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{{sick|Dare you enter my Magical Realm?}}
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[[File:Magical realm.png|200px|thumb|left|Well, dare you?]]
[[File:Magical realm.png|200px|thumb|left|Well, dare you?]]
[[File:The Whizzard.png|200px|thumb|right|The original comic.]]
[[File:The Whizzard.png|200px|thumb|right|The original comic.]]
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==Drawing the Line==
==Drawing the Line==


It is inevitable that DM's, being at heart storytellers, will let their desires and interests bleed into a narrative without trying to get off. A horse loving DM may not constantly pimp-out centaurs with big dicks or beautiful female bodies, but he will very likely pay great attention to mount mechanics and try to sneak in a centaur character or two wherever they can plausibly fit the game, or in the very least make many horse references. These are ''not'' the DM's that have a magical realm.
It is inevitable that GMs, being at heart storytellers, will let their desires and interests bleed into a narrative without trying to get off. A horse loving DM may not constantly pimp-out centaurs with big dicks or beautiful female bodies, but he will very likely pay great attention to mount mechanics and try to sneak in a centaur character or two wherever they can plausibly fit the game, or in the very least make many horse references. These are ''not'' the DM's that have a magical realm. Despite what [[/pol/]] may (read: will) tell you, caring about something is not a crime.


A [[/d/M]] is someone who ''only'' dotes on the concepts that get him (let's be honest, they are almost always male) off, and try to draw other players to appreciate his fetishes via quests and requests. (see the piss comic above)
A [[/d/M]] is someone who ''only'' dotes on the concepts that get him (let's be honest, they are almost always male; women who would otherwise /d/M tend to [[Twilight|write terrible fiction]] instead) off, and try to draw other players to appreciate his fetishes via quests and requests. (see the piss comic above)


On the other side of the "published author" line, one of the problems with defining "magical realm" is that, sometimes, legitimate aspects of the setting can sound really, really fucked up when discussed casually.  
A lot of threads about magical realms on /tg/ are anons trying to find the precise line when something goes from "fantastical" to "perverse". As with debates regarding furries, [[beastfolk]] [[Furry#Monstergirls_vs._Furries|and monstergirls]], the primary keys are context, context, context, and the sanity with which the concept is approached.


Due to many cases of both, a lot of threads about magical realms on /tg/ are anons trying to find the precise line when something goes from "fantastical" to "perverse". As with debates regarding furries, [[beastfolk]] [[Furry#Monstergirls_vs._Furries|and monstergirls]], the primary keys are context, context, context, and the sanity with which the concept is approached. Intent also goes a long way, naturally: the DM might describe a sewer's horrible smell in-depth not because he's a fart fetishist, but because he wants to improve the group's immersion and not have the characters jump in the sludge without a care.
For a specific example, take [[Empire of the Petal Throne]]. One of the potential PC races are the ''Mihalli'': shapeshifting alien [[wizard]]s whose "default" form is [[furry|a humanoid lion with 4-6 breasts]] and who are reputed to be [[dickgirl|hermaphroditic]]. And, to be honest, "multi-tittied herm lioness wizard" sounds like [[Chakat|something straight out of a deviantArt page...]] but here's the thing: all the non-human PC races are similarly strange in one way or another. One species faces four directions at once and has eight biological sexes; another has members who resemble glass sculptures and act as a eusocial hivemind. The writers don't spend twice as many paragraphs describing their mysterious girl-dicks as the other races, they don't get the [[Mary Sue]] treatment (they have, in fact, been nuked by the local humans in their recent past and haven't recovered) and are otherwise treated as just another weird detail in the very weird place that is Tekumel.


