fans overall that will and do give 40k shit currently for being [[Grimderp|overwrought]] and [[Edgy|pointlessly dark]], especially in the hands of its less skilled writers; many oft-criticized plot elements and contrivances can also be summarized as reading like [[/co/|so much by-the-book capeshit]], especially given the comics industry's own history with regards to laying on the grimdark too thickly. That's not to say those fans are wrong, but something something pots meet kettles. Plus it's not like /tg/ doesn't actively run with the idea of being nerd rage personified, lulzy as it can be [[Not As Planned|when it becomes genuine]]. | ||
Also, as far as "not understanding the setting", one of his more recent references described the setting of a game he panned as "like Warhammer 40K but without the irony" so... y'know, you tell us. | Also, as far as "not understanding the setting", one of his more recent references described the setting of a game he panned as "like Warhammer 40K but without the irony" so... y'know, you tell us. | ||
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==Opinions on Other /tg/-relevant Games== | ==Opinions on Other /tg/-relevant Games== | ||
*'''[[Wolfenstein]]''' - Yahtzee considered the 2009 entry to be a generic and subpar sandbox-shooter affair, dull enough to the point he did the review in limerick to keep himself awake (though his opinion on it softened up some time after). ''The New Order'', on the other hand, is one he recommends for being a much fresher, solid and suitably fast-paced take on the WWII action shooter, with surprisingly good storytelling by that standard. ''The Old Blood'' got less favorable reviews for being a more "standard" rehash, while ''The New Colossus'' was criticized for trying to recreate the impact public | *'''[[Wolfenstein]]''' - Yahtzee considered the 2009 entry to be a generic and subpar sandbox-shooter affair, dull enough to the point he did the review in limerick to keep himself awake (though his opinion on it softened up some time after). ''The New Order'', on the other hand, is one he recommends for being a much fresher, solid and suitably fast-paced take on the WWII action shooter, with surprisingly good storytelling by that standard. ''The Old Blood'' got less favorable reviews for being a more "standard" rehash, while ''The New Colossus'' was criticized for trying to recreate the impact and public reception of ''The New Order'' without the former's solid story and presentation to balance things. | ||
*'''[[The Witcher]]''' - First impressions of the first game cast it as being a long drawn-out affair that was excessively complex and unintuitive in terms of combat and presentation, with the writing coming off as the standard fantasy fare attempting to seem [[edgy|"mature"]] by the rampant amounts of sex and foul language - not too terrible, mind, but still - and the second game was largely more of the same. However, the third game - in spite of [[Geralt]] coming off as a Mary Sue to him and the mechanics still seeming overly elaborate - earned Yahtzee's recommendation and "Third Best Game of 2015" honors by focusing more on tutorials for the controls, and spreading that attention to detail to the storyline and presentation as well, providing solid and engaging characterization while ''still'' looking and playing crisply. | *'''[[The Witcher]]''' - First impressions of the first game cast it as being a long drawn-out affair that was excessively complex and unintuitive in terms of combat and presentation, with the writing coming off as the standard fantasy fare attempting to seem [[edgy|"mature"]] by the rampant amounts of sex and foul language - not too terrible, mind, but still - and the second game was largely more of the same. However, the third game - in spite of [[Geralt]] coming off as a Mary Sue to him and the mechanics still seeming overly elaborate - earned Yahtzee's recommendation and "Third Best Game of 2015" honors by focusing more on tutorials for the controls, and spreading that attention to detail to the storyline and presentation as well, providing solid and engaging characterization while ''still'' looking and playing crisply. | ||
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== External Links == | == External Links == | ||
* [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation The Zero Punctuation video gallery up to 9/19/2018]. | * [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation The Zero Punctuation video gallery up to 9/19/2018]. | ||
* [https://www.escapistmagazine.com/v2/series/zero-punctuation/ The REST of of the video gallery on the new Escapist site], starting at 8/15/2018 because merging archives was too hard. | * [https://www.escapistmagazine.com/v2/series/zero-punctuation/ The REST of of the video gallery on the new Escapist site], starting at 8/15/2018 because merging archives was too hard, though they might be working on that. | ||
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Zero Punctuation is a series of video game reviews by Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw, accompanied by simple Photoshop stills rebus-animated in Windows Movie Maker playing over the author's "punctuation-less" fast narration. His style is notably critical, cynical and rude, which he often self-referentially acknowledges, and he has a noted preference for narrative and story-heavy games, though not exclusively so. A lot of thinner-skinned people get offended when he tears up their favorite games, but the man usually has a point - to fat, greasy Americans who believe that a fast talking man with a British accent is the pinnacle of wit, at any rate.
In other words, he's like every other overly opinionated vidya gaem playing cunt on the internet, though he's arguably wittier than some - at the least, he's certainly among the more quotable.
Some would argue that he is a troll king amongst the rabble, but then if we called him that he would probably revel in the title; even in his earliest days, he described himself pithily as a "foul-mouthed, quick-firing blithering behind a facade of legitimate journalism", and is fully aware of how much RAGE he can generate and takes immense pleasure from it. Of course, anyone dumb enough to get so attached to their franchises and games that they take what he says as personal attacks is leaving themselves open and most likely deserves it (cough, implicating cough). On the other hand, you can find quotes of his scattered around 1d4chan, so either we have a /vg/ spy running around defacing our wiki, or we just don't hate him as much as we like to think we do.
Highly critical as he is of modern gaming in general, Yahtzee discourages players from letting reviews decide everything for them, even his own, and encourages them to come up with their own opinions regarding games. Plus he's a fan of old-school fast-paced shooters like Doom and has recommended games such as Star Control: Origins, so his tastes can't be complete shite, eh?
Yahtzee and Warhammer
Warhammer and Warhammer 40k are among the many series he's referenced in his videos, which is at least fitting considering its '80s British cultural origins, though it doesn't seem he has any interest in it himself. At one point in 2011, he wrote an article in his more at-length 'Extra Punctuation' editoral, bashing the setting of 40k based on his impression of the Space Marine game; his calling the setting "juvenile" and overly grimdark has earned him quite a bit of "well deserved" flak, with the resulting nerd rage festering all across the 40k community and seeping even into this very wiki, if the page's history is any indication.
Of note is that he didn't actually review the game after playing it, which only fanned the flames further. Even ignoring that it would've been a waste of time anyway, as indicated by many other episodes - particularly where he "debated" between reviewing Space Marine and another game called Hard Reset - this was very likely a conscious decision. ("...given options, I'll go for the one that infuriates tosspots.") It may be that he doesn't particularly care about the series - at the least, he had clearly determined it to not be for him anyway, as he would with Total War: Warhammer II. So yay for consistency! Also worth noting, many Legend of Zelda fans have leveled that same accusation at him for criticizing what he sees as repetitive "standard heroic myth" plots, in spite of him actually enjoying Wind Waker, Majora's Mask and Breath of the Wild.
In retrospect, this sort of thing is tacitly hilarious, considering the amount of fans overall that will and do give 40k shit currently for being overwrought and pointlessly dark, especially in the hands of its less skilled writers; many oft-criticized plot elements and contrivances can also be summarized as reading like so much by-the-book capeshit, especially given the comics industry's own history with regards to laying on the grimdark too thickly. That's not to say those fans are wrong, but something something pots meet kettles. Plus it's not like /tg/ doesn't actively run with the idea of being nerd rage personified, lulzy as it can be when it becomes genuine.
Also, as far as "not understanding the setting", one of his more recent references described the setting of a game he panned as "like Warhammer 40K but without the irony" so... y'know, you tell us.
Creative Works
Yahtzee has tried his hand at developing a few games of his own, mostly point-and-click horror/adventure hybrids. He has also written a few books; the one of most interest to /tg/ is Mogworld, a hilarious send up of World of Warcraft which follows the misadventures of an undead minion who just wants to die and stay dead. While his creative works are likely worth looking into, one wouldn't go wrong just sticking with Mogworld if that's your inclination.
Such creative works include:
- Jam - "It's about an apocalypse! With jam in it!" Hard to get more straightforward than that. This tale about a tide of man-eating jam is written as a parody of the post-apocalypse genre.
- Will Save The Galaxy For Food -
- Differently Morphous - Contemporary paranormal spiel about the difficulties of adjusting to normal life, except you trade in the typical candidates like "vampire" or "werewolf" for "incomprehensible Lovecraftian horror from beyond our human dimensions".
- The Consuming Shadow - More Arkham Horror-style Lovecraftian horror but in roguelike form, exploiting the usual "no two playthroughs are the same" roguelike mechanic to create intrigue and mystery.