For a specific example, take [[Empire of the Petal Throne]], in which one of the potential PC races are the ''Mihalli'': shapeshifting alien [[wizard]]s whose "default" form is [[furry|a humanoid lion with 4-6 breasts]] and who are reputed to be [[dickgirl|hermaphroditic]]. And, to be honest, "multi-tittied herm lioness wizard" sounds like [[Chakat|something straight out of a stereotypical furry's magical realm...]] but here they are treated as just an ordinary, mundane aspect of life on Tekumel.
Another thing to consider is the intent and nature of the work. Something that is openly and explicitly about sex (e.g. [[Cybering]]) is ''not'' considered magical realm by default because the sex is what you're there for, so complaining about it is like ordering a sandwich then complaining that it has bread on it. You're a willing participant, not having something forced onto you. The exception that proves the rule, of course, is when the erotic content is very much not what you signed up for. There's also something to be said for the interests of the group as a whole: one gaming group may laugh as the [[Bard]] has hot steamy sex with a [[Beholder]], the next may get uncomfortable just from some light flirting with an [[NPC]]. This is why it's a good idea to have a session zero to set expectations before there's any chance for hurt feelings to develop.


A quick comparison to the other races of the setting makes it clear that the hermaphrodite thing is just a case of contextually appropriate weirdness (assuming it's even true, given the Mihalli's reproductive practices aren't exactly documented): all the non-human PC races are similarly strange in one way or another. One species faces four directions at once and has eight biological sexes (and funnily enough, their reproduction methods aren't well know to outsiders, either); another has members who resemble glass sculptures and act as a eusocial hivemind. The Mihalli are almost certainly intended to be aliens that actually '''feel''' alien, and are neither [[Star Trek|aliens whose only difference from a stock human is that they have funny ridges on their foreheads]], nor aliens whose shtick is [[Chakat|summarized by the phrase "they're like that because It Gets Me Off™"]] -- in particular, they lack the usual [[Mary Sue]] bullshit that is a distinguishing feature of the latter. For example, the main reason they're a minor race? They lost a large scale war against the humans when their capital city got nuked, resulting in them having to flee into the shadows.
Now you know. [https://youtube.com/watch?v=dzyh_nEuh3M And knowing is half the battle!]
 
Another thing to consider is the intent and nature of the work. Something that is openly and explicitly about sex (e.g., pornography, [[/a/|ecchi anime]], erotic roleplaying, etc.) is generally not considered magical realm material because the sex is what you're there for, so complaining about it is like ordering a sandwich then complaining that it has bread on it. You're a willing participant, not having something forced onto you, and the creator is completely open about what they are doing, not doing it and then pathetically denying it. Or to put it another way: Your DM loaning you a porno mag you asked to borrow is normal behavior. Him gleefully describing a rape scene at the tabletop without prompting and in vivid detail before insisting it's "just part of the setting, bro!" when his players fail to get into it is absolutely '''not'''.
 
A final potential wrinkle in the whole concept is the matter of personal preference. Everyone has their own tastes and comfort zone; one gaming group may laugh as the [[Bard]] has hot sex with a [[Beholder]] right in front of them, the next may get uncomfortable just from some light flirting with an [[NPC]]. Its good practice to use Session Zero to get a vibe of what your group will tolerate content-wise. Now you know. [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dzyh_nEuh3M And knowing is half the battle!]