He also used to make some one-hour videos called "Let's Drown Out", in which Yahtzee and his cynical but kinda bro-tier friend Gabe are talking mindlessly about stuff going on in the gaming world, while trying as much as possible to ignore the boring-ass game they're playing (see: drown out). The only relevance this has for /tg/ is that they are extremely good to listen to while painting, simply for how mindbogglingly mindless it is.
Opinions on Other /tg/-relevant Games
- Wolfenstein - Yahtzee considered the 2009 entry to be a generic and subpar sandbox-shooter affair, dull enough to the point he did the review in limerick to keep himself awake (though his opinion on it softened up some time after). The New Order, on the other hand, is one he recommends for being a much fresher, solid and suitably fast-paced take on the WWII action shooter, with surprisingly good storytelling by that standard. The Old Blood got less favorable reviews for being a more "standard" rehash, while The New Colossus was criticized for trying to recreate the impact and public reception of The New Order without the former's solid story and presentation to balance things.
- The Witcher - First impressions of the first game cast it as being a long drawn-out affair that was excessively complex and unintuitive in terms of combat and presentation, with the writing coming off as the standard fantasy fare attempting to seem "mature" by the rampant amounts of sex and foul language - not too terrible, mind, but still - and the second game was largely more of the same. However, the third game - in spite of Geralt coming off as a Mary Sue to him and the mechanics still seeming overly elaborate - earned Yahtzee's recommendation and "Third Best Game of 2015" honors by focusing more on tutorials for the controls, and spreading that attention to detail to the storyline and presentation as well, providing solid and engaging characterization while still looking and playing crisply.
- As an interesting side note, The Witcher episode was what spawned the "Glorious PC Master Race" and "Dirty Console Peasants" monikers, both initially done as jokes. The fact that the joke has lived this long probably says something. Just don't ask us what. Yahtz himself has taken a bit of a distaste to this term as of late as well, as PC gaming has begun outpacing consoles to the point that people were unironically using this term and becoming graphics-obsessed twats.
- Doom - Big fan of the original entries, particularly the first one, but though Doom 3 deviated too far from the standard in his younger days, due to the murky and linear, horror-lite presentation and focus on audio logs clashing with the more open-ended run-and-gun style of the originals. That said, despite being the 'weakest' entry he still prefers DOOM 3 to the average modern FPS by a country mile, considering it an "actual" shooter that was far more straightforward and engaging.
DeumDOOM's 2016 entry was praised as the best game of 2016 for being a highly stellar entry that faithfully updates the core gameplay of the original Doom to modern times, while leaving the bulk of the plot to be discovered at the player's own pace. Yahtzee, being Yahtzee, almost though it was too good to be true - and given the developer's reputation... - and still had his criticisms, e.g. the game becoming too easy for him towards the end, but readily concedes they're nitpicks beforehand because the game is still fucking good. Doom's VR entry was similarly recommended for accurately capturing the feel of the games as well.
- Call of Cthulhu: The Official Video Game: Done by Cyanide Studio, the Space Hulk: Deathwing guys who are referred to as "basically competent midrange developers", the game is considered forgettable and lacking in proper story structure; he compared it to Call of Cthulhu: Dark Corners of the Earth, which to him was at least better-paced and remembered that even the most rote of Lovecraftian stories run off properly maintaining a fear of the unknown.
- Middle Earth: Shadow of Mordor: Set between The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings, and created by Monolith (the first two Condemned and F.E.A.R. games and Guardians of Middle-Earth, among others), Shadow of Mordor is the opposite of everything you'd expect a video game adaptation of a movie (of a book) to be. Textdump exposition and Tailon's bland and angsty presentation aside, Yahtzee recommends the game for both solid gameplay, which gets most of the usual 'current-era action-adventure sandbox' features right, and the orcs of all things! The novel Nemesis system provides a means to study your greenskin foes' weaknesses, an orcish hierarchy of captains impacted by the player's successes AND failures (yep, that one orc what fucked you up might just become a new captain himself!), as well as the possibility of inserting potential sleeper agents into the hierarchy and influencing their advancement. All of this serves to create an organic storytelling experience in an adaptation of a massive body of literature, complete with movie franchise, that by many accounts manages to be really fucking good.
External Links
- The Zero Punctuation video gallery up to 9/19/2018.
- The REST of of the video gallery on the new Escapist site, starting at 8/15/2018 because merging archives was too hard, though they might be working on that.