==See Also==
==See Also==
* [[/d/]]
* [[/d/]]
* [[/d/M]]
* [[Gor (John Norman)]]. Rape, arson, murder, and rape. Norman likes rape.
* [[Gor (John Norman)]]. Rape, arson, murder, and rape. Norman likes rape.
* [[Forgotten Realms]], the original Magical Realm of [[Ed Greenwood]]. It seems tame today, but back in the days it had good-aligned life/agriculture deities blessing married couples having sex in the fields, rampant bisexuality, public orgies, rampant incest (okay, those last two turn people away even today) and lots of NSFW festivals.
* [[Forgotten Realms]], the original Magical Realm of [[Ed Greenwood]]. It only seems tame because of TSR/Wizards putting the kibosh on it in printed material, but read some of the oldest material (or Ed's blog) and you'll find good-aligned life/agriculture deities blessing married couples having sex in the fields, rampant bisexuality, public orgies, rampant incest and lots of NSFW festivals.
* [[Monster Girl Encyclopedia]], for an example of a setting that qualifies and isn't ''mindbogglingly'' awful, but still plenty [[skub]]by beyond that to put it very generously. Fans usually make tamer spin-offs or go for really dark crossover such as Fallout or Bloodborne.
* [[Monster Girl Encyclopedia]]: an interesting example, as it has an awful lot of worldbuilding for a commercial hentai product intended to appeal to as many fetishes as possible. Some people on the internet (see also: faggots) misunderstand the point of this and wrote a lot of grimderp fan fiction for it, which escalated into death threats and the creator issuing a C&D to the primary English "fan"site.
* [[FATAL]] is about five or six stillborn magical realms stitched together with quadratic equations and terrible polynomial-based combat. Yes, it's mindbogglingly awful.
* [[FATAL]] is about five or six stillborn magical realms stitched together with quadratic equations and terrible polynomial-based combat. Yes, it's mindbogglingly awful.
* [[Book of Erotic Fantasy]], for an example of a work that doesn't probably quite qualify as a "magical realm", for reasons of being too openly and explicitly about sex.
* [[Wraeththu]]: From [[Slaanesh|Enchantment]] to [[Rape|Fulfilment]], for an example of a work that qualifies as a Magical Realm twice over, being one reader's Magical Realm RPG version of an already existing Magical Realm series of novels, and an excellent example of what happens when you go two Magical Realms deep, i.e. sheer horror. Hell, it even has one of the eponymous horrors' dicks in the cover.
* [[Maid RPG]], for an example of a self-aware Magical Realm.
* [[Wraeththu RPG]], for an example of a work that qualifies as a Magical Realm twice over, being one reader's Magical Realm RPG version of an already existing Magical Realm series of novels, and an excellent example of what happens when you go two Magical Realms deep, i.e. sheer horror.
* [[Magical Realm CYOA]], a popular CYOA that can be overlapped with the /tg/ meaning of "Magical Realm", but also can just be taken in a non-sexualised direction.
* [[Magical Realm CYOA]], a popular CYOA that can be overlapped with the /tg/ meaning of "Magical Realm", but also can just be taken in a non-sexualised direction.
* [[FAPP]], a furry tabletop game about what happens when the magical realm enters ''you''.
* [[FAPP]], a furry tabletop game about what happens when the magical realm enters ''you''. The few who have stared into the abyss claim the mechanics are a surprisingly competent form of rules-lite, but are you really going to bring this thing to the table?
* [[CthulhuTech]], for its copious uses of rape and romance railroading in its adventures (read: getting raped by furries), along with the uber hedonistic society of the NEG. Still, NEG enacts these things out of necessity, whatever takes off your mind of risks of being mindraped and soul-annihilated by eldritch horrors of Lovecraft.
* [[CthulhuTech]], the game that railroads your Evangelion pilots and Kamen Riders into getting raped by beastmen.
* Anything by Chris A. Field, particularly [[Black Tokyo]].
* [[Lamentations of the Flame Princess]].  The original author has a very creepy obsession with putting cannibalism and other disturbing sex content into all his books.


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Latest revision as of 00:43, 12 June 2025


Well, dare you?
The original comic.

An individual's Magical Realm is the domain of their sexual fetishes, especially in relation to roleplaying games. When a game starts developing or introducing elements of the player or GM's fetishes, either accidentally or deliberately, it is said to be entering their magical realm.

The origin of the phrase is the skit "Piss World" from KC Green's webcomic Gunshow, where the players of a tabletop RPG react violently to their GM repeatedly trying to get them to play to his urine fetish. A panel has an NPC (presumably a DMPC) called the "Whizzard" asks "Dare you enter my magical realm?" The skit ends with the players punching him out. Amusingly, the "Whizzard" looks a bit like Ed Greenwood, who is notorious for doing this in his writings and has a Magical Realm self-insert in Elminster.

When the phrase "Magical Realm" is used to describe a work (usually a setting or adventure module), the implication is that the author either let their fetishes bleed into the work sufficiently to make it very obvious what gets them off, or even created the work entirely for the sole purpose of sexual gratification without explicitly saying so. Bonus points if they insist otherwise despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

Similarly, it is possible for a player or DM to try and force their magical realm onto a setting by acting upon their fetishes, or having particular reactions to something as mundane as, say, lizardfolk. A more basic version is simply hitting on every tavern wench from Mendev to Absalom in an attempt to get laid in a way that the player cannot in real life. This is considered bad form because it puts the gratification of their fetish before the fun of the rest of the group. A DM who habitually forces his Magical Realm upon the players is called a /d/M.

Drawing the Line[edit | edit source]

It is inevitable that GMs, being at heart storytellers, will let their desires and interests bleed into a narrative without trying to get off. A horse loving DM may not constantly pimp-out centaurs with big dicks or beautiful female bodies, but he will very likely pay great attention to mount mechanics and try to sneak in a centaur character or two wherever they can plausibly fit the game, or in the very least make many horse references. These are not the DM's that have a magical realm. Despite what /pol/ may (read: will) tell you, caring about something is not a crime.

A /d/M is someone who only dotes on the concepts that get him (let's be honest, they are almost always male; women who would otherwise /d/M tend to write terrible fiction instead) off, and try to draw other players to appreciate his fetishes via quests and requests. (see the piss comic above)

A lot of threads about magical realms on /tg/ are anons trying to find the precise line when something goes from "fantastical" to "perverse". As with debates regarding furries, beastfolk and monstergirls, the primary keys are context, context, context, and the sanity with which the concept is approached.

For a specific example, take Empire of the Petal Throne. One of the potential PC races are the Mihalli: shapeshifting alien wizards whose "default" form is a humanoid lion with 4-6 breasts and who are reputed to be hermaphroditic. And, to be honest, "multi-tittied herm lioness wizard" sounds like something straight out of a deviantArt page... but here's the thing: all the non-human PC races are similarly strange in one way or another. One species faces four directions at once and has eight biological sexes; another has members who resemble glass sculptures and act as a eusocial hivemind. The writers don't spend twice as many paragraphs describing their mysterious girl-dicks as the other races, they don't get the Mary Sue treatment (they have, in fact, been nuked by the local humans in their recent past and haven't recovered) and are otherwise treated as just another weird detail in the very weird place that is Tekumel.

Another thing to consider is the intent and nature of the work. Something that is openly and explicitly about sex (e.g. Cybering) is not considered magical realm by default because the sex is what you're there for, so complaining about it is like ordering a sandwich then complaining that it has bread on it. You're a willing participant, not having something forced onto you. The exception that proves the rule, of course, is when the erotic content is very much not what you signed up for. There's also something to be said for the interests of the group as a whole: one gaming group may laugh as the Bard has hot steamy sex with a Beholder, the next may get uncomfortable just from some light flirting with an NPC. This is why it's a good idea to have a session zero to set expectations before there's any chance for hurt feelings to develop.

Now you know. And knowing is half the battle!

See Also[edit | edit source]

  • /d/
  • /d/M
  • Gor (John Norman). Rape, arson, murder, and rape. Norman likes rape.
  • Forgotten Realms, the original Magical Realm of Ed Greenwood. It only seems tame because of TSR/Wizards putting the kibosh on it in printed material, but read some of the oldest material (or Ed's blog) and you'll find good-aligned life/agriculture deities blessing married couples having sex in the fields, rampant bisexuality, public orgies, rampant incest and lots of NSFW festivals.
  • Monster Girl Encyclopedia: an interesting example, as it has an awful lot of worldbuilding for a commercial hentai product intended to appeal to as many fetishes as possible. Some people on the internet (see also: faggots) misunderstand the point of this and wrote a lot of grimderp fan fiction for it, which escalated into death threats and the creator issuing a C&D to the primary English "fan"site.
  • FATAL is about five or six stillborn magical realms stitched together with quadratic equations and terrible polynomial-based combat. Yes, it's mindbogglingly awful.
  • Wraeththu: From Enchantment to Fulfilment, for an example of a work that qualifies as a Magical Realm twice over, being one reader's Magical Realm RPG version of an already existing Magical Realm series of novels, and an excellent example of what happens when you go two Magical Realms deep, i.e. sheer horror. Hell, it even has one of the eponymous horrors' dicks in the cover.
  • Magical Realm CYOA, a popular CYOA that can be overlapped with the /tg/ meaning of "Magical Realm", but also can just be taken in a non-sexualised direction.
  • FAPP, a furry tabletop game about what happens when the magical realm enters you. The few who have stared into the abyss claim the mechanics are a surprisingly competent form of rules-lite, but are you really going to bring this thing to the table?
  • CthulhuTech, the game that railroads your Evangelion pilots and Kamen Riders into getting raped by beastmen.

Gallery[edit | edit source